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Yeti and TAM - Whats their deal with aborting? [Halp save my shoebox!]
    #28370374 - 06/22/23 04:13 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I'm still a fairly new cultivator but I have struggled to dial in these albinos in shoeboxes. I have a dozen or so successful flushes under my belt and today I've become very successful with my first albino, JMF.

However, when I grow Yeti or TAM everything goes great until it's time to pin.  I get few pins to begin with and the first few might do fine initially. However they always abort. You can see exactly what I mean in this TAM shoebox I currently have going. Even the big guy that was about to open up stalled out and began to bruise up. Also half the other pin caps bruising/stalling.....Yet a few new pins coming up and looking healthy. Wtf? lol.

Tub has been misted as needed since sent to fruiting. May look dry now but ignore that, didn't mist before pic and I just got home.

Do these types need excessive FAE or water or something?



Edit: This is 1 quart spawn to 3.5:1 CVG with another half quart pseudo casing. sub was at field capacity. Dubtubbed with another clear 6qt on top, offset for FAE.


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Re: Yeti and TAM - Whats their deal with aborting? [Re: ShroomNugget]
    #28370645 - 06/22/23 08:42 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Nobody around that has any idea what the problem may be?


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Re: Yeti and TAM - Whats their deal with aborting? [Re: ShroomNugget]
    #28371938 - 06/23/23 09:51 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Last bump here, hoping to save this shoebox!


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Re: Yeti and TAM - Whats their deal with aborting? [Re: ShroomNugget]
    #28371941 - 06/23/23 09:54 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Got pics of your spawn jars?
Also you shouldnt be misting before first flush


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Re: Yeti and TAM - Whats their deal with aborting? [Re: milkboy]
    #28371970 - 06/23/23 10:19 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

If youre needing to mist quite a bit before the first flush you may not have your field capacity down, and the substrate isnt able to support the water that the fruits need. Just a possibility

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Re: Yeti and TAM - Whats their deal with aborting? [Re: Pandaskis]
    #28371980 - 06/23/23 10:27 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I dont have pics of the spawn jar I used but it was super healthy. I've never had a problem with a jar.

I only mist as needed if things looks dry, with a fine mist bottle from a few feet up, quite lightly. Twice a day max. That's the only thing I could think of. I haven't misted in a couple days now.

You can see the sub and tub look healthy irhwe than aborting pins.

My tubs sit in somewhat of a martha with an FAE duct and I keep the humidity at a low 80%. Barely crack tubs for FAE, except the albinos (I crack them a bit more) because I've read they seem to need more?  At least PE variants and I assume others?


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Re: Yeti and TAM - Whats their deal with aborting? [Re: ShroomNugget]
    #28371984 - 06/23/23 10:29 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I do know that Melmacs in general are extremely water hungry. In fact some TCs such as Munchausen suggest bottom watering them as their fruiting to support their weight.

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Re: Yeti and TAM - Whats their deal with aborting? [Re: Pandaskis]
    #28371985 - 06/23/23 10:30 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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I do know that Melmacs in general are extremely water hungry. In fact some TCs such as Munchausen suggest bottom watering them as their fruiting to support their weight.




The two largest shrooms in the image are VERY dense like they need to sprout up! Sub was at field capacity and this is first flush though. You'd think it should have plenty of water for the first handful of measly shrooms.


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Re: Yeti and TAM - Whats their deal with aborting? [Re: ShroomNugget]
    #28371986 - 06/23/23 10:31 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

If you have never had a problem with a jar then I would question your eye for contamination even the best growers get contam occasionally. Clean spawn can do much better then that even in sub par conditions.


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Re: Yeti and TAM - Whats their deal with aborting? [Re: milkboy]
    #28371992 - 06/23/23 10:33 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

What is your sub to spawn ratio?

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Re: Yeti and TAM - Whats their deal with aborting? [Re: milkboy]
    #28371996 - 06/23/23 10:34 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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If you have never had a problem with a jar then I would question your eye for contamination even the best growers get contam occasionally. Clean spawn can do much better then that even in sub par conditions.




Flushed maybe 20 tubs now through at least a first and other than the TAMs and Yetis everything had flushes great. :shrug:

Why don't you think it's possible I'm very careful and sterile with my procedure and haven't had a contammed tub? I'm really into this and did hella research.

Now my initial grow was BRF cakes and after the 2nd flush trich showed up. Oof.

Edit: Okay on second thought there was one very small spot of metabolites in the jar, like half a drop, but I ran it anyway because it was so negligible. When opened it smelled fine. :shrug:


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Re: Yeti and TAM - Whats their deal with aborting? [Re: Pandaskis]
    #28371997 - 06/23/23 10:35 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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What is your sub to spawn ratio?




3.5:1 with 0.5 pseudo casing. Sub was at field capacity maybe a few drops more, which I like.


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Re: Yeti and TAM - Whats their deal with aborting? [Re: ShroomNugget]
    #28372004 - 06/23/23 10:39 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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What is your sub to spawn ratio?




3.5:1 with 0.5 pseudo casing. Sub was at field capacity maybe a few drops more, which I like.





Hmmm... Yeah im pretty stumped dude. Only thing i can think of is that your spawn may have been bacterial or it's genetics. Maybe try bottom watering mid flush for your melmacs next time see if that helps?

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Re: Yeti and TAM - Whats their deal with aborting? [Re: ShroomNugget]
    #28372005 - 06/23/23 10:40 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Saying your spawn isnt clean isnt a personal attack on you or your procedure, its just an observation baised on your picture, the info provided, and my personal experience.

Just my advice take it or leave it. If you wana waste time messing around with random misting schedules be my guest, maybe consider misting the walls instead i hear that works well...


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Re: Yeti and TAM - Whats their deal with aborting? [Re: ShroomNugget]
    #28372006 - 06/23/23 10:40 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

The newer pins are still healthy and getting bigger. This is the biggest reason I'm so confused.


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Re: Yeti and TAM - Whats their deal with aborting? [Re: Pandaskis]
    #28372008 - 06/23/23 10:41 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

ShroomNugget said:
Quote:

Pandaskis said:
What is your sub to spawn ratio?




3.5:1 with 0.5 pseudo casing. Sub was at field capacity maybe a few drops more, which I like.





Hmmm... Yeah im pretty stumped dude. Only thing i can think of is that your spawn may have been bacterial or it's genetics. Maybe try bottom watering mid flush for your melmacs next time see if that helps?




All good, much appreciated to have some more experienced people chime in!


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