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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: Kiwi89]
    #28405734 - 07/23/23 09:57 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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Okay, legs say 'meaningful information'.




Oh really now, care to address why the implementation of any of the processes I posted would not yield meaningful information.



You just said implementation yourself


The important point is that entanglement seems like a very viable mechanism for coordinating activation of disparate neural networks. It's not just kooks talking about information processing in the brain involving molecules that generate cubits 



Anyway I would like to digress back into semiotics, which I feel more confident in my education in. So many gems in Plato, and there's a huge extra layer of depth when you can read it in the original Greek

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But if this is a battle of names, some of them asserting that they are like the truth, others contending that they are, how or by what criterion are we to decide between them? For there are no other names to which appeal can be made, but obviously recourse must be had to another standard which, without employing names, will make clear which of the two are right; and this must be a standard which shows the truth of things....


Soc. Let us suppose that to any extent you please you can learn things through the medium of names, and suppose also that you can learn them from the things themselves- which is likely to be the nobler and clearer way to learn of the image, whether the image and the truth of which the image is the expression have been rightly conceived, or to learn of the truth whether the truth and the image of it have been duly executed?

Crat. I should say that we must learn of the truth.

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Soc. How real existence is to be studied or discovered is, I suspect, beyond you and me. But we may admit so much, that the knowledge of things is not to be derived from names. No; they must be studied and investigated in themselves.







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Ὅντινα μὲν τοίνυν τρόπον δεῖ μανθάνειν ἢ εὑρίσκειν τὰ ὄντα͵ μεῖζον ἴσως ἐστὶν ἐγνωκέναι ἢ κατ΄ ἐμὲ καὶ σέ· ἀγαπητὸν δὲ καὶ τοῦτο ὁμολογήσασθαι͵ ὅτι οὐκ ἐξ ὀνομάτων ἀλλὰ πολὺ μᾶλλον αὐτὰ ἐξ αὑτῶν καὶ μαθητέον καὶ ζητητέον ἢ ἐκ τῶν ὀνομάτων




Idk why some characters won't copy and paste but whatever here it is

His meno basically concludes that virtue and knowledge come from the gods. It's a really interesting dialog, super tedious at times, and I used to hate the conclusion, but I have a new appreciation for it


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #28405751 - 07/23/23 10:09 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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Okay, legs say 'meaningful information'.




Oh really now, care to address why the implementation of any of the processes I posted would not yield meaningful information.



You just said implementation yourself


The important point is that entanglement seems like a very viable mechanism for coordinating activation of disparate neural networks. It's not just kooks talking about information processing in the brain involving molecules that generate cubits.





So you are unable to actually understand what you posted are you. You are just cobbling together words that sound nice to you.


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: Kiwi89]
    #28405775 - 07/23/23 10:36 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

Sorry are you a quantum physicist? Information theorist? Biosemitician? What do you do? If kind of looks like you just asked chapgpt whether quantum information requires engagement and copied and pasted it



I definitely don't understand what I read from physics as well as I would with more formal education, but at least I can say I pay attention. I listen to Sean carrols mindscape religiously. A lot of it goes over my head, but when I see something that triggers a kind of semantic bell ringing, I look into it, and I post what I find to see who can help me sort the baby from the bathwater. During covid and continuing today I constantly have to deal with people who don't understand medicine to the extent that they would if they had a formal education and a lot of them fall for whacko ideas, but some of them find their way to pretty simple truths about health and healing without apparently needing to understand all of the nitty gritty details.


You come across as a naysayer. I was one too until I realized how little is actually agreed upon in the sciences. Firstly and most saliently in medicine but also clearly in physics. I don't need to do calculations to see that physicists are obviously still either perplexed or intellectually compromised

I'm literally just posting a bunch of links to academic journal articles and texts and saying hey for anyone openmindendly considering whether there is anything to do this, some of the information here might be helpful or relevant to helping you parse the problem.


If your mind is already made up then you are already made up


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted]
    #28405836 - 07/24/23 12:15 AM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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morrowasted said: What do you do?




My day job is in a Science field, yes I have a university education in this particular field. I do not feel like doxing myself though. 



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morrowasted said: If kind of looks like you just asked chapgpt whether quantum information requires engagement and copied and pasted it




Using Chat GPT or even a simple google search would have helped you, just google your post to see.

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morrowasted said:A central requirement for quantum-processing





More worrying though is your reply's, which were meandering in a manner that was a deliberate attempt to not address the discussion but rather change the point of the post under discussion.


Edited by Kiwi89 (07/24/23 12:29 AM)


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: Kiwi89]
    #28405973 - 07/24/23 05:27 AM (6 months, 1 day ago)

Glancing back at the enormous activity in this thread, I have to agree. nothing substantial is forthcoming, and most of it could be cast into the domain of meaningless code scrolling on my screen.

HAIL THE GREATLASER!

Svaha!


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28406081 - 07/24/23 08:47 AM (6 months, 1 day ago)

Svahaaa!

The other night while looking for some code whilst tipping,
I think I might've accidently broken a transwarp conduit or two.

(well, I wasn't actually looking for any code of any sort, I was just tripping, but still)


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28406349 - 07/24/23 11:26 AM (6 months, 1 day ago)

I take care not to break my vast conduit when it is upon me


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28407156 - 07/24/23 09:39 PM (6 months, 1 day ago)

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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://ora.ox.ac.uk/objects/uuid:5de616e1-32c8-496b-808a-41c4c8100e6c/download_file%3Fsafe_filename%3DPlayer_2021_Spin_dynamics_calculations.pdf.pdf%26type_of_work%3DThesis&ved=2ahUKEwjLksbC76iAAxWJkokEHROGC3YQFnoECA4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw0Aghg3WSPRzTbrdjHlXeFr


big document about relevance of quantum effects like the one proposed by fisher and the followup researchers about specific molecules containing phosphorous and calcium. The reason for the effect is way above my head, stuff about geometry and electrodynamics, but followup team simulation confirmed the effect but only revised the size of the molecule cluster


By the way the laser guy finally returned my email saying he has been busy traveling but he only wants to talk through something like Whatsapp or telegram. I don't wanna download any new potentially sketchy apps. I don't have anything like Twitter or Instagram or TikTok even.

Tbh I've sort of lost interest anyway. If it turns out to be true I'll find out eventually. I told him he can contact me if he wants to but I won't be pursuing dialogue for now


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted]
    #28407185 - 07/24/23 09:55 PM (6 months, 1 day ago)

kinda boring. ok


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28407233 - 07/24/23 10:40 PM (6 months, 1 day ago)

I think this is really interesting, on a  psychological level. The world, or the simulation if you want, is made up of stunning small objects which are used to create ever larger objects until we get to the visible world of the human eye. If the laser revels the code behind the simulation what level of the building blocks does it revel down to?

In the real world we can use  imaging tools to see ever smaller objects. If we use imaging techniques on the code will there be ever smaller code. Who will be the first to discover the code the makes up the code. 

What baffles me though, why hasn't there been photos published of the laser light on objects that display the code? That way we could just smoke our DMT and look at the photos and the code would then be reveled to everyone.


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: Kiwi89]
    #28407239 - 07/24/23 10:45 PM (6 months, 1 day ago)

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What baffles me though, why hasn't there been photos published of the laser light on objects that display the code?


the answer given was he didn't want to ruin the potential for independent verification by 'priming' people to see a specific set of forms


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted]
    #28407245 - 07/24/23 10:50 PM (6 months, 1 day ago)

Who knows maybe the zodiac killer drew it ages ago and just put the crosshair to the bottom right so it wasn't 'in the way' :tongue:


(Mostly) joking. Hope I'm wrong or else I fucked up his efforts lol. But I also hope I'm wrong cuz the deciphered message was boring



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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted]
    #28407508 - 07/25/23 07:30 AM (6 months, 17 hours ago)



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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: Warrk]
    #28407618 - 07/25/23 09:00 AM (6 months, 15 hours ago)

Why do you think it's good?


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: Kiwi89] * 3
    #28411219 - 07/28/23 04:12 AM (5 months, 28 days ago)

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What baffles me though, why hasn't there been photos published of the laser light on objects that display the code? That way we could just smoke our DMT and look at the photos and the code would then be reveled to everyone.




You can apparently do this. It has been done. Sorry, this apparently has only been done once so IDK how reliable it is. Either way, the laser is easy af to build, so just build one, yo.

Anyway, the "objects" don't display the code, though. The laser "reveals" the code that the objects are comprised of.



Folks at home, feel free to try this. I don't know if this will work or you need the beam blown up in the image. I've never done this, only read that it works. But you won't be able to move the beam around and "reveal" the code within stuff (the effect that kind of separates this from 'durrr it's laser and drugs, durrr' stance).

Sorry for hiatus. Been offline for a bit. I been slacking and realized I didn't mail my extra laser the user I was supposed to. I've since built a few more. I have 4 extra now, I think. If anybody else wants one, send me a pre-paid mailer to your address and I'll get it in the mail ASAP when I mail the initial one to the far-too-patient Shroomery member.

TBA can still have his for free, though, if he wants to take me up on it. I think I'm retired entirely from DMT so I doubt I'll be making anymore lasers after this "batch" I just did.


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Glancing back at the enormous activity in this thread, I have to agree. nothing substantial is forthcoming, and most of it could be cast into the domain of meaningless code scrolling on my screen.

HAIL THE GREATLASER!

Svaha!




lol, what forthcoming information can there be when the active participants are dudes like you who are completely unwilling to try the experiment?

Logikal,

650nm is preferred wavelength. Different colors show different parts of the code, but 650nm is optimal as it shows the most. It needs to be diffracted though.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28412860 - 07/29/23 12:39 PM (5 months, 27 days ago)



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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #28413054 - 07/29/23 04:37 PM (5 months, 27 days ago)



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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28414820 - 07/31/23 07:54 AM (5 months, 25 days ago)

"how can you have any pudding if you don't eat meat"?  :oldman:


In other news:


Mi mushies are seemingly coming along fairly well thus far...so...

:paranoid: Thinkin' lil ol' me *mita bee agate'n abagel' friggin' lazer, bebe!  Ho! :cheers:

(^ try and guess the accent the above was supposed to be in)


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #28414912 - 07/31/23 09:53 AM (5 months, 25 days ago)

I recognize the "Ho!"
Must be elvish, Santa's helpers to be precise, from the North Pole, "Ho, Ho, Ho, Merry Christmas!"


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28415375 - 07/31/23 05:48 PM (5 months, 25 days ago)

Right about now someone could shine a strong laser into my eyes. Perhaps a really powerful blue one for blue lux


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