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Re: Etymology [Re: syncro]
    #28369608 - 06/22/23 02:41 AM (7 months, 3 days ago)

Helpful in understanding some of our concepts. We haven't gotten far.


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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos] * 2
    #28396413 - 07/15/23 12:14 PM (6 months, 10 days ago)

:levitate:
Bodhicitta, derived from Sanskrit "Bodhi" meaning 'enlightenment/awakening' and "Chit" meaning 'consciousness' combining to pretty much mean: "Mind of awakening."

Bodhicitta: The seed of Buddha-Mind.

(Bodhi itself originates from Sanskirt root "Budh" meaning 'to understand fully/ to awaken' with a literal meaning close to 'awakening').


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Re: Etymology [Re: Lithop] * 1
    #28396473 - 07/15/23 01:01 PM (6 months, 10 days ago)

Interesting! IIRC buddhi also means intellect :nerd:

Edit-Buddhi (Sanskrit: बुद्धि) is derived from the Vedic Sanskrit root Budh (बुध् ), which literally means "to wake, be awake, observe, heed, attend, learn, become aware of, to know, be conscious again".[1] The term appears extensively in Rigveda and other Vedic literature.[1] Buddhi means, states Monier Williams, the power to "form, retain concepts; intelligence, reason, intellect, mind", the intellectual faculty and the ability to "discern, judge, comprehend, understand" something.[1][3]


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54. The true nature of things is to be known personally , through the eyes of clear illumination and not through a sage : what the moon exactly is , is to be known with one's own eyes ; can another make him know it?


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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos] * 2
    #28396488 - 07/15/23 01:13 PM (6 months, 10 days ago)

I (pron.)
12c., a shortening of Old English ic, the first person singular nominative pronoun, from Proto-Germanic *ek (source also of Old Frisian ik, Old Norse ek, Norwegian eg, Danish jeg, Old High German ih, German ich, Gothic ik), from PIE *eg- "I," nominative form of the first person singular pronoun (source also of Sanskrit aham, Hittite uk, Latin ego (source of French Je), Greek ego, Russian ja, Lithuanian aš).


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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos] * 2
    #28397127 - 07/16/23 03:16 AM (6 months, 10 days ago)

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Interesting! IIRC buddhi also means intellect :nerd:




Makes sense!


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I (pron.)
12c., a shortening of Old English ic, the first person singular nominative pronoun, from Proto-Germanic *ek (source also of Old Frisian ik, Old Norse ek, Norwegian eg, Danish jeg, Old High German ih, German ich, Gothic ik), from PIE *eg- "I," nominative form of the first person singular pronoun (source also of Sanskrit aham, Hittite uk, Latin ego (source of French Je), Greek ego, Russian ja, Lithuanian aš).




Oh shit, you went right into this one- never considered checking the etymology for 'I'.
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Re: Etymology [Re: Lithop]
    #28397131 - 07/16/23 03:22 AM (6 months, 10 days ago)

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Lithop said:
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connectedcosmos said:
Interesting! IIRC buddhi also means intellect :nerd:




Makes sense!


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I (pron.)
12c., a shortening of Old English ic, the first person singular nominative pronoun, from Proto-Germanic *ek (source also of Old Frisian ik, Old Norse ek, Norwegian eg, Danish jeg, Old High German ih, German ich, Gothic ik), from PIE *eg- "I," nominative form of the first person singular pronoun (source also of Sanskrit aham, Hittite uk, Latin ego (source of French Je), Greek ego, Russian ja, Lithuanian aš).




Oh shit, you went right into this one- never considered checking the etymology for 'I'.
:mindblown:




Agreed, incredible stuff. Well done!
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Re: Etymology [Re: solarshroomster] * 3
    #28397212 - 07/16/23 06:07 AM (6 months, 10 days ago)

Anybody ever tried a cybs salt tek?
:lol:

context (n.)
early 15c., "a composition, a chronicle, the entire text of a writing," from Latin contextus "a joining together," originally past participle of contexere "to weave together," from assimilated form of com "with, together" (see con-) + texere "to weave, to make" (from PIE root *teks- "to weave," also "to fabricate").

A classic that I cannot believe I've forgot to include!

psychedelic (adj.)
occasionally psychodelic, "producing expanded consciousness through heightened awareness and feeling," 1956, of drugs, suggested by British-born Canadian psychiatrist Humphry Osmond in a letter to Aldous Huxley and used by Osmond in a scientific paper published the next year; from Greek psykhē "mind" (see psyche) + dēloun "make visible, reveal" (from dēlos "visible, clear," from PIE root *dyeu- "to shine").


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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos] * 5
    #28397232 - 07/16/23 06:31 AM (6 months, 10 days ago)

Holy cow. :smile: It reminds me when we were trying to figure what was meant by tantra, and a concept found was a weaving together.

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The term "tantra" has its origins in ancient Indian traditions and has been a subject of various interpretations and meanings over the centuries. The etymology of the word "tantra" is derived from Sanskrit, an ancient Indo-Aryan language.

The term "tantra" is believed to come from the root word "tan," which means "to expand," "to extend," or "to weave." This root word reflects the idea of weaving together different aspects of existence to create a holistic understanding or experience. It implies the weaving together of various techniques, practices, and concepts to achieve spiritual growth, liberation, or enlightenment.

Additionally, "tantra" can also be understood as a combination of two words: "tanoti" and "trayati." "Tanoti" means "to expand," "to stretch," or "to liberate," while "trayati" means "to protect" or "to free from bondage." This interpretation further emphasizes the idea of liberation or freedom from limitations through the expansion of consciousness.

Overall, the etymology of the term "tantra" suggests a concept of expanding and weaving together various aspects of life, practices, and knowledge to attain spiritual growth, liberation, and transcendence.




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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #28397246 - 07/16/23 06:48 AM (6 months, 10 days ago)

slave - slav


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Re: Etymology [Re: syncro] * 2
    #28397252 - 07/16/23 06:53 AM (6 months, 10 days ago)

Nice syncro! Very cool :awesomenod:

Ahh yes -slav I learned that one from my research into Scandinavian history , it has to do with the enslavement of the Slavic people  by the Norsemen IIRC


existence (n.)
late 14c., "reality," from Old French existence, from Medieval Latin existentia/exsistentia, from existentem/exsistentem (nominative existens/exsistens) "existent," present participle of Latin existere/exsistere "stand forth, come out, emerge; appear, be visible, come to light; arise, be produced; turn into," and, as a secondary meaning, "exist, be;" from ex "forth" (see ex-) + sistere "cause to stand," from PIE *si-st-, reduplicated form of root *sta- "to stand, make or be firm."


To add on to the, to expand

Sanskrit (ब्रह्मन्) Brahman (an n-stem, nominative bráhma, from a root bṛh- "to swell, expand, grow, enlarge") is a neuter noun to be distinguished from the masculine brahmán—denoting a person associated with Brahman, and from Brahmā, the creator God in the Hindu Trinity, the Trimurti. Brahman is thus a gender-neutral concept that implies greater impersonality than masculine or feminine conceptions of the deity. Brahman is referred to as the supreme self. Puligandla states it as "the unchanging reality amidst and beyond the world",[24] while Sinar states Brahman is a concept that "cannot be exactly defined".[25]



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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #28397359 - 07/16/23 08:43 AM (6 months, 9 days ago)

As well, brahmin referring to the priestly class or kind of yogi. I didn't register at first but I guess we do use brahman to refer to a person high in that, different from the former and use of brahman as the ultimate itself.

Is that true? :headscratch: Saying that guy is a brahman, distinct from he is a brahmin.


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Re: Etymology [Re: syncro] * 1
    #28397366 - 07/16/23 08:48 AM (6 months, 9 days ago)

Yes Brahmin is specifically a priestly caste (a varna https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varna_(Hinduism)
While Brahman denotes more of a concept

I suppose one would say , he is a brahmin and he is brahman

Though being a brahmin is just a superimposition on consciousness:megacrankey: :kingcrankey:
:lol::awehigh:

I suppose even aham brahmasi is a superimposition,  it's kind of like nirvana or the concept of letting things go and negating all concepts , which is itself a damned concept ! :lol: desiring to not desire


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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos] * 1
    #28397387 - 07/16/23 09:01 AM (6 months, 9 days ago)

The Pathless Path :awesomenod::hereyougo:

path (n.)
Old English paþ, pæþ "narrow passageway or route across land, a track worn by the feet of people or animals treading it," from West Germanic *patha- (source also of Old Frisian path, Middle Dutch pat, Dutch pad, Old High German pfad, German Pfad "path"), a word of uncertain origin, not attested in Old Norse or Gothic.


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Re: Etymology [Re: syncro] * 1
    #28397403 - 07/16/23 09:11 AM (6 months, 9 days ago)

Re: Brahman, also we have
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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos] * 2
    #28397412 - 07/16/23 09:18 AM (6 months, 9 days ago)

The pathless path

Look, it cannot be seen - it is beyond
form.
Listen, it cannot be heard - it is beyond
sound.
Grasp, it cannot be held - it is
intangible.
These three are indefinable;
Therefore they are joined in one


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tao etymology
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The term "Tao" has its roots in Chinese philosophy and is associated with Taoism, also known as Daoism. The etymology of "Tao" can be traced back to ancient Chinese characters.

The character for "Tao" is 道 in simplified Chinese or 道 in traditional Chinese. It consists of two parts: 辶 (chuo) on the left side, representing walking or moving, and 首 (shou) on the right side, which originally meant "head" but later took on the meaning of "chief" or "beginning."

The character 道 (Tao) is a combination of these two elements, and its original meaning refers to a path, a way, or a road. In the context of Taoism, it represents the fundamental principle or the underlying cosmic order that governs the universe. It is often translated as "the Way" or "the Way of Nature."

The concept of Tao in Taoism encompasses notions of harmony, balance, naturalness, and the interconnectedness of all things. It implies living in accordance with the natural order and finding one's place within it. The Tao is often associated with the concept of non-action (wu wei), which emphasizes the idea of spontaneous and effortless action in harmony with the flow of the Tao.

Overall, the etymology of "Tao" reflects its fundamental meaning as a path or a way, and it encompasses a broader philosophical and metaphysical concept in Taoist philosophy.




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    #28397418 - 07/16/23 09:22 AM (6 months, 9 days ago)

Or is pathless path more attributed to zen?

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The term "Zen" has its origins in East Asian Buddhism, particularly in the Chinese Chan tradition (known as "Seon" in Korean and "Thiền" in Vietnamese). The etymology of "Zen" can be traced back to its Chinese counterpart, "Chan" (禪).

The Chinese character 禪 (Chan) is composed of two parts: 示 (shi) on the left side, representing "altar" or "spiritual matters," and 䍃 (dan) on the right side, which originally meant "to work with silk threads." Together, they convey the idea of focusing one's mind on spiritual matters or engaging in meditation.

"Chan" was later introduced to Japan, where it became known as "Zen." The term "Zen" is derived from the Japanese pronunciation of the Chinese character 禪 (Chan). Over time, Zen Buddhism developed its unique characteristics and practices in Japan, influenced by both Chinese Chan Buddhism and indigenous Japanese culture.

The essence of Zen is the direct experience and realization of one's true nature or Buddha nature through meditation and mindfulness. Zen emphasizes direct insight into the nature of reality beyond conceptual thinking, often through intensive meditation practices such as zazen (seated meditation) and koan study (paradoxical questions or statements meant to provoke insight).

In summary, "Zen" is the Japanese term for the Chinese word "Chan," which refers to a specific branch of Buddhism that emphasizes direct experiential insight and meditation. Its etymology suggests the focus on spiritual matters and the practice of meditation to attain profound realization.




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Re: Etymology [Re: syncro]
    #28398305 - 07/17/23 04:34 AM (6 months, 9 days ago)

"I suppose even aham brahmasi is a superimposition,  it's kind of like nirvana or the concept of letting things go and negating all concepts , which is itself a damned concept ! :lol: desiring to not desire"

:yesnod: The correct concepts are cool to keep and use. (loving-like is eternal)

Judging them by their fruits, it is seen the good ones lead to peace or manolaya, annihilation (of superimposition), etc.


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Re: Etymology [Re: syncro] * 1
    #28398340 - 07/17/23 06:10 AM (6 months, 9 days ago)

Definitely one of the reasons I think reality is so , paradoxical it's almost as if it's meant to not make total sense

concept (n.)
"a general notion, the immediate object of a thought," 1550s, from Medieval Latin conceptum "draft, abstract," in classical Latin "(a thing) conceived," from concep-, past-participle stem of concipere "to take in and hold; become pregnant," from con-, here perhaps an intensive prefix (see con-), + combining form of capere "to take" (from PIE root *kap- "to grasp"). In some 16c. cases a refashioning of conceit, perhaps to avoid negative connotations that had begun to cling to that word.

conceive (v.)
late 13c., conceiven, "take (seed) into the womb, become pregnant," from stem of Old French conceveir (Modern French concevoir), from Latin concipere (past participle conceptus) "to take in and hold; become pregnant" (source also of Spanish concebir, Portuguese concebre, Italian concepere), from con-, here perhaps an intensive prefix (see con-), + combining form of capere "to take" (from PIE root *kap- "to grasp").


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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #28398551 - 07/17/23 10:05 AM (6 months, 8 days ago)

Those sneaky concepts.
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Re: Etymology [Re: syncro] * 2
    #28398556 - 07/17/23 10:12 AM (6 months, 8 days ago)

:strokebeard:

sneak (v.)
1550s (implied in sneakish), "creep or steal about privately; move or go in a stealthy, slinking way" (intransitive); perhaps from some dialectal survival of Middle English sniken "to creep, crawl" (c. 1200), which is from Old English snican "to sneak along, creep, crawl," from Proto-Germanic *sneikanan, which is related to the root of snail and snake (n.).

I think of the ouroborus:awesomenod:


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