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Re: The art of shredding [Re: Yahra]
    #28376655 - 06/27/23 03:03 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Lol this explains soooo much...



Care to elaborate on the consequences using a too large container?

Is it longer colonization time? What else?



Waste of materials and also the reason it looks too wet.


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Re: The art of shredding [Re: The Tao]
    #28376778 - 06/27/23 04:54 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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You inoculated 5 BRF cakes with LC 4 weeks ago and the best jar is only more than half colonized?




Yeah, and the others are way slower.  They look clean, just slow af.


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Re: The art of shredding [Re: starvinghooker]
    #28376786 - 06/27/23 05:01 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Oh, new question.  I used the skinny jelly jars (mistake). With those being tall, should I lay them down?

Also, just a silly thought...
Since I have 5 jars at varying levels of myc, what do yall think about placing the best ones in the center with the lesser ones around the edges?
*Note* two of them are barely colonized (spots about the size of a nickel at injection sites)


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Re: The art of shredding [Re: starvinghooker]
    #28376791 - 06/27/23 05:09 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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starvinghooker said:
Oh, new question.  I used the skinny jelly jars (mistake). With those being tall, should I lay them down?

Also, just a silly thought...
Since I have 5 jars at varying levels of myc, what do yall think about placing the best ones in the center with the lesser ones around the edges?
*Note* two of them are barely colonized (spots about the size of a nickel at injection sites)



They need to be fully colonized before burying.


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Re: The art of shredding [Re: SirPsycho]
    #28376945 - 06/27/23 07:05 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Can you post a picture? Did you make the LC? Did you make the jars? Wide mouth half pints from a multispore should be close to colonized by 4 weeks. An LC should be more advanced.
Any tape over the holes or foil on top?

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Re: The art of shredding [Re: SirPsycho]
    #28377102 - 06/27/23 08:58 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Oh, new question.  I used the skinny jelly jars (mistake). With those being tall, should I lay them down?

Also, just a silly thought...
Since I have 5 jars at varying levels of myc, what do yall think about placing the best ones in the center with the lesser ones around the edges?
*Note* two of them are barely colonized (spots about the size of a nickel at injection sites)



They need to be fully colonized before burying.




Well, then this kinda takes me back to my original question lol.  Basically I was trying to ask what to do if I get tired of waiting, like is it ok to say fuck it and just shred the colonized parts to bulk.  At this rate, it would have to be quicker than  waiting for full colonization.


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Re: The art of shredding [Re: The Tao]
    #28377110 - 06/27/23 09:04 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Can you post a picture? Did you make the LC? Did you make the jars? Wide mouth half pints from a multispore should be close to colonized by 4 weeks. An LC should be more advanced.
Any tape over the holes or foil on top?





Just regular half pints built to spec per the original BRF tek video.  No tape, verm layer on top.  LC was from a vendor, no real problems til this one, but I'm thinking it's me.  The shroom gods or jist a bad day.

I realize they should be colonized, hence my op.  I made three more jars with the remaining LC about 10 days and they have surpased the first five.  I got nothing on this one.  Only difference is the jars...the first 5 are the tall jelly, the 3 are the short wides.


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Re: The art of shredding [Re: starvinghooker]
    #28377132 - 06/27/23 09:27 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

You made the jars so you’ll know what shape they were in. You bought the LC so that’s a question mark. You’re not posting pictures and there are no jars in your gallery.
Put them off to the side and watch what happens. If your wide half pints are outperforming the tall half pints using the same LC then the problem could be the tall jars or the BRF prep.
Again, 4 weeks for BRF cakes from an LC when a spore syringe grow would be close to done?
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Re: The art of shredding [Re: The Tao]
    #28377358 - 06/28/23 05:47 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Yeah, it could be either the jars or the prep.  I've never thought it could take so long.  I did some PE that was covered and consolidated in 19 days, so...?

This is my first time using the tall jars, and it's totally thrown me off using them again.  They'll make nice storage jars 😁


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Re: The art of shredding [Re: starvinghooker]
    #28377387 - 06/28/23 06:34 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

If patience isnt your strong suit, then this hobby isnt the one for you :P. I would use a sharpie and trace the perimeter of where things have colonized, see if the colonization has continued in 2-3 days, if it hasnt moved and has stalled, then i may consider removing the uncolonized section and burying it, but the likely hood of that not contaminating is very low. Its hard to tell what part of the cake in the centre isnt colonized. In all honesty if it stalled, i would personally start again @_@

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Re: The art of shredding [Re: Pandaskis]
    #28377403 - 06/28/23 07:00 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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If patience isnt your strong suit, then this hobby isnt the one for you :P. I would use a sharpie and trace the perimeter of where things have colonized, see if the colonization has continued in 2-3 days, if it hasnt moved and has stalled, then i may consider removing the uncolonized section and burying it, but the likely hood of that not contaminating is very low. Its hard to tell what part of the cake in the centre isnt colonized. In all honesty if it stalled, i would personally start again @_@




I did the marker thing a while and they're definitely spreading.  They've never stopped, just very slow.

Patience isn't a problem; having 4 week-old brf jars that are only half colonized is.  My PE went from LCS to pins in that amount of time.


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Re: The art of shredding [Re: starvinghooker]
    #28377407 - 06/28/23 07:06 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I mean if its spreading i would just keep waiting, and maybe start a new project? :shrug:

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Re: The art of shredding [Re: Pandaskis]
    #28377466 - 06/28/23 08:09 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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I mean if its spreading i would just keep waiting, and maybe start a new project? :shrug:




Yeah, I feel that.  I do have other things coming up behind it.  I guess I just freaked a bit because I hadn't heard of it taking this long before.  The slow growth had me suspicious but everything looks healthy so I'm :shrug: too lol


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Re: The art of shredding [Re: starvinghooker]
    #28377474 - 06/28/23 08:13 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

The taller jars tend to stall, but if its going slow, it may be the way you prepped your brf cakes. What tek did you use?

I wouldnt turn your jars side ways youll compromise your dry verm layer. Do you have any pics?

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Re: The art of shredding [Re: Pandaskis]
    #28377486 - 06/28/23 08:21 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Yeah, it has to be something I did, just can't think of what.  I'm still noobin' around so it's all learning experience at this point.

Sorry, no pics.  I can tell ya that the growth is similar to the spread you'd see in a grain jar, instead of the circular, rhizo growth I've usually had with brf.  I'm thinking maybe something bacterial has it slowed down despite not having any other real signs of it.


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Re: The art of shredding [Re: starvinghooker]
    #28377490 - 06/28/23 08:24 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Yeah, it has to be something I did, just can't think of what.  I'm still noobin' around so it's all learning experience at this point.

Sorry, no pics.  I can tell ya that the growth is similar to the spread you'd see in a grain jar, instead of the circular, rhizo growth I've usually had with brf.  I'm thinking maybe something bacterial has it slowed down despite not having any other real signs of it.




Most bacteria is slowed to a halt on BRF, the granular structure of the mixture stops the spread of bacteria. What ratio did you do your BRF mix, whos tek did you use?

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Re: The art of shredding [Re: Pandaskis]
    #28377830 - 06/28/23 01:19 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Yeah, it has to be something I did, just can't think of what.  I'm still noobin' around so it's all learning experience at this point.

Sorry, no pics.  I can tell ya that the growth is similar to the spread you'd see in a grain jar, instead of the circular, rhizo growth I've usually had with brf.  I'm thinking maybe something bacterial has it slowed down despite not having any other real signs of it.




Most bacteria is slowed to a halt on BRF, the granular structure of the mixture stops the spread of bacteria. What ratio did you do your BRF mix, whos tek did you use?




I used the original recipe from the Let's Grow video, 2:1:1.

Imma see if I can't take a bit from one of the smaller jars and throw it on agar.  It'll take a while, but maybe it'll show something I'm not seeing in the jars.


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