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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28384011 - 07/03/23 05:33 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

That's cool, but I see that language without needing some special setup in many static viewing areas such as a white popcorn ceiling or wall, looking at my arm hairs, etc. etc.  I've seen everything from latin words to a druidic/glyphic type language on LSD many times.

Alex Grey and his wife has been very good at replicating the glyphic languages from LSD and DMT.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384025 - 07/03/23 05:42 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

What I meant with all that is really simple. The idea we have of hallucinating is premised upon a long history of meaning pertaining to the conception of 'light' itself. There is a tendency in people to associate light with consciousness, and this is very old. The Latin was to show how clear this was once in the very words people use. For instance, a word for 'clear' is lucidus, although obviously clarus is closer to our own. There is therefore a sort of historico-psychological precedent within the language we use to articulate ourselves to conceive these sorts of experiences in accordance with characterizations of light. Because the modern day is the technological era, this metaphor shows up in the clime of the current day; e.g. the Matrix.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28384026 - 07/03/23 05:42 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

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Just for the sake of discussion, you’re assuming whatever this in theory is operates just like existing technology we have INSIDE the allowed parameters of the simulation. If it were all fake, why would you assume things outside the simulation work the same way?

Kind of erroneous thinking





Why make the simulation less efficient than what we are able to do inside the simulation? Having each object consist of it's own code, no need for that, we already have more efficient ways of running simulations. Our creators are behind the times.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384041 - 07/03/23 05:53 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

A great English word to demonstrate the connection between consciousness and light, within our conceptions, is the word elucidate. There is another Latin word... Ēlūcus. It means a dreamer or drowsy person.
Besides obviously lucid.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Kiwi89]
    #28384049 - 07/03/23 06:03 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

@ Lux:

C l e a r    L i g h t
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White Light = Rainbow =  V o i d  = Rainbow = Black Light




@ smelly & kiwi:  Do you two not think simulation theory's kinda lame on its own?


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28384056 - 07/03/23 06:10 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

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I’ve had dreams where I’m falling sideways. Like the physics of falling, but horizontal. Floating. Things like that.



so, the same, just turned 90°?

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Most games aren’t, right? Like Sonic the Hedgehog or any Harry Potter. Brooms can’t actually fly.




the worlds in both games appear to be based on our own. you've seen stuff fly before. flying and broomsticks were both taken from our world. many things about our world would seem to be magical. all of the content in these games was not just invented out of nothing. it came from experienced "reality". you see this stuff in movies. the alien will be based off of an insect or a fish or something that has occurred before. You will be hard pressed to find anything that couldn't be traced back to some origin.

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Even these are only unrealistic manipulations of real physics. I’m suggesting it’s foolish to assume something outside of a purposefully crafted fake reality would be identical physically to the real, external reality should that be the case. Otherwise why make a fake one? Unless it’s like a Matrix situation and we are all enslaved somehow.




you are inflicting your experience on this actual real world. why would they have computers? or need to run simulations? if their world is so different from ours? their world is so different that we can't understand it and have nothing in common, but they run simulations? on computers?

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28384077 - 07/03/23 06:38 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

:trippy:

But in all seriousness I'm not sure about the implications. I don't agree with a deterministic universe or consciousness. I don't think freedom is an adequate word. There is an undeterminedness of consciousness, and it is precisely in being itself that is subsists as such. Obviously there are set perameters but these do not force any outcome. Being is be-ing. It is not understood well as a noun. It is a verb, and this is part of why Latin fascinates me so much. Latin has certain structure and operation with regard to verbs whereas English, and other languages birthed from Latin, are nomecentric, or noun-centered, as the word noun is derived from the latin word for 'name,' which is nomen, whereas Latin is more centered around the uses of verbs and things in motion. The word emotion itself is probably the most important English word, in my opinion, and it exists because the latin meaning is contained, although the concept 'emotion' is attacked regularly and there are philosophical interests which like to pick it apart and make it into the noun, in accordance with a nomecentric (if you will) linguistic structure. The implications of this for thought are extraordinary but quickly become quite dense.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28384081 - 07/03/23 06:45 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

Do you see what I was trying to get at there? I cannot help but see a stagnance in English with regard to nouns, and this is why I think English is itself a Platonically derived language. Yes, I think philosophy itself has birthed different types of languages that can do different things, but more importantly CANNOT do certain things that other languages can do. I'm not sure why this is the case exactly but I can see it quite clearly. I think this is at the root of many philosophical problems and conundrums, which Nietzsche called snares of language.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28384085 - 07/03/23 06:50 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

This linguistic stagnance is, I think, the reason for the conundrum about determinism versus freedom to begin with. I think it is precisely this 'stagnance' of thought, within the structure of language, that provides the (illusory) backdrop of a determined world and precludes any well rounded conclusion to that very old debate.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28384094 - 07/03/23 07:02 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

What I'm saying, basically, is in modern languages there are conundrums built into them, into the structure with which they operate. The illusion is if you think enough about it with those same words then you will be able to solve those challenges. On the contrary... They are not meant to be solved and there is no conclusion, because the language is inadequate... the reason why is... There are a few reasons I can think of... And none of them are happy.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #28384107 - 07/03/23 07:25 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

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I’m saying if our perceived reality is a deception, then you can’t rely on its inherent rules to describe phenomena outside its scope. But this is really just experimental thinking, I’m not saying things are that way. I’m saying if our existence is a simulation, what lies beyond said simulation could be ANYTHING




Agreed. It's akin to when people anthropomorphize God. The very definition of God defies our ability to understand. If there's a civilization advanced enough to run a simulation like this, I don't propose we're smart enough to understand their motives. When everything we know is contained within a simulation, we're limited to what's within it. The same people pointing out flaws in logic can't explain the technology they're typing on to share that opinion.

If people are starting from a finish line of "this is not possible", they'll naturally work backwards on why any explanation given must be something else. That's why I'm not going to spend much time explaining why obvious answers don't fit. It's essentially a non-falsifiable thing that you must see for yourself to believe. Fortunately, with a cheap laser and some DMT, you can.

I've seen the code, so personally, I don't give a fuck what a simulation should be doing or what the implications are from it existing. At least not yet. We must first get on the same page of whether the code is there. For that reason, I'm focused on getting some of you knuckleheads to play with the laser like I did. There's no reason you should see the same thing that I see, even when replicating the conditions.

For what it's worth, I am of the opinion that it's more like an Easter egg as opposed to raw source code. Something to serve as a constant from the "psychedelic/altered consciousness" side of things. Basically a little nod that lets us know someone is in charge. Or at least higher up than us on the food chain. And that's my stance if the "out there" side of things is correct. It could be just the right blend of external parameters to trigger this neat effect in human brains. Unlikely to me, but possible. But as I said, code confirmation first, speculation later (for me personally).


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That's cool, but I see that language without needing some special setup in many static viewing areas such as a white popcorn ceiling or wall, looking at my arm hairs, etc. etc.  I've seen everything from latin words to a druidic/glyphic type language on LSD many times.

Alex Grey and his wife has been very good at replicating the glyphic languages from LSD and DMT.




It's not Allyson's language and they're not like traditional glyphs from what I've seen. Either way, I don't think you're understanding the distinction between what you're describing and the laser. Mainly "many times" is not "every time."


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Blue_Lux] * 2
    #28384130 - 07/03/23 07:37 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

the 'simulation' we're in is one that is entirely generated BY representational language itself....

What's a world look like where we're actually experiencing reality directly instead of through the lens of a word-representation- to FEEL fully instead of thinking about the feeling?

At least all of my really-deep-out there experiences have been EXPERIENCES i've been experiencing, you know? with a distinct lack of a linguistic overlay.

Representational Language only gives the appearance of communication- we can never be certain the other person truly understood what we are trying to express. It's my thought that this was why it was introduced here- Best way to conquer is to separate and divide. Gotta figure out how to break the apex-species out of it felt-mental-commmunion with the rest of the planet if you want to start mining it.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Blue_Lux] * 1
    #28384133 - 07/03/23 07:40 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

Kinda hijacking the thread and getting off topic...

But yes I follow what you're trying to get at.

From my pov atm the whole 'conundrum about determinism versus freedom' - it isn't really even truly a conundrum to begin with - it can just seem like it is sometimes.  I tend to see the issue having more so to do with the present limitations of the human brain.

Not to say there aren't ways of honing mind to develop both proficiency with language & discernment in general to expand our understanding of the nature of things.

Words, concepts, ideas - in any language - depending on how we understand things - can have an efx like dreaming up an illusory conceptual cage of sorts which can influence how we then perceive the world in and around us etc etc. 

Luckily, in a manner of speaking,
there are some very good antidotes to that.  :cool::mushroom2:


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28384140 - 07/03/23 07:48 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

Do the letters/characters change while staring at them?  If you look away, and then back to the same place/line in the code/string, are the same letters in the same place? 
If it all remains same individual letters/code in same location, do two people see the same individual letters/code in this same area?  Has that been checked and confirmed by those viewing?


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Kiwi89] * 1
    #28384149 - 07/03/23 07:53 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

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Also he is contradicting himself. He suggest that we can not build instruments to see things we are not able to perceive, 10:35 first video, but also admits that we can build instruments that we are not able to perceive.




There is no contradiction. I think you're misinterpreting him. We are unable to see UV with our own eyes, but we do have instruments able to detect and confirm it. Without those instruments, we'd never be able to "see" (and prove) the existence of that part of the spectrum.

He's positing that the altered state rendered from DMT might be akin to UV's previously unrecognized space on the spectrum. If so, DMT might be the tool needed to turn our brains into that instrumentation. If we don't even consider this, he's saying there might be an entire world of information we're missing out on.

Think before germ theory evolved into our current understanding. People thought "bad air" caused disease and doctor's didn't even bother washing their hands. In this scenario, he's saying, "Maybe there's an entire world existing alongside us playing a role. We just can't see it." DMT is the microscope and he's urging us to look through it with that specific lens.

It's honestly more analogous to germ theory than I like.

xShroomerx,

This isn't applicable, but falls into the category of "already considered, but not entirely relevant." Not trying to be rude or dismissive, but as I said above, people will have to see it for themselves to "get it." I also want to be vague for the people who are down to try. As little influence as possible is probably best for building a case.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384156 - 07/03/23 08:01 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

I believe it for sure, without having ever seen this or done DMT (yet) :frown:
I was asking from a curiosity standpoint, thinking maybe the answer to my question could prove something or provide some kind if insight if the answer is one way or the other. 
Why would you consider that question or it's answer not relevant, doesn't what I meant make any sense from a scientific standpoint in regards to what any of it all means?


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: xShroomerx] * 1
    #28384164 - 07/03/23 08:15 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

If the code is there, it's a pretty big thing. As such, my main goal with this post is to immediately get people to try the experiment. The main gripe everyone says about his videos is that the power of influence invalidated the results. This is the main reason I am hesitant to give specifics on the code itself. I know it's kind of annoying and a copout, but answering your question will provide insight. It'll shape people's idea of what should be there as a result. I don't want to do that. I am sorry if it comes off as withholding on purpose.

The "already considered" part was trying to assure people it doesn't have an obvious explanation not yet considered. Like someone saying they've seen it randomly on specific textures. It's not that. Basically it's a "source: trust me, bro" from someone who actually is trustworthy and with a reason for doing that.

Another way of looking at it is me assuring everyone that I'm not a fucking idiot. I wouldn't have gotten to the point of making this thread without having ruled out very obvious things. The likelihood of me just now realizing, "Oh, fuck! It actually was everyone just looking at a weird surface and only happening sometimes at random!" is not good. It's more likely I would've died bathing with a toaster beforehand or blinding myself with the laser.

Anyway, it'd be rad if everyone commenting (who were capable) would say, "Fuck it. Let's all try it next Friday at midnight" and we could all discuss the results immediately. That's my hope. So anybody else on the sidelines, I'd love to get a couple on board.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 1
    #28384170 - 07/03/23 08:21 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

only skimmed this thread so far but i love weird bullshit. will fully be trying the lasers at some point for whatever they do.

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edit: a little off topic, but this kind of discussion reminds me of a book called “the cosmic serpent.” an anthropologist studying alongside some south american indigenous cultures got a chance to partake in an ayahuasca ceremony & it lead him down a rabbit hole to suggesting that altered states will give the consciousness the ability to extract information from otherwise imperceivable places/dimensions. not woo-woo or anything either, dude has a phD & did his homework with all the receipts. i’d highly recommend if you like this kind of stuff.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: hazyhorse] * 1
    #28384179 - 07/03/23 08:28 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

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only skimmed this thread so far but i love weird bullshit. will fully be trying the lasers at some point for whatever they do.

:camping:




Hell yeah, man. I love to hear that. The laser must be 650nm, 5mW max, with a diffracted beam. The cross-shaped beam is the best and the wider, the better (that's what she said). #SYD1230 is the diode to buy since it has all of the requirements. Wiring it to your power source is all that's needed and it's not difficult.

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384183 - 07/03/23 08:32 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

i will probably need the links :lol:

sounds easy enough tho. i’ll watch the video & stuff a bit later when i get some free time


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