|
Anonymous #1
|
Sponsors selling LC in US?
#28352410 - 06/08/23 05:28 PM (7 months, 16 days ago) |
|
|
I was looking for some new spores and thought to myself I’d first check some sponsors as they’re probably decently vetted. Clicked some of the ones that clearly included the US (where I reside, and presumably the sponsor, given the package tracking history) in the shipping description. Found some interesting strains, add to cart, checkout, get tracking, package delivered. What I didn’t notice when buying or browsing is that some of the items were LC syringes, not spore syringes like I had assumed and just didn’t notice.
I don’t have any ideological problem with this, and I’m not so up to date on things as to be 100% sure that LC isn’t legal in the US, but at least that was my previous understanding. I even read a post at one point about shroomery canceling a sponsor over exactly this, selling LC in the US, which is partially why it never crossed my mind to think twice about the syringes I ordered.
Again, I have no personal or ideological problem, but it’s a little disturbing to read the policy is one thing, the reality is another, and so easily make a mistake on my end (I fully take responsibility for reading the description as carefully as I should have when purchasing). I’m at a point in life, my own family with young children, where I have too much to lose to play games with the legal system.
So, 1) is LC legal now in the US? 2) is Shroomery ok with all this? (If not, please clearly state this and work something out with offending sponsors, a post from 2020-2021 says the site is not OK with this)
Naturally, I immediately disposed of the LC syringes.
No, I don’t want to name the exact sponsor publicly.
|
Ythan
ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ


Registered: 08/08/97
Posts: 18,774
Loc: NY/MA/VT Borderlands
Last seen: 8 minutes, 37 seconds
|
|
Yes, the Shroomery has started accepting sponsors who sell liquid cultures. We also now allow liquid cultures to be traded in the Marketplace, assuming they are made with a non-nutritive medium. We changed our policy after a sponsor presented evidence that under the right conditions, liquid cultures can be produced which have no trace of psilocin or psilocybin as determined by a DEA-accredited laboratory. Also, given the recent progress towards psychedelic legalization in the US, and the more pressing opiate issue, we feel the risk of someone being investigated due to liquid cultures is currently very low.
However, at the end of the day, we made the decision based on our own perceived liability. We don't think it'll be a problem for us (the admins) or the website itself, so we're allowing it. Whether or not you want to accept the risk for yourself is something only you can decide. Our sponsors are confident they can produce liquid cultures in a legally-compliant manner, but if you were somehow to send or receive one that contains detectable levels of a controlled substance, you could technically still be breaking the law.
|
Anonymous #2
|
Re: Sponsors selling LC in US? [Re: Ythan]
#28357853 - 06/13/23 12:36 AM (7 months, 12 days ago) |
|
|
What about selling plates? I've seen some big names selling plates recently with those bulbous nodules that have started to darken. Can they do that just because it is decriminalized in their city or do the plates actually test 0.0? Can I give away some wedges on the marketplace, or is that a bad idea?
|
Anonymous #3
|
|
at your own risk it sounds like... similar to speeding...
|
Anonymous #2
|
|
I want to know if I'm speeding tho! Do plates test negative? Nobody has ever gotten a speeding ticket for sending spores. If it is okay to send a wedge, then tell me so, if it ain't, I don't want to fuck around and find out.
|
Anonymous #4
|
Re: Sponsors selling LC in US? [Re: Anonymous #1] 1
#28360044 - 06/14/23 06:54 PM (7 months, 10 days ago) |
|
|
The laws about psychedelics and what qualifies as legal and illegal and what they will do if they catch you is really hard to quantify, in my experience. In part of a group that operates pretty openly, and we are partially headed by an attorney. It isnt an easy question and the climate is weird, similar to how it was as cannabis became more acceptable.
But where cannabis is legal in some states, in others people are still serving sentences and in others they can have a card that says they can use it but get busted for not buying it from one a dispensary that charges four to ten times what they can buy from someone they know or get growing it themselves.
This is gonna be a hard question well past decriminalized use or legalization. Ultimately, it is a matter of fuck around and you might find out. How important is it to you to do the fucking around part?
If the answer is "very" then you have to decide what risk you are willing to take. But the chances of you getting popped for buying a couple LCs in a world where we have people dropping daily from fent seems unrealistic, even if they wanted to set an example.
|
Anonymous #5
|
|
I really REALLY... like this subject because it scrapes the blurred lines of whats really going on with the changes in the policy landscapes.
So heres what I have to add...
In my state or area "Syringe" means bad, wierd, illegal, ju ju. Like even though spores are legal in my state, I would be nervous about them discovering and attempting to prosecute over the syringe itsself because its a normal charge around these parts. I use an in state vendor to really really cut down on the amount of hands that touch my package pertaining spores... Its a level 6 felony, (syringe) Even though it would be fightable because its classified as an agriculture syringe. And these are actually sold locally at our TSC tractor supply. But depending county ro county even...shit can get fuedal with LE in good ol boy states. So what im saying here... is if you take any pokies out of the equation, and pair with other layers of op sec there might be a 0 to negligible chance of anything ever happening.
Im talking mis labeling, no syringe, USPS shipping to a address likely to not be flagged ever for other bs. Keeping it small. More local the better. All general opsec related to shipping packages.
I am actually working on some actions using these principles to ship delta 8... cough cough real cannabis from my legal neighbor. Skewing labeling and other general mail op sec paired with quanity control to bring the highest possible charge below felony levels to further discourage enforcement in leau of funding and enforcement priority. If a package were to get ripped open...
Theres alot of factors an layers you can create for insurance or demise. I think plates could really be played off as some random shit if packed right. Same goes for other sealables, liquid or otherwise. Presentation is just another layer. Only you and who you are buying from can decide what and how many layers of protection to use. But I do plan on purchasing live genetics, out-grow has these culture tubes that were pretty dope for med eddies and shoukd be easily concealable or manipulated as to the content.
Theres a lot of angles to this. Its not that ballsy. If you live in a rough area for drug laws put up more barriers for prosecution on your package. If you live in oregon lol fucking ship the farm.
Edited by Anonymous (06/19/23 08:47 PM)
|
Anonymous #6
|
|
It's definitely fuck around and find out.
Pigs are notoriously shitty people. Don't ever think that just because everyone else got away with it you won't be charged, prosecuted and locked up for an absurd amount of time for something stupid if you piss the wrong pig off.
Btw did I throw a fuck the police in there? Yes, fuck the police, fuck them right in their whore pig mouth.
|
|