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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: skOsH]
#28538355 - 11/11/23 09:13 AM (2 months, 15 days ago) |
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: redgreenvines]
#28539545 - 11/11/23 10:47 PM (2 months, 15 days ago) |
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You're still unwilling to give it a try, red?
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
#28540120 - 11/12/23 11:25 AM (2 months, 14 days ago) |
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I feel like anyone who is unwilling to try hasn't seen the video on "building the laser". When you read that at first your reaction is "i gotta build this complicated thing to experience this little novelty?" But for real, the laser build is literally just connecting two wires together. Everything is basically "out of the box" and you just power it.
There are videos at the end of the second released youtube video of people tripping and seeing the phenomenon.
I would definitely want to see the double blind results someday especially for people that haven't seen "the matrix". Like people removed from pop culture. There is still a part of me that wonders if because the matrix is so ubiquitous and were so used to that imagery that it's like "of course everyone is going to hallucinate code"
I haven't joined the discussion boards yet but has anyone reported two people doing the test at the same time and seeing the same characters at the same time?
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: elasticaltiger]
#28540966 - 11/12/23 09:43 PM (2 months, 14 days ago) |
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tiger,
Check this post with links to diode + power source. It includes a video on wiring them together. Yep, super easy.
Dan has shown groups of 5-10 people with all of them seeing the code, but it's not static so you can't isolate a single character in the same space sitting still. He has shown and gotten people to see it who didn't know of the code or anything about the experiment.
Regarding The Matrix, I was always curious whether the Wachowski's were psychonauts because I bet seeing code like that predates The Matrix. Dan has shown it to people who haven't seen The Matrix, too. There are other "structures" within the laser, too, but I believe he mentions them less to avoid the "priming" accusations. I didn't see it, but my other friend did separately. She didn't know of them prior, though (neither did I at that point). Someone recently made a recreation of the structures and Dan says it's the best representation of it so far. I sent it to my friend and she said that's what she was seeing. It's all pretty interesting.
You can apparently see the code on mush, by the way, although much fainter.
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
#28541348 - 11/13/23 10:54 AM (2 months, 13 days ago) |
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I guess I won't truly understand until i see it but i think if two people can view the same thing and call out the numbers as they see them to verify they are truly seeing the same thing then it would be almost irrefutable proof. How fast do the numbers change? Would it be possible for two people to say "we both saw numbers 324" pass by in that order?
I guess I just won't understand unless i see it for myself.
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
#28543012 - 11/14/23 05:47 PM (2 months, 12 days ago) |
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stareatclouds said: You're still unwilling to give it a try, red?
I don't feel like reading back through everything you wrote but have you done this thing and are you convinced that it works? If so do you think it works when two people are separated by time? If so I will make a plan to do it with you at exactly the same time and we can live record ourselves drawing our depictions. If you think that whatever you end up seeing is also dependent upon where you are in space then I suppose that would be useless.
I feel like if I tried it once and I saw the thing that I would be very compelled to start doing a whole bunch of tests with other people. It's been a long time now and if you know if people were convinced by this I just don't see how it wouldn't have started leaking. Like specific decoded messages leaking
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: morrowasted] 1
#28543599 - 11/15/23 03:59 AM (2 months, 11 days ago) |
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stareatclouds said:I tried it with a friend and we both wound up seeing it (as well as other effects the video creator reports with it). The laser does indeed appear to reveal code.
Yes. I've done it. The effect is definitely there, although there are certain variables that play a role in seeing it. Excluding the correct laser, the most important factor is reaching the level of high required, I think, but it's well-defined beyond that. There are several things that are observed to help and seem important enough.
Here's a post ITT:
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LogicaL Chaos said:I took two hits of my homemade, extracted DMT (not very pure) and turned on the laser in my dark room, about 95% dark.
I held the laser still with my right hand and looked across the beam on the bottom and on the left side. First I saw flashes of light, sorta like lighting. Then, a few minutes into the trip, I see motion. I see this "stamping" action of symbols across the left-bottom side of the red laser. Looked very similar to how The Matrix symbols fall down and highlight the middle symbol. But instead of all the code above it, I could only see the highlighting part in the middle. It was incredible! I couldnt make out the symbols but I definitely saw distant shapes separated by space and time
It should be noted that you don't want to be in the dark like he was; light actually helps. You also do not want to hold it. Have the laser setup and mounted still before hitting the DMT. You want to initially stare at where the beam hits the wall, then shift to staring through the laser. Just kind of stare through it, looking for any spots that appear moving or taking on some sort of structure. Once you find something like that, focus on it and gently move the laser a bit. If the object you're observing remains in place and doesn't move with the light, you're in the right place and want to focus there.
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stareatclouds said:I did the experiment again last Saturday with a laser holder I made for the laser. I did get a minor effect, not as strong as the previous experience I described above. I think I had a tolerance to DMT at that point. However, I did see some similar flashes of light within the laser beam.
I did shine it thru a glass of water, as suggested by stareatclouds. It didnt help the code show thru however it did create this trippy 3D-like effect inside the laser when I ran the laser across my clear glass cup filled with water. It looked similar to some DMT art Ive seen, in terms of the patterns inside the laser. Really amazing looking. Makes for a great trip toy
I'm not sure what he means by "show through", but beaming it through water and onto the wall is supposed to increase the definition, so to speak. It just makes it clearer and easier to observe. but I believe this is largely effected by how much of the beam is carried through. Different placements change this dramatically. I have no idea how this was setup on his end and also haven't done this part myself yet.
You should also look in the glass of water itself and parts of the beam that are in there should show you things. I'm also not sure what he means by creating an effect "inside the laser." Perhaps he means inside the beam of the laser within the water like I mentioned above?
I know Hobbit has tried a few times, mostly with mush, and hasn't seen it. He is now playing with DMT and I think still dialing in his technique. I think he's tried it a few times, but it seemed like he was not high enough from his descriptions the first couple times. The way he described the visuals last time were quite a bit higher, perhaps too much so, but I'd need to ask more questions and Shroomery PMs suck for this. To be clear, you don't want to be at a point where
Another member has tried and not seen anything on mush, but I do know his initial setup was not going to work. I think he did fix the setup and eat mush again without seeing it, but don't want to keep bugging people to do psychedelics and go back-and-forth trying to troubleshoot, haha.
So far, 2 people from Shroomery that I sent lasers to have seen it, I believe. Another person elsewhere also did. I think 2 others from Shroomery haven't seen it yet and 2 others haven't yet tried. It's difficult for me to verify people's setup, obviously, but I do find most are omitting some of the recommendations (at least initially). In my experience and talking with folks, it's tough to focus on the task with mushrooms. I have set my laser up twice on mushrooms and wound up fucking around with other shit both times. It's tougher with people/friends.
I should've put together a standardized questionnaire and required pictures of their setup to validate the experiment being done right. Current back-and-forth isn't optimal to troubleshoot. Not that people are fucking up or something, but I just find myself asking 15 questions in response because there's tons of shit that might be an issue.
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morrowasted said: If so do you think it works when two people are separated by time? If so I will make a plan to do it with you at exactly the same time and we can live record ourselves drawing our depictions. If you think that whatever you end up seeing is also dependent upon where you are in space then I suppose that would be useless.
It is not an easy thing to draw and video chatting doesn't add much. Just try it for yourself and report back on what the code resembles (in PM) and any other notable properties. I am confident it will align with what is reported by others. It also should get easier to see the more you play with it, so I'm hopeful those that see it find it interesting enough to try some more.
My last few attempts vaping DMT have been pretty terrifying for me. Mush was actually quite difficult last 2 times because it immediately triggered my difficult DMT memories. It's likely a bad idea, but I'll be getting another DMT cart within the next 2 weeks. Get yourself a laser. I'll report my next laser attempt.
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I feel like if I tried it once and I saw the thing that I would be very compelled to start doing a whole bunch of tests with other people. It's been a long time now and if you know if people were convinced by this I just don't see how it wouldn't have started leaking. Like specific decoded messages leaking
We can't decode them at this point. It's supposed to be the "code" generating whatever it is you're revealing it within. Imagine atoms comprising everything. Now imagine this thing comprises atoms. There are plenty of people in the wild who affirm seeing the code. It's definitely an observable thing. But most people don't care, especially when it requires "drugs." 14 pages of psychonauts in here and even with free lasers, there isn't too much of an interest.
Dan is working with a couple physicists on the discovery. There are other things being tested that he believes will change what is seen in the laser.
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
#28544354 - 11/15/23 05:56 PM (2 months, 11 days ago) |
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Can any of the other people who have tried it chime in?
I'll end up doing it sooner or later, damn you. I don't want to but my curiosity is too strong
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: morrowasted]
#28544505 - 11/15/23 07:23 PM (2 months, 11 days ago) |
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I mean, either do it or don't. It's an extremely cheap laser diode you can wire to a phone charger in 5 minutes. If you don't want to do it, don't do it. I'm not trying to convince you.
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: morrowasted]
#28544535 - 11/15/23 07:50 PM (2 months, 11 days ago) |
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I highly recommend trying it Morrow. Its fascinating.
Im gonna try do another experimental run hopefully this Saturday.
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Blue_Lux]
#28544578 - 11/15/23 08:31 PM (2 months, 11 days ago) |
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If I see something compelling my first step is to try to find someone who is illiterate and see if they can describe what, if anything, they see when trying it.
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#28544746 - 11/16/23 02:48 AM (2 months, 10 days ago) |
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Blue_Lux said: I recommend using prisms and mirrors and splitting the beam into a spectrum with a fog/smoke machine. Industrial blue lasers may work better, or rob an ophthalmologist for the one they do lasik with. That'll prolly work best

Is there any chance you can stop commenting in this thread please?
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LogicaL Chaos said: I highly recommend trying it Morrow. Its fascinating.
Im gonna try do another experimental run hopefully this Saturday.
Shit, I'll try and get that questionnaire thing done. I want to standardize some sort of data to help improve the protocol. Going to PM you right quick.
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