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Re: CO2 holes on a tub in the watertub Tek method [Re: tholos] 2
#28364331 - 06/18/23 12:31 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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If all this was true we would all be suffocating in our own CO2 emissions lol
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Re: CO2 holes on a tub in the watertub Tek method [Re: prankster1590]
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Re: CO2 holes on a tub in the watertub Tek method [Re: prankster1590] 2
#28364701 - 06/18/23 07:57 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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OP is considering buoyancy as if CO2 were immiscible with air and neglects diffusion.
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#28364752 - 06/18/23 08:41 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Guys, help. Will I suffocate if I sleep on the floor. This is urgent, I need to know
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Re: CO2 holes on a tub in the watertub Tek method [Re: SirPsycho] 4
#28364817 - 06/18/23 10:27 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Grain jars need to be turned upside down twice a day to drain CO2.
I also fan my unmodified monotubs with a heap filtered leaf blower. Takes only a fraction of the time compared to manual fanning and even gets rid of the CO2 that gets stuck in the corners.
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Re: CO2 holes on a tub in the watertub Tek method [Re: Baba Yaga] 1
#28364928 - 06/18/23 11:54 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Thatโs why you guys are trusted cultivators Fan death but too much airflow
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Re: CO2 holes on a tub in the watertub Tek method [Re: Land Trout] 2
#28364979 - 06/19/23 01:48 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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C02 diffuses into the air, especially in a water tub with so much evaporation happening to keep currents moving around the tub.
It would take a lot more than the mushrooms produce, with zero air movement, to cause any issues
And like somebody said before, it wouldnโt be such a popular method if it didnโt work.
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#28365039 - 06/19/23 04:07 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Come on now, CO2 just diffuses. Life wouldn't be possible if this didn't occur.
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Re: CO2 holes on a tub in the watertub Tek method [Re: SirPsycho] 4
#28365102 - 06/19/23 06:01 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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SirPsycho said: Guys, help. Will I suffocate if I sleep on the floor. This is urgent, I need to know
 I didn't suffocate. Take that CO2
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Re: CO2 holes on a tub in the watertub Tek method [Re: SirPsycho]
#28365333 - 06/19/23 10:34 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Outside the wind blows the CO2 away and the trees use it for photosynthesis. A tub is an almost closed system. Why do monotubs and shotgun tubs have holes on the sides just above the substrate. To release CO2 right? thats in the books. CO2 prevents pinning. I know I have to try and I will.
I live in Amsterdam. I can buy colonized grow kits over here. 50 euro. So I want a tub that gives picture perfect shrooms. All books say CO2 levels are important. So why are some of you being such dicks. Im just asking a question.
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Re: CO2 holes on a tub in the watertub Tek method [Re: prankster1590] 1
#28365340 - 06/19/23 10:35 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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prankster1590 said: Outside the wind blows the CO2 away and the trees use it for photosynthesis. A tub is an almost closed system. Why do monotubs and shotgun tubs have holes on the sides just above the substrate. To release CO2 right? thats in the books. CO2 prevents pinning. I know I have to try and I will.
I live in Amsterdam. I can buy colonized grow kits over here. 50 euro. So I want a tub that gives picture perfect shrooms. All books say CO2 levels are important. So why are some of you being such dicks. Im just asking a question.
Monotubs don't have holes in the sides and SGFCs are outdated.
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Re: CO2 holes on a tub in the watertub Tek method [Re: SirPsycho]
#28365349 - 06/19/23 10:47 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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SirPsycho said:
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prankster1590 said: Outside the wind blows the CO2 away and the trees use it for photosynthesis. A tub is an almost closed system. Why do monotubs and shotgun tubs have holes on the sides just above the substrate. To release CO2 right? thats in the books. CO2 prevents pinning. I know I have to try and I will.
I live in Amsterdam. I can buy colonized grow kits over here. 50 euro. So I want a tub that gives picture perfect shrooms. All books say CO2 levels are important. So why are some of you being such dicks. Im just asking a question.
Monotubs don't have holes in the sides and SGFCs are outdated.
Really really really helpful. Uhum! So as far as i know monotubs have six 2 inch holes 4 near the substrate surface and 2 near the lid. So why do you say they dont have holes?
And why is SGFC outdated?
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Re: CO2 holes on a tub in the watertub Tek method [Re: prankster1590] 1
#28365376 - 06/19/23 11:01 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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prankster1590 said:
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SirPsycho said:
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prankster1590 said: Outside the wind blows the CO2 away and the trees use it for photosynthesis. A tub is an almost closed system. Why do monotubs and shotgun tubs have holes on the sides just above the substrate. To release CO2 right? thats in the books. CO2 prevents pinning. I know I have to try and I will.
I live in Amsterdam. I can buy colonized grow kits over here. 50 euro. So I want a tub that gives picture perfect shrooms. All books say CO2 levels are important. So why are some of you being such dicks. Im just asking a question.
Monotubs don't have holes in the sides and SGFCs are outdated.
Really really really helpful. Uhum! So as far as i know monotubs have six 2 inch holes 4 near the substrate surface and 2 near the lid. So why do you say they dont have holes?
And why is SGFC outdated?
Arenโt you the engineer guy? Why do you think 300 holes in a tub is bad?
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Re: CO2 holes on a tub in the watertub Tek method [Re: Screwup] 2
#28365414 - 06/19/23 11:34 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Yโall should know thereโs only one way to make a monotub. Fucking rookies.
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Re: CO2 holes on a tub in the watertub Tek method [Re: prankster1590] 1
#28365420 - 06/19/23 11:44 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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prankster1590 said: Outside the wind blows the CO2 away and the trees use it for photosynthesis. A tub is an almost closed system. Why do monotubs and shotgun tubs have holes on the sides just above the substrate. To release CO2 right? thats in the books. CO2 prevents pinning. I know I have to try and I will.
I live in Amsterdam. I can buy colonized grow kits over here. 50 euro. So I want a tub that gives picture perfect shrooms. All books say CO2 levels are important. So why are some of you being such dicks. Im just asking a question.
Monotubs don't have holes in the sides and SGFCs are outdated.
Really really really helpful. Uhum! So as far as i know monotubs have six 2 inch holes 4 near the substrate surface and 2 near the lid. So why do you say they dont have holes?
And why is SGFC outdated?
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22337800
See, no holes.
And SGFCs are outdated because they are 30 years old and were extremely finicky to start with.
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Re: CO2 holes on a tub in the watertub Tek method [Re: SirPsycho]
#28365505 - 06/19/23 12:48 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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The holes are so air can blow through and cause evaporation, which is why you canโt keep a Sgfc next to a wall.
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Re: CO2 holes on a tub in the watertub Tek method [Re: prankster1590]
#28365869 - 06/19/23 04:35 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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prankster1590 said: Outside the wind blows the CO2 away and the trees use it for photosynthesis. A tub is an almost closed system. Why do monotubs and shotgun tubs have holes on the sides just above the substrate. To release CO2 right? thats in the books. CO2 prevents pinning. I know I have to try and I will.
I live in Amsterdam. I can buy colonized grow kits over here. 50 euro. So I want a tub that gives picture perfect shrooms. All books say CO2 levels are important. So why are some of you being such dicks. Im just asking a question.
There are two mechanisms of mass transport. One is convection and the other is diffusion. Why do you neglect diffusion?
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#28365877 - 06/19/23 04:43 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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prankster1590 said: Outside the wind blows the CO2 away and the trees use it for photosynthesis. A tub is an almost closed system. Why do monotubs and shotgun tubs have holes on the sides just above the substrate. To release CO2 right? thats in the books. CO2 prevents pinning. I know I have to try and I will.
I live in Amsterdam. I can buy colonized grow kits over here. 50 euro. So I want a tub that gives picture perfect shrooms. All books say CO2 levels are important. So why are some of you being such dicks. Im just asking a question.
No ones being a dick, its called sarcastic humor... Shroomery has a certain tone. CO2 doesnt build up in your tubs that way; because of science.
People answered and you chose to attack instead lol
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Re: CO2 holes on a tub in the watertub Tek method [Re: VP123]
#28366419 - 06/19/23 11:23 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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prankster1590 said: Outside the wind blows the CO2 away and the trees use it for photosynthesis. A tub is an almost closed system. Why do monotubs and shotgun tubs have holes on the sides just above the substrate. To release CO2 right? thats in the books. CO2 prevents pinning. I know I have to try and I will.
I live in Amsterdam. I can buy colonized grow kits over here. 50 euro. So I want a tub that gives picture perfect shrooms. All books say CO2 levels are important. So why are some of you being such dicks. Im just asking a question.
There are two mechanisms of mass transport. One is convection and the other is diffusion. Why do you neglect diffusion?
Do you think the rate of diffusion is enough to keep up with the respiration rate of a whole bunch of mushrooms?
This is the situation I would like to create:
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#28366705 - 06/20/23 06:59 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Do you think the rate of diffusion is enough to keep up with the respiration rate of a whole bunch of mushrooms?
This is the situation I would like to create:

The mushrooms I grow in shoeboxes tell me yes. How many mushrooms growths have you successfully accomplished?
Nature doesn't work with all or nothing assumptions. It is not a matter of CO2 being bad. It is a matter of whether the levels of CO2 are sufficiently high to prevent mushroom growth. What's the point of arguing endlessly about needing to get rid of CO2 when we see that mushrooms grow in tote boxes and shoe boxes without the need of convection currents to take away the built in CO2? The diffusion coefficient of CO2 is 16 mm2/s if you want to do calculations.
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