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Re: Neo-Abrahamic Religion now the fastest growing faith in US [Re: Asante]
#28435111 - 08/15/23 03:08 PM (5 months, 10 days ago) |
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Asante said: so you're saying..
Neo Abrahamic Religion.. God not invited Abraham not invited fuk rednecks & nazis
Yes, but the historical Nazis are quite unimportant. It's more important to be sure that you are dehumanizing anyone who disagrees with you by just labeling them as Nazis.
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Re: Neo-Abrahamic Religion now the fastest growing faith in US [Re: redgreenvines]
#28435112 - 08/15/23 03:10 PM (5 months, 10 days ago) |
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redgreenvines said: many animals exhibit fundamental moral behavior. kindness, consideration, tenderness, sharing food, etc. no religion no verbal logic. religion is kind of a parasite on humanity which already has a moral compass and does not need additional wrappings and trappings.
What if the moral compasses between folks are in conflict? Do we vote?
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Re: Neo-Abrahamic Religion now the fastest growing faith in US [Re: Moses_Davidson]
#28435167 - 08/15/23 04:14 PM (5 months, 10 days ago) |
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redgreenvines said: many animals exhibit fundamental moral behavior. kindness, consideration, tenderness, sharing food, etc. no religion no verbal logic. religion is kind of a parasite on humanity which already has a moral compass and does not need additional wrappings and trappings.
What if the moral compasses between folks are in conflict? Do we vote?
I have not heard of successful 3rd party religious intermediation between oppositional religious groups (i.e. religious moral compasses present alternative north's).
It would be best to praise our common roots, but since we extinctified our forefathers (the unfondly missed missing link) we can venerate monkeys instead, to help realign our conflicted moral compasses.
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Re: Neo-Abrahamic Religion now the fastest growing faith in US [Re: redgreenvines]
#28438112 - 08/18/23 11:35 AM (5 months, 8 days ago) |
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redgreenvines said:
...we can venerate monkeys instead, to help realign our conflicted moral compasses.
LOL! 
But that certainly gives me some great new role models with ideas for how to settle disagreements
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Re: Neo-Abrahamic Religion now the fastest growing faith in US [Re: Moses_Davidson]
#28438185 - 08/18/23 12:51 PM (5 months, 8 days ago) |
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Foreforefatherism Aka monkey business
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Re: Neo-Abrahamic Religion now the fastest growing faith in US [Re: Moses_Davidson]
#28440573 - 08/20/23 12:21 PM (5 months, 6 days ago) |
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Religion has consistently been inconsistent.
But don't despair, our new enlightened Neo-Abrahamic faith has greatly improved the gender teachings of Christ by rightly pointing out that genetic & hormonal differences are physically and socially immaterial, and that the so-called evolutionary phenomena of social dominance hierarchies present in most animals is actually a modern construct designed to oppress women.
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Re: Neo-Abrahamic Religion now the fastest growing faith in US [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
#28445782 - 08/24/23 09:43 PM (5 months, 1 day ago) |
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LOL
But you know... as much as I like to poke fun at the illogical societal norms that are ultimately just part of a larger system of manufactured consent with the modern banking system at the very top of the pile... I'm somewhat of a hypocrite because my own income comes from this system.
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Re: Neo-Abrahamic Religion now the fastest growing faith in US [Re: Moses_Davidson]
#28445892 - 08/24/23 10:47 PM (5 months, 1 day ago) |
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LOL
But you know... as much as I like to poke fun at the illogical societal norms that are ultimately just part of a larger system of manufactured consent with the modern banking system at the very top of the pile... I'm somewhat of a hypocrite because my own income comes from this system.
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Re: Neo-Abrahamic Religion now the fastest growing faith in US [Re: sudly]
#28446034 - 08/25/23 03:50 AM (5 months, 1 day ago) |
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It's a bit like the old body is in decline, what will replace it (AI) has no regard for humanity as such, but it may serve human life in a commensual way.
In the mean time, I see a flury of people looting what they can take, as if the storefronts were all bashed in, and the SUV's are filling up with unneeded merch.
The sky is literally falling, and the forests are burning.
Apocalypse Now.
grin & dig in
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Re: Neo-Abrahamic Religion now the fastest growing faith in US [Re: redgreenvines]
#28446046 - 08/25/23 04:18 AM (5 months, 1 day ago) |
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grin
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Re: Neo-Abrahamic Religion now the fastest growing faith in US [Re: Pinkerton]
#28456695 - 09/03/23 06:46 AM (4 months, 23 days ago) |
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I guess for me, then the action question is to learn what one can do from within the modern banking system. It can become somewhat of an apocalypse... at least if you consider someone who works for $15,000 per year is supposed to carry $6 million worth of debt, which is roughly the ratio of every tax-paying American worker to their respective portion of the national debt plus "unfunded liabilities." The only way to recover from that is a "market correction" that dwarfs the great depression.
But...
I will design and implement a new blockchain monetary system for all central banks. My new currency design is asset-backed for stability, and can still allow for the expansion and contraction of the money supply as it will tie into the current system of debt-based fiat. I will bifurcate the overnight fed interest rate, so that the powers of gas and break can be applied to two different areas of the economy to "steer" growth in education, infrastructure, and other precursors of prosperity. I'll test it first in an African nation to demonstrate that I can stop inflation and end cybertheft. From there I will introduce it to around 50 nations. That should be a good start.
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Re: Neo-Abrahamic Religion now the fastest growing faith in US [Re: Moses_Davidson]
#28456699 - 09/03/23 06:53 AM (4 months, 23 days ago) |
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I can see it now!
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Re: Neo-Abrahamic Religion now the fastest growing faith in US [Re: sudly]
#28456708 - 09/03/23 07:08 AM (4 months, 23 days ago) |
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Re: Neo-Abrahamic Religion now the fastest growing faith in US [Re: Moses_Davidson]
#28461262 - 09/07/23 03:49 AM (4 months, 19 days ago) |
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Re: Neo-Abrahamic Religion now the fastest growing faith in US [Re: Asante]
#28461268 - 09/07/23 03:57 AM (4 months, 19 days ago) |
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We are kin on the Africa-ordeal, Asante!
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Re: Neo-Abrahamic Religion now the fastest growing faith in US [Re: Pinkerton]
#28461666 - 09/07/23 04:13 PM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Lets start putting out the house thats on fire, and bandage the leg that is broken.
We're all a drop of the same blood.
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Re: Neo-Abrahamic Religion now the fastest growing faith in US [Re: Asante]
#28461784 - 09/07/23 06:38 PM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Yes, but the historical Nazis are quite unimportant. It's more important to be sure that you are dehumanizing anyone who disagrees with you by just labeling them as Nazis.
As anyone in the forum will attest Nazis matter a great deal to me.
Sorry, that was intended to be read as satire.
If you think about it, "enlightened" people (who still believe in the historical Nazi party platform of socialism, and who want to censor the conservatives and religious groups again as well) labeling conservatives (and even Jews) as Nazis is so ironic that it deserves the Nobel Prize of Propaganda.
I'm not saying socialists are bad-- I have a lot of socialist leanings (and take RGV,... please!). But I do condemn the current fad of dehumanizing people with a different view by silencing and labeling them.
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Re: Neo-Abrahamic Religion now the fastest growing faith in US [Re: Moses_Davidson]
#28461853 - 09/07/23 07:40 PM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Ironic you use the label of socialist then.
Any examples of individuals or policies espoused by the 'socialist'? Any goals, agendas etc.
As in, can you please define what you mean by socialist.
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Re: Neo-Abrahamic Religion now the fastest growing faith in US [Re: sudly]
#28461938 - 09/07/23 09:01 PM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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I am not completely non-political.
I was a secretary for a metropolitan business ratepayers association (BIA) for 3 years and then the president of that same organization for 3 years, liaising with local government.
but I am not a political agent. nor am I a political lacky. there were complicated private reasons for me to engage in this activity, but I am glad I did it. I learned a lot. I think people should be civically involved.
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Re: Neo-Abrahamic Religion now the fastest growing faith in US [Re: sudly] 1
#28463278 - 09/09/23 11:11 AM (4 months, 17 days ago) |
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sudly said: Ironic you use the label of socialist then.
Any examples of individuals or policies espoused by the 'socialist'? Any goals, agendas etc.
As in, can you please define what you mean by socialist.
By "socialist leanings," I mean:
a. I lived in what was effectively a small commune of about 20 people for a few years when I was younger. Expenses were shared and everyone worked.
b. I've been a member of other shared expense groups because expense sharing is highly efficient when strengthened by free-market competition.
c. I support programs to help homeless people of color to become home owners.
d. I am politically active and am presently helping a large multinational corporation for an agenda to be promoted in 50+ nations that will increase jobs, income, healthcare and education for the poor by using natural supply and demand mechanisms and a novel tax structure that prospers everyone.
When many poor gang up the few to force socialism by the heavy hand-- this is not socialism. This is just thuggery.
True socialism must involve the hearts and wills of all involved, or the laws of supply and demand will eventually see it turn into the corrupt oligarchies that are entire systems of poverty and de-incentivization.
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