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Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 * 3
    #28395406 - 07/14/23 01:09 PM (6 months, 11 days ago)

Found a single, large, early bird from an awesome patch: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/172886498

Nights have been a little on the cooler side and lots of rain/humidity lately, but this seems out of season. Probably ~1500 feet above sea level in a hemlock forest that has mostly replaced a mature beech/maple area.

The pics really don't do this mushroom justice, the bluing was amazing! Took a long time to blue, as well.

Haven't been active on here, so Hi! and happy hunting all!


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: raffib128]
    #28395422 - 07/14/23 01:29 PM (6 months, 11 days ago)

Oh yeah!  Never found one and I probly never will, but I love when this thread pops up.  Congrats on the years first finds!


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: raffib128]
    #28395564 - 07/14/23 04:09 PM (6 months, 11 days ago)

Nice find - thanks for posting.
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: gman]
    #28395837 - 07/14/23 09:08 PM (6 months, 11 days ago)

Awesome!
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: evlyshrooms]
    #28396711 - 07/15/23 04:46 PM (6 months, 10 days ago)

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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: KeyMaker]
    #28396818 - 07/15/23 07:19 PM (6 months, 10 days ago)

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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Pluviophile]
    #28396940 - 07/15/23 09:34 PM (6 months, 10 days ago)

Excellent, thanks for this!

I've found a maple/birch/hemlock mixed forest that I'm anxious to explore this summer/fall.  No beech that I could see, unfortunately.
This area is full of defunct mid-1800's settlements, so hopefully the growth patterns of the forest will help with the hunt :smile:

I found a huge beech forest near water that was being logged and chipped in NW PA on a vacation earlier this year.  Unfortunately it's too far to visit regularly but I may hit it up in a few years again to see if anything takes hold.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: raffib128]
    #28397048 - 07/15/23 11:59 PM (6 months, 10 days ago)

Nice, thanks for sharing!

It's always nice to see caerulipes!


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Lucis]
    #28397155 - 07/16/23 04:00 AM (6 months, 10 days ago)

Thanks all! Vermont keeps getting inundated with rain and the nights have stayed rather cool; could be a long and productive P. caerulipes season up here.

Sounds like you have some good habitat, snowveil.

Also, it's worth checking inaturalist for observations. The following obs was made before I found the one I posted: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/170931198

Actually, after looking at those pictures, I need to double check the pit at work; there are a ton of wood chips that are being colonized by little brown mushrooms, but I didn't even think about caerulipes. Would be awesome if they are, cause there are hundreds of them right now!


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: raffib128]
    #28397356 - 07/16/23 08:41 AM (6 months, 9 days ago)

Gonna have to head out to my spot soon then. Does anyone know if these fruit earlier or later further north? Or is it typically elevation-based?


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: raffib128]
    #28409403 - 07/26/23 05:36 PM (5 months, 30 days ago)

This is awesome! I’ve been looking (Northern NH) but no joy yet… I’m new so who knows I may have seen some and missed them. Would love to observe this species in the wild! Bet you are psycheddddd!


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Humpty]
    #28409582 - 07/26/23 08:16 PM (5 months, 30 days ago)

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This is awesome! I’ve been looking (Northern NH) but no joy yet… I’m new so who knows I may have seen some and missed them. Would love to observe this species in the wild! Bet you are psycheddddd!



Welcome to shroomery!  I haven't found this species yet, but I did find my first actives this year.  I would recommend studying all the pictures of caerulipes posted on here, and read up on the habitat.  Find a place that matches the habitat description as much as possible.  People find them where I am, and where you are.  Good luck!


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: KeyMaker]
    #28416742 - 08/01/23 08:32 PM (5 months, 24 days ago)

Can anyone contribute some insight as to indicator species, or general weather conditions for success?  It's early August in PA, and it seems like the bulk of finds occur later in the year...but I want to get out early :smile:

Last weekend I scoped out a mixed birch / striped maple / hemlock forest (with a few pines, and I'm sure other hardwoods I can't identify) near a stream in PA.  I saw lots of Painted Sillius, Old man of the woods, Chanterelles, Hygrocybes, and various Amanitas.  The hemlock canopy was thick enough to keep the briars/groundcover away, but there were plenty of hardwoods mixed in, and plenty of rocks and moss covering the ground.

I scoped out the fallen hardwoods within the forest, but I'm wondering if it's a little early?

Even if it's anecdotal...any particular mushrooms or other species you see growing, besides beech/birch/maple, that maybe we can find some sort of pattern for?


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: snowveil] * 2
    #28416898 - 08/01/23 11:20 PM (5 months, 24 days ago)

Sweet find Raffib!! :congrats:

I checked one of my spots after seeing this and found some really early hericium, but no lipes yet. Cool early find!

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snowveil said:
Can anyone contribute some insight as to indicator species, or general weather conditions for success? 




I usually start seeing them shortly after the night time lows start dipping into the low 50s upper 40s; that will likely happen at a different times depending on location. In the areas that I find them I also find a lot of Hericium (occasionally even on the same logs though the lipes prefer it more rotted and wet) The caerulipes usually show up more towards the beginning of hericium season and end before them as well. If you haven’t already found them, I posted a bunch of videos in one of the past caerulipe seasonal threads showing panoramics in the habitat that may also help.

Edit: found it https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27433568#27433568


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Icyurmt] * 1
    #28420509 - 08/04/23 12:57 PM (5 months, 21 days ago)

Thanks, Icyurmt!

Found a few more babies, although a few were already dried out: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/176643287

Same spot as last time. Nights have been cool and humidity low. It's a mushroom wonderland out there right now with all the rain we've been getting, should be a fun fall season!


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: raffib128]
    #28421356 - 08/05/23 03:31 AM (5 months, 21 days ago)

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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Baby Tad]
    #28425808 - 08/08/23 02:27 PM (5 months, 17 days ago)

A few new fruits at the same spot: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/177399010

Thanks for all the enthusiasm; I'll have to go check some other spots soon! Hope you are all enjoying a bountiful mushroom season!


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: raffib128]
    #28425834 - 08/08/23 02:56 PM (5 months, 17 days ago)

nice! thanks for continuing to post habitat shots. They haven't been found in my state yet but ya never know


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: evlyshrooms]
    #28428724 - 08/10/23 04:35 PM (5 months, 15 days ago)

Some more fruits, a couple have withered: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/177739551

The patch is spreading down the log now. Added another habitat photo too.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: raffib128]
    #28428858 - 08/10/23 05:59 PM (5 months, 15 days ago)

Thank you for all of your contributions to this thread!
Truly inspirational!

These have eluded me for years in western Massachusetts.
I’ll be going out this weekend again to search.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Pluviophile]
    #28429106 - 08/10/23 08:59 PM (5 months, 15 days ago)

Amazing pictures, Raffib!  Thanks Icyurmt for that link.  I'm wondering when these usually pop up in w. v. ...I assume I would be best off looking in higher elevations, right?


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: KeyMaker]
    #28429369 - 08/11/23 05:16 AM (5 months, 15 days ago)

Thanks again all. There are also two observations of this species from this season on inat besides the ones I posted, so worth checking there as well to possibly get a sense of fruiting times closer to your area. You could also check mushroomobserver.org.

Keymaker, I would maybe recommend using inat to search for beech in WV: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=33&subview=map&taxon_id=49202

I think that's a good starting point, as it seems to be the preferred substrate of this species. Try sugar maple and birch too (not sure what birch species folks are finding them on, never seen them on birch myself). Perhaps searching for hemlock, or places where beech and hemlock overlap, would show good habitat. Also, the preferred substrate for the species may be different down there.

Also, expect to be disappointed. I've combed through massive beech stands to no avail. They do seem to be locally abundant though, so if you find one, definitely search that area up and down.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: raffib128]
    #28429498 - 08/11/23 08:22 AM (5 months, 14 days ago)

I feel like I have the perfect habitat right here where I'm at in Maine, but I think the elevation is too low for them to pop when I'm here (usually August)


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Moria841] * 1
    #28429680 - 08/11/23 10:52 AM (5 months, 14 days ago)

Went and checked another spot today and found some nice gregarious clusters. This log hosted the largest fruiting I've ever seen a few years ago, so maybe it's just getting started.

https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/177848952

Also, just a reminder to 100% identify every mushroom you collect with intent to consume; Galerina loves beech too!


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: raffib128] * 2
    #28433645 - 08/14/23 10:53 AM (5 months, 11 days ago)

finally started growing up here           
                                         
   


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: philocybe] * 1
    #28434002 - 08/14/23 03:43 PM (5 months, 11 days ago)

Very nice, philocybe! Those look prime for harvest!

Went back to the first patch today. Lots of new fruits, but not a lot of new activity in areas that have been fruiting.

https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/178435064

I've been in some nice woods with well-rotted beech and birch logs galore recently and haven't found any new caerulipes spots. Lots of cool mushrooms though!


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: raffib128] * 3
    #28437428 - 08/17/23 05:55 PM (5 months, 8 days ago)

tried a new forest today. one section 50/50 maple/beech with piles of old beech logs and stumps all over. i was in a hurry so i didn't see everything but found tow patches in no time and will go back asap. 
                                         

                                         

                                         

                                         
                  both patches were surrounding stumps.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: philocybe] * 2
    #28440417 - 08/20/23 10:12 AM (5 months, 5 days ago)

first time finding these, coastal maine




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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: 3way_beef]
    #28440436 - 08/20/23 10:22 AM (5 months, 5 days ago)

Beautiful!

I have a few more spots I’m going to check tomorrow


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Pluviophile] * 2
    #28440899 - 08/20/23 05:27 PM (5 months, 5 days ago)



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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Sporespreder] * 1
    #28441154 - 08/20/23 10:20 PM (5 months, 5 days ago)

Have we finished with this "beech in hemlock forest" thing and we're now saying to just go check around dead beech & maple debris? Cause in that case i wont have to drive an hour to find these things this year lol


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Moria841] * 1
    #28441298 - 08/21/23 06:56 AM (5 months, 4 days ago)

I don’t think elevation matters too much... wet rotten wood in wet areas where your getting demolished by mosquitoes 🦟 ...beech and birch and basswood.... mixed conifer hemlock/beech/birch


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Sporespreder] * 1
    #28441980 - 08/21/23 04:52 PM (5 months, 4 days ago)

They are popping in ny/ma. I didn’t have a lot of time to poke around and it was a new area for me, but there are quite a few of them out now.



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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Icyurmt] * 2
    #28442171 - 08/21/23 08:39 PM (5 months, 4 days ago)

went to a couple other spots nearby today and found more caerulipes at both places, as well as some trumpets and gymnopilus





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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: 3way_beef]
    #28442328 - 08/22/23 12:25 AM (5 months, 4 days ago)

Are these lowland habitats? They look very damp. Near streams?


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Moria841]
    #28442349 - 08/22/23 01:54 AM (5 months, 4 days ago)

Never seen these before, they are cool looking.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Moria841]
    #28442403 - 08/22/23 05:14 AM (5 months, 4 days ago)

First spot I went to yesterday was a lowland habitat close to a stream, and I found more patches around there. but was also surprised to find the dryer looking ones away from water on a south facing slope that is definitely more “upland” habitat where I find lots of trumpets


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: 3way_beef]
    #28442462 - 08/22/23 07:42 AM (5 months, 3 days ago)

The spot I've been scouting is predominantly beech, with lots of maple and some hemlock, didn't see any birch.  Lots of streams, eventually leading to a large manmade lake.  I have several big hills I could climb around here, facing all directions.  I've found some enoki and oysters growing off logs, some boletes, ect. 

Got one really blurry picture of what someone saw out there yesterday while fishing...


I don't think that's a good enough pic to tell, just thought I would should.  It's probably too early for w v.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: 3way_beef]
    #28442470 - 08/22/23 07:48 AM (5 months, 3 days ago)

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First spot I went to yesterday was a lowland habitat close to a stream, and I found more patches around there. but was also surprised to find the dryer looking ones away from water on a south facing slope that is definitely more “upland” habitat where I find lots of trumpets



I actually usually find trumpets in more lowland areas, or at least near washes, somewhat swampy areas. Or, like you mentioned, on slopes leading into these types of areas. But thats jist my experience


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Moria841]
    #28442808 - 08/22/23 12:37 PM (5 months, 3 days ago)

interesting, out of the beech forests near me i don’t usually find trumpets in the darker/wetter lowland areas. asides from the ones in my last post, those were nearby the caerulipes. plenty of craterellus ignicolor in the caerulipes areas, but those are pretty much everywhere this year

i returned to that area this morning and found a few more patches, some more gyms too. going to check out some different beech forest this afternoon!


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: 3way_beef] * 3
    #28443028 - 08/22/23 05:07 PM (5 months, 3 days ago)

A few more from today.

Wet and rotted hardwood and mosquitoes in your eyes = Caerulipes likely nearby.
They seem to prefer the smooth bark sp like beech, birch, maple, etc. but I’m starting to think it’s because of the way they get wet and rot on the inside while still keeping that layer of bark which keeps it from drying out. I think the other habitat features like hemlock, sloping areas, near streams, etc. are just good indicators of where you are more likely to see those types of hardwoods that will stay nice and wet in the leaf litter while they decay.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Icyurmt]
    #28443713 - 08/23/23 11:00 AM (5 months, 2 days ago)

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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Icyurmt]
    #28443928 - 08/23/23 02:12 PM (5 months, 2 days ago)

Thanks for all of the habitat knowledge, Icyurmt.

I spent a few hours location scouting this morning in Pennsylvania...lots of heavily rotten birch trees, and I definitely needed long pants/sleeves and a bug net.  No luck on the caerulipes front, but I wonder if it isn't still a bit early.

Lots of Lactarius, Cortinarius, Various Chanterelles, and Hygrocybes today...but no caerulipes yet.  Still looking!


Can anyone give more insight into the taxonomic history of this mushroom? I believe I remember Alan mentioning that it's more closely related to Psilocybe semilanceata, unlike the ovoids in PA which are closer to cubensis.  Could/would this mean it was likely spread by humans, coming from the UK, and adapted to these growing conditions?  If so, could abandoned mining/logging towns be a vector point? Just a thought this morning, but I don't have anything to back it up with.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Icyurmt] * 1
    #28444467 - 08/23/23 08:50 PM (5 months, 2 days ago)

Getting Bluefoots in central NY! 💥
These were in my beech tree section of woods. Usually I find Hericium here. Found some patches growing in beech leaf duff even. More pics in my gallery







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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: SchwiftySchrooms]
    #28444677 - 08/24/23 04:47 AM (5 months, 2 days ago)

Thanks for the pov shot it really puts their true tiny size in perspective :takingnotes:
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: rhizoRider] * 1
    #28447693 - 08/26/23 05:52 PM (4 months, 30 days ago)

Hiked another great trail along the MA/NY border and spotted a bunch of them in both states along the way without even leaving the path (a few within sight of the border marker).
I think we are gonna have to stop calling these rare, I really believe they are relatively common when the conditions are right; they’re just tiny, easy to overlook, and in their habatat the preferred conditions don’t seem to last too long. In the past couple of years though Ive spotted more patches of caerulipes then gyms or active pluteus combined.

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A couple zoomed out/in shots side by side to try and show their small size in relation to habitat.









Hericium starting to show up.

G. luteus on white birch, something I’ve never seen before.

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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Icyurmt] * 1
    #28448043 - 08/27/23 06:17 AM (4 months, 29 days ago)

nice photos, that ridge in the distance looks cool! i agree with your thoughts on the prevalence of caerulipes, this is my first year really looking for them but have found them in several distinct locations with relative quickness. i love how similar they are to liberty caps

what do you usually find gymnopilus luteus growing from? white birch seems to be the preferred substrate in my area


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Icyurmt]
    #28448260 - 08/27/23 10:20 AM (4 months, 29 days ago)

Awesome finds! It poured thursday and friday around me and I've got today and tomorrow off and so I'm definitely spending them in the woods!  *fingers crossed* :biggrin:


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Carnonos] * 2
    #28448844 - 08/27/23 04:49 PM (4 months, 29 days ago)

best finds of the week with habitat                                                                             
                                         
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    #28449018 - 08/27/23 07:18 PM (4 months, 29 days ago)

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what do you usually find gymnopilus luteus growing from? white birch seems to be the preferred substrate in my area




Wild. I typically find luteus on a mix of all different hard woods including other types of birch, just never on white birch. Honestly I rarely see anything grow on fallen white birch aside from mycena, very few sp seem to care for it in the areas I frequent.


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    #28449349 - 08/28/23 04:19 AM (4 months, 29 days ago)

I see gymnopilus on softer hardwoods like poplar and apple. Mostly poplar (which is a pioneer species of fields, so should be a lot of big dead poplars on landscapes where the fields were abandoned 50-100 years ago, because they are relatively short-lived trees).

https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/180543186

https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/180550617

A couple finds in one area, including a sprawling fruiting area with big mushrooms in fat clusters. Mosquitoes were bad everywhere, but especially bad where I found the caerulipes. Both spots are hemlock dominated stands with lots of dead hardwoods. I think the hemlocks do well in these spots cause they can handle the lack of oxygen on their roots that comes with the high water table.

Very nice to see everyone's success this year. I believe the season is going strong, but should be dwindling soon in my area.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: raffib128] * 4
    #28450458 - 08/28/23 08:09 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

The past two days of hiking definitely payed off... Northwest CT reporting in!


The patch at the base of an old rotting black birch (Betula lenta) amongst several younger beech and hemlock.  Total area of patch roughly 1 meter square.




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Habitat photos - location was roughly in the middle between a river and vernal pool at the base of a hill (both features about 20-30 yards on either side of this patch):

   


Comparison Photos of Bruising on Single Fruitbody.  Stipe and edge of cap were lightly pinched between thumb and finger.  Time intervals for photos are T+0 minutes, T+2min, T+60min.:

   


Forgot to take picture of the cap I broke in half to show the presence of a separable pellicle, but it's present in these mushrooms.  Was much easier to lift it on fresher darker fruitbodies, was difficult to lift on older lighter caps without re-hydration, but still present.  Currently have about a 1/2 dozen caps printing that I brought home, but given the color of the gills in some of the above shots I'm pretty sure it's going to be purplish-brown come morning.


*Edit: Just realized if you look closely in the 6th "Beauty Shot" you can see a spore shadow on the green beech leaf in the background... that looks browinsh-purple to me even if it is out of focus...


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Carnonos]
    #28450536 - 08/28/23 09:09 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

:congrats::awedance:Wow awesome finds and pics


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    #28451535 - 08/29/23 07:15 PM (4 months, 27 days ago)

went out yesterday to check some of the spots i found them in last week and only saw a couple. today i went out into some woods a bit further from home that i’ve never been in, but i had a good idea of what to expect for forest types

took a bit of hiking up the trail to start finding them, but they were pretty abundant in some areas!











lots of trumpets, most of the patches were full of old dried up mushrooms but the fresh ones were massive

hopefully we get some good rain tomorrow!


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: raffib128]
    #28451979 - 08/30/23 04:00 AM (4 months, 27 days ago)

Almost all if not all my gym logs are on basswood in central ny, maybe I gotta look on other logs


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    #28452174 - 08/30/23 09:17 AM (4 months, 26 days ago)

So a question for you more experienced folks since this is my first time with a wild Psilocybe ID... Successfully printed the caps I brought home the other day, but they've got me scratching my head.  Everything I've read says that this shroom's print should be purple-brown so I'm thinking along the lines of cubensis or ovoid color-wise, like dark purple-brown.  Did a quick search to find some good definitive photos of caerulipes to compare to but couldn't really find any good ones.  Mine came out a lighter brown with a kind of taupe purplish-clay tint to them.  Is this a thing to have lighter prints from bluefoots or did I get bamboozled? (kinda thinking not since every other characteristic matches caerulipes, but you never can be too careful in ID-ing)


 


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    #28452360 - 08/30/23 12:20 PM (4 months, 26 days ago)

spore color of psilocybe can vary. That color print isn't outside realm of possibility for them. If theyre indeed prints from specimens you posted you're good dude


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    #28452386 - 08/30/23 12:41 PM (4 months, 26 days ago)

:whathesaid:

I’ve had a hell of a time getting them to drop good prints, but when they did it’s always been a light pinkish brown.

Part of the reason why it’s difficult to find photos of the prints I think is because so few of have been passes around and they’ve never been cultivated afaik. I highly encourage anyone here that does print them to think about doing a small giveaway or some thing like that to help give back and further some research on these cool little guys. I know one person I passed along a print to had been looking for prints for close to a decade, so you could really make someone’s day as well.

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    #28452414 - 08/30/23 01:16 PM (4 months, 26 days ago)

I'll bet some of the success comes from figuring out the habitat, which seems to have happened on this forum. We're scientists! :smile:

It's actually pretty amazing how many discoveries have happened here. What a great community; keep posting pics all!


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    #28452418 - 08/30/23 01:19 PM (4 months, 26 days ago)

@Sporespreder Basswood is a pretty soft hardwood actually (I'm surprised, I just looked that up). I'll definitely have to keep an eye out for basswood logs.


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    #28452541 - 08/30/23 03:56 PM (4 months, 26 days ago)

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spore color of psilocybe can vary. That color print isn't outside realm of possibility for them. If theyre indeed prints from specimens you posted you're good dude






Quote:

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:whathesaid:

I’ve had a hell of a time getting them to drop good prints, but when they did it’s always been a light pinkish brown.






Thanks for the input, definitely solidifies the ID in my own mind then.  Just to satisfy my own curiosity I went back and harvested a couple more to see if there was any significant variation in print color from this patch:

   



Yeeeaaahhhh... Just a "couple" 
:dealwithit3:


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    #28452578 - 08/30/23 04:37 PM (4 months, 26 days ago)

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    #28453822 - 08/31/23 04:28 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

Excellent formation on those ranks of caerulipes! :smile:


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    #28453948 - 08/31/23 05:47 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

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Excellent formation on those ranks of caerulipes! :smile:




Thnx, figured I had to get the troops in formation before I start Operation "Johnny Apple Seed" :wink:


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    #28454140 - 08/31/23 07:46 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

I fuckin' love it.


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    #28454207 - 08/31/23 08:29 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

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Quote:

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spore color of psilocybe can vary. That color print isn't outside realm of possibility for them. If theyre indeed prints from specimens you posted you're good dude






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:whathesaid:

I’ve had a hell of a time getting them to drop good prints, but when they did it’s always been a light pinkish brown.






Thanks for the input, definitely solidifies the ID in my own mind then.  Just to satisfy my own curiosity I went back and harvested a couple more to see if there was any significant variation in print color from this patch:

   



Yeeeaaahhhh... Just a "couple" 
:dealwithit3:




:ohmyfuck::fuckyeah::congrats:

Well done!!! That’s probably the most caerulipe prints ever taken, and those look like nice thick prints too, I’m impressed! That’s a hell of a patch you found there as well. :bow2:

Here’s how faint the few that dropped any spores for me turned out for comparison :shrug:


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    #28454309 - 08/31/23 09:38 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

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Well done!!! That’s probably the most caerulipe prints ever taken, and those look like nice thick prints too, I’m impressed! That’s a hell of a patch you found there as well. :bow2:

Here’s how faint the few that dropped any spores for me turned out for comparison :shrug:






Something I noticed with printing this many... It seems I had a better result with caps that were just beyond the new, fresh young brown stage and had transitioned to buff but were still bell shaped and had not fully flattened open yet.  Older flatter caps were still easier than younger brown caps though.  You can see in the full sheet pic that there's a couple spots where a print is missing - that was a younger cinnamon brown cap that didn't drop any.  Another thing I noticed is that I had to re-apply water to these caps to really get them to drop prints.  I did the standard "drop of water then cover with a dish" like I do for every other mushroom and let it sit for about 4 hours, came back to really wispy prints.  I thought maybe I hadn't gotten the caps wet enough so I repeated.  It seemed like whenever I added another drop of water the prints got thicker and thicker.  Took the night I brought them home and all the next day applying water half a dozen times or more to get these prints. They just refused to drop unless they were constantly hydrated.  I wonder if that's the key, periodic re-hydration over a longer (12+hr) time - just my anecdotal observation :shrug:


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    #28454363 - 08/31/23 10:59 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

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They just refused to drop unless they were constantly hydrated.  I wonder if that's the key, periodic re-hydration over a longer (12+hr) time




Yes, I think that is definitely a part of it and I’ve been trying a few different things. I left those for 36-48 hours (until they completely dried up or the worms ate them) a drop of water on the cap once or twice when checked, underneath individual containers with lightly misted sides, all inside of a SAB, and they are still barely visible. :confused: I also agree with you that the condition as well as their maturity when found must play a big part in it too. I’ve had some success past seasons, but for whatever reason caerulipes have consistently given me a run for my money.


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    #28454571 - 09/01/23 07:09 AM (4 months, 24 days ago)

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I left those for 36-48 hours (until they completely dried up or the worms ate them)




huh... I guess I should feel fortunate I got my prints in ~24hrs.  Beginners luck perhaps?

Now I have to hope I get a second flush from this patch or wait till next year to see if I can repeat it.


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    #28454694 - 09/01/23 09:08 AM (4 months, 24 days ago)

10-15 min hunt, found 2.5g dry weight in a very small area of rotten wet beach. Thinking peak season is now for my area. I’m seeing many pins as well. I spent a week up north a few hours from here hunting and only found about 2g. And they were singular, very small. Not like clusters the size like I’m finding here. More pics in my gallery


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: SchwiftySchrooms]
    #28455158 - 09/01/23 05:07 PM (4 months, 24 days ago)

A few more


Some of the closer lookalikes I frequently see for comparison. Big difference in the gills, but the caps can sometimes look similar to dryer caerulipes and these were found ~4’ from one another. Not difficult to tell the difference but they do occasionally make me bend over to double check.


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    #28455174 - 09/01/23 05:21 PM (4 months, 24 days ago)

A couple of dried out super-blue ones: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181276208

Swarms of tiny insects crawling on my hands; you can see them in the pics. Must've been a party in there.

I know I've asked this before, but can we be sure these aren't P. aztecorum? These two mushrooms do seem to have pretty straw-colored caps.


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    #28456154 - 09/02/23 02:54 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

I think I finally found a few...



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    #28456212 - 09/02/23 03:57 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

two on left in first pic look are something else.


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    #28456332 - 09/02/23 06:33 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

gill spacing is definitely a good thing to key in on when comparing to some of the look a likes in drier conditions. if all else fails i find smelling them to be a helpful indicator before any bruising is noticeable, assuming you are familiar with their smell already


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    #28456339 - 09/02/23 06:45 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

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two on left in first pic look are something else.


the gills along edge of bigger two that are together look super cool.




Agreed the two on the first pic on the left are not blues but the others look spot on. There are a few really good look-alikes out there. The gills and stipe are a great reference as well as bluing. If it doesn't blue throw it out.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Unknownfungi] * 1
    #28456340 - 09/02/23 06:48 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

Some ovoids, bluefoots, and hericium for size comparison.






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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: evlyshrooms] * 1
    #28456347 - 09/02/23 06:57 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

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two on left in first pic look are something else.





That's a distinct possibility. I had all kinds of other mushrooms in my hands at that point. Should I remove that pic to avoid potential confusion?

This was yet another species I set out to find this year after reading this forum, and I'm stoked I finally did. It was also my first time finding a Psilocybe species in the wild. I'm in southern Maine, and I have to say that one of the biggest challenges was that the described habitat can be found along pretty much every trail system I frequent, so there is just an insane amount of ground to cover. With the frequent rains we've gotten this year, there are also a million other species popping up wherever one finds well rotted stumps and logs, leaf litter, and lignin rich soil. So filtering out not-caerulipes becomes a full-time job.

That said, I struck out at all of my local spots and decided to drive an hour inland to visit some friends in Oxford County whose property is predominantly beech woods. Four of us were out hunting for a little over an hour and found a ton of cool mushrooms, but no caerulipes. We were almost back to the house when I saw something that looked promising on a beech log. I took a bunch of in situ photos and was getting pretty excited when my friend pointed out that they looked like Psathyrella. I picked them and checked for any signs of bruising, which were not forthcoming. Before I managed to mentally register this defeat, we started looking at the leaf litter in the surrounding area, and saying, "Wait, what about this one?". And sure enough, there they were. But somehow I didn't manage to get a single photo before picking or of the overall habitat. D'oh!

The location where we found them was towards the bottom of a hill, about 50 yards from the road, in an area where a lot of the water coming down the slope had been diverted to. Beech woods with a few birch, hemlock, red oak, and white pine mixed in, and a thick layer of decomposing leaf litter.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Lignicolous] * 1
    #28458488 - 09/04/23 02:50 PM (4 months, 21 days ago)



Found a few today, though the photography was not cooperating :rolleyes:


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Moria841]
    #28458503 - 09/04/23 03:06 PM (4 months, 21 days ago)

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Found a few today, though the photography was not cooperating :rolleyes:





Let's go!


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: KeyMaker]
    #28459465 - 09/05/23 11:47 AM (4 months, 20 days ago)

Well, believe it or not I may have found some. I went hunting for the habitat and found some lovely beech groves situated amidst tall pines and other hardwoods and at the base of one dying beech cluster I found what I think may be P. caerulipes - and a lot of them.


https://i.imgur.com/QTrbs31.jpg
Any insight would be hugely appreciated.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Humpty]
    #28459469 - 09/05/23 11:51 AM (4 months, 20 days ago)

Looks like Armillaria


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Moria841]
    #28459482 - 09/05/23 12:09 PM (4 months, 20 days ago)

Yea those are honey mush not blue foots


Hey nice nice finds Moria841 :awedance::cheers::congrats:


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: rhizoRider]
    #28459488 - 09/05/23 12:15 PM (4 months, 20 days ago)

I see - thank you and thanks to the poster above for the clarification. I’ll collect some and take spore prints to hopefully improve my identification skills.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Humpty]
    #28459528 - 09/05/23 01:14 PM (4 months, 20 days ago)

Take spore print on tin foil, those will show white color print. :thumbup:


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: rhizoRider]
    #28459625 - 09/05/23 02:52 PM (4 months, 20 days ago)

Thank you, yes I always try to take one on white paper and one on foil because I am inexperienced and unsure what spore color to expect. Your hypothesis was of course correct and these all displayed a white print.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Humpty]
    #28461020 - 09/06/23 08:40 PM (4 months, 19 days ago)

So, the most hopeful spot for me is around a big manmade lake.  All crucial tree species accounted for, lots of big hills, small creeks running into the lake, very wet areas, ect.  I have a friend with a fishing boat who is down to drop me off anywhere on the shore of the lake.  I'll be able to get to places no one ever could or would hike to.  Are there any indicators I can look for, that might suggest an ideal spot from the lake?  I have a good general area, I'm trying to spot the best habitat within this area.


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