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EternalDreamer
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Living a psychedelic, spiritual life
#28354473 - 06/10/23 12:34 PM (7 months, 14 days ago) |
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I really want to drop out of society.
Is there a good way to balance the psychedelic realms with this world? I feel like the responsibilities of my job are preventing me from tripping as much as I should. It's a good job and I'm very fortunate to have it: pays well and isn't too bad.
At the same time, if I'm being entirely honest, I'm 100% convinced that if I were to just "tune in, turn on, and drop out", I would be much happier.
My biggest trouble is in the "integration" phase following drug use. I like the spiritual feelings during the experience, but the next day can be kind of a rough. I feel very overwhelmed the next day, and it's definitely not conducive for work. It wouldn't be a problem, if work and responsibilities weren't in the way. I know this because I took a gap year once. Basically, what happens after I trip, is that my ability to see synchronicities and precognitive flashes goes through the roof. During the gap year, I really got to spiritually advance by meditating on all of this experience, essentially. But, with work to report to the next day, it really kills any integration opportunity and limits my ability to just "decompress" and take it all in. F'ing blows. It's still better than nothing, but really frustrating and seems self-inflicted.
I don't know. I just want to retire and do what I want to do.
How do you balance the psychedelic realms with this world? Any advice?
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syncro
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Re: Living a psychedelic, spiritual life [Re: EternalDreamer]
#28354497 - 06/10/23 01:03 PM (7 months, 14 days ago) |
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Internally you can make effort to spiritualize the people you work with, seeing in them that which is sought.
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BrendanFlock
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Re: Living a psychedelic, spiritual life [Re: ButtFace]
#28356342 - 06/11/23 11:22 PM (7 months, 13 days ago) |
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I got lucky I had psychosis..
Now my government in Canada gives me a check..
No work!
It's to die for..
But I am still thus a responsible member of society.
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bubbleguts365
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Re: Living a psychedelic, spiritual life [Re: BrendanFlock]
#28356658 - 06/12/23 08:01 AM (7 months, 13 days ago) |
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Spiritualizing the rest of your life is the key.
Mindfulness is one aspect of it, bringing your attention back to the moment and task at hand, and not letting it drift forward or back to worry, regret, or complicated mind-stuff.
Before even starting the task though, intention is probably more important. If you dedicate each action, interaction, or decision to your understanding of the Absolute, your bodymind can release itself from attachment to the outcomes of those actions. This is known as Karma Yoga in the Vedic traditions, or the Practice of the Presence of God in the Christian tradition. The Bhagavad Gita and a good commentary can teach you about Karma Yoga (or even Swami Vivekananda's short book) and the book by Brother Lawrence of the Resurrection is the text on the Christian practice. If you consider monks who labor all day, only stopping to realign their intention at set intervals by praying the hours, this is what they are doing. This is also the reason the spirituality of cloistered monks looks a lot more like Buddhism or nondual Hinduism than it does the toxic expressions of Christianity. I'm not familiar enough with the practice's name and instruction in other traditions to comment on their analogs.
That practice will gradually erode your personal attachments to the fruits of your actions, and you will be able to find joy in the simplest of actions. Training the mind on the Absolute as often as possible is a full workout for the faculties that must be refined for progress in meditation. It is the foundational practice in most contemplative traditions, but it's not very glamourous, so its importance is downplayed.
Another perspective is the contemplative understanding of the Golden Rule: Love your neighbor AS yourself. If there aren't ultimately different, seperate consciousnesses, everyone and everything is You! Love them and the world like you know it!
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syncro
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Re: Living a psychedelic, spiritual life [Re: bubbleguts365]
#28356699 - 06/12/23 08:36 AM (7 months, 12 days ago) |
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I like that distinction, like love your neighbor IS yourself.
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saintdextro
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Re: Living a psychedelic, spiritual life [Re: syncro]
#28361665 - 06/16/23 01:57 AM (7 months, 9 days ago) |
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IMHO:
I think people should be able to retire at the age of 35 or 40 years old,,, to discover who they are, to meditate, to find out what the meaning of the world is, to find out what is "Morality" and who or what is "God", et cetera...
However, you can do a lot of good from your place of employment, not only just serving in the productive sense of hammering out whatever it is your company brings into the world, but in the interpersonal relationships you co-work and mingle with. It's an added depth of love and friendship that make the job worth having, more so than the amount on your check or salary... You could meet good people at work, or if they're "bad" people, you discover more about the world in it's less fine/attractive points, but learn nonetheless and thus grow as yourself thru such encounters.
Eckhart Tolle teaches about how many people who "awaken" do not become spiritual teachers, they instead remain in ordinary situations with ordinary jobs, he calls them "frequency holders", they still have a place in the world as bringing about the awakening of others and the world at large, there just more passive and obscure to fame/attention, while still serving there purpose fully. keep that in mind.
-------------------- "He who finds peace and joy And radiance within himself That man becomes one with God And vanishes into God's bliss." -Bhagavad Gita, 5.24 One 21 - Building Better Bombs One 21 - Pacified One 21 - Two Sides Is Fine "Respectability is a cloak for the hypocrite" - Jiddu Krishnamurti
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Re: Living a psychedelic, spiritual life [Re: saintdextro]
#28362840 - 06/17/23 01:13 AM (7 months, 8 days ago) |
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Well the social world is a treadmill for happiness. Gets you kinda fit but you never quite get there.
Vibes, energies, night-times, certain times of day. You're living in a destiny, find out what features it has, and suppress the ego needs with a higher state of being - love, very much so.
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