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First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals
#28395363 - 07/14/23 12:28 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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To preface, I've been building and engineering air quality containments, worked in Laboratories for a few years. I've always admired the mycological universe but wasn't lucky enough to be exposed, nor did the Ring Of Fire allow me to focus on this until this point in my life.
This is my first cultivation and I am seeking advice. I intend to research my Tidal Wave species and clone my optimal fruits after the first flush of 4 unique applications of grain.
Firstly, the NS Grain inoculation went great. Placed against JMF, TW is mutant fast, healthy, and resilient. 16 days to fully grip its claws into the 3lb grain bag. JMF has about 2 square inches of grain at 30 days.
After colonization, CVG was pasteurized and prepared for 4 unique variations of 19qt Mono-Tubs. After 7 days, about 90% colonization, I took my most resilient looking tub and prepared a true casing, and left in fruiting conditions under a Martha Tent containment.
I am working to optimize humidity, evaporation, temperature, gas, airflow, and a few other minor factors.


This is the result of a shot in the dark parameters after 4 days. The casing is being penetrated by what I can only assume is hyphal strands balling into spires, or primordia, as they peak through the casing to find the fresh air.
Honest question for the viewership, are these fruiting bodies forming all over?
Any opinions on signs of excess humidity or FAE?
I'm not a pro, but I would venture to say that FAE was slightly too high, as well as humidity.
I intend to update this thread weekly or semi-weekly until all 4 variations are 1st flushed and cloned. I want to build the ultimate set-and-forget for monster fruit.
Blessed evening
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Exhaustus]
#28395375 - 07/14/23 12:40 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Here are the other 3 variations, without casing.


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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Exhaustus]
#28395526 - 07/14/23 03:33 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Exhaustus said: To preface, I've been building and engineering air quality containments, worked in Laboratories for a few years. I've always admired the mycological universe but wasn't lucky enough to be exposed, nor did the Ring Of Fire allow me to focus on this until this point in my life.
This is my first cultivation and I am seeking advice. I intend to research my Tidal Wave species and clone my optimal fruits after the first flush of 4 unique applications of grain.
Firstly, the NS Grain inoculation went great. Placed against JMF, TW is mutant fast, healthy, and resilient. 16 days to fully grip its claws into the 3lb grain bag. JMF has about 2 square inches of grain at 30 days.
After colonization, CVG was pasteurized and prepared for 4 unique variations of 19qt Mono-Tubs. After 7 days, about 90% colonization, I took my most resilient looking tub and prepared a true casing, and left in fruiting conditions under a Martha Tent containment.
I am working to optimize humidity, evaporation, temperature, gas, airflow, and a few other minor factors.


This is the result of a shot in the dark parameters after 4 days. The casing is being penetrated by what I can only assume is hyphal strands balling into spires, or primordia, as they peak through the casing to find the fresh air.
Honest question for the viewership, are these fruiting bodies forming all over?
Any opinions on signs of excess humidity or FAE?
I'm not a pro, but I would venture to say that FAE was slightly too high, as well as humidity.
I intend to update this thread weekly or semi-weekly until all 4 variations are 1st flushed and cloned. I want to build the ultimate set-and-forget for monster fruit.
Blessed evening
Not even a single "on a scale of 1-10, how does this look?" type response?
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Exhaustus]
#28395534 - 07/14/23 03:41 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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The ultimate set and forgot for monster fruit is a modded/unmodded tub and not a Martha 🤷♂️
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Screwup]
#28395539 - 07/14/23 03:44 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Screenshotted for posterity. It's in a custom system, which won't be changing no matter how hard any hater, hates.
Just curious how the initial growth looks to experienced mycologists.
Setting a reminder to upload a picture of a fatty when its ready to be harvested out of my mechanized beauty. I've seen all the "grown in the grain bag" "neglek tek" videos. They produce junk.
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Exhaustus]
#28395548 - 07/14/23 03:50 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Right but like…you ever looked at photos here of a 15$ plastic tote grow? I’ve grown a 210+G from a shoebox lol.
Those reachers are just mycelium. Nothing knotting up yet. Keeping in the dark is silly and old info. Light at all stages.
If FAE was too high why would they be reaching for air?
Are you using AGAR or what I think I read as MSS-to grains?
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Screwup]
#28395573 - 07/14/23 04:24 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Screenshotted for posterity. It's in a custom system, which won't be changing no matter how hard any hater, hates.
Just curious how the initial growth looks to experienced mycologists.
Setting a reminder to upload a picture of a fatty when its ready to be harvested out of my mechanized beauty. I've seen all the "grown in the grain bag" "neglek tek" videos. They produce junk. Quote:
Screwup said: Right but like…you ever looked at photos here of a 15$ plastic tote grow? I’ve grown a 210+G from a shoebox lol.
Those reachers are just mycelium. Nothing knotting up yet. Keeping in the dark is silly and old info. Light at all stages.
If FAE was too high why would they be reaching for air?
Are you using AGAR or what I think I read as MSS-to grains?
I'm not converting, shill! Science beats lazy. I attach my system, get data, and be care free for up to two weeks. I'm not here to downgrade, convert, or be expected to be the "cheapest possible method". This is just what works for me. I don't care about yield. I care about screwing around until I find out.
I figure you didn't read the same research as I did, I'm just trying to prove you can force fruiting body structure similar to designer plants. My "automatic system" parameters were the shot in the dark. Nothing was actually in the dark, I've looked for specific environmental parameters for so long its not even a joke anymore.
Mycelium under negative pressure reaching up through the coir in spires tends to produce two or three responses that dictate the environmental conditions. Too much moisture and they sag at the base of the coir where the physical support is, like melting glass. They also have a length to width profile that can be watched to adjust FAE. Concave ends = TOO MUCH FAE, its better to begin with a directly vertical, and even profile of hyphal reaching (I bet they all become pins). You can see in one tub that the spires around the turbulent corners have flattened in the direction of average flow, its kinda cool. BUT AGAIN, heck if I know why this tub looks so different in my thousands of photos seen. I was just seeking to find someone who actually understood, and could speak on my growth based on the information provided.
Reluctantly thanking you for confirming that my hyphal formations are of a hyphal nature.
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Exhaustus] 1
#28395579 - 07/14/23 04:28 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Oh fuck you’re a trolls multi aren’t you? Got that feeling from your second post at here lol.
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Screwup]
#28395584 - 07/14/23 04:34 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Screwup said: Oh fuck you’re a trolls multi aren’t you? Got that feeling from your second post at here lol.
Nice stroke
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Exhaustus] 3
#28395597 - 07/14/23 04:46 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Exhaustus said:
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Screwup said: Oh fuck you’re a trolls multi aren’t you? Got that feeling from your second post at here lol.
Nice stroke

Sure sucks we can’t put an automated tub in our room and leave it for two weeks huh guys? This one’s got it all figured out!
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Screwup]
#28395599 - 07/14/23 04:47 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Screwup said:
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Exhaustus said:
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Screwup said: Oh fuck you’re a trolls multi aren’t you? Got that feeling from your second post at here lol.
Nice stroke

Oh, come on, just say it looks good!
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Exhaustus] 1
#28395606 - 07/14/23 04:57 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Here’s my 5$ fully automated tub that I can leave from start to finish. Say something nice about it.

Also looks good LITFA.
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Screwup]
#28395625 - 07/14/23 05:21 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Screwup said: Here’s my 5$ fully automated tub that I can leave from start to finish. Say something nice about it.

Also looks good LITFA.
Cool box
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Exhaustus]
#28395626 - 07/14/23 05:22 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Why do you even come back after your account gets banned honestly lol?
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Screwup]
#28395642 - 07/14/23 05:37 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Screwup said:
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Exhaustus said:
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Screwup said: Oh fuck you’re a trolls multi aren’t you? Got that feeling from your second post at here lol.
Nice stroke

Sure sucks we can’t put an automated tub in our room and leave it for two weeks huh guys? This one’s got it all figured out!

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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Exhaustus] 3
#28395673 - 07/14/23 06:09 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Why are you asking people to rate your tub and all this if you’re already absolutely positive your tub has the best growth ever seen?
Also curious where you obtained this information about mycelium sagging at the base like molten glass or having concave ends in response to air levels.
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: A.k.a]
#28395688 - 07/14/23 06:22 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Why are you asking people to rate your tub and all this if you’re already absolutely positive your tub has the best growth ever seen?
Also curious where you obtained this information about mycelium sagging at the base like molten glass or having concave ends in response to air levels.
I think its good, what's wrong with asking others if they think the same? Why not seek all of the combined experience of a community to help me see why it produced these growth patterns? Why not see if anyone has an opinion on how to adjust my FAE or humidity based on visuals.
There was some older scanned research from Paul and Terrence. They spoke about inducing evaporation and went into detail on the micro climate theories. Another few books and what-not spoke on the mechanisms that drive the accumulation of the mushroom body structure. Hyphal formations are very peculiar, think of why the cordyceps forces its prey to go to a specific height over ground. Similar to how fog moves across thermal gradients in the real world. If you induce the most optimal conditions of gases, humidity, nutrient, spectral triggering, and substrate structuring you can force the mycelium into gluttony. I'm not OCD and not going to stand there pumping gaseous mixtures in and out of the tubs, nor am I going to physically induce evaporation for transpirative stress growth. I think an even canopy can be achieved aside from genetics, and the visual aesthetic of that will make me happy. I didn't come here to adjust my method. It's an abomination, and it's mine.
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Exhaustus] 1
#28395756 - 07/14/23 07:36 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Exhaustus said:
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A.k.a said: Why are you asking people to rate your tub and all this if you’re already absolutely positive your tub has the best growth ever seen?
Also curious where you obtained this information about mycelium sagging at the base like molten glass or having concave ends in response to air levels.
I think its good, what's wrong with asking others if they think the same?
Narcissistic validation?
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: MicroMycelium] 5
#28395779 - 07/14/23 08:02 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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This thread has been a real eye-opener. Thank you, OP. Why have I been wasting my time here, coming through posts from growers with decades of experience that grow full, even flushes constantly, to the point where they are so bored they have to fuck around with unothodox stuff just to stay hyped, when I have you, the guy that read some articles and books and has grown zero mushrooms, to tell me how to do it, while at the same time being able to read your self-important prose that's written in such a style so as to convey the idea that everyone is dumber than you, and could not possibly understand the things that you do? I'm sure I missed some punctuation above. Hope it gives you fits.
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Exhaustus] 3
#28395783 - 07/14/23 08:05 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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All your tubs are bacterial which is causing the growth you’re seeing. Cordyceps force their hosts to elevated positions for better spore dispersal.
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Mycolorado] 2
#28395818 - 07/14/23 08:47 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Mycolorado said: All your tubs are bacterial which is causing the growth you’re seeing. Cordyceps force their hosts to elevated positions for better spore dispersal.
Sorry to disappoint, but the tubs showcased above are not what I consider "flex material".
Overall I'd give them a solid 4 maybe a 5..
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Tormato]
#28395929 - 07/15/23 01:42 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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This isn't the first time someone's come here claiming to be an expert in labs/biology/related science field and made a fool of themselves.
I'd expect if Exhaustus was familiar enough, they'd know that Paul and Terrence are not reliable sources of cultivating info even today, especially their "older scanned research".
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Y’all I’m pretty sure it’s a trolls multi account. Or a copy cat troll cause he really posting like that one guy that got banned recently trying to make a negative air drop pressure co2 pinpointed tub or whatever the fuck. Pretty sure that avatars even been reused.
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: MicroMycelium]
#28396041 - 07/15/23 06:39 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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MicroMycelium said:
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Exhaustus said:
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A.k.a said: Why are you asking people to rate your tub and all this if you’re already absolutely positive your tub has the best growth ever seen?
Also curious where you obtained this information about mycelium sagging at the base like molten glass or having concave ends in response to air levels.
I think its good, what's wrong with asking others if they think the same?
Narcissistic validation?

You're right, I'm wrong. I shouldn't exclusively ask for:
"Honest question for the viewership, are these fruiting bodies forming all over?
Any opinions on signs of excess humidity or FAE?"
I shouldn't use this resource to genuinely ask "growers with decades of experience" their thoughts on my growth pattern (that I still haven't seen).
Somehow I am also being accused of someone I'm not in multiple ways.
So, anyways, I continued to do what I have been. Busting out the Olympus and Oil Immersion to view my tissue samples. It turns out, that some people think my tubs (that look just like every other photo) are bacterial contamination. Good thing 400-4000x magnification is great to view hyphal fragments. I even poured some Agar plates to stand my ground. We will see if any growth takes off from any of the 7 different tissues HA's.
Surely this community wouldn't also argue with Bergey's Manual? I see how they act though, even from the top down. Can't wait to see what happens, isn't all of this fun?
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Exhaustus]
#28396043 - 07/15/23 06:42 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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MethodicalMystical said: This isn't the first time someone's come here claiming to be an expert in labs/biology/related science field and made a fool of themselves.
I'd expect if Exhaustus was familiar enough, they'd know that Paul and Terrence are not reliable sources of cultivating info even today, especially their "older scanned research".
Entropic concepts don't change because you gave them a name. Gases still obey their laws. I don't need a lot of this fancy equipment, but I'm still going to use all of it for data to prove whether they were onto something or not. I can measure 9 gases in real time, and can still use a GCMS to do a full run down. The data is coming.
Please do remember that I said:
"I'm not a pro, but I would venture to say that FAE was slightly too high, as well as humidity."
I didn't make any expert claims. I'm not sure how I'm a fool either. Do stay tuned for the data though. It will have nice pretty colors for you.
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Exhaustus]
#28396050 - 07/15/23 06:57 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Two trusted cultivators' feedback so far (you don't get that tag by being all talk, no action.)
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Mycolorado said: All your tubs are bacterial which is causing the growth you’re seeing. Cordyceps force their hosts to elevated positions for better spore dispersal.
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Tormato said:
Sorry to disappoint, but the tubs showcased above are not what I consider "flex material".
Overall I'd give them a solid 4 maybe a 5..
Or maybe you're choosing not to see? And you put "growers with decades of experience" in quotes why? Because you don't believe they exist here? Again, choosing not to see. You'd rather believe your own bluster, backed up by zero experience.
So, your tubs are showing average growth. Your hyphal towers will fall soon, and your average growth will continue. You will get some mushrooms out of this, but it will be nothing spectacular, and it certainly won't justify the hyper attention you're giving to the minutiae, with regard to equipment and growth patterns.
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Exhaustus
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Hysteria]
#28396054 - 07/15/23 07:09 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Hysteria said: Two trusted cultivators' feedback so far (you don't get that tag by being all talk, no action.)
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Mycolorado said: All your tubs are bacterial which is causing the growth you’re seeing. Cordyceps force their hosts to elevated positions for better spore dispersal.
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Tormato said:
It's in quotes because I was berated for "flexing" and "knowing it all" and that I was "eye opening" (sarcasm/trolling). They're imposing that I know nothing (I stated that) and that my tubs are bad and evil, yet are fine and will grow. It's quite ambiguous and back and forth.
Sorry to disappoint, but the tubs showcased above are not what I consider "flex material".
Overall I'd give them a solid 4 maybe a 5..
Or maybe you're choosing not to see? And you put "growers with decades of experience" in quotes why? Because you don't believe they exist here? Again, choosing not to see. You'd rather believe your own bluster, backed up by zero experience.
So, your tubs are showing average growth. Your hyphal towers will fall soon, and your average growth will continue. You will get some mushrooms out of this, but it will be nothing spectacular, and it certainly won't justify the hyper attention you're giving to the minutiae, with regards to equipment and growth patterns.
More projections of who I am. YAY! (this guy obviously knows me better than I do) It was in quotes because someone chose to verbally separate the experienced cultivators from me. Nice attempt to interpret. I came to seek their advice, and got angry trolls who attack my character and get wishwashy on everything else. The data is coming, the quote-call-outs are coming.
I am allowed to do whatever I would like to cultivate, share, and ask questions. HOWEVER, I am not a dog that can be swatted and be expected not to bare some teeth. If you don't like something I am doing, stay out of it. If you don't have anything constructive it would be wise to stay out of it. We all eat our words. Mine will have pretty colors.
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Exhaustus] 1
#28396058 - 07/15/23 07:15 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah the only one who accused you of being a multi troll was me and that’s cause you act and talk like the guy. Calm down with the martyrdom bro Lmao
Lol like look at your sig you’re such a troll dude.
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Edited by Screwup (07/15/23 07:16 AM)
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Exhaustus] 2
#28396077 - 07/15/23 07:39 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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You forgot one.
Exhaustus - NT - Posts under the pretense of wanting feedback, but instead ignores any and all, and objectively shows he came here to intellectually masturbate. Displays zero humility and 100% arrogance.
I'm really looking forward to pics of your grows and all your data with "pretty colors." Oh, can you please include pareto analysis and pivot tables? Cuz I don't see enough of that shit during the week already. So exciting.
Hey, you're not the first person to come here and act like this, just the latest. Spoiler alert: none of them ever come back with mind-blowing grow pics.
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Exhaustus
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Hysteria]
#28396082 - 07/15/23 07:48 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Hysteria said: You forgot one.
Exhaustus - NT - Posts under the pretense of wanting feedback, but instead ignores any and all, and objectively shows he came here to intellectually masturbate. Displays zero humility and 100% arrogance.
I'm really looking forward to pics of your grows and all your data with "pretty colors." Oh, can you please include pareto analysis and pivot tables? Cuz I don't see enough of that shit during the week already. So exciting.
Hey, you're not the first person to come here and act like this, just the latest. Spoiler alert: none of them ever come back with mind-blowing grow pics.
Do you feel better? The internet is a great place to take out your stress. Too bad real life isn't the same.
-------------------- Rhizomorphically hunting Tomentose Sectors - x3zR
Mycofluidics
Turgor is Awesome - https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agricultural-and-biological-sciences/turgor
Shoe Boxes R Us! - Or else!
To attain the paradise all sentient creatures are open to, I train day and night, among mountains and fields!
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Exhaustus]
#28396086 - 07/15/23 07:52 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I do feel better, thanks I got a full dehydrator of mushrooms that I need to empty in 2 hours, then vac seal in jars, then reload the dehydrator with this mornings' harvest. That should help the real life stress bit.
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Exhaustus
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Hysteria]
#28396088 - 07/15/23 07:56 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Hysteria said: I do feel better, thanks I got a full dehydrator of mushrooms that I need to empty in 2 hours, then vac seal in jars, then reload the dehydrator with this mornings' harvest. That should help the real life stress bit.
Nice,
Don't they smell unique?
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Mycofluidics
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Shoe Boxes R Us! - Or else!
To attain the paradise all sentient creatures are open to, I train day and night, among mountains and fields!
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Exhaustus]
#28396091 - 07/15/23 08:00 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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My sense of smell isn't too keen. They just smell like mushrooms to me. It is a pleasant earthy smell, though. I'll tell you what, though. If you have a good sense of smell and you ever grow Penis Envy, the first time you dehydrate them you are in for a treat, and not in a good way.
Edited by Hysteria (07/15/23 08:02 AM)
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Exhaustus
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Hysteria] 1
#28396093 - 07/15/23 08:02 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Hysteria said: My sense of smell isn't too keen. They just smell like mushrooms to me. I'll tell you what, though. If you have a good sense of smell and you ever grow Penis Envy, the first time you dehydrate them you are in for a treat, and not in a good way.
Oh brother!
That foot cheese smell they have? good lord
-------------------- Rhizomorphically hunting Tomentose Sectors - x3zR
Mycofluidics
Turgor is Awesome - https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agricultural-and-biological-sciences/turgor
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Exhaustus] 1
#28396103 - 07/15/23 08:08 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Exhaustus]
#28396213 - 07/15/23 09:31 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Exhaustus said:
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Hysteria said: Two trusted cultivators' feedback so far (you don't get that tag by being all talk, no action.)
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Mycolorado said: All your tubs are bacterial which is causing the growth you’re seeing. Cordyceps force their hosts to elevated positions for better spore dispersal.
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Tormato said:
It's in quotes because I was berated for "flexing" and "knowing it all" and that I was "eye opening" (sarcasm/trolling). They're imposing that I know nothing (I stated that) and that my tubs are bad and evil, yet are fine and will grow. It's quite ambiguous and back and forth.
Sorry to disappoint, but the tubs showcased above are not what I consider "flex material".
Overall I'd give them a solid 4 maybe a 5..
Or maybe you're choosing not to see? And you put "growers with decades of experience" in quotes why? Because you don't believe they exist here? Again, choosing not to see. You'd rather believe your own bluster, backed up by zero experience.
So, your tubs are showing average growth. Your hyphal towers will fall soon, and your average growth will continue. You will get some mushrooms out of this, but it will be nothing spectacular, and it certainly won't justify the hyper attention you're giving to the minutiae, with regards to equipment and growth patterns.
More projections of who I am. YAY! (this guy obviously knows me better than I do) It was in quotes because someone chose to verbally separate the experienced cultivators from me. Nice attempt to interpret. I came to seek their advice, and got angry trolls who attack my character and get wishwashy on everything else. The data is coming, the quote-call-outs are coming.
I am allowed to do whatever I would like to cultivate, share, and ask questions. HOWEVER, I am not a dog that can be swatted and be expected not to bare some teeth. If you don't like something I am doing, stay out of it. If you don't have anything constructive it would be wise to stay out of it. We all eat our words. Mine will have pretty colors.
You can either take the advice or leave the advice.
You did come for advice, and/or opinions yes?
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Re: First "Wave" :) - Seeking Advice based on visuals [Re: Exhaustus] 1
#28396215 - 07/15/23 09:31 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: Locking this topic while I investigate trolling.
Myself or another cult mod may reopen after 24hrs.
Reopening as investigations into the trolling has been completed.
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