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Offlineblu3
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Re: New York times Fact checks Moore [Re: Bush2004]
    #2844511 - 06/30/04 07:51 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Bush2004 said:
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afoaf said:
can you point me to any source that can prove
that Moore has lied about the points he makes
in the movie, Mr. McBitterson?




Try this

http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/

and another

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39079

Keep admiring this guy. He obviously has no problem with the actions of Hezbollah. I guess he has no problem with organizations that want to kill every Jew on the planet.






I read both of those articals neither one of them said he or his fim were in acurate. The first one *implied* the film was untruthful with the quote "To describe this film as dishonest and demagogic would almost be to promote those terms to the level of respectability."

In the second artical also does not prove anything moore stated to be false eaither.
Both articals are opinion and not factual.
Try again!


Sir, if you have ever taken the time to read his books or watch his movies you will be able to easily back up the fact by simply searching google. I'll admit I have not taken the time to do that will all his works but I did fact check about 90% of Stupid White Men


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Re: New York times Fact checks Moore [Re: blu3]
    #2844552 - 06/30/04 07:59 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

exactly, no one seems to be able to show me
where his facts or claims are off.

the best I've seen is some griping about editing
the NRA rallies to seem exponentially more
menacing than they are....


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Re: New York times Fact checks Moore [Re: kotik]
    #2844554 - 06/30/04 07:59 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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kotik said:
IMHO, Moore played it safe with this movie. There are soooo many things he could have gone into, but he focused only on the things that were public knowledge, and could be found by any credible source.

He doesn't even appear in this movie, it's all footage, most of it exclusive. It's basically a long documentary of Bush clips, with Michael Moore as narrator, so of course his opinions are all over the place, but he doesn't make any kinds of outrageous claims, only asks why no one else was asking the president about some of this stuff.




I also believe this movie is all fact because Number one its released in an election year critizing our current president so I believe the Republican party and the bush family would already have a slew of their own fact checkers re-checking moores material and claims.
If there was any untruths in the film we'd have known about before the realese of the movie.
So far, noone in this thread have provided creditable evidence that are any untrue claims in F911


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Re: New York times Fact checks Moore [Re: fft2]
    #2844871 - 06/30/04 09:44 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)



Edited by Divided_Sky (06/30/04 09:51 PM)


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Re: New York times Fact checks Moore [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #2845092 - 06/30/04 10:40 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

none of those articles amount to much more
than critiques of his editing style.

where are the factual errors?

where are the lies?

national review starts in with...

Faulty reasoning, slim evidence, outright foolish statements, nothing slows him down. The film has a number of factual errors, and the 9/11 Commission, which he portrays sympathetically, has since undercut some of the pillars of his major arguments.

but doesn't bother elaborating on the supposed factual
errors or the pillars that have been undercut.

I don't get it....what am I missing here?


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Re: New York times Fact checks Moore [Re: afoaf]
    #2845265 - 06/30/04 11:18 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Forget it, dude... the simple fact is that they cannot provide you the evidence to prove their claims of "factual errors" or "lies" or "misinformation". Hell... most of em have never even bothered to watch the fucking movies themselves.

The minute someone wants to debate me on that philosophical points made by Moore in his films as opposed to these little sematic arguements about what word was placed where and what was and wasn't implied by this scene or that one... THEN we can have a discussion. Until then... well... I've got shit to do.


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Re: New York times Fact checks Moore [Re: Bush2004]
    #2845811 - 07/01/04 02:51 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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The enemy loves guys like Michael Moore.


Kinda like the Nazis loved Bush's grand daddie for investing his money in their economy.......


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Re: New York times Fact checks Moore [Re: Skikid16]
    #2845826 - 07/01/04 02:55 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

why would the enemy love moore when they gave money to george bush and his family and freinds fund them. i think they love bush, we pretty much have a president that has the intrest of saudis in mind not americans


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Re: New York times Fact checks Moore [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2848213 - 07/01/04 06:58 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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Innvertigo said:
i'm not a Moore fan but wouldn't the New York Times checking for accuracies be kind of like Saddam Husain looking for human rights violations?



Not at all.

Saddam would at least stand a chance of being right.


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