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deadmandave
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Re: LIONS MANE could be extremely dangerous! [Re: dna24]
#28381773 - 07/01/23 07:49 PM (6 months, 24 days ago) |
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You have to find the source of the bad reaction.
If it's an allergy it's all on you.
If it's poorly prepared food it's the restaurant.
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Glomus
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Re: LIONS MANE could be extremely dangerous! [Re: deadmandave]
#28381945 - 07/01/23 11:56 PM (6 months, 24 days ago) |
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Could you post the study that suggests that? I can't find anything about that on google. Just says the neuro compounds are found in the fruiting bodies and the mycelium. Which is typically the case will all mushroom compounds but the fruiting body is more potent. I only said that companies that grow for their supplements only using mycelium are not only not as potent, but the fact they are growing from mycelium shows they are just growing as fast and cheaply as possible, not to mention what methods that are being used to separate the mycelium from the grain or substrate or what every they are using.
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Glomus
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Re: LIONS MANE could be extremely dangerous! [Re: seagu]
#28381951 - 07/02/23 12:01 AM (6 months, 24 days ago) |
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I hear you and that seems to be a fair stance, I was really just saying that so that people that don't know they are having a bad reaction to lions mane can stop taking it as to not further their exposure.
Eating peas is one thing, but this is a mushroom that is medicinal and has compounds in it that effect your brain chemistry. This is why drug commercials have a laundry list of possible side effects that they are legally obligated to disclose to all even though those side effects could be extremely rare and affect a very small fraction of people.
As far as the FDA and EPA goes they are absolutely corrupt, not evil, but corrupt no doubt. But they do serve a function. I would go as far as to say the entire US government is corrupt and controlled by the Military industrial complex and pharmaceutical, agriculture and chemical manufacturing corporations.
Edited by Glomus (07/02/23 12:14 AM)
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Glomus
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Re: LIONS MANE could be extremely dangerous! [Re: deadmandave]
#28381968 - 07/02/23 12:32 AM (6 months, 24 days ago) |
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Ok I found that erinacines, not hericenones, are found in both the fruiting bodies and mycelium but erinacines was more potent in the mycelium. I also read somewhere that the mycelium is lacking the Hericenones. The fruiting bodies also have 29 times more beta glucans then the mycelium
Another thing that could be worth mentioning is these extracts of mycelium could vary greatly in their process and or quality control. What solvents are being used to extract and what could be coming out with it in the substrates and such. I'd imagine there is profits in cutting those types of corners. Also if the extracts aren't being regularly tested for potency they could vary wildly in concentration of these compounds. Extracts in general, even natural products, are taking something and altering it to a form that would not naturally occur in nature.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21501201003735556
Edited by Glomus (07/03/23 03:54 PM)
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Re: LIONS MANE could be extremely dangerous! [Re: deadmandave]
#28395255 - 07/14/23 10:41 AM (6 months, 12 days ago) |
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Quote:
deadmandave said: There is research indicating the mycelium of lions mane is the only part containing the compound (herinaceum?) That improves neurological functioning. Often times the mycelium contains most all of the same components as the mushrooms.
Where is this research? I've heard Stamets defenders talk about it, but I've never seen receipts.
Not that it doesn't exist, I just haven't seen it and am curious.
Do you have a link or know roughly when something like that was published?
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