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OfflineCarnonos
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Icyurmt] * 2
    #28452541 - 08/30/23 03:56 PM (4 months, 26 days ago)

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evlyshrooms said:

spore color of psilocybe can vary. That color print isn't outside realm of possibility for them. If theyre indeed prints from specimens you posted you're good dude






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Icyurmt said:
:whathesaid:

I’ve had a hell of a time getting them to drop good prints, but when they did it’s always been a light pinkish brown.






Thanks for the input, definitely solidifies the ID in my own mind then.  Just to satisfy my own curiosity I went back and harvested a couple more to see if there was any significant variation in print color from this patch:

   



Yeeeaaahhhh... Just a "couple" 
:dealwithit3:


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Carnonos]
    #28452578 - 08/30/23 04:37 PM (4 months, 26 days ago)

Holy shit thats inane


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Carnonos]
    #28453822 - 08/31/23 04:28 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

Excellent formation on those ranks of caerulipes! :smile:


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Moria841] * 1
    #28453948 - 08/31/23 05:47 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

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Excellent formation on those ranks of caerulipes! :smile:




Thnx, figured I had to get the troops in formation before I start Operation "Johnny Apple Seed" :wink:


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Carnonos]
    #28454140 - 08/31/23 07:46 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

I fuckin' love it.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Carnonos]
    #28454207 - 08/31/23 08:29 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

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Carnonos said:
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evlyshrooms said:

spore color of psilocybe can vary. That color print isn't outside realm of possibility for them. If theyre indeed prints from specimens you posted you're good dude






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Icyurmt said:
:whathesaid:

I’ve had a hell of a time getting them to drop good prints, but when they did it’s always been a light pinkish brown.






Thanks for the input, definitely solidifies the ID in my own mind then.  Just to satisfy my own curiosity I went back and harvested a couple more to see if there was any significant variation in print color from this patch:

   



Yeeeaaahhhh... Just a "couple" 
:dealwithit3:




:ohmyfuck::fuckyeah::congrats:

Well done!!! That’s probably the most caerulipe prints ever taken, and those look like nice thick prints too, I’m impressed! That’s a hell of a patch you found there as well. :bow2:

Here’s how faint the few that dropped any spores for me turned out for comparison :shrug:


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Icyurmt] * 1
    #28454309 - 08/31/23 09:38 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

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Icyurmt said:

Well done!!! That’s probably the most caerulipe prints ever taken, and those look like nice thick prints too, I’m impressed! That’s a hell of a patch you found there as well. :bow2:

Here’s how faint the few that dropped any spores for me turned out for comparison :shrug:






Something I noticed with printing this many... It seems I had a better result with caps that were just beyond the new, fresh young brown stage and had transitioned to buff but were still bell shaped and had not fully flattened open yet.  Older flatter caps were still easier than younger brown caps though.  You can see in the full sheet pic that there's a couple spots where a print is missing - that was a younger cinnamon brown cap that didn't drop any.  Another thing I noticed is that I had to re-apply water to these caps to really get them to drop prints.  I did the standard "drop of water then cover with a dish" like I do for every other mushroom and let it sit for about 4 hours, came back to really wispy prints.  I thought maybe I hadn't gotten the caps wet enough so I repeated.  It seemed like whenever I added another drop of water the prints got thicker and thicker.  Took the night I brought them home and all the next day applying water half a dozen times or more to get these prints. They just refused to drop unless they were constantly hydrated.  I wonder if that's the key, periodic re-hydration over a longer (12+hr) time - just my anecdotal observation :shrug:


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Carnonos]
    #28454363 - 08/31/23 10:59 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

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They just refused to drop unless they were constantly hydrated.  I wonder if that's the key, periodic re-hydration over a longer (12+hr) time




Yes, I think that is definitely a part of it and I’ve been trying a few different things. I left those for 36-48 hours (until they completely dried up or the worms ate them) a drop of water on the cap once or twice when checked, underneath individual containers with lightly misted sides, all inside of a SAB, and they are still barely visible. :confused: I also agree with you that the condition as well as their maturity when found must play a big part in it too. I’ve had some success past seasons, but for whatever reason caerulipes have consistently given me a run for my money.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Icyurmt]
    #28454571 - 09/01/23 07:09 AM (4 months, 24 days ago)

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I left those for 36-48 hours (until they completely dried up or the worms ate them)




huh... I guess I should feel fortunate I got my prints in ~24hrs.  Beginners luck perhaps?

Now I have to hope I get a second flush from this patch or wait till next year to see if I can repeat it.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Carnonos] * 1
    #28454694 - 09/01/23 09:08 AM (4 months, 24 days ago)

10-15 min hunt, found 2.5g dry weight in a very small area of rotten wet beach. Thinking peak season is now for my area. I’m seeing many pins as well. I spent a week up north a few hours from here hunting and only found about 2g. And they were singular, very small. Not like clusters the size like I’m finding here. More pics in my gallery


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: SchwiftySchrooms]
    #28455158 - 09/01/23 05:07 PM (4 months, 24 days ago)

A few more


Some of the closer lookalikes I frequently see for comparison. Big difference in the gills, but the caps can sometimes look similar to dryer caerulipes and these were found ~4’ from one another. Not difficult to tell the difference but they do occasionally make me bend over to double check.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Icyurmt] * 1
    #28455174 - 09/01/23 05:21 PM (4 months, 24 days ago)

A couple of dried out super-blue ones: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/181276208

Swarms of tiny insects crawling on my hands; you can see them in the pics. Must've been a party in there.

I know I've asked this before, but can we be sure these aren't P. aztecorum? These two mushrooms do seem to have pretty straw-colored caps.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: raffib128] * 1
    #28456154 - 09/02/23 02:54 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

I think I finally found a few...



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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Lignicolous] * 1
    #28456212 - 09/02/23 03:57 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

two on left in first pic look are something else.


the gills along edge of bigger two that are together look super cool.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: evlyshrooms]
    #28456332 - 09/02/23 06:33 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

gill spacing is definitely a good thing to key in on when comparing to some of the look a likes in drier conditions. if all else fails i find smelling them to be a helpful indicator before any bruising is noticeable, assuming you are familiar with their smell already


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: evlyshrooms]
    #28456339 - 09/02/23 06:45 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

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evlyshrooms said:
two on left in first pic look are something else.


the gills along edge of bigger two that are together look super cool.




Agreed the two on the first pic on the left are not blues but the others look spot on. There are a few really good look-alikes out there. The gills and stipe are a great reference as well as bluing. If it doesn't blue throw it out.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Unknownfungi] * 1
    #28456340 - 09/02/23 06:48 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

Some ovoids, bluefoots, and hericium for size comparison.






Some highlights from today






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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: evlyshrooms] * 1
    #28456347 - 09/02/23 06:57 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

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two on left in first pic look are something else.





That's a distinct possibility. I had all kinds of other mushrooms in my hands at that point. Should I remove that pic to avoid potential confusion?

This was yet another species I set out to find this year after reading this forum, and I'm stoked I finally did. It was also my first time finding a Psilocybe species in the wild. I'm in southern Maine, and I have to say that one of the biggest challenges was that the described habitat can be found along pretty much every trail system I frequent, so there is just an insane amount of ground to cover. With the frequent rains we've gotten this year, there are also a million other species popping up wherever one finds well rotted stumps and logs, leaf litter, and lignin rich soil. So filtering out not-caerulipes becomes a full-time job.

That said, I struck out at all of my local spots and decided to drive an hour inland to visit some friends in Oxford County whose property is predominantly beech woods. Four of us were out hunting for a little over an hour and found a ton of cool mushrooms, but no caerulipes. We were almost back to the house when I saw something that looked promising on a beech log. I took a bunch of in situ photos and was getting pretty excited when my friend pointed out that they looked like Psathyrella. I picked them and checked for any signs of bruising, which were not forthcoming. Before I managed to mentally register this defeat, we started looking at the leaf litter in the surrounding area, and saying, "Wait, what about this one?". And sure enough, there they were. But somehow I didn't manage to get a single photo before picking or of the overall habitat. D'oh!

The location where we found them was towards the bottom of a hill, about 50 yards from the road, in an area where a lot of the water coming down the slope had been diverted to. Beech woods with a few birch, hemlock, red oak, and white pine mixed in, and a thick layer of decomposing leaf litter.


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Lignicolous] * 1
    #28458488 - 09/04/23 02:50 PM (4 months, 21 days ago)



Found a few today, though the photography was not cooperating :rolleyes:


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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes 2023 [Re: Moria841]
    #28458503 - 09/04/23 03:06 PM (4 months, 21 days ago)

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Found a few today, though the photography was not cooperating :rolleyes:





Let's go!


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