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Re: Supreme Court rules to strike down Affirmative Action [Re: Sugabearcrisp] 1
#28384000 - 07/03/23 05:28 PM (6 months, 22 days ago) |
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human nature be damned.
there is a way to get both by robbing a few rich persons of their spoils.
and i support that notion.
its what we should do. we should remove engineering contracts from non-educational systems. classifications as they are needed to graduate students and faculty... and support progress over industry.
if we are going to pick winners and losers (and lets be real someone is getting picked) at least pick the choice that will serve the greater good and advancement of all.
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Re: Supreme Court rules to strike down Affirmative Action [Re: rxb]
#28384023 - 07/03/23 05:42 PM (6 months, 22 days ago) |
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Yes, Quote:
rxb said: human nature be damned.
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Re: Supreme Court rules to strike down Affirmative Action [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
#28384422 - 07/04/23 04:52 AM (6 months, 21 days ago) |
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And the lawsuits are starting already
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/03/us/harvard-college-legacy-admissions-lawsuit/index.html
Basically minority groups have sued harvard over legacy admissions practices.
I think this is great, the legacy admission process is cronism and trades on power. Obviously I am also going to mention Maisey Biden who is a poster child for the issue.
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free beacon article said..
"I applied early decision to Penn today!!" Maisy Biden texted Hunter Biden on October 31.
Just two days later, Maisy asked her father for an update on her application. In the coming months, Hunter and Joe Biden would mount a full-court press on university administrators to get Maisy's application over the finish line. The Bidens took their case directly to the top: University of Pennsylvania president Amy Gutmann.
On December 13, 2018, the elder Biden texted Hunter that he was "going to try to see [University of Pennsylvania] Pres GUTMANN tomorrow." Two days later, Joe Biden told Hunter Biden that he "had a great talk with Guttman [sic]."
"Maisy still in the game for regular acceptance. But must do well in class this period. It's real," Joe Biden wrote on December 15. "We should talk about tutors etc starting tomorrow."
Maisey Biden went on to graduate upenn this year and Amy Gutman was appointed Ambassador to Germany.
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"There's a river of power that flows through this country," Biden said in 1988, according to a book by journalist Richard Ben Cramer. "Some people, a few, get to swim in the river all the time. … And that river flows from the Ivy League."
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Re: Supreme Court rules to strike down Affirmative Action [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
#28384685 - 07/04/23 10:46 AM (6 months, 21 days ago) |
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Sugabearcrisp said: Yeah idfk I think rxb is arguing for a utopian future where everything is developed in the colleges and universities with unlimited funding, I think 
I have tried to point out that human nature drives innovation primarily for purpose of killing or defending against other humans willing to kill you, but it obviously isn't getting through
He has explicitly argued that in another thread, do not remember which 
@RXB The MIC was formed DURING WWII, with the enactment of War Powers Act of 1941 and creation of the War Production Board. These two actions completely altered how the US outfitted the military, shifting and coordinating civilian industry to wartime efforts. This was also insanely lucrative for these civilian industries, who where then loathe to abandon the consistent and lucrative government contracts, et voila, MIC.
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Re: Supreme Court rules to strike down Affirmative Action [Re: Ice9]
#28384856 - 07/04/23 01:27 PM (6 months, 21 days ago) |
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Ice9 said:
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Sugabearcrisp said: Yeah idfk I think rxb is arguing for a utopian future where everything is developed in the colleges and universities with unlimited funding, I think 
I have tried to point out that human nature drives innovation primarily for purpose of killing or defending against other humans willing to kill you, but it obviously isn't getting through
He has explicitly argued that in another thread, do not remember which 
@RXB The MIC was formed DURING WWII, with the enactment of War Powers Act of 1941 and creation of the War Production Board. These two actions completely altered how the US outfitted the military, shifting and coordinating civilian industry to wartime efforts. This was also insanely lucrative for these civilian industries, who where then loathe to abandon the consistent and lucrative government contracts, et voila, MIC.
it was this thread...mostly atleast... and i made the point you just made that it was the utilization of private contractors that fed them, such that they grew and basically cut the universities out.
the universities can still get grants for some of the development but nothing like it used to be, because those funds now go to big private corps with sweetheart deals... if we returned those programs to the schools where they belong we would foster better growth and development while maintaining our current rates of production... some of the private corps could still be involved in the manufacturing end, but i would carve them out of the engineering completely and give that to grad students ... we did some dod work in robotics... built an autofiring robotic painball gun... and the dod funded parts of the projects. but nothing to the degree they used to.
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