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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: hazyhorse] * 2
    #28384188 - 07/03/23 08:39 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

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hazyhorse said:
i will probably need the links :lol:

sounds easy enough tho. i’ll watch the video & stuff a bit later when i get some free time




That book sounds awesome. I've definitely heard that title. I'll have to check it later. I also think some of Gallimore's ideas sound interesting regarding this.

I'll update the thread tomorrow or so with specifics on the build. Also, feel free to not watch any of the videos and go in blind on the test. :wink: No worries either way. If I tell you the laser reveals a secret message about Ovaltine, it shouldn't matter. You shouldn't see a crummy commercial just because someone suggests it.

Holler.

Edit: Googled overview of the book and it aligns with some of my thoughts on my DMT experiences. I also will say that certain things in the description align with certain things tied to the experiment. Damn.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28384191 - 07/03/23 08:42 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

I don't mean to derail: any simulation would by definition be deterministic, no? How could something be undetermined from a determined set of parameters, unless it is simply undefined? And if it is undefined then how could there be any knowledge of it? namely, of consciousness? If I'm not mistaken some phenomenologist remarked upon it as 'indeterminate being.' How could there be any breathing being within a determined system? Every breath would have been already calculated, and so consciousness itself would be an illusion. And the implication would be that we are robots with an illusion of experience. If we are in any simulation then it is programmed. You cannot program indeterminacy. That is an oxymoron.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28384198 - 07/03/23 08:51 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

It depends on what you mean by simulation. I don't think we'd have to be robots. AGI is projected to be a real thing, achievable possibly within our lifetimes. Perhaps we are AGI ourselves and now we're getting close to building our own simulation of sorts? No idea. Like I said, code first, theorize on implications later (for me).

Perhaps this is best discussed in the Philosophy section?


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384206 - 07/03/23 09:07 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

AGI is the biggest lie since Jesus.

Edited: it's a tie between AGI and aliens


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384210 - 07/03/23 09:11 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

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stareatclouds said:
If the code is there, it's a pretty big thing. As such, my main goal with this post is to immediately get people to try the experiment. The main gripe everyone says about his videos is that the power of influence invalidated the results. This is the main reason I am hesitant to give specifics on the code itself. I know it's kind of annoying and a copout, but answering your question will provide insight. It'll shape people's idea of what should be there as a result. I don't want to do that. I am sorry if it comes off as withholding on purpose.

The "already considered" part was trying to assure people it doesn't have an obvious explanation not yet considered. Like someone saying they've seen it randomly on specific textures. It's not that. Basically it's a "source: trust me, bro" from someone who actually is trustworthy and with a reason for doing that.

Another way of looking at it is me assuring everyone that I'm not a fucking idiot. I wouldn't have gotten to the point of making this thread without having ruled out very obvious things. The likelihood of me just now realizing, "Oh, fuck! It actually was everyone just looking at a weird surface and only happening sometimes at random!" is not good. It's more likely I would've died bathing with a toaster beforehand or blinding myself with the laser.

Anyway, it'd be rad if everyone commenting (who were capable) would say, "Fuck it. Let's all try it next Friday at midnight" and we could all discuss the results immediately. That's my hope. So anybody else on the sidelines, I'd love to get a couple on board.




I certainly understand what you mean.  Hopefully more info will be revealed once this is figured out! 
I'd love to know what all has been found so far, but I know what you mean about skewing the results/experiences, I agree it's best to keep what you mention at a minimum so there's no outside influences on people when they check it out.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384211 - 07/03/23 09:13 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

Same old frankenstein monster nonsense. We will never be gods that create an intelligent species. We are not ens causa sui. All that is logically absurd. 

Your newspeak definition of philosophy doesn't change the fact that science, rhetoric, and rationality are all birthed from it. The complete  fallacy of 'code first, implicate later' is the epitome of all that is wrong with this generation.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384271 - 07/03/23 11:23 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

If you have a skeptic arguing for pragmatism in any matter... Something has gone seriously wrong.

That is, when the skeptic no longer believes in the effectiveness of it because they see others deluded by fantasies and lies. Even skepticism is out of the window, because knowledge becomes based upon nothing, a falsis principiis proficisci, to set out from false beginnings. Freud said it perfectly in one of his books about theories... "like an iron statue with clay feet" .... flashback to Nebuchadnezzar


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384292 - 07/03/23 11:55 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

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I am a disciple of the philosopher Dionysus and I would prefer to be a satyr rather than a saint. But just read this book! Maybe I have here succeeded in expressing this contrast in a cheerful and at the same time sympathetic manner— perhaps this is the only purpose of the present work. The very last thing I should promise to accomplish would be to "improve” mankind. I do not set up any new idols; may the old idols learn what it is to have legs of clay. To overthrow idols (idols is the name I give to all ideals) – that is much more like my business. In the same proportion as an ideal world has been falsely assumed, reality has been robbed of its value, its meaning and its truthfulness. The "real world” and the "apparent world”—in plain English the fabricated world and reality. To date, the lie of the ideal has been the curse of reality; by means of it the very source of mankind’s instincts has become mendacious and false; so much so that those values that have come to be worshipped are the exact opposite of the ones which would ensure man’s prosperity, his future and his exalted right to a future.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384307 - 07/04/23 12:08 AM (6 months, 22 days ago)

Oh whatever here is the citation
Moses and Monotheism, Sigmund Freud, pg. 30

"At the end of my essay I said that important and far-reaching conclusions could be drawn from the suggestion that Moses was an Egyptian; but I was not prepared to uphold them publicly, since they were based only on psychological probabilities and lacked objective proof. The more significant the possibilities thus discerned the more cautious is one about exposing them to the critical attack of the outside world without any secure foundation like an iron monument with feet of clay. No probability, however seductive, can protect us from error; even if all parts of a problem seem to fit together like the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle, one has to remember that the probable need not necessarily be the truth and the truth not always probable. And, lastly, it is not attractive to be classed with the scholastics and talmudists who are satisfied to exercise their ingenuity unconcerned how far removed their conclusions may
be from the truth
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 3
    #28384312 - 07/04/23 12:18 AM (6 months, 22 days ago)

Woah, I did not plan on spending an hour and a half watching two videos and reading 5000+ words in posts with most of that time still spent watching the videos in which he talks a lot but is saying essentially nothing.. It feels exactly like a conspiracy thread:lol:

But that aside. Why MUST it be a simulation? I feel a lot of people misinterpret the matrix(the movie) as more futuristic than it is, same with any dystopian future story. It can only be written with the inspiration coming from the problems currently at hand. The "matrix" is not a computer simulation at all, it is a linguistic simulation, where words and language are used to control people's behavior, to convince them that money is more important than most anything else, and to even control how they think of value, which must be paper money and not physical natural resources, so entire countries can be hoodwinked out of their true wealth(like those in Africa and South America). We are literally enslaved by this matrix, with police taking away your freedom if you don't want to play by the completely unfair rules of the simulation. Yet if you can see past it, into it's source code, you can control the inhabitants of the matrix the same way it's creators do every day. This is what the movie is about, aliens and computers have fuck all to do with it, its PEOPLE trying to enslave PEOPLE with money and debt and prisons, that is what the matrix is about.

Also, this is not scientific in the least. I get that he wants to avoid confirmation bias or whatever, but in doing so he assumes we know psychology better than we know physics, and considering psychology as a science is roughly less than a tenth of the age of physics, I think this laser contraption of his would be better used studying the psychology of shared phenomena than "IT'S DEFS 100% A FUCKIN MATRIX Y'ALL". The fact that he doesn't want to say anything specific about the language or what is seen also makes it sound(to those who are uninitiated) like it could look like source code, but it could also look like a dolphin, like it's all 100% interpretative and no defined structure can be elucidated whatsoever as of yet with all his 180+ guinea pigs. I know this might not be the case and I might change my tune once I see the laser on DMT, but this is what it would sound like to scientists. I mean if he believed it was truly empirically observable, it should be IMPOSSIBLE to imagine it with or without psychological priming, you know it's a bit fishy that he would even think that it is having experienced it himself.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384365 - 07/04/23 03:19 AM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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That book sounds awesome. I've definitely heard that title. I'll have to check it later. I also think some of Gallimore's ideas sound interesting regarding this.

I'll update the thread tomorrow or so with specifics on the build. Also, feel free to not watch any of the videos and go in blind on the test. :wink: No worries either way. If I tell you the laser reveals a secret message about Ovaltine, it shouldn't matter. You shouldn't see a crummy commercial just because someone suggests it.

Holler.

Edit: Googled overview of the book and it aligns with some of my thoughts on my DMT experiences. I also will say that certain things in the description align with certain things tied to the experiment. Damn.




Quote:

"Maybe there's an entire world existing alongside us playing a role. We just can't see it." DMT is the microscope and he's urging us to look through it with that specific lens.




oh yeah i think you'll love that book :lol: really really cool stuff, incredibly thought out & really well written, he's got great writing voice so it's a pretty quick read. i'd recommend getting a physical copy if you can, there are a ton of footnotes & sources that he goes into a lot of detail on in the appendix, & it would probably be easier to flip back & forth in a physical copy. the notes add a ton of depth to the book

hahaha hell yeah dude, i think i'll actually just go in blind as i can. might as well, right? even if all i get is an ad i'm sure it'll at least be interesting :lol: really nothing to lose by trying it out!


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: hazyhorse]
    #28384379 - 07/04/23 03:46 AM (6 months, 21 days ago)

I am watching this thread since first post but I have no time to watch videos until today, and today videos are restricted.
If someone downloaded them could you please upload somewhere else?
Anyway I watched the available videos in the channed including laser construction of 650 mm 5 MW laser in the tecnique he says do not look directly to the beam but you can look to the reflection but I am not sure about this.
Looking to the reflection of laser can also burn your retina and macula (1).
I do also make a kind of device reminds me. I make some little holes with sharp little needle in aluminium foil. I watch either reflections of light trough this or flashing lights and make that unfocus and focus eye movement mentioned in the videos. I generally see noticiable letters and shapes by this way at the peak of 10 Gr mush. This may be safer than lasers.

Edit:I can access videos through VPN now, I think it is because of country restriction.

1. https://laserpointerforums.com/threads/hit-my-eyes-with-a-5mw-650nm-red-laser.100033/


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: ShiroiTora] * 1
    #28384599 - 07/04/23 09:33 AM (6 months, 21 days ago)

Staring at an object that has a 5mW laser pointed on it is not going to damage your eyes. At least it's not rated to from what I Googled beforehand. The main risk would be the laser being higher than 5mW despite the rating saying so. But everyone needs to calculate their own risk if they want to do this or not.

Shining the laser on something highly reflective like a mirror should not be done. To anyone confused, the object you want to shine the laser at should not be a mirror or a human eyeball or something mirror-like that beams the laser back into your eyeball like a mirror. Something like a wooden door or regular wall would be advisable.

If your eyes are being strained or your head begins to hurt, don't continue. But make sure 5mW is the max output on the laser.

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Woah, I did not plan on spending an hour and a half watching two videos and reading 5000+ words in posts with most of that time still spent watching the videos in which he talks a lot but is saying essentially nothing.. It feels exactly like a conspiracy thread:lol:

But that aside. Why MUST it be a simulation? I feel a lot of people misinterpret the matrix(the movie) as more futuristic than it is, same with any dystopian future story. It can only be written with the inspiration coming from the problems currently at hand. The "matrix" is not a computer simulation at all, it is a linguistic simulation, where words and language are used to control people's behavior, to convince them that money is more important than most anything else, and to even control how they think of value, which must be paper money and not physical natural resources, so entire countries can be hoodwinked out of their true wealth(like those in Africa and South America). We are literally enslaved by this matrix, with police taking away your freedom if you don't want to play by the completely unfair rules of the simulation. Yet if you can see past it, into it's source code, you can control the inhabitants of the matrix the same way it's creators do every day. This is what the movie is about, aliens and computers have fuck all to do with it, its PEOPLE trying to enslave PEOPLE with money and debt and prisons, that is what the matrix is about.

Also, this is not scientific in the least. I get that he wants to avoid confirmation bias or whatever, but in doing so he assumes we know psychology better than we know physics, and considering psychology as a science is roughly less than a tenth of the age of physics, I think this laser contraption of his would be better used studying the psychology of shared phenomena than "IT'S DEFS 100% A FUCKIN MATRIX Y'ALL". The fact that he doesn't want to say anything specific about the language or what is seen also makes it sound(to those who are uninitiated) like it could look like source code, but it could also look like a dolphin, like it's all 100% interpretative and no defined structure can be elucidated whatsoever as of yet with all his 180+ guinea pigs. I know this might not be the case and I might change my tune once I see the laser on DMT, but this is what it would sound like to scientists. I mean if he believed it was truly empirically observable, it should be IMPOSSIBLE to imagine it with or without psychological priming, you know it's a bit fishy that he would even think that it is having experienced it himself.




A good example of why I had the disclaimers in the OP.

1. I addressed whether it has to be literal source code or not in another comment.
2. The Matrix has nothing to do with anything he's saying.
3. He is putting together double-blind tests with scientists. This is to get others on board.
4. Your summarization in the second paragraph is indeed not accurate.

5. "I mean if he believed it was truly empirically observable, it should be IMPOSSIBLE to imagine it with or without psychological priming, you know it's a bit fishy that he would even think that it is having experienced it himself."

Exactly. And it is. He has said this multiple times online and I swear he addresses it in the videos you watched. I also have said this to people. It honestly shouldn't and doesn't matter. It absolutely looks the same to everyone who sees it. They describe the same thing. If I tell you it's a bunch of 8===D symbols, you aren't going to see dicks. But the general public seems to think that's how this whole thing works. He's trying to avoid that with the assumption people will try the experiment.

Here are a few of his comments online addressing this:

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When I did it with people without telling them, many times they get confused. But if you try it for yourself and see it, you will know exactly what I mean by its Epistemologically Sound. It doesn't belong to a family of things that can be suggested to you. It's extremely stable and coherent. And that's a very important attribute of it. Because it becomes clear that thinking of it in terms of something that has been suggested to you, is equivalent to thinking about your couch in terms of only existing because I told you there's a couch there. It's not "that kind of thing".




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Again, it’s in the video. You can’t suggest something to happen this specifically with such robust attributes and have it appear 100% of the time for everybody without any variation




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I’m addressing this in the video. You can’t suggest something this specific to also appear 100% of the time unless that something actually exists on its own side.




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Yes, this is a very common objection, which I understand, but every time I answer it I realize more and more how misplaced it is. I will use my answer to you to speak to the world at large, so please don't feel like I'm being dismissive of your questions or your sentiment. I take all of your points and I understand the issues you're raising. But I have answered these questions so many times that I prefer to give a deeper answer here, which will include some strident points. This attitude is not aimed at you as an individual. I am talking to what I notice to be a general narrative that I believe is holding us back.

First, to your point about mushrooms. This is actually a perfect example of a deep misconception people have about psychedelics specifically and of the power of suggestion in general. I'm not sure how much experience you have with mushrooms, but the scenario that you've described is highly unlikely. Yes, things become more malleable when you're on mushrooms, but they are not infinitely elastic. So no, you will not get more visuals if you believe that if you stand on one foot it will make it so. And in fact, it is much more often the case that you will get things you did not expect at all; which is one of the very good reasons people are afraid of bad trips. But this misconception is actually of a much more general nature.

The way we treat the placebo effect, points to a deeply confused notion of reality. When people say, “it’s just placebo”. What do they mean by “just”, exactly? Are they talking about the fact that symptoms - sometimes very real physical symptoms - go away, because someone was convinced they were given something we thought is supposed to cure it, when in fact we gave them a sugar pill? And this happens 30% of the time? And you don't think this merits everyone to pause and ask what exactly is the relationship between the mind and our physical body? Here is another fun fact. The more radical the means of inducing a placebo the higher the percentage of people for whom the placebo works. Sometimes as high as 53%. So what does this mean? Well, one very plausible thing it can mean is that conviction (whatever in fact it is) seems to be playing a major role in what happens to us physically. And you don't think this is important to the discussion of what is the main driver, the mind or the physical world?

Then there is the it’s-something-that-our-brain-is-doing types of explanations; which are not really explanations at all. They are an attempt to indefinitely postpone the explanation, by never addressing the actual question and sweeping it under a physicalist rug. It is the equivalent of saying that it was magic. And no, I am not exaggerating. Saying “it’s something we don’t understand about the mind” has exactly the same explanatory power as saying it’s magic.

The code resembles ____, which also addresses your point about people who speak different languages. I speak three, and none of them are ____. Everyone sees the exact same thing. What I always tell people when I'm answering this question is that what you see in the laser has enough variability and stability to be able to run a blind test even if I say to you you see ____. As to your point about it being unlikely that someone who would be able to simulate realities would be using ____ or ____ that we can understand. Yes, you are absolutely correct. And yet, here we are. So maybe we don't really know what is plausible in this space. One possible explanation is that we're supposed to find this and solve some puzzles using it to get a pass to join the larger space. But I will be the first to admit that this is a very wild guess. One thing I am not guessing though is the fact that it's there.

The bottom line is this. My first video on the subject is missing a lot of key points to make this more salient for people. This is why I'm releasing a new follow-up video next month that addresses a lot of these points in much more depth. But the point of this video wasn't to convince anyone. It was to make this information available to anyone that would like to try and replicate it.

I hope this answer satisfied your concerns, and please forgive my tone if I came across as too stern. As I said, I felt like I was answering the world, more than you personally, so I felt justified to adopt a stronger tone. If you have any more specific questions please don't hesitate to ask.

Thank you for your questions.




You can decide for yourself how deluded Laserboy is. To me, he sounds pretty sane. But maybe that's just because he's addressing redditors.

I've edited out stuff about the code specifically. If you want to search, you can find out. I politely request that anybody who digs to find more about the code doesn't mention it in the open here. Yes, I'm aware it doesn't matter and I'm aware this doesn't make for a real science experiment. But just for funsies, please don't discuss the specifics of the "code" out in the open since there are a few avoiding it for their own experiment.

Again, I promise the extremely obvious explanations for seeing this have already been addressed and factored in. I'm equally grounded in both reality and humility, which is pretty good for a man like me with a 180 IQ and 14" penis. Okay, okay. Listen, I am not a genius, nor a narcissist, but I am at least not a complete moron. If there's a different explanation for this, which I am open to, it's not he obvious ones.

Regardless, less tallky, more lasery. Let me know if you want to build the laser. I'm going to post how I built mine tonight or tomorrow, I think.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: SevR]
    #28384720 - 07/04/23 11:13 AM (6 months, 21 days ago)

agree and and also this

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the 'simulation' we're in is one that is entirely generated BY representational language itself....

What's a world look like where we're actually experiencing reality directly instead of through the lens of a word-representation- to FEEL fully instead of thinking about the feeling?

At least all of my really-deep-out there experiences have been EXPERIENCES i've been experiencing, you know? with a distinct lack of a linguistic overlay.

Representational Language only gives the appearance of communication- we can never be certain the other person truly understood what we are trying to express. It's my thought that this was why it was introduced here- Best way to conquer is to separate and divide. Gotta figure out how to break the apex-species out of it felt-mental-commmunion with the rest of the planet if you want to start mining it.




good points, I resented spending time with the Fuckit talking head video.

Simulation theory thrives on the fact that there is hardly any way at all to even imagine how the people or things that made the simulation exist or where and why.

Presumably someone might hijack the simulation (like in Matrix) and fix the political crisis.

meaning that this, like all conspiracies and religions is fundamentally a political gambit - "can we get a few more believers?"

If you can get some believers then it hardly matters if you don't exactly believe it yourself, you have a 'family', and beliefs are extra.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #28384746 - 07/04/23 11:38 AM (6 months, 21 days ago)

You don't have to give a fuck about simulation theory. If you spent more time reading the thread and less time posting irrelevant shit in it, you might understand that. I agree on the non-falsifiability of simulation theory. That's why so few of my posts are discussing it.

The focal point to discuss is the "code." How can there be a "code" that is coherently revealed through this laser + altered state? Your brother being an orthodontist who makes shit up is one explanation. It isn't what I'd call a good one, but at least you're in the right arena of discussion by trying to disprove what the laser reveals.

What "believers" are you talking about? He is literally telling you how to perform this yourself and see. No belief required. And seeing the code doesn't mean you have to believe we're in a simulation. If you believe the "real Matrix" is the crippling debt, class division, and wealth-inequality we've accrued along the way, I'm with you. But please drone on and on about it elsewhere. You can take the latin guy with you.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384777 - 07/04/23 12:07 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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Again, I promise the extremely obvious explanations for seeing this have already been addressed and factored in. I'm equally grounded in both reality and humility, which is pretty good for a man like me with a 180 IQ and 14" penis. Okay, okay. Listen, I am not a genius, nor a narcissist, but I am at least not a complete moron. If there's a different explanation for this, which I am open to, it's not he obvious ones.

Regardless, less tallky, more lasery. Let me know if you want to build the laser. I'm going to post how I built mine tonight or tomorrow, I think.




You are funny Mr Sloth:lol:

Fine I'll try it out the laser, for funsies.. Does oral DMT work with it?


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384787 - 07/04/23 12:15 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

I sincerely doubt you have ever even done DMT.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384795 - 07/04/23 12:22 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

Why spread such psychotic disinformation?


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Blue_Lux] * 1
    #28384821 - 07/04/23 12:52 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

amazingly, obvious bullshit is not obvious to everyone.
it's even amazing without DMT,
astonishing even.

the frame stacking effect will produce everything that appears in this hallucination with or without a laser.

when you are quite stoned, visual frames will not completely fade in 3/10 second as per usual, they will bunch up and overlap interacting with afterimages (which are like negatives) and this produces edges that look like lines (often quite neon like lines).

meantime your head is always moving a bit, and your eyes saccade as well, therefore when quite stoned you will definitely have patterns forming and due to the grid like arrangement of cerebral visual processing areas, the resulting stoned image will appear to be either hieroglyphic-al or alien textual in a grid form which is what lines of text are. I often get cartoons. or even unrecognizable Latin text.

You can easily fall into your own animation of sustained buffered vision because of this - it is not the matrix - the matrix is a fantasy, the laser will only add energy to it.

nothing more.

of course you could try it with a tin foil hat, and even better build a pyramid and do it inside the pyramid. this kind of thing is endless.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: ShiroiTora]
    #28384830 - 07/04/23 12:58 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

Like pharmahuasca? I have no experience with that myself, only vaped DMT (that I'm apparently lying about), but I don't see why not. n,n-DMT is the ticket and mushrooms apparently work, too. I'd assume oral DMT would work as well if the dosage/effects are similar to what is needed when vaped.


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Why spread such psychotic disinformation?




I liked you better when you were babbling about Lucifer in Latin. Sorry, no idea what disinformation I'm spreading. I did DMT while looking at a laser on a wall and saw "code." This isn't disinformation. It's a real thing. What it means, I have no idea and am not too interested in discussing at the moment.

I'm not theorizing random conspiracies or telling people to believe anything I'm saying. There is a specific and easy thing to do that will either validate or disprove the existence of this code. And I'm doing what I can for people to help with that. Why that isn't encouraged and appreciated by you is odd to me, but whatever. Even if people see the code, it doesn't have to mean one thing or another. And people are still free to try to demonstrate how it actually is just a visual effect. I am open to that, although current explanations do not fit.

If you're not interested in performing the experiment, that's totally fine. I would appreciate if you don't completely derail the thread, though. It's already busy enough with redgreenvine displaying the Dunning-Kruger effect in 1080P.


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