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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 2
    #28384843 - 07/04/23 01:11 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

I've seen 'it' - or similar enough - too, but what I don't see is how it necessarily means what you're saying you think it does.  In fact, your guess seems based more in several giant leaps of faith than it does well placed observations backed by empirical evidence.
Considering that there are perfectly good explanations that exist now for how the resulting phenomena can occur I can't help but be highly skeptical of your take.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #28384892 - 07/04/23 02:00 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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The Blind Ass said:
I've seen 'it' - or similar enough - too, but what I don't see is how it necessarily means what you're saying you think it does.




Sorry, what exactly do I think this code means? Where is this guess of mine or the leaps of faith you think you're referencing?

Here are a few actual quotes from me (basically all true):

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I don't think just seeing the code means we're 100% in a simulation




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Maybe there's no simulation




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I don't give a fuck what a simulation should be doing or what the implications are from it existing.




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You don't have to give a fuck about simulation theory.




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I agree on the non-falsifiability of simulation theory. That's why so few of my posts are discussing it.




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pretty good for a man like me with a 180 IQ and 14" penis




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seeing the code doesn't mean you have to believe we're in a simulation.




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Even if people see the code, it doesn't have to mean one thing or another. And people are still free to try to demonstrate how it actually is just a visual effect. I am open to that, although current explanations do not fit.




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What it means, I have no idea and am not too interested in discussing at the moment.




I have taken considerable steps to avoid this part of the conversation entirely. In each instance I've referenced the code, I've made it clear that I don't exactly know what it means or how it fits in with a simulation. If it is indeed put here on purpose by something, I don't think it has to be literal source code running a simulation. But again, this is not something I have spent or want to spend much time on. I am interested in establishing that it's there.


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In fact, your guess seems based more in several giant leaps of faith than it does well placed observations backed by empirical evidence.




Damn, that's actually a great point. Well, not the "giant leaps of faith" part, but the emphasis placed on "well placed observations backed by empirical evidence." I have to admit that part is extremely important for this whole thing. In fact, it's absolutely the most necessary component.

Maybe I'll have to rethink how to best achieve it. Maybe something along the lines of telling other people exactly how I saw the code, then asking people to replicate it themselves and report back with their results. Now where to find solid candidates? Hmm, what about a forum where experienced psychonauts discuss their drug experiences? Let me think on this.

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Considering that there are perfectly good explanations that exist now for how the resulting phenomena can occur I can't help but be highly skeptical of your take.




[ ] perfectly good explanations that exist now for how the resulting phenomena can occur
[ ] need for someone to be highly skeptical of anyone's take

1. Laser
2. DMT

1 + 2 = the answer for yourself.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 1
    #28384950 - 07/04/23 02:36 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

You should read Timothy Leary's book Flash Backs. In it he describes how when under the influence of LSD you are able to see the physics describing the universe. When discussing the phenomenon with others that had taken LSD before they also believed they had witnessed the universe as if looking through microscope.

These types of hallucinations are not a discovery of a simulation but rather a feature of the drugs you are taking.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Kiwi89]
    #28385040 - 07/04/23 03:25 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

1. You are not providing evidence to the contrary of anything discussed, including your own example. Arbitrarily assigning "drugs" to everything experienced in an altered state invalidates nothing. Saying "it's drugs" is not explaining anything. It's a pointless distinction that only serves to end the discussion, not explain anything.

2. You, like the others making similar posts, are describing something that isn't at all what I am talking about. Comparing experiences that aren't analogous also doesn't invalidate anything. I've done LSD 10-15 times and have never so much as seen a fractal bouncing off shit, let alone the physics of the universe (and I get excellent acid). I've done a single tab with a friend who could see them bouncing off of trees. The experience is quite subjective, obviously, and we all have different tolerance to things. That is the distinction between the examples people keep providing and what is suggested in the video. It isn't subjective. Everyone sees and describes the same thing. And if his numbers are to be believed, there's like a 99% repeatability rate among those he's shown it to. Nobody in here is describing that.

I have never had the same experience "on drugs" with that kind of repeatability and consistency. Neither have you. Even with experiences that are caused by our brain/body structure that I KNOW happen. I've seen honeycomb-type patterns overlaid on everything when I blink, but not every single time I trip. I've heard many others describe this, too, but not every single time they trip. And even knowing this effect exists and has a simple explanation, I can't "induce" it into your trip with any repeatability.

If I told you wearing a red hat on 2g of cubes would induce form constants, you should be skeptical. If you try it and it works, you should give it more consideration, but still be skeptical. If you get more people to try it, find out it works for them, you should be less skeptical. I would then try to disprove it with blue hats or something. And even then, if I can't, it doesn't have to mean anything. We can sit on it and think for as long as we want.

How can we get to that part if everyone keeps saying, "I saw that effect while tripping once before, back in aught-6. Therefore, it's bullshit!" as if it's the same thing?

"Yeah, dude. I've seen it once or twice, as well. And I don't even wear hats since they can't fit over my helmet. Therefore, it's bullshit!"

None of you have given examples of anything even remotely close to what is described in the videos. It's hard for me to believe you've even watched them or read my posts in this thread, especially when you keep linking my stance with a simulation.

3. Disregard what this HAS to mean or whether it 100% is or isn't a "hallucination" or "just drugs." Consider it a really fucking neat visual effect that you can induce on command. Is that not interesting enough to entertain?

Feel free to keep explaining why this can't be a thing, but I'll no longer be replying. This is something you just need to try for yourself to understand the difference. Otherwise, I'll keep hearing from people who once saw something similar that one time, which is not an explanation. I opened up the thread with the fact people have seen similar symbols randomly throughout our documented use of psychedelics. If you're not interested because you already know it's bullshit, no worries. But you leave me and the gullible nerds I'm trying to recruit into my DMT-cult the hell alone!


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28385050 - 07/04/23 03:33 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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stareatclouds said:
Disregard what this HAS to mean or whether it 100% is or isn't a "hallucination" or "just drugs." Consider it a really fucking neat visual effect that you can induce on command. Is that not interesting enough to entertain?




this is enough for me to be interested. no one is saying anyone has to immediately believe anything

so do i have to do DMT/mushies for this? or can this be done sober? sorry just wanted to confirm that lol


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 2
    #28385081 - 07/04/23 03:58 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

It's Pretty much damn near as it was presented in the hugely successful film Matrix films [ i've also seen it used in 6-7 other sci-fi and or fantasy genre films[]. 

If you use the search engine here you can plenty of other people including myself describing much the same or a painfully similar thing while tripping on DMT or relatively large(r) doses of fungi sometimes (and likely other substances too) - No laser was used, and yet experientially the phenomena occurred much like in the way described by the video posted in the OP.  And I dig it, wonderfully trippy awesomeness that it is. 
But it seems the human brain as affected by a psychedelic substance of sufficient dose that is the common denominator. 

Now, if using a laser in the way you've described as per the video posted earlier in the OP allows the phenomena to be reproduced reliably - then that is kind of cool, but what exactly is your point? 


There are many ways for reliably producing specific illusions & hallucinatory visual imagery.  There's basically a bag of party tricks floating around for anyone who might be interested and which Magicians, ie. Illusionists, commonly pull from to reliably produce all kinds of awesome eye candy for their audiences.

How is the so-called 'alien code' or whatever ultimately any different from ^ those? 



[*this might be only one variation ^ - bc - while tripping i've also experienced the above, but also differently at other times in which the surrounding environment is just like the way it is while I'm not tripping, only the 'unfamiliar streams of code' are juxtaposed like holograms as if floating just above the matter they're overlaid upon in my visual field - and they can remain static like that long enough for a brief inspection while moving about to view it from various angles etc etc]


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 2
    #28385090 - 07/04/23 04:06 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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...Brooms can’t actually fly.




Yes.

The thing OP asks ("Maybe ....the entities are really there and this is an extension of them fucking with us?") is just human brain searching for patterns. It's a survival mechanism and part of what separates us from other species. It's why we make art. It's why we go to space.

First taking LSD as a teen in the 70s I used to always see patterns in blank typing paper. Watermarks that weren't there. I could almost see words. I was just trying to organize the random / semi-random patterns of pulp that exist even in bleached high-quality white typing paper.

Anyone who thinks the machine elves are actually real is just playing with their imaginary friends.

People who believe the "entities" are real also often believe in astrology. Astrology is nonsense made up by people for whom a wheelbarrow would have been a vast increase in current technology. And again, it's trying to see patterns where there aren't the patterns they're seeing.

"You didn't see god, you were drunk as a lord."

All that said, psychedelics are a great tool for understanding life and your own brain. Seeing how tenuous our filtered vision of reality is shows how limited our brains normally see things.

They're also useful for fearing death less, a fear all reasonable humans have whether they admit it or not.

There's "a lot to unpack", but none of it is imaginary friends.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: nektar61] * 1
    #28385099 - 07/04/23 04:10 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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All that said, psychedelics are a great tool for understanding life and your own brain. Seeing how tenuous our filtered vision of reality is shows how limited our brains normally see things.




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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: hazyhorse]
    #28385106 - 07/04/23 04:15 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

No, you can't be sober. At least nobody has reported it sober like that. Feel free to act as your own control for this and play with the laser before tripping.

N,N-DMT is best used, but it can be seen on mushrooms, just not as vivid apparently. I haven't tried with mushrooms and don't know if a higher dose makes them more vivid. I'm also not sure if it's harder to get your mind/eyes to notice them at first, either. But it apparently can work.

I'll try and get the links to the laser up by later tonight.

The Blind Ass,

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How is the so-called 'alien code' or whatever ultimately any different from ^ those?




The fact it can be reproduced reliably with specific parameters. This is the distinction that you keep missing that separates this phenomena from everything else. If you don't think that makes it different (or has no point worthy of discussing), that's fine. I think most people can recognize how interesting and unique this property is.

I don't need to search for reports including symbols, man. Again, I opened up the thread specifically referencing them. I am sure I've done more research into these symbols than everyone in this thread combined. I have already read your experience with them, too, prior to making this thread. There are hundreds of reports mentioning all sorts of symbols. The majority of those are people questioning why they saw them and their meaning. How many of those reports mention a method they discovered to reveal these symbols? Maybe you should run some searches and report back.

No offense, but while I can keep explaining it to you, I can't understand it for you.

nektar,

Tests were performed on individuals who were scheduled to have an eye removed for medical reasons. For the purposes of the test, the eye was normally functioning. Test subjects stared directly at 5 mW lasers with there to-be-removed eye for five to fifteen minutes from various angles. No permanent eye damage occured. Some changes in tissue were noticed. Of course, in a real-world incident, laser light entering the eye would likely last for less than one second, as people naturally look away from bright things and close their eyes, so there is no real danger of direct damage.

But yes, it's possible you actually buy a laser with stronger power and you might accidentally stare directly into it and maybe there's infrared thrown in there, too, and also a tornado might hit.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28385107 - 07/04/23 04:16 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

Lasers aren't something to fuck with for entertainment.

Even the 15 dollar ones you buy on eBay and Amazon (especially the green ones, but even the red ones like in the video, to an extent) can ruin your eyes. It might be tempting to stare into them, or a reflection of them, while so high you forget your species, or even forget that you are life rather than blinding light of all colors at once.

The published power on these is often understated (to appear to follow EU / US / State laws, though the brighter it is, the more they'll sell, based on reviews.)

These cheap laser pens often also have infrared laser light you cannot see mixed in with the red or green light. That can reflect at a different angle than the green light, and can ruin your eyes without you even knowing it.

Laser protective goggles usually sold are often shit, don't work, are just sunglasses. (thanks China). Real protective laser lights are around 75 to 100 dollars, and only protect one light range, and if you get one for green, they're not going to protect against the IR given off by the same cheap 15 dollar laser pen light.

That guy in the video is talking about adding "a microscope lens", not sure if between laser and wall, or laser and eye. First will change the refraction and thus reflection in unpredictable ways, second will probably destroy your eye.

I'd recommend instead of lasers, try to see the little green men using flashing LED Christmas lights. Many are now programmable and can make groovy patterns, and don't cost much more than those cheap lasers.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28385111 - 07/04/23 04:20 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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stareatclouds said:

I'll try and get the links to the laser up by later tonight.

The Blind Ass,

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How is the so-called 'alien code' or whatever ultimately any different from ^ those?




The fact it can be reproduced reliably with specific parameters. This is the distinction that you keep missing that separates this phenomena from everything else.






No, not really distinctive since that applies to literally all phenomenon -  each & every particular one - everything:lol:

And again, no laser is necessary for seeing the kind of hallucination being talked about here. 

While we're at it - DMT, psychedelic mushrooms, and LSD: along with several lsd analogues - (and probably other substances too) - coupled with a human brain can do the trick.  Idk if the laser is truly the deciding factor, some hard data showing that it is or otherwise would be a good start if you want to convince people to go along with what you're proposing in this thread.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28385119 - 07/04/23 04:24 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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1. You are not providing evidence to the contrary of anything discussed, including your own example. Arbitrarily assigning "drugs" to everything experienced in an altered state invalidates nothing. Saying "it's drugs" is not explaining anything. It's a pointless distinction that only serves to end the discussion, not explain anything.




Yet you have to take a drug to see the code behind the simulation. Listen to yourself man.


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But you leave me and the gullible nerds I'm trying to recruit into my DMT-cult the hell alone!




So you open a thread, with what I am sure you knew was some weird I can prove we are in a simulation material, and have now lost your cool because people who have taken drugs and know the weird shit it does to your mind are replying.

Maybe it is time for you to start proving your wild claims instead of getting angry at the monitor. I am sure that it will be helpful mentally, one way or the other.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28385132 - 07/04/23 04:34 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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No, that applies to literally all phenomenons -  everything.




Do you realize literally none of the "phenomenons" you've referenced can be reproduced like this? What the fuck are you even talking about? I don't know how your brain can't recognize making something happen every single time for everyone is not the same as some people saw what resembles that thing some of the time. We're not splitting the atom or solving the Gordian knot here.

Wait, are you actually blind? That might explain some things. I hope it wasn't caused from being near a 5mW laser. Those things are as deadly as Halloween candy with razors, I hear.

While it's fun humoring "explanations" that aren't applicable and anecdotes of completely different scenarios, I have to tap out. There's at least 2 people down to try, so that's a win in my book. With links and instructions for the lasers, I'm hopeful a few more will join in from the sidelines.

While I don't believe the laser is as inherently dangerous as some are suggesting, I genuinely am convinced you probably shouldn't be allowed to use one.

Kiwi,

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Yet you have to take a drug to see the code behind the simulation. Listen to yourself man.




I have listened to myself and I didn't say anything like that. Ah, yes, "a drug!" The deus ex machina for any situation, no matter how unlikely! Why didn't I think of that?!


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Maybe it is time for you to start proving your wild claims instead of getting angry at the monitor.




I don't have any wild claims. I'm not angry. I don't care about a simulation. I saw what the guy in the video said I would see. What this means, I do not know. Even with someone also seeing it with me, I am still not really sold. I am trying to disprove it to myself, believe it or not. I hope to have time to check again for myself this weekend. If I don't see it this time, I will report back.

What proof could I possibly have about what, Einstein? I am telling you how to see this for yourself so you DON'T have to believe anything. 90% of my replies are me explaining that I can't prove anything I'm saying to you. I'm also reminding you that when you see it, you don't have to attach the observation to anything either way.

I am sorry this confuses you. I am sorry that you appear so threatened by the idea of a simulation that you're lashing out. "If I'm simulated, why am I such a damn dweeb? Why, cruel creators, WHY?!" I get it, man. I truly do. If you got a brain smoother than a cantaloupe, why does the sloth dude preaching the laser bullshit get an IQ of 195 and a 16" cock? Like I said, I don't have the answers.

The video linked is on a channel with step-by-step instructions to build the laser. Either do it or don't, brainiac. The only thing left for me to do is realize when certain people are just way too smart to be fooled by this bullshit. And well, old friend, you've certainly proven your intellect in these back-and-forths. Please, wise one, let me focus on the more gullible now.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 2
    #28385139 - 07/04/23 04:41 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

Alrighty then...

fyi - I don't need eyes to smell your bullshit.

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 1
    #28385141 - 07/04/23 04:42 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Blue_Lux] * 1
    #28385161 - 07/04/23 04:56 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

now that we know, we can go home and start packing.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28385177 - 07/04/23 05:07 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28385276 - 07/04/23 06:31 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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Alrighty then...

fyi - I don't need eyes to smell your bullshit.

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A pile of shit has a thousand eyes.

It's a shame because I swear you came thiiiiis close to getting it. Like, you were right there with almost acknowledging what is different about randomly seeing something interesting vs. reliably seeing it every time. And the edit containing a description of the "unfamiliar streams of code" is particularly interesting.

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[*this might be only one variation ^ - bc - while tripping i've also experienced the above, but also differently at other times in which the surrounding environment is just like the way it is while I'm not tripping, only the 'unfamiliar streams of code' are juxtaposed like holograms as if floating just above the matter they're overlaid upon in my visual field - and they can remain static like that long enough for a brief inspection while moving about to view it from various angles etc etc]




And you're saying you see this sometimes or every single time you trip? It sounds like only sometimes and that it has appeared at random? Either way it sounds pretty fucking interesting.. almost purposeful in some way.

It reminds me of this other dude's account I read before:

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I can't be sure.  But I have seen them too and it is most fascinating and simultaneously a bit unbelievable.
The thing is the "code" or however it is displayed in my vision is not "static". By that I mean  Its not like it goes Away if I blink real hard and turn around 3 times and go away and come back .. it is still there.
It seems to be my brain and all my experience and knowledge combined into wonderfully complex yet simple coded symbols...but nothing I can consciously discern the meaning of by any stretch of the imagination.




Interesting. This person seems pretty impressed by what they saw, even calling it "most fascinating" and "a bit unbelievable." Despite being unsure of the meaning, they apparently recognize just how unique the behavior of the "hallucination" is. I agree, it's a little odd you can blink, turn around, put your left foot in and shake it all about, yet it's still there. Like it's behaving as if it's a real thing almost. I mean, it's at least not behaving like the random hallucinations I've had before.

Maybe I should've found that guy for this? Imagine if I told him there was a way to reveal that same kind of effect by doing something extremely easy? Maybe he'd consider that significant. Or at least interesting.

But even if he found it insignificant, he'd at least understand that invoking/revealing/inducing/seeing/hallucinating this effect, seemingly on command, is different than it sometimes appearing randomly, right?

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28385283 - 07/04/23 06:37 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

Nice try, you almost told it truthfully.

but - You already admitted earlier on that it has not worked for everyone every single time.

No shame.  Just go back to the drawing board. :leaving:


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28385300 - 07/04/23 06:59 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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As if it was creatively coded in a language known by our system & only translatable to itself - if at all.  < The experiential result of which I liken to intuitively interacting with a novel, adaptive, & projected mind map that utilizes the history of the body’s sensory experience as its data points being “played” by the intellect.  Also, I forget the name of the phenomena but it occurs easily when cloud gazing - identifying patterns on/in surfaces that are really only in the mind though.  How does that play into the “text/symbol” overlay experience?
I suppose at the very least it can add another layer of dimension to the experience.

When a flashlight is applied & held to the palm of the hand while in an otherwise lightless room - the light shining through the skin will illuminate more of what is always already there in some form or another but which is otherwise normally hidden.




Very interesting theories by the same person. And a cool analogy with the flashlight illuminating something always there, but otherwise hidden. I should PM him and see if he'd like to try an experiment that lets him interact with these symbols whenever he wants. What he's describing when gazing at the sky isn't what I think the laser thing is, though. And I know all about seeing something cool when you stare at clouds. But I don't know with certainty so I can't say for sure.


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when I notice the writing which can be high or low contrast, clearly formed letters that disappear/change or alien texts I really want to be able to read it but cannot. It synaesthesiastically tastes readable.




Another person mentioning this. You were right, researching the symbols has lead me to some interesting reports. Maybe I'll message this dude, too. Maybe the laser reveals the same kinds of characters he's describing? I'm sure he'd have a better chance at deciphering them if he can reveal them for extended periods whenever he wants?


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Nice try, you almost told it truthfully.

but - You already admitted earlier on that it has not worked for everyone every single time.

No shame.  Just go back to the drawing board.




"Only a 99% success rate so far? To do something that shouldn't really be possible at all? PFFFT, big whoop! Hey, it might produce an amazing experience that has completely wowwed me in the past, but what am I bothering for if only 99% of people can see it? Hell, according to Big Statistic, 99% of people stop shitting themselves by the time they reach adulthood. Well, here I am, 42 years young and still making plop-plop in my undies. Sorry, but I've been played by those kind of odds before."

I really wish you understood how much of a complete fucking idiot you sound like right now. Despite me making fun of you, we are not enemies on this, my man. Your default doesn't have to be disbelieving or fighting back at shit I'm saying. What's the harm in trying what is suggested? You're afraid you might like it or something? I don't even know what you're rejecting. You said you've seen the code before, thought it was unbelievable, and seemed eager to tell people about it. Why isn't this interesting to you?

You seem to think it's completely explainable and obvious why a laser would produce these kinds of hallucinations. Ok, boom, solved it. Oh hey, look, the magic combination to display the shit you previously geeked out over. Why exactly are you so against this again? At the very least, try it, confirm it's the same thing, and work with everyone to disprove it as anything more than pattern-matching from our brains. That would be a solid result for me because I am interested in the truth.

$20 maximum investment. Even if it doesn't work, you get a laser, so that's cool. Plus you can rub it in my face that I mailed Laserboy in the video $500 to join his cult AND I severed my 20" dong. All for nothing!

If it does work, you can still maintain your position of, "Who gives a fuck? I saw this before and this is no different!" Or you can just lie and pretend you didn't see anything. Either way, you seriously should buy some diapers or something at least.


Edited by stareatclouds (07/04/23 07:38 PM)


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