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Natalensis overlay or funny genetics? * 1
    #28375105 - 06/26/23 11:12 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Friendly greetings all

Recently started growing and I am enjoying it thoroughly. I have this tub going, it is Burma cubensis but is behaving like Natalensis with wicked overlay.

No signs of pinning after three weeks though I do see very small mycelial knots.

The white fluffy flesh you see is quite potent, I would compare it to APE's.

Any thoughts?





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Re: Natalensis overlay or funny genetics? [Re: Shroom Shame]
    #28375107 - 06/26/23 11:14 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

If thats cube mycelium than it looks pretty bacterial to me :shrug: , what are your grow conditions like?  Temp, hows it getting FAE, E.C.T.

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Re: Natalensis overlay or funny genetics? [Re: Pandaskis] * 3
    #28375126 - 06/26/23 11:26 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

hey look somebody else is growing cheese lasagna. Join the club.

What do you mean the "white fluffy flesh" is potent? are you eating the mycelium with a spoon?


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Re: Natalensis overlay or funny genetics? [Re: altford78] * 2
    #28375133 - 06/26/23 11:30 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Re: Natalensis overlay or funny genetics? [Re: Pandaskis]
    #28375135 - 06/26/23 11:31 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Aha! That might be

19 degrees Celsius

Passive FAE through gaps between lid and tub, I fan out once a day.

I lightly mist once every 2 - 3 days, depending on how dry the myc is getting.

With this specific tub I went 50/50 on grain spawn and substrate.

What would be the best way to avoid bacterial contamination would you say?


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Re: Natalensis overlay or funny genetics? [Re: altford78]
    #28375137 - 06/26/23 11:33 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Nah g, I am cutting the entire cake like a birthday cake and eating the chunks.

Just kidding, the white fluff you see is not fluff. It is solid mushroom flesh that bruises blue, I "harvested" near 30 g of it, it comes off the substrate as easily as mushrooms do


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Re: Natalensis overlay or funny genetics? [Re: Shroom Shame]
    #28375150 - 06/26/23 11:42 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

pics of the harvested stuff?


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Re: Natalensis overlay or funny genetics? [Re: altford78] * 1
    #28375160 - 06/26/23 11:48 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Of course

Here is a close-up photo, please let me know if it isn't clear enough.



Please don't comment on the bits of choir still stuck to it, I eat that shit too *chefs kiss*


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Re: Natalensis overlay or funny genetics? [Re: Shroom Shame]
    #28375170 - 06/26/23 11:57 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Shroom Shame said:
Aha! That might be

19 degrees Celsius

Passive FAE through gaps between lid and tub, I fan out once a day.

I lightly mist once every 2 - 3 days, depending on how dry the myc is getting.

With this specific tub I went 50/50 on grain spawn and substrate.

What would be the best way to avoid bacterial contamination would you say?




Quit fanning, and some of those water droplets look very big. Not sure if youll get fruits from this, maybe keep it around and start on a new project?

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Re: Natalensis overlay or funny genetics? [Re: Pandaskis]
    #28375203 - 06/26/23 12:17 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Thank you, I will try these steps, as well as drain the tubs from those droplets.

Do you perhaps have any extra advice for me concerning bacteria in my grain jars?
I have a pressure cooker


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Re: Natalensis overlay or funny genetics? [Re: Shroom Shame]
    #28375211 - 06/26/23 12:21 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Need a bit more info.

What grain are you using, how are you prepping it. How are you inoculating them? What kind of lid does your jar use e.c.t

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Re: Natalensis overlay or funny genetics? [Re: Pandaskis]
    #28375217 - 06/26/23 12:27 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I am using rye.

I boil them for 30 minutes to hydrate them, then I pressure cook them for 90 minutes in the jars.

Forgot to mention, I inoculate via liquid culture syringes and agar to grain.

Here is the photos of my jars:





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Re: Natalensis overlay or funny genetics? [Re: Shroom Shame] * 2
    #28375234 - 06/26/23 12:45 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I have z-strain which has been cleaned on agar to t5 which does something like this. They still fruit though, took a couple weeks I think. It gets a lot worse than this too, I'll upload a recent picture later.

You could try & flip your sub as that has initiated fruiting for me in the past when I was extra impatient. Last resort though I'd say.




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Re: Natalensis overlay or funny genetics? [Re: stockw]
    #28375267 - 06/26/23 01:11 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the input stockw, I will give it an extra week an try that.

I am growing Z-strain as well, I love it.

Here is another funny picture of my King Oyster mushrooms doing the same thing



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Re: Natalensis overlay or funny genetics? [Re: Shroom Shame] * 1
    #28375269 - 06/26/23 01:12 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Re: Natalensis overlay or funny genetics? [Re: Pandaskis]
    #28375306 - 06/26/23 01:31 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Thanks for trying to help anyways panda man.

Trial and error, I will continue to try all I can:heart:


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Re: Natalensis overlay or funny genetics? [Re: Shroom Shame] * 1
    #28375334 - 06/26/23 01:53 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

While I can't say for sure what's going on with that tub, this may be a thread of interest.

Edit: I should also ask two questions based on what you said about PCing and inoculation. Are you following the entire PC procedure including venting? And did you test the LC on agar?


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Re: Natalensis overlay or funny genetics? [Re: MethodicalMystical]
    #28375352 - 06/26/23 02:06 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Thank you, I will check it out.

Venting?
I am unfamiliar, oh boy I missed something really important didn't I:confused:

I did yes, very mixed results, some don't take at all, and leave a brown splotch where I dropped the LC on the agar


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Re: Natalensis overlay or funny genetics? [Re: Shroom Shame]
    #28375398 - 06/26/23 02:40 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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Thank you, I will check it out.

Venting?
I am unfamiliar, oh boy I missed something really important didn't I:confused:

I did yes, very mixed results, some don't take at all, and leave a brown splotch where I dropped the LC on the agar




You want to let your PC vent steam for about 10-15min before bringing it up to pressure, otherwise the pc doesnt come up to the correct temperature to sterilize your grains

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Re: Natalensis overlay or funny genetics? [Re: Pandaskis]
    #28375420 - 06/26/23 02:50 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I will try doing this as well, though my PC has a vent that stops spewing steam after about 15 minutes automatically, then it starts pushing against the weight


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