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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
#28385310 - 07/04/23 07:13 PM (6 months, 21 days ago) |
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*6 years ago:
A few things mentioned in these posts need editing as I was struggling to convey parts of my trips that are a challenge to communicate, and so I just did whatever I could at the time to get it out one way or the other in the form of a worded post.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24128135#24128135
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24128297#24128297
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24129356#24129356
At the end of the day it is a hallucination, fact. Albeit, earlier on it was a mind-blowingly cool one. It still is just things developed forward from that point on so yeah. 
There's lots more where that came from but I think you get the picture and even if not I can't waste anymore time on this right now. GL.
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
#28385325 - 07/04/23 07:35 PM (6 months, 21 days ago) |
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Also you're using the word "admitted" like something slipped or there's a crack in the armor now. I voluntarily mentioned the 2 failings out of 185 or something, jus as the actual dude did. I am not pitching something or obfuscating some nefarious shit. There are a tiny % of people who get 0 effect from DMT, the most potent psychedelic we can get our hands on. That doesn't suddenly make it no longer a psychedelic, does it?
How about this. If you:
- Live in the US
- Pinky promise to give it an honest try
- Make a conscious effort to potty-train
I'll build another laser just for you and even mail it to you for free. It might take me a week or so before I have time, but it's no trouble at all. My trade ratings are 100% and multiple TCs and others can attest to me being a straight shooter. There's a few who might say I ripped them off or stole their identity, but trust me, they're lying. If that happens, let me know, and a Facebook account with their exact name will message you and explain how it was all a simple misunderstanding. Unlike this laser bullshit, that kinda thing can't be faked. I'll shred your address immediately after and won't even line the envelope with anthrax, either. Hell, I'll even throw in a couple risqué pictures of me in a bikini, free of charge!
Really, though. Let me know, dude. What do you have to lose? Stop being a fucking baby.
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
#28385352 - 07/04/23 08:13 PM (6 months, 21 days ago) |
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the code is displayed on our visual field juxtaposed atop "external" reality, interestingly enough I found that you can unlock or manipulate it through body posture and tactile sensation on the skin. Last time I did that I was able to recall memories which I had forgotten about completely, as if they were locked away and forgotten, but now available. It was unbelievable. I remember thinking to myself, LUL - this is impossible - as I do it. Got to love psilocybin. It then became easy to see more than one memory at once, something that once again is to my understanding until then an impossible feat. As if one was an invisible observer , disembodied, yet the driver of of this thing within a sphere composed of light like neural networks that reflect all my experience and memory and things that had passed and things that were becoming from the trace or wake of what I was, something I can only call the aggregates of "me".
This was the entry I'd read from you that convinced me to make this thread, by the way. I was going to PM you specifically, but just bumped a thread you posted in with hopes you'd see it. I thought you'd be fascinated with the idea of triggering the code somehow and playing with it some more. Unbelievable, seemingly impossible feats achieved through seeing this code struck me as something you'd want to explore more. I would personally love to hear from you after fucking with the laser.
Regardless, I find this fascinating and it isn't something I've found others talking about. It seems like something akin to the Akashic Records that you're accessing. I have found many people claiming the symbols seem to communicate or hold information. Our dreams being thought to do with our memories is also interesting to me. Particularly because the hallucinations during sleep are so intertwined with the DMT experiences. So many people seeing greys during sleep paralysis, many of them reporting the feeling of their brain being downloaded or unlocked and stuff. I have also found many people who see these symbols during hypnagogic states, too. Interesting shit. Unrelated to the laser and the code, but interesting nonetheless.
Do you mind sharing more about the experience you had with manipulating the information found in the code? I really want to hear more about the memories being unlocked and whatnot. How many times did you have this experience since then? Or total, ever? "Hallucinations" or not, that's a unique experience I'd like to have. It's a real experience you had, one that apparently unlocked real memories you'd forgotten. Whether that's "hallucinating" or not is up to each person's own definitions, I guess. Please share more.
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] 1
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: cubedryeguy]
#28385575 - 07/05/23 04:02 AM (6 months, 20 days ago) |
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I watch videos 3 times and most of talking is not about the seeing code or techiques to see it but rather philosophy about his point of view. I think this perception is an optical phenomena that can be explainable with classical optical psychics, which is pronounced with 5-ht2 psychedelics. However I found it interesting, I will probably try with mushies, avoiding high reflective surfaces.
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: barisk22] 1
#28385611 - 07/05/23 05:11 AM (6 months, 20 days ago) |
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Glad to hear it. The philosophy part of it is most important to me, I think. Because so many people immediately reject it as "just drugs" or "it's a hallucination!" It seems to me these are arbitrary distinctions we make from limited information. And if we don't reconsider these pointless distinctions (that don't really explain anything anyway), we're limiting ourselves quite significantly.
Please keep us updated and let me know if you'd like to chat regarding building the laser and seeing the effect. #SYD1230 is the diode you want.
1. 650nm 5mW Laser w/ Diffractive Grating (Cross) 2. USB Cable 3. Microscope Lens 4. Electrical Tape or Heat Shrink.
Notes:
- That specific laser has everything required to reveal the code. Any old laser won't work, so make sure you get that model (or one that has a diffracted lens, same wavelength and maximum output of 5mW). A cross beam is optimal, but a single line can work, too. A dot cannot.
- The USB cable from Amazon is optional as it can be replaced with any old USB cable you have sitting around. Just cut the other end off so you only have the USB portion left. The cables I linked are helpful because they're pretty long and have an on/off button.
- Microscope lens is optional, but widens the beam a lot more. This makes it easier to see the code. It isn't 100% necessary, but helps.
To connect power source to laser:
If using an existing USB cable, strip it until you reveal the thinner wires underneath. You only need the red/black (double-check their polarity ahead of time). If using the Amazon cable linked above, the red/black will already be exposed, so skip to the next part.
Carefully strip the ends off the red/black to expose the bare wire. Do the same for the laser. You'll be wiring the positive from the USB to the positive of the laser. Do the same for the black wires, USB to laser. Google for videos on how this is done if it's confusing. It's actually very simple. The red and black wires shouldn't be touching or connected together in any way.
Once connected properly, you want to cover any exposed wire with either electrical tape or heat shrink (or both). Again, you're covering/insulating these separately, not together. Cover the red wire. Then cover the black wire. Once both are covered with no exposed wiring, you can tape them together (personally, I do this after I've made sure it works -- and don't plug anything in until you've gotten exposed wires covered). I think this should make sense to everyone, but if not, ask (or Google).
If you're good at soldering, have at it instead. I've made a few now and have done a combo of each of them, including one with solder and one with only electrical tape to make sure it worked. They all did. Heat shrink is optional as electrical tape alone can work just fine, but it's a little cleaner.
I'd make sure it works first before you really cover up everything tight. When checking if the connection works, I set the laser down and plug the USB in -- preferably in a surge protector/power strip you can flip the switch on/off without contacting the laser or cable directly. This is probably just me being extra cautious, though. To be clear, there shouldn't be any exposed wires when testing it. Then once you see it works, that's when I'd really tape up the wire connections tightly.
Best practices should be followed when doing anything electronic. I'm not a licensed electrician by any means. The local police and judge were very, very clear on that. Anything with electricity should be respected and taken seriously.
I'm going to build a couple more soon enough. I will update this with pictures or something when that happens. I wrote this quick so if something doesn't make sense, chime in and I'll patch it up if someone gets electrocuted. Shocking, I know.
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
#28385628 - 07/05/23 05:33 AM (6 months, 20 days ago) |
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I commend you for keeping busy
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: redgreenvines]
#28385650 - 07/05/23 06:19 AM (6 months, 20 days ago) |
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We all need hobbies, right? I'm down to wire a laser to an old phone charger for a chance to see this really, really interesting visual phenomena. $5 and 20 minutes or so is money and time well spent to me, regardless of result. I got better at soldering and wound up with a nifty laser. What's the issue? Sure, the FAA is on my case for shining it into that cockpit, but we all know what a bunch of whiny pussies those guys are.
On the off-chance I do see that cool effect, hell yeah. I hear it "synaesthesiastically tastes readable." No idea what the fuck that means, but it sounds interesting enough.
But don't worry, Greenstein, I'll still put in a good word for you with the bosses of the simulation.
"He's really not a bad guy, fellas. Don't be too harsh because he didn't believe in you. Yeah, the guy with his picture as his avatar. That's right, the one that looks like it was taken as a security measure when people keep entering the wrong PIN at the lock screen. There he is. Please don't hurt him like he hurt us."
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] 1
#28385664 - 07/05/23 06:46 AM (6 months, 20 days ago) |
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: redgreenvines]
#28385959 - 07/05/23 01:26 PM (6 months, 20 days ago) |
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nektar61 said: That guy in the video is talking about adding "a microscope lens", not sure if between laser and wall, or laser and eye. First will change the refraction and thus reflection in unpredictable ways, second will probably destroy your eye.
I'd recommend instead of lasers, try to see the little green men using flashing LED Christmas lights. Many are now programmable and can make groovy patterns, and don't cost much more than those cheap lasers.
Even the 15 dollar ones you buy on eBay and Amazon (especially the green ones, but even the red ones like in the video, to an extent) can ruin your eyes. It might be tempting to stare into them, or a reflection of them, while so high you forget your species, or even forget that you are life rather than blinding light of all colors at once.
- You shine the laser through the microscope lens to make the beam bigger. Why would it go in-between the laser and your eye? Do you think any of this involves staring directly into a laser?
- Okay, you actually do. No, it isn't tempting to stare right into a laser beam. I'm pretty certain most of us would naturally turn away instantly as a natural response.
- Nobody should be "so high you forget your species, or even forget that you are life rather than blinding light of all colors at once." The experiment requires lower, sub-breakthrough doses of DMT. Please don't "reefer madness" DMT for no reason, especially if you've never done it.
- Light refraction doesn't mean light reflection. I have no idea where you're getting this. A light will refract when it passes through any medium with a refractive index different from the previous one. Air > Glass in this case. It doesn't mean the beam goes crazy, "reflecting" everywhere. If passing a light through glass caused "reflection in unpredictable ways", how would headlights work safely?
- The microsope lens will either expand or contract the spread of the beam (depending on which side you're using). That's it. It's not a mirror or a prism or something. It also doesn't make the beam stronger.
- Flashing LED lights for what? The experiment isn't "stare at some trippy lights and see stuff." It also doesn't involve green lasers or random pointer pens. It requires a specific wavelength (650nm / red) with a diffracted lens and a maximum output of 5mW (rated pretty damn safe everywhere I've checked). You project it onto a door or wall, not your eye or a reflective surface. You get close to the object it's beaming onto while keeping your back to the laser. That's it.
The bulk of what I know about lasers came from researching this experiment and building them for it. I'm definitely not an expert and something above may be wrong. Any corrections will be appreciated, especially if something said above is dangerous.
Thank you for contributing. I agree that the max output stated is not a guarantee on these Chinese lasers. I consider this to be the most likely added danger. Any discomfort caused by the laser should be taken seriously and all experiments should stop. Do you have a source on IR being found in these? That's concerning since we can't see it.
Edited by stareatclouds (07/07/23 09:42 AM)
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] 1
#28386511 - 07/05/23 11:04 PM (6 months, 20 days ago) |
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Why? Just why
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Blue_Lux]
#28386619 - 07/06/23 01:10 AM (6 months, 19 days ago) |
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What part is confusing you?
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Blue_Lux]
#28386636 - 07/06/23 01:45 AM (6 months, 19 days ago) |
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Blue_Lux said: Why? Just why

Idk either
But look, man - don't ask why uNtiL YoU tRy iT.
I know the details are currently just a little bit too fuzzy to understand, but I swear mister, that this here is a legitimate scientific operation!
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
#28386687 - 07/06/23 03:57 AM (6 months, 19 days ago) |
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But look, man - don't ask why uNtiL YoU tRy iT.
Why what, though? Seriously, what more is there to get? Neither of you appear to have any interest in this, yet keep returning to say nothing.
I've answered questions non-stop; probably nearly every single one. A sizable chunk of time was spent with you personally. I never did get a response on those alleged views of mine, by the way. I wasn't able to get you to understand that a single instance of something happening at random isn't the same as a repeated instance of something happening on command, though I did try.
I said I can't explain the laser effect for you. You know, since I can't, being that it's entirely subjective and all that. But if you got something to ask that we haven't covered ad nauseam? Fire away.
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I know the details are currently just a little bit too fuzzy to understand
The details aren't fuzzy, though. In fact, I honestly can't imagine clearer details for something like this. In this thread alone, I've provided:
- written detailed overview of the discovery
- 2 video explanations from who the guy who made the discovery
- specifics on how to replicate the experiment yourself
- technical details on the laser model required
- Amazon links to everything required for laser
- step-by-step instructions on wiring the laser to power source
- helpful comments from Dan to answer user questions
- way more hand-holding than should be necessary with you
I also offered to build and ship you a laser for free because I'd like your input.
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but I swear mister, that this here is a legitimate scientific operation!
No, this obviously isn't a legitimate scientific operation. It's never been presented as such. It's a group of people playing with a laser on potent psychedelics. Why does this matter?
You saw the code in the wild and were absolutely fascinated with how unique and unbelievable it was. You clearly played around with the code to discover that cool tactile/memory effect. You also wanted to go back and draw them. Are either of those scientific studies? No. Does that somehow invalidate the subsequent information you discovered? No, of course not.
Come on, man. Quit being a dumbass just to be a dumbass. There's legitimately no reason what-so-ever you should be so against trying this. It's like you're imagining me as some cult leader trying to recruit you.
I would like us to be on the same side. Your input and experiences with the code are especially valuable to me. Even if you don't try the laser, I wish you'd share more of your experiences with the code. It seems like your code and what the laser reveals are extremely similar, if not the same.
Edited by stareatclouds (07/06/23 05:42 AM)
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: redgreenvines]
#28386779 - 07/06/23 06:31 AM (6 months, 19 days ago) |
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redgreenvines said: amazingly, obvious bullshit is not obvious to everyone. it's even amazing without DMT, astonishing even.
the frame stacking effect will produce everything that appears in this hallucination with or without a laser.
when you are quite stoned, visual frames will not completely fade in 3/10 second as per usual, they will bunch up and overlap interacting with afterimages (which are like negatives) and this produces edges that look like lines (often quite neon like lines).
meantime your head is always moving a bit, and your eyes saccade as well, therefore when quite stoned you will definitely have patterns forming and due to the grid like arrangement of cerebral visual processing areas, the resulting stoned image will appear to be either hieroglyphic-al or alien textual in a grid form which is what lines of text are. I often get cartoons. or even unrecognizable Latin text.
You can easily fall into your own animation of sustained buffered vision because of this - it is not the matrix - the matrix is a fantasy, the laser will only add energy to it.
nothing more.
of course you could try it with a tin foil hat, and even better build a pyramid and do it inside the pyramid. this kind of thing is endless.
Do you not feel silly thinking you're accurately explaining something you have no frame of reference to? Perhaps it's time we take the ego down a notch when you think you're explaining "everything that appears in this hallucination" when you have no idea what actually appears in this hallucination?
You droned on for a half-dozen paragraphs with examples that immediately disqualify your explanation. The descriptions given don't match the laser effect at all, which would be clear if you paid attention. If you can't be bothered to watch the videos, can you at least be less of a smug prick when you next suggest something completely worthless?
You're unwilling to watch the videos, read the thread, ask questions in good faith, or even try the laser out yourself (despite me offering to mail you one). Yet you're in here calling it bullshit with no clue wtf you're even talking about. Being a confidently incorrect know-it-all isn't quite the flex you think it is.
What good is your "HAHAH, this is total bullshit and it's astonishing you believe it" tone, anyway? All that energy does is unnecessarily draw a line in the sand. It's not conducive to a meaningful discussion. It just makes you far less open to new information that might make you reconsider your position. Plus you look dumb when you're nowhere near correct. FOR SHAAAAAME.
A few of you almost seem terrified at the idea of having fun with the laser. Bunch of laserphobes.
Edited by stareatclouds (07/06/23 07:01 AM)
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#28386905 - 07/06/23 09:41 AM (6 months, 19 days ago) |
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I can confirm that I got a sincere offer to get a free laser. Nobody should imagine that the OP is not sincere and dedicated.
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#28386919 - 07/06/23 09:53 AM (6 months, 19 days ago) |
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It’s just a laser and drugs you want to take anyway. No reason not to.
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#28386963 - 07/06/23 10:23 AM (6 months, 19 days ago) |
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Right? But hey, no pressure to Greenstein. I mean, hell, I probably wouldn't have the courage to stare at a laser, either, if I were such a huge chicken! BOK-BOK-BOOK-BK-BK-BOK-BWAAAAWK!
Nah, just kidding. Sincere, sure. I wouldn't say dedicated.
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#28387051 - 07/06/23 11:47 AM (6 months, 19 days ago) |
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A bit off track but I've seen "it" with both DMT and high dose fungus (no laser or special techniques needed), more so with the former than the latter. I'm of the opinion that what we "see" are not hallucinations, but reality that is not visible without the aid of the active ingredients. Just my opinion and tbh, not really interested in debating or arguing, it's just my opinion.
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#28387054 - 07/06/23 11:49 AM (6 months, 19 days ago) |
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On acid I’ve seen more organized figures, numbers, things like that. Also when combining mush and acid. Usually a mixture of numbers and glyphs.
I like the theory that it opens up our perception to things that are there we can’t usually see without it. It’s a cool idea.
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