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Banisteriopsis Caapi
    #2838682 - 06/29/04 05:46 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I was just interested if any got experience with this MAOI

Normally i would take Syrian rue with Mimosa Hostilis but Syrian rue really puts me off so last time i tried B Caapi.

Now the website said that it was RED vine, there also white and yellow. It was also the whole of vine powdered, not just the bark, from what i know MAOI is in the bark.

Now i soaked 30 grams beforehand and cooked it 3 times, never actually boiling it but lightly simmering. I filtered the brew through a tshirt and boiled down to a manageable quantity.

I drunk the brew on empty stomach and this is where i think i gone wrong, i waited for no more than 15 minutes and drunk Mimosa Hostilis brew.

Nothing happened, MAOI did not kick in. Now where did i go wrong here folks? Could it be possible that t shirt filtered out MAOI or i didnt wait long enough?


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Re: Banisteriopsis Caapi [Re: cleaner]
    #2838818 - 06/29/04 08:13 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Caapi can have a lot better affects than syran rue. The variations in color are mainly of concern to the natives who believe they possess different magical and healing powers. I usually use around 60-100 grams caapi by its self to become possessed by the jaguar spirit.

My question is this, did you get Whole Caapi or Powdered / Shredded Caapi? ALso, i'm going to move your post to the ethnogarden.


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Re: Banisteriopsis Caapi [Re: Aneglakya]
    #2838826 - 06/29/04 08:18 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

"Nothing happened, MAOI did not kick in. Now where did i go wrong here folks? Could it be possible that t shirt filtered out MAOI or i didnt wait long enough? "

This sounds highly unlikely. Cooking it three times should have pulled a lot out of it. Maybe try using a pressure cooker ala MJshroomer tek next time.


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Re: Banisteriopsis Caapi [Re: cleaner]
    #2839919 - 06/29/04 03:07 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

15 minutes is rather little for full MAOI, 45-1hr would be ok...
but anyways, perhaps you're using too little MHRB (or this one is a bit weak, try a bit more).
also, the use of a pressure cooker can save you of hours in front of the boiling pans...


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Re: Banisteriopsis Caapi [Re: felixhigh]
    #2842988 - 06/30/04 11:03 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

No my MHRB is very potent and B.Caapi was powdered


"natives who believe they possess different magical and healing powers."

Sirian Rue is a poison, it was used as a poison in the Middle East long ago. By using this poison with your brew you methaphorically poisoning your trip.

Anyway, i will try more than 30 grams next time, maybe 70g or so. And will wait for 1 hour before drinking MHRB


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Re: Banisteriopsis Caapi [Re: cleaner]
    #2842993 - 06/30/04 11:04 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Rue is poison? Peganum harmala is commonly used as a spice. Are you thinking of another Rue as there are many different types? Why would you classify it as a poison and what is your source of information? Anything can be considered a poison, its all dose relative.


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Re: Banisteriopsis Caapi [Re: Aneglakya]
    #2843040 - 06/30/04 11:31 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

IIRC, there are rues which cause photosensitisation, and the saps can cause soreness/blistering. I didn't know they could be easily fatal though, so I wouldn't have classed them as poisons, but perhaps I am wrong...


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Re: Banisteriopsis Caapi [Re: cleaner]
    #2844175 - 06/30/04 05:55 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

oh, you've used shredded caapi then?
well, it's known that the best is to buy it whole because shredding causes oxydation of the MAOI compunds.
perhaps you could try raising the caapi ammount.
and how do you know your MHRB is strong? did you analyse it chemically?


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