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Re: federal judge pens an injunction against the biden administration. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28387775 - 07/06/23 10:19 PM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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Let’s take a minute to remember how the US government never asked Twitter to censor the laptop story. Twitters own lawyers said as much.
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Re: federal judge pens an injunction against the biden administration. [Re: christopera]
#28387792 - 07/06/23 10:51 PM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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Jim Baker, the former FBI attorney who was fired from Twitter, said “I am aware of no unlawful collusion with, or direction from, any government agency.
Government asking Twitter to censor content may not have have been unlawful, nor was it 'direction', but it was still perceived as a serious request.
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Re: federal judge pens an injunction against the biden administration. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28387802 - 07/06/23 11:18 PM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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Sure, but of course the most recent court ruling said;
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The new materials do not plausibly suggest that Twitter suspended any of Plaintiffs’ accounts pursuant to any state-created right or rule of conduct. As this Court held, Lugar’s first prong requires a “clear,” government-imposed rule. Dkt. 165 at 6. But, as with Plaintiffs’ Amended Complaint, the new materials contain only a “grab-bag” of communications about varied topics, none establishing a state-imposed rule responsible for Plaintiffs’ challenged content-moderation decisions. The new materials cover topics ranging, for example, from Hunter Biden’s laptop,
https://www.techdirt.com/2023/06/05/twitter-admits-in-court-filing-elon-musk-is-simply-wrong-about-government-interference-at-twitter/
Do you see the part where it says Twitter didn't do it because of a state created rule? Do you see it? Do you see the part where it applies to the laptop story? This happened in June of this year.
Get over it.
Here's a short quote from the story for those that don't feel like reading it;
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To date, not a single document revealed has shown what people now falsely believe: that the US government and Twitter were working together to “censor” people based on their political viewpoints. Literally none of that has been shown at all.
For those that continue down this path, here is a song for you.
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Re: federal judge pens an injunction against the biden administration. [Re: Ice9]
#28387870 - 07/07/23 02:46 AM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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Sugabearcrisp said: right to free speech, that is an individual civil liberty.
This is completely wrong
I thought it was insane too.
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Re: federal judge pens an injunction against the biden administration. [Re: christopera]
#28387880 - 07/07/23 03:17 AM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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christopera said: Sure, but of course the most recent court ruling said;
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The new materials do not plausibly suggest that Twitter suspended any of Plaintiffs’ accounts pursuant to any state-created right or rule of conduct. As this Court held, Lugar’s first prong requires a “clear,” government-imposed rule.
Do you see the part where it says Twitter didn't do it because of a state created rule? Do you see it? Do you see the part where it applies to the laptop story? This happened in June of this year.
Get over it.
Yes, I get that. The government didn't create a rule of conduct forcing Twitter to censor information (that would have been illegal). But they asked Twitter to censor things, and Twitter complied.
And that's what I just said.
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Re: federal judge pens an injunction against the biden administration. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28387882 - 07/07/23 03:20 AM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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I have a question here. Is anyone stupid enough to think any treatment of the laptop story would have resulted in a different electoral college outcome? Nobody liked Biden to begin with. Who cares how much of a scumbag his son might be? Because if you don't care about Biden, who cares about his defective son?
The whole point of the election was to ignore every other possible issue and keep Trump out of the White House no matter what. Because a large majority decided that was the paramount issue.
Two other things, one related, one not.
The laptop was never going to be admitted into evidence, and was just a right wing talking point; complete Pavlov's Dog salivation but legally irrelevant.
Now, the cocaine in the White House. Another great story if you're especially stupid. Joe and Hunter were snorting rails together. Trump's all over it. Complete nonsense on both the evidence and plausibility level.
Illegal or not I wish they gave Joe Biden an occasional line before public statements.
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Re: federal judge pens an injunction against the biden administration. [Re: Brian Jones]
#28387885 - 07/07/23 03:25 AM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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Brian Jones said: I have a question here. Is anyone stupid enough to think any treatment of the laptop story would have resulted in a different electoral college outcome? Nobody liked Biden to begin with. Who cares how much of a scumbag his son might be? Because if you don't care about Biden, who cares about his defective son?
I agree that no one cares about Hunter. The issue that's unfolding from the emails is that Joe appears to have taken bribes from Ukraine.
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Re: federal judge pens an injunction against the biden administration. [Re: Ice9]
#28387917 - 07/07/23 04:18 AM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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Sugabearcrisp said: Nah I am right and you both know it.
Just to point out that I have not been arguing you were wrong with regards to the government and free speech etc. I have not expressed a position on that at all.
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Re: federal judge pens an injunction against the biden administration. [Re: christopera] 1
#28387922 - 07/07/23 04:23 AM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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christopera said: Let’s take a minute to remember how the US government never asked Twitter to censor the laptop story. Twitters own lawyers said as much.
The twitter files showed this to be untrue. The doj and wh had a self destructing communication channel.
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According to Taibbi's thread, the decision to block the article was made with Vijaya Gadde, former head of legal, public policy & trust and safety at Twitter, playing a key role.
The decision was said to have been based on what several of Taibbi's sources called a "general warning from federal law enforcement" about the possibility of the Post article stemming from foreign interference. The story was originally dismissed by several Democrats in 2020 as a "Russian disinformation operation," but as Newsweek previously reported, there has so far been no evidence to support these claims.
Taibbi's thread also showed screenshots of Biden's campaign team requesting that the company "review" specific tweets in 2020. The report says that such requests from outside sources, whether celebrities or political organizations, became "routine" as Twitter attempted to combat issues like misinformation on its site.
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Re: federal judge pens an injunction against the biden administration. [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
#28387932 - 07/07/23 04:35 AM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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do we have to go through this a thousand times? The biden campaign team is not the government. ffs.
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#28387937 - 07/07/23 04:39 AM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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do we have to go through this a thousand times? The biden campaign team is not the government. ffs.
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An FBI official tied to Facebook’s decision to suppress news stories about Hunter Biden’s laptop hard drive just before the 2020 presidential election is still giving briefings about foreign influence threats to social media companies.
Facebook and Twitter both restricted access to the New York Post’s Hunter Biden laptop stories just weeks ahead of the 2020 election after receiving Russia-related briefings from the bureau.
Laura Dehmlow, the section chief for the FBI’s Foreign Influence Task Force, was named earlier this month by Republican attorneys general from Missouri and Louisiana as having been involved in the briefing of Facebook ahead of its decision to tamp down on the Hunter Biden laptop story, and newly revealed documents show the FBI official is still involved in briefing private companies — including Twitter — on foreign influence challenges.
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Re: federal judge pens an injunction against the biden administration. [Re: Sugabearcrisp] 1
#28387941 - 07/07/23 04:45 AM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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Lynch and christopera you are both operating on old info or clinging to semantic differences. The twitter files + the comer report have both shown a coordinated effort to suppress the laptop story.
Really sad watching people trying to stick their heads in the sand now that the truth is there.
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Re: federal judge pens an injunction against the biden administration. [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
#28387943 - 07/07/23 04:49 AM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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Sugabearcrisp said: Lynch and christopera you are both operating on old info or clinging to semantic differences. The twitter files + the comer report have both shown a coordinated effort to suppress the laptop story.
Really sad watching people trying to stick their heads in the sand now that the truth is there.
so whats the evidence that is on the laptop.
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Re: federal judge pens an injunction against the biden administration. [Re: rxb]
#28387945 - 07/07/23 04:51 AM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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Sugabearcrisp said: Lynch and christopera you are both operating on old info or clinging to semantic differences. The twitter files + the comer report have both shown a coordinated effort to suppress the laptop story.
Really sad watching people trying to stick their heads in the sand now that the truth is there.
so whats the evidence that is on the laptop.
I am not here to do your research for you.
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Re: federal judge pens an injunction against the biden administration. [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
#28387951 - 07/07/23 04:59 AM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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rxb said:
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Sugabearcrisp said: Lynch and christopera you are both operating on old info or clinging to semantic differences. The twitter files + the comer report have both shown a coordinated effort to suppress the laptop story.
Really sad watching people trying to stick their heads in the sand now that the truth is there.
so whats the evidence that is on the laptop.
I am not here to do your research for you.
you dont need to... nothing on the laptop was evidence. it had all been copied data... none of it could be linked to hunter to begin with... and after 2 not one but 2 congressional committees looked into it... nothing was found to be illegal. none of it could be proven to be real...and they proved some of it was staged.
so what evidence was on the laptop.
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Re: federal judge pens an injunction against the biden administration. [Re: rxb]
#28387955 - 07/07/23 05:05 AM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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im not even saying there WASNT evidence at one time.
just that... by the time it was given to authorities it had so much corruption as to no longer be evidence.
so if there WAS ever evidence it isnt evidence now because we dont have a clue what was planted and what wasnt. some 6 folders added after the initial data was sent to the post..etc etc...
just really horrible staging of crimes. and even so... no criminal activity was actually found to exist on the laptop...soooo
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Re: federal judge pens an injunction against the biden administration. [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
#28387959 - 07/07/23 05:11 AM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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Sugabearcrisp said: An FBI official[...] is still giving briefings about foreign influence threats to social media companies.
In your opinion, should our intelligence services not be concerned about other nation's propaganda campaigns?
The real question is, it's 4am here, why are you guys up this late chatting here??
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#28387962 - 07/07/23 05:15 AM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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So we've gone from the laptop isn't real to the laptop is real but the evidence on their was staged or tampered with and therefore should be ignored?

Again your ever changing narrative is a sign that you are grasping at straws.
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#28387964 - 07/07/23 05:19 AM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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Sugabearcrisp said: An FBI official[...] is still giving briefings about foreign influence threats to social media companies.
In your opinion, should our intelligence services not be concerned about other nation's propaganda campaigns?
The real question is, it's 4am here, why are you guys up this late chatting here??
1. Yes they should be, but the FBI and intelligence knew it was real by verifying against hunter's icloud account in 2019. So they were suppessing the truth. Further we have the former inteligence and current inteligence committe members lying about having evidence that it was russian, which is propaganda.
2. It is 7am here
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Re: federal judge pens an injunction against the biden administration. [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
#28387977 - 07/07/23 05:29 AM (6 months, 18 days ago) |
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To me, the FBI thinking this story might be propaganda doesn't seem unreasonable, and a social media company holding the story back for a day doesn't seem unreasonable or damaging.
Its unsurprising that hunter owned a laptop at some point, but chain of custody is important if you want to submit evidence in an actual court.
Also, thanks for providing quotes to support your point, but its preferable that you attribute a source so that we can more easily scoff and dismiss them.
Also also, damn east coasters.
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