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OfflineMicrobeman
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Poppy seeds infertile?
    #28380292 - 06/30/23 03:12 PM (6 months, 26 days ago)

First post here and first experience with poppy seeds not germinating. I planted seeds from some pods which matured in my yard. They were blue/black. Almost every one germinated. I grew the 2nd generation outside to maturity like I've done countless times. The seeds came out mostly red. Surprised. Some blackish. None germinated. I tried several times; red and blackish. Has anyone got a clue why this would occur?


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Re: Poppy seeds infertile? [Re: Microbeman]
    #28381419 - 07/01/23 01:41 PM (6 months, 25 days ago)

What stage of development were the seed pods when you collected them what was your seed collecting method?


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Re: Poppy seeds infertile? [Re: Longtimenosee]
    #28383334 - 07/03/23 08:42 AM (6 months, 23 days ago)

I always wait for the pods to mature and dry before harvesting. As mentioned I am very experienced at this - over 30 years. This is the first time experiencing this.


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Re: Poppy seeds infertile? [Re: Microbeman]
    #28383880 - 07/03/23 03:50 PM (6 months, 23 days ago)

Hum? My only guess is lack of pollination.


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Re: Poppy seeds infertile? [Re: Longtimenosee]
    #28384574 - 07/04/23 09:03 AM (6 months, 22 days ago)

A pollination problem is also my thought. It is very strange since they are self-pollinators in addition to cross pollinating. There were also bees, flies and predator wasps around.(curiously a bee expired in a blossom; no chemicals used} 

One thing I did not consider is over watering. A friend was watering the patch for me, as they were on a separate property. I just read a paper, stating over watering potentially causing non-viability of pollen. The result in the paper is absence of seeds but perhaps another effect can be infertile seeds. [The specific abiotic and biotic damage of poppy (Papaver somniferum) — a review ]


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