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Re: Adding plant nutrients to your substrate? [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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Ooh cmon now I thought we were friends? I guess if a noobs gonna cry Iβll let them.
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Re: Adding plant nutrients to your substrate? [Re: SirPsycho] 2
#28385332 - 07/04/23 07:42 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Screwup said: Oh right I forgot someone posted that before. Anyways favorite color crayon to snack on while browsing the Shroomery?
Purple... Does my name and sig not make that obvious?
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Re: Adding plant nutrients to your substrate? [Re: aPurpleCray0n] 2
#28385333 - 07/04/23 07:43 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Purple... Does my name and sig not make that obvious?
Not sure if Iβm scared, offended, or turned on by this π€
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MadSeasonStudent said: This site has certainly has gone down hill. I donβt even know why I keep coming around here anymore. All the cool people have left. Maybe I need to take their que on that.
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Re: Adding plant nutrients to your substrate? [Re: SirPsycho]
#28385373 - 07/04/23 08:38 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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It never will be for me young lad. Donβt worry tho- one day youβll grow up and you too will also be old.
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What the hell just happened... Why the toxicity lol >_>
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Re: Adding plant nutrients to your substrate? [Re: Pandaskis] 4
#28385380 - 07/04/23 08:44 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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we glitch-in-the-matrixβd back to 2013 shroomery for a sec
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Re: Adding plant nutrients to your substrate? [Re: hazyhorse] 5
#28385386 - 07/04/23 08:49 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Where on earth do these people come from with all of this utter bullshit? And why don't they go back there?
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Re: Adding plant nutrients to your substrate? [Re: johnukguy]
#28385405 - 07/04/23 09:10 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I think some people on this forum have some deep seeded psychological issues that I donβt think even psilocybin can fix, might be making it worse. Lol
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Re: Adding plant nutrients to your substrate? [Re: Glomus] 3
#28385523 - 07/05/23 12:32 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Glomus said: I think some people on this forum have some deep seeded psychological issues that I donβt think even psilocybin can fix, might be making it worse. Lol
Shall we add psychiatrist to your list of supposed skills?
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Re: Adding plant nutrients to your substrate? [Re: SirPsycho] 1
#28385583 - 07/05/23 04:27 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Adding plant nutrients to your substrate? [Re: altford78] 4
#28385630 - 07/05/23 05:43 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Can we make an attempt at preventing every single thread from devolving into childish ad hominem attacks?
These threads read like a bunch of 13 yo boy's slap fighting over who's the biggest nerd. I'm just as much to blame for subject matter arguments, but at least keep the nerdery on topic, ffs 
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Re: Adding plant nutrients to your substrate? [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#28386324 - 07/05/23 07:06 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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You think it would be fair to assume that Natural Korean farming is kind of whacky with their fermented compost soup fertilizers. With that post about BLIS, seems like that would just disrupt the soil microbe ecosystem more than anything, including beneficial mycelium?
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Re: Adding plant nutrients to your substrate? [Re: Glomus]
#28386325 - 07/05/23 07:07 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Lol, yes arm chair mycologist and psilocybin therapy practitioner.
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Re: Adding plant nutrients to your substrate? [Re: Glomus] 2
#28387544 - 07/06/23 07:05 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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For focking hell's sake. That topic again? ?
Glomus: learn to grow some shrooms. Use known teks before trying to change the world. Salvador Dali learned to draw the human form before becoming what he's known for.
All of this is disproven a decade or more ago. Look at the bottom of the page at "Similar Threads", it's 25 years of the same shit being debunked.
Grow on PCed grain. It's the best thing to use, it's easy to get, not complicated, and everyone does it. Looks in your gallery like you've already started.
Fertilizer / extra nitrogen will just increase contams.
Gypsum is old useless and not needed tek, something like 1 in 10 good growers still uses it, I did a poll: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26954400/fpart/all/vc/1
Coffee changes pH to increase contams.
Posting links to commercial edible shroom grow teks is like, as someone said, "is like saying you need to uses antibiotics on the 4 chickens in your garden because Kentucky Fried Chicken does it on their chicken farms."
And those are different teks, growing on straw, etc.
And before you suggest it, adding Melatonin or Tryptophan to a sub does not increase potency, I did tests: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28370482#28370482
(Though either of those might be a good starting point for lab synthesis of psilocybin by someone who knows that world.)
Read my sigline "NEW? Start here." Read all of that thread, then grow some shrooms.
Grow a quarter pound of mind-melting shrooms on a dollar's worth of grain and nothing else, then see how interested you are in adding rose gardening crap to your grow.
welcome.
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Re: Adding plant nutrients to your substrate? [Re: nektar61] 1
#28387641 - 07/06/23 08:29 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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nektar61 said: For focking hell's sake. That topic again? ?
Glomus: learn to grow some shrooms. Use known teks before trying to change the world. Salvador Dali learned to draw the human form before becoming what he's known for.
All of this is disproven a decade or more ago. Look at the bottom of the page at "Similar Threads", it's 25 years of the same shit being debunked.
Grow on PCed grain. It's the best thing to use, it's easy to get, not complicated, and everyone does it. Looks in your gallery like you've already started.
Fertilizer / extra nitrogen will just increase contams.
Gypsum is old useless and not needed tek, something like 1 in 10 good growers still uses it, I did a poll: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26954400/fpart/all/vc/1
Coffee changes pH to increase contams.
Posting links to commercial edible shroom grow teks is like, as someone said, "is like saying you need to uses antibiotics on the 4 chickens in your garden because Kentucky Fried Chicken does it on their chicken farms."
And those are different teks, growing on straw, etc.
And before you suggest it, adding Melatonin or Tryptophan to a sub does not increase potency, I did tests: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28370482#28370482
(Though either of those might be a good starting point for lab synthesis of psilocybin by someone who knows that world.)
Read my sigline "NEW? Start here." Read all of that thread, then grow some shrooms.
Grow a quarter pound of mind-melting shrooms on a dollar's worth of grain and nothing else, then see how interested you are in adding rose gardening crap to your grow.
welcome.
Didnt you read Nektar? He aint new, according to him, i got weak flushes, and SirP only grows in his unintimidating shitty quart containers. Clearly he is a seasoned pro who doesnt need to read "NEW? start here"
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Re: Adding plant nutrients to your substrate? [Re: Pandaskis]
#28387658 - 07/06/23 08:38 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Pandaskis said: Didnt you read Nektar? He aint new, according to him, i got weak flushes, and SirP only grows in his unintimidating shitty quart containers. Clearly he is a seasoned pro who doesnt need to read "NEW? start here"
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Re: Adding plant nutrients to your substrate? [Re: nektar61] 1
#28387753 - 07/06/23 09:49 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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nektar61 said: Grow a quarter pound of mind-melting shrooms on a dollar's worth of grain and nothing else, then see how interested you are in adding rose gardening crap to your grow.
welcome.
Hey, these hijack here. Can you tell me about growing in just grains? If you mean grains and coire I get it. If it's just grains I'd love to hear more.
I know this doesn't belong here because I'm trying to learn from people who know more than me.
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Re: Adding plant nutrients to your substrate? [Re: Ditchdude]
#28387765 - 07/06/23 09:59 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Ditchdude said: Hey, these hijack here. Can you tell me about growing in just grains? If you mean grains and coire I get it. If it's just grains I'd love to hear more.
Hijack away. You're asking about actually growing, which makes more sense than the OP's posts here.
"Grains, coir, and verm" is what I mean by "just grains." The others are a given.
I mean "Grains, coir, and verm" as opposed to "Grains, coir, and verm, and gypsum, coffee, calcium, PlantGro fertilizer, blood meal, bone meal, worm casings, and fish oil." ...all the other things I've seen noobs suggest to fortify a shoom grow (before they've done a good shroom grow)
Though Bod does grow crazy good shrooms with just grains and coir, no verm. A few people do that here. I never bothered because I don't want to mess with other than what works.
I'm not here to change the shroom world, I'm here to grow shrooms and help others learn to grow shrooms. Anyone who wants to change the shroom world should get good at growing shrooms before suggesting new ways and telling people they're wrong when experienced growers disagree, like the OP who hasn't grown shrooms.
Coir and verm don't have much nutrition, my understanding is they're mostly about water regulation and/or air pockets.
I don't analyze them, I just use them and get good results.
I bet you could grow shrooms on just grain though. They grow in the wild on cow shit and horse shit, and those are just grain with some of the nutrients removed by the animal during digestion.
I know that if you have spawn on grain in a jar, and leave it a couple weeks past when you should tub it, you'll get pins. So that is shrooms growing on just grain.
When noobs on Reddit who don't want to work at it and want to grow a few anemic shrooms inject an Uncle Ben's bag, that's growing shrooms on just grain (and probably some preservatives.)
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Ditchdude said: I'm trying to learn from people who know more than me.
Read my sigline post: NEW? Start here.
Edited by nektar61 (07/07/23 04:25 AM)
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