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KSSS Shrooms Abnormally Short?
#27677010 - 02/28/22 02:22 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I want to preface this by saying this is my first ever grow (and first flush) so I'm totally new to all of this. These mushies are Koh Samui Super Strain and, from looking at pictures online, it seems they usually grow a lot larger and in a much different shape. However, the veils are becoming exposed and the caps are curling upwards like they are mature. Are they ready to pick or should I let them keep growing?
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Re: KSSS Shrooms Abnormally Short? [Re: natnatnat]
#27677024 - 02/28/22 02:36 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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the time a grew this variety they were fat and short but not as short as the ones you are showing , some times its genetic but usually enviromental factors excess moisture or a contaminant will make them behave weird , if the veil is broken or exposed and the cap is curling , its time to harvest , the quality of the fruit will degrade more if you let them keep going , best of luck to you
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Re: KSSS Shrooms Abnormally Short? [Re: natnatnat]
#27677036 - 02/28/22 02:47 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Looks like you got the original ksss pheno. A lot of ksss sold today is some other random brown cube and not the squats.
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for your first grow that tub looks great!! consider yourself lucky, it seems like you got the UFO KSSS genetics people search for. if you have access to agar, take some clones!! iโm not super certain when optimal harvest is for that phenotype, but the larger fruits are probably ready to harvest. donโt let โem sit too long but itโs not super urgent either
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Re: KSSS Shrooms Abnormally Short? [Re: hazyhorse]
#27677070 - 02/28/22 03:19 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Thank you! Apparently, I'm luckier than I thought haha. I don't currently have any agar, but that may be the direction I go next, so I can get more of these little guys. I've been hesitant to harvest them because the big ones practically doubled over the last 24 hours, but I think you and eL ShaMukO are right about harvesting them now. I think I'll harvest all the biggest ones but leave a single one a day longer to see if it keeps growing or not. Thank you all and mush love
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Re: KSSS Shrooms Abnormally Short? [Re: natnatnat]
#27677094 - 02/28/22 03:51 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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a lot of people only get mold or a few sparse fruits on their first tub, so you def did something right!! pastywhyteโs agar tek is a good place to start with agar, but really any tek will do. itโs definitely the best next step, running a good clone is so rewarding. though, this flush is looking excellent even for MS. you should be good to leave them a bit longer too, but yeah itโs not gonna hurt to harvest them now. just get em before they start getting soft. good job on the grow!!
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Re: KSSS Shrooms Abnormally Short? [Re: natnatnat]
#27677137 - 02/28/22 04:38 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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that's a sought after pheno, nice.
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Re: KSSS Shrooms Abnormally Short? [Re: natnatnat]
#27677151 - 02/28/22 04:48 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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That looks like the right one to me. I'd personally make that a project. Most KSSS these days is regular Koh Sumai labeled as KSSS unfortunately. So... personally that would be something to keep and work with if it was mine. Solid! ๐ค
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Re: KSSS Shrooms Abnormally Short? [Re: MTZ]
#27677175 - 02/28/22 05:13 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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MTZ said: That looks like the right one to me. I'd personally make that a project. Most KSSS these days is regular Koh Sumai labeled as KSSS unfortunately. So... personally that would be something to keep and work with if it was mine. Solid! ๐ค
"Another great psilocybe mushroom brought to us by Enthomycologist John Allen from his travels through Thailand. This beauty was picked in the town of Hua Thanon on the island of Koh Samui."
Koh Samui is known for shorter than average fruits with meaty stems that are noticeably wider on the bottom than at the top. For its height, Koh Samui can have unusually large caps but Koh Samui from time to time, puts out some surprisingly normal looking fruits. Pins commonly have red tops with white spots. The caps turn red-brown with maturity.
Koh Samui Super Strain came from a prolific Koh Samui isolate. There is much debate over weather KSSS is actually a, "Super Strain". Some people swear by it, some long for the original. Some think it is less varied in appearance than the original. Your results may vary. KSSS is likely just a more domesticated version of Koh Samui, so if you plan to use multispore, try the Super Strain, and if you work with agar, stick with the original.
Many people are found of Koh Samui. It is usually easy to spot from picture alone. It is a great addition to any collection.
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Re: KSSS Shrooms Abnormally Short? [Re: Crackatoa]
#27677542 - 02/28/22 10:09 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I got a syringe of these back when I was just a wee lad maybe 2007? I thought they were just going to be regular cubes and then these things popped up, I was pissed! Gave 'em to a friend who gobbled then up and had a great time. Said they were super potent. Maybe dose half of what you were planning for a normal cube just to be safe. Great first grow btw!
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Re: KSSS Shrooms Abnormally Short? [Re: hazyhorse]
#28396725 - 07/15/23 05:07 PM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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I want to know when do I harvest KSSS strains how can I send u a pic to see what I got?
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Re: KSSS Shrooms Abnormally Short? [Re: natnatnat]
#28396734 - 07/15/23 05:12 PM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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How do u upload pic on here
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Re: KSSS Shrooms Abnormally Short? [Re: piper12]
#28396829 - 07/15/23 07:32 PM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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piper12 said: How do u upload pic on here
Top left "Pics" link, click the link and then click "upload".
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Re: KSSS Shrooms Abnormally Short? [Re: piper12]
#28396839 - 07/15/23 07:50 PM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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here is a link on how to post pics. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27155585 Also this is a pretty old thread.
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Re: KSSS Shrooms Abnormally Short? [Re: natnatnat]
#28396847 - 07/15/23 08:05 PM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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Awesome job on your first grow, man!
I've got a KSSS LCS on the way and this has me excited!
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I was growing these recently, and mine looked just like yours. They can be a PITA to harvest.
I'm not sure what is the optimal time to harvest, but I noticed these open up very early on, and they will keep getting bigger for days. I've heard that psilocybin stops being produced when the veil breaks, but I'm not sure if that's accurate, at least with these.
The spore load is quite low, so if you want to leave them for a while it won't make too much of a mess.
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Re: KSSS Shrooms Abnormally Short? [Re: Kinoko314]
#28398125 - 07/16/23 08:02 PM (6 months, 9 days ago) |
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Thatโs for sure KSSS ufo. ksss is a normal cube this is an isolated phenotype.
The first flush usually sucks and is barely big enough to harvest, but Iโve gotten palm sized ones from later flushes.
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