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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #28403802 - 07/22/23 11:45 AM (6 months, 3 days ago)

I don't know what you mean by plugged into a source


I know that I found this video months back on Reddit/r/DMT around the same time the original poster found it and that at that time I had had a series of experiences where I felt compelled to jot down a set of symbols that are not part of our alphabet for no obvious reason. I know that there is a growing population of neographers on Reddit (/r/neography), but the reason for it eludes me- why are thousands of people making up new symbol sets? They're not just pretty pictures either. The people classify them according to the kind of symbol sets that they are: logogramic, alphasyllabic, Abjad, Abugida. The timing of Lightcode, mentioned by LC  producing all of the videos, matches up pretty closely.

I get that styles of arts trend overtime and that much of the creative process just involves borrowing and rearranging things you've already seen.

I guess I would chalk up my openmindedness mostly to a single experience I had on dmt. If you go back through the years in my post history I had long been the kind of person who would just cynically dismiss any claims that psychedelic drugs did anything other than inject a bunch of noise into or scramble information the brain is processing. And it seems that they do do that.


I used DMT probably a hundred times before I had my weird experience- which happened maybe a few weeks before I found the original video from the OP, coincidentally. The major difference on that occasion was that I was in fact holding up light filaments in between my eyes and the flat surface of my ceiling. I had a unique visual experience- never had it before or since. it was like I could frame part of my vision with the light filaments and whatever was inside of the frame BEHIND MY CEILING FAN on the ceiling was... Well, light-code like. It wasn't just shifting colorful fractal geometry.


Anyway I'm really not in the mood to do DMT right now so my plan on testing this is on hold for the moment. It makes me into a genuine space cadet


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted]
    #28403890 - 07/22/23 01:17 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

Amazing! So u held an old filament light bulb to your eyes while on DMT and saw a similar light code? :eek:


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 3
    #28403952 - 07/22/23 02:02 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

I think when it comes to Synchronicity, or things happening all around the world at the same time (a la 100th monkey - critical mental activation theory) we have to be somewhat open minded, but not so open minded that our brains fall out of our heads.

Often things happen when they can no longer not happen, when what they were components of before releases them as they complete their gestations and plop out into being. Certainly with technology several discoveries seemed to emerge remotely at very similar times - like photography, like radio, electricity and quantum mechanics...

I have recently become quite interested in cuneiform - the Sumerian writing from 5000+ years ago - which became an inter-lingual script that subsequently led to more recognizable hieroglyphics as well as the more flexible phonetic alphabets (eg hebrew and greek).

Cuneiform as you might remember was made using triangular sticks pressed into wet clay.



I could say that I got into it inspired by this code cognizant thread, but no, it is because I am trying to visualize what it might have felt like to live in a city during the bronze age after eons of living in the stone age. But as I have been doing this investigation on and off for years, it just so happens that this thread about a mysterious script has come to light at this time and commenting is ongoing.

This may well be enough to let it fall into the synchronicity category, the fabled morphic resonance of things with similarity having a part to play in their creation or their coming together or becoming associated...

I probably should rewrite my brain theory stuff in cuneiform to give it a bit more of a pranamatic energy dimension, and some glistening laser polish.


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28404141 - 07/22/23 04:11 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

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Often things happen when they can no longer not happen, when what they were components of before releases them as they complete their gestations and plop out into being. Certainly with technology several discoveries seemed to emerge remotely at very similar times - like photography, like radio, electricity and quantum mechanics...





Agreed. When things are ready or needing to be expressed they will be expressed through someone or something. So let’s see who catches and rides the wave in first 🏄  cowabunga 🤙


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28404149 - 07/22/23 04:15 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

I've gotten very interested in cuneiform and hieroglyphs (and old writing systems and phonology in general) recently as well but you seem quite certain that hieroglyphs descend from cuneiform and I don't see the evidence. Greek is a useful reference point because the symbols haven't changed very much in a long time

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The Egyptians were once thought to have got the idea of writing from the Sumarians, but their system is now generally believed to have emerged independently, although the details of its origins remain mysterious.



A while back I tried mapping out historical relationships between phonemes and symbols. Some of it is conjecture but most of it is just me looking things up. It doesn't hurt that I had to learn the international phonetic alphabet in linguistics


You can actually chart a progression of vowel usage from the front of the mouth to the back of the mouth over time the same way you can predict progression of consonant use in human infants/toddlers. The scripts originally didn't have any symbols for vowels and you just kind of defaulted to whatever the culturally normal vowel was. And if you're familiar with babies you know that that sound is somewhere between the long a and the long e. Thus you ended up with eL and al respectively being the word for gods between promotosemitic and proto Ugaritic, which was essentially just another way of saying 'multiple things', since the gods were simply all the things around them (in animism). You see aniconism emerge from Ugarit which makes sense given the script they used, which was great for keeping ledgers but not for writing love letters. In Egypt the name of the prototype god is usually spelled Ra but Re is just as accurate, the specificity of the vowel sound legitimately 'didnt matter' as much. Much the oldest hieroglyphic texts amount to love letters- often straight up 'sexts'- from women of the court, to various gods.

One interesting thing about Greek is that they often just put the n sound next to the t sound in order to make what we would collapse into the d sound.

Thus anvtios -> adios (goodbye)


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted]
    #28404442 - 07/22/23 08:24 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

It seems to me that in Greek- Mycenaean, really- you see a coalescing of the cuneiform script with the curved logograms of ice age Europe. As you go south from Ugarit you start seeing curves appear in some of the words. These people likely developed systems independently. The cuneiform is interesting because it is systemized by simply lines and triangles and that seem at least a bit present in subsequent and surrounding scripts, but mostly if not only for quantity notation, but, at least with respect the oldest hieroglyphs, I see little to no evidence of cuneiform influence.

Aramaic and Mycenaean Greek are where you start seeing the clear very evidence of intermingling and symbol borrowing/streamlining


The proto Indo-Aryan script is fascinating because it seems to be the first systematized language that isn't imbued with grammatical gender (nouns being either masc or feminine, a remnant of the fact that originally the name for a god and the the thing they were 'in charge of' were the same; IE aten is the sun and the sun is literally the god.

Ζεύς and θεός (the word used for god the father in the Greek new testament) sound almost just alike. Abstraction of language took a huge leap forward around the time leading up to Plato but you can see that the 'neologisms' are usually hardly neologisms at all so much as SLIGHT variations on words. The difference showed up in the oral tradition first, so you basically had someone be like you've heard of Zeus, but really his name is Theos. This maps onto the story of Moses at mount horeb when God says his name is 'aeY' rather than 'aeL'. At the same time this 'changes' the word for, in essence, 'to be' from AeLae to AeYae. The change in letter amounts to depluralizing the word. The doubling is just an artifsct of the lack of vowel specificity/importance in those PIE descended languages prior to Mycenaean, in the same way when the Japanese borrow works in English they always append a vowel because Japanese words never end in consonants. You still see this 'Yae' meaning to be in the Spanish adverb 'ya' via Latin. But the OG proto-indo-european was just 'ye'. It didn't have 'a symbol', that varied, but that was the phonology.

Linear A is what we call the language of the Minoans and Mycenaean and it has Semitic (it Aramaic/Hebrew) roots. Mycenaean and then classical Greek followed

Really seems to me all cultures independently developed logograms relevant to their surroundings but trade and exposure to new things necessitated creation and use of increasingly abstract symbol sets. Cuneiform actually seems to have had little influence at all on today's writing systems, though its influence on numeral systems of the time seems obvious

In Latin vowel notation became strictly systematized but in English we've sort of reverted back to phonological system where we 'default to the schwa', and the other vowel sounds matter but you arent consistently notated


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted]
    #28404532 - 07/22/23 09:45 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

Multi-cultural hypercode :mindblown:


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    #28404598 - 07/22/23 10:43 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

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Multi-cultural hypercode :mindblown:




Quote by Franz Kafka: “All language is but a poor translation.”

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Philology within Bacon’s Program for the Reform of Learning
Bacon further connected his comparatist analyses to the reform of learning: the fact that, as Bacon noted further, each idiom has its own distinctive characteristics such as vocabulary, rhythmic and musical features, makes literal translations impossible. Therefore, translators like Michael Scot and Gerard of Cremona who, according to Bacon, in this sense were not absolutely proficient in the languages they translated from, corrupted important texts like Aristotle’s works as well as the Paris Vulgate (OT, ch. xxv, 91). Hence, what is needed are translators who were proficient enough in both scientific and linguistic skills – knowing the diversities of languages, their relationships, and the origins of words – to provide scholars with translations that meet scientific and linguistic standards. Thus, etymology was another important element in a diachronic analysis of languages, and Bacon sought to help his contemporaries, for example in regard to the pronunciation of foreign words, by providing them with lists of Hebrew and Greek words which had become Latin words (OGG, 133ff.).




Trimorphic Protennoia:
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Then the Son who is perfect in every respect - that is, the Word who originated through that Voice; who proceeded from the height; who has within him the Name; who is a Light - he (the Son) revealed the everlasting things and all the unknowns were known. And those things difficult to interpret and secret, he revealed, and as for those who dwell in Silence with the First Thought, he preached to them. And he revealed himself to those who dwell in darkness, and he showed himself to those who dwell in the abyss, and to those who dwell in the hidden treasuries he told ineffable mysteries, and he taught unrepeatable doctrines to all those who became Sons of the Light .

Now the Voice that originated from my Thought exists as three permanences: the Father, the Mother, the Son. Existing perceptibly as Speech, it (Voice) has within it a Word endowed with every <glory>, and it has three masculinities, three powers, and three names. [i]They exist in the manner of Three ¨ ¨ ¨ – which are quadrangles – secretly within a silence Of the Ineffable One...

MA MO O O O EIA EI ON EI!.
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They were the first to appear, exalted in their thought, and each Aeon gave myriads of glories within great untraceable lights and they all together blessed the Perfect Son, the God who was begotten...

Then there came forth a word from the great Light Eleleth and said, "I am King! Who belongs to Chaos and who belongs to the underworld?" And at that instant his Light appeared radiant, endowed with the Epinoia. The Powers of the Powers did not entreat him and likewise immediately there appeared the great Demon who rules over the lowest part of the underworld and Chaos. He has neither form nor perfection, but on the contrary possesses the form of the glory of those begotten in the darkness. Now he is called "Saklas," that is, "Samael," "Yaltabaoth," he who had taken power, who had snatched it away from the innocent one (Sophia); who had earlier overpowered her who is the Light's Epinoia (Sophia) who had descended, her from whom he (Yaltabaoth) had come forth originally...

Did we not hear you say,  'I am God [and I am] your Father 44  and it is I who [begot] you and there is no [other] beside me'? Now behold, there has appeared [a] Voice belonging to that invisible Speech of [the Aeon] (and) which we know not.

So now, O Sons of the Thought, listen to me, to the Speech of the Mother of your mercy, for you have become worthy of the mystery hidden from (the beginning of) the Aeons, so that [you might receive] it. And the consummation of this [particular] Aeon [and] of the evil life [has approached and there dawns 45 the] beginning of the Aeon to come] which [has no change forever]...


I am [the Word] who dwells [in the] ineffable [Voice].
I dwell in undefiled [Light]


Now behold [I will reveal] to you [my mysteries] since you are my fellow [brethren, and you shall] know them all [...]. 47 [...] [...] [...] [...] I [told all of them about my mysteries] that exist in [the incomprehensible], inexpressible [Aeons]. I taught [them the mysteries] through the [Voice that exists] within a perfect Intellect [and I] became a foundation for the All, and [I empowered] them.
The second time I came in the [Speech] of my Voice. I gave shape to those who [took] shape until their consummation.

am the Light that illumines the All. I am the Light that rejoices [in my] brethren, for I came down to the world [of] mortals on account of the Spirit that remains [in] that which [descended] (and) came forth [from] the innocent Sophia. I [came] and I delivered [...] and I [went] to 48 [...] [...] [...] [...] [...]






It's all in Plato, all in Plato! Bless me, what do they teach them in schools these days?
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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #28404826 - 07/23/23 05:17 AM (6 months, 2 days ago)

In this book:

Title: Mesopotamia
Authors: Britannica Educational Publishing
Published: Jul 2012
Publisher: Britannica Educational Publishing
Languages: English
Responsible for the first writing system and home to elaborate kingdoms and societies, Mesopotamia has been aptly labeled as the birthplace of the world’s first advanced civilizations. Although much remains unknown about the life and structure of Mesopotamia, the writings and artifacts left behind have shed elucidating light on a number of its significant developments and technological advances. This absorbing volume explores Sumer, Babylon, and the other early settlements that flourished in the enchanting land between the Tigris and Euphrates.


It explicitly said:
"Cuneiform was not a language. It was, like Egyptian hieroglyphics and the Chinese system of ideographs, or ideograms, a picture-writing system that used symbols. As the symbols gained acceptance throughout the Middle East, they could be understood by all ethnic groups even though the groups spoke different languages and dialects."

since it predates Egyptian hieroglyphics, and was widely used beyond the Sumerian lands, I assumed that it inspired the subsequent Hieroglyphic scripts.

Is there another, better authority for this historical mystery?


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28405263 - 07/23/23 01:14 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

Hmmm


I'm looking into it some more.  Some of these transformations from Ugaritic cuneiform to Greek alphabet make sense,  but looking at the Greek alphabet it seems clear to me that the southern Semitic script which shows no obvious resemblance to the northern semitic or Ugaritic.




Lists of Ugaritic letters (abecedaria, singular abecedarium) have been found in two alphabetic orders: the "Northern Semitic order" more similar to the one found in Phoenician, Hebrew and Arabic (the earlier, so-called ʾabjadī order), and more distantly, the Greek and Latin alphabets; and the "Southern Semitic order" more similar to the one found in the South Arabian, and the Ge'ez alphabets. The Ugaritic (U) letters are given in cuneiform and transcription, as well as in their Arabic (A), Hebrew (H), and Syriac (S) cognates;[14] letters missing from Hebrew are left blank.

North Semitic

U: 𐎀 𐎁 𐎂 𐎃 𐎄 𐎅 𐎆 𐎇 𐎈 𐎉 𐎊 𐎋 𐎌 𐎍 𐎎 𐎏 𐎐 𐎑 𐎒 𐎓 𐎔 𐎕 𐎖 𐎗 𐎘 𐎙 𐎚 𐎛 𐎜 𐎝
U: ʾa b g ḫ d h w z ḥ ṭ y k š l m ḏ n ẓ s ʿ p ṣ q r ṯ ġ t ʾi ʾu s2
A: أ ب ج خ د ه و ز ح ط ي ك ش ل م ذ ن ظ س ع ف ص ق ر ث غ ت ئ ؤ
H: א ב ג ד ה ו ז ח ט י כ שׁ ל מ נ ס ע פ צ ק ר ת
S: ܐ ܒ ܓ ܕ ܗ ܘ ܙ ܚ ܛ ܝ ܟ ܫ ܠ ܡ ܢ ܣ ܥ ܦ ܨ ܩ ܪ ܬ
South Semitic

U: 𐎅 𐎍 𐎈 𐎎 𐎖 𐎆 𐎌 𐎗 𐎚 𐎒 𐎋 𐎐 𐎃 𐎁 𐎔 𐎀 𐎓 𐎑 𐎂 𐎄 𐎙 𐎉 𐎇 𐎏 𐎊 𐎘 𐎕 [ 𐎛 𐎜 𐎝 ]
U: h l ḥ m q w š r t s k n ḫ b ś p ʾa ʿ ẓ g d ġ ṭ z ḏ y ṯ ṣ [ ʾi ʾu s2 ]
A: ه ل ح م ق و ش ر ت س ك ن خ ب ف أ ع ظ ج د غ ط ز ذ ي ث ص [ ئ ؤ ]
H: ה ל ח מ ק ו שׁ ר ת ס כ נ ב פ א ע ג ד ט ז י צ [ ]
S: ܗ ܠ ܚ ܡ ܩ ܘ ܫ ܪ ܬ ܣ ܟ ܢ ܒ ܦ ܐ ܥ


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted]
    #28405327 - 07/23/23 03:07 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

Idk to what extent this is relevant but the mention of priming and 'invisible pictures' seems to have some relevance. At first I was going to post it in your other thread but I decided to put it here instead. This is from 2020 though



https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31896031/

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It is debated whether the meaning of invisible pictures can be processed unconsciously. We tested whether pictures of animals or objects presented under backward masking or continuous flash suppression could prime the subsequent categorization of target words into animal or non-animal. In Experiment 1, the backward masking part failed to replicate the priming effect reported in two previous studies, despite sufficient statistical power (N = 59). Similarly, the continuous flash suppression part provided no evidence for a priming effect. In Experiment 2 (N = 65) we shortened the prime-target SOA from 290 ms to 90 ms, but again failed to obtain unconscious semantic priming under backward masking. Thus, our study did not provide evidence for unconscious semantic processing of pictures. These findings support the emerging view that unconscious processing is rather limited in scope




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Even when the images were presented for the briefest periods of time, and the participants failed to recognize their contents, their brain activity patterns contained enough information for the researchers to classify the images as animate versus inanimate objects. In other words, unconscious processing contained meaningful information about the images, which became accessible to higher-level stages of processing.

The authors say that their findings, which are published in the journal Nature Human Behavior, suggest that mental representations of conscious and unconscious information overlap in some regions of the visual pathway, and also that they suggest global workspace theories of consciousness need to be revised.






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    #28405340 - 07/23/23 03:28 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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Here's a little bit about Quantum Information:

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Quantum information science aims to explore the nature of information at the quantum level, a world in which bits can be both zero and one at the same time and perfect copying is impossible.



https://sitp.stanford.edu/research/quantum-information

But yeah, as you said, quantum information is information about/within quantum effects, particles and phenomena. Its theorized in quantum physics that quantum information is contained in all quantum-based particles such as photons for example and this information can be theoretically observed/extracted.

Its very similar to computer code, which all software is written in. We see/interact with the software, but behind the software is computer code. This concept is applied to quantum mechanics:

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When two good things get together, they can create something even better. That’s the case with quantum information—the marriage of quantum physics and computing theory. The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) has contributed to much of its history and is helping to shape its future.



https://www.nist.gov/content/history-and-future-quantum-information

So when you smoke DMT and look at something quantum, such as a Laser Pattern, perhaps you are observing the quantum information (lightcode) that "runs" or describes the laser light particles interpreted by Human consciousness on DMT.





A central requirement for quantum-processing is quantum entanglement. It is argued that the enzyme catalyzed chemical reaction which breaks a pyrophosphate ion into two phosphate ions can quantum entangle pairs of qubits. Posner molecules, formed by binding such phosphate pairs with extracellular calcium ions, will inherit the nuclear spin entanglement.....

In the presence of lithium however the molecule can readily bind lithium in the relevant position ,rather than calcium, and time to decoherence is much greater. This potentially explains why lithium is affected in what we call bipolar disorder and why there is a relationship between how much naturally occurring lithium there is and how mentally stable the average citizen is. from an intuitive and speculative level it makes sense that lithium would be more stable than calcium simple because it is element 3 rather than 20. Calcium in that position is more readily displaced from the molecule


https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321124861_Posner_molecules_From_atomic_structure_to_nuclear_spins

Originally it was thought that these molecules needed to exist in trimers for sustained coherence of entanglement but a new paper shows that the dimer configuration actually is more efficacious.


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A large and growing body of research shows that weak magnetic fields can significantly influence various
biological systems, including plants, animals, and humans. However, the underlying mechanisms behind
these phenomena remain elusive. It is remarkable that the magnetic energies implicated in these
effects are much smaller than thermal energies. Here we review these observations, of which there are
now hundreds, and we suggest that a viable explanation is provided by the radical pair mechanism,
which involves the quantum dynamics of the electron and nuclear spins of naturally occurring transient
radical molecules. While the radical pair mechanism has been studied in detail in the context of avian
magnetoreception, the studies reviewed here show that magnetosensitivity is widespread throughout
biology. We review magnetic field effects on various physiological functions, organizing them based on
the type of the applied magnetic fields, namely static, hypomagnetic, and oscillating magnetic fields, as
well as isotope effects. We then review the radical pair mechanism as a potential unifying model for the
described magnetic field effects, and we discuss plausible candidate molecules that might constitute
the radical pairs. We review recent studies proposing that the quantum nature of the radical pairs
provides promising explanations for xenon anesthesia, lithium effects on hyperactivity, magnetic field and
lithium effects on the circadian clock, and hypomagnetic field effects on neurogenesis and microtubule
assembly. We conclude by discussing future lines of investigation in this exciting new area of quantum
biology related to weak magnetic field effects.






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Fisahn has modelled the dynamics of clusters of water molecules within single plant cells and found that daily variations in gravity caused by the Moon’s orbit would be enough to cause a net loss or gain of water molecules from the cell.

“The volume of water molecules – even if it is in the nano-range – will respond to any tiny gravitational change,” he says. “As a consequence, there will be movement of water molecules through water channels, meaning water will move from inside the cell towards the outside or vice versa, depending on the direction of the gravitational force – and this could have an effect on the whole organism.



Even supposedly small changes in the gravitational pull of the moon on the Earth will warp the electromagnetic field significantly enough to alter membrane permeability.

So basically you seem to be saying that you are seeing some sort of representation of qubits. I am not sure.

The most significant Moon of this year will be on August 30th. Blue supermoon. If I'm working I'll let you know if the already unstable are acting even more unstable than normal. The fact that we're constantly bombarded with so many different kinds of electromagnetic fields now makes trying to study the effect of something like the Moon systematically extremely hard if not impossible to do. Maybe if you left a bunch of people inside of a faraday cage for a long stretch of time you could try to control but even then... Idk


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #28405554 - 07/23/23 07:42 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

https://www.amazon.com/Empires-Word-Language-History-World/dp/0060935723

I need to reread this book. It's been like a decade. I just remembered that it was extremely scholastic and well-referenced and filled in a lot of the gaps that I'm having trouble piecing together from various semi-conflicting sources


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted]
    #28405587 - 07/23/23 07:59 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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A central requirement for quantum-processing is quantum entanglement...




Oh come on, even if you are not into quantum mechanics, a cursory google search will show you this is not true. I think the AI implementation you are using is hallucinating.


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: Kiwi89]
    #28405626 - 07/23/23 08:25 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

Take it up with fisher. I didn't write it. It's from the article in the following link on Posner molecules and transmembrane entanglement. I don't know how you're interpreting the term processing but quantum computers do indeed entangle particles to generate qubits and the quantum computing race is to basically increase processing power via increasing qubits. Idk wtf you're reading but simply because a something happens at the quantum doesn't mean it makes sense to call it information processing. More accurate to say it has the potential to be become information


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted]
    #28405652 - 07/23/23 08:41 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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morrowasted said: Idk wtf you're reading but simply because a something happens at the quantum doesn't mean it makes sense to call it information processing.




Quantum Phase Estimation: Estimates the phase of an eigenvector of a unitary operator without requiring entangled states.

Quantum Random Walks:Probability distributions on graphs and can be implemented without entanglement.

Quantum Search Algorithms: such as Grover's algorithm, do not need entanglement to achieve speedup over classical search.

Quantum Fourier Transform: This is a key component in many quantum algorithms, including Shor's algorithm, and can be performed without creating entangled states.

Quantum Simulations: In certain cases, quantum simulations of physical systems can be carried out without explicit entanglement.

Quantum Error Correction: Quantum error correction codes can protect quantum information from errors and noise without using entangled states.

Quantum Communication Protocols: Some quantum communication protocols, like quantum key distribution using the BB84 protocol, do not rely on entanglement.


Quantum Variational Algorithms: Variational quantum algorithms, such as the Variational Quantum Eigensolver (VQE), often use parameterized quantum circuits without explicit entanglement.

And the list goes on, but do not let that stop you.


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    #28405660 - 07/23/23 08:51 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimpton_322

Now this catches my attention. Pythagorean triples listed on a cuneiform tablet from over a millennium prior to greeks golden age. Maybe cuneiform was more determinative of Greek semiotics than I thought. I wasn't aware of this either:

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The popular modern image of Pythagoras is that of a master mathematician and scientist. The early evidence shows, however, that, while Pythagoras was famous in his own day and even 150 years later in the time of Plato and Aristotle, it was not mathematics or science upon which his fame rested. Pythagoras was famous (1) as an expert on the fate of the soul after death, who thought that the soul was immortal and went through a series of reincarnations; (2) as an expert on religious ritual; (3) as a wonder-worker who had a thigh of gold and who could be two places at the same time; (4) as the founder of a strict way of life that emphasized dietary restrictions, religious ritual and rigorous self discipline.



https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pythagoras/

I'm looking into modular arithmetic and addic numbers. Fascinating, especially the part about mod 3 addic mumbers. Sorry for tangents



Tesla was notoriously obsessed with "3" and obviously cognates of the christian Trinity exist throughout ancient mythos


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    #28405668 - 07/23/23 09:03 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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morrowasted said: Idk wtf you're reading but simply because a something happens at the quantum doesn't mean it makes sense to call it information processing.




Quantum Phase Estimation: Estimates the phase of an eigenvector of a unitary operator without requiring entangled states.

Quantum Random Walks:Probability distributions on graphs and can be implemented without entanglement.

Quantum Search Algorithms: such as Grover's algorithm, do not need entanglement to achieve speedup over classical search.

Quantum Fourier Transform: This is a key component in many quantum algorithms, including Shor's algorithm, and can be performed without creating entangled states.

Quantum Simulations: In certain cases, quantum simulations of physical systems can be carried out without explicit entanglement.

Quantum Error Correction: Quantum error correction codes can protect quantum information from errors and noise without using entangled states.

Quantum Communication Protocols: Some quantum communication protocols, like quantum key distribution using the BB84 protocol, do not rely on entanglement.


Quantum Variational Algorithms: Variational quantum algorithms, such as the Variational Quantum Eigensolver (VQE), often use parame.terized quantum circuits without explicit entanglement.

And the list goes on, but do not let that stop you.



Okay, legs say 'meaningful information'. If you want to describe any state change that happens as an information processing event you can do that but if so we need to disambiguate types of information. This is already done in information Theory (IE Shannon information). Terrence Deacon further characterizes meaningful information as Shannon information + boltzmann entropy and significant information as the prior to coupled with selective pressures in the Darwinian sense.




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    #28405669 - 07/23/23 09:04 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

An easy way to think about it is if you think of the entire cosmos as consisting of nothing but a string of threes than none of the threes contain information, no matter how many there are or how you rearrange them


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted]
    #28405708 - 07/23/23 09:44 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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Okay, legs say 'meaningful information'.




Oh really now, care to address why the implementation of any of the processes I posted would not yield meaningful information.


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