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Re: OK opens a state-funded Catholic school [Re: Randar]
#28353380 - 06/09/23 03:27 PM (7 months, 15 days ago) |
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Randar said: Bwahahah! That's so stupid. Then just say you're an atheist. If you say you're a satanist, i.e., you follow Satan, then accept it. I feel that it's just a way for a small group of atheists to retain shock value.
There are satanists that worship an actual Satan. They tend to be the weird goth kids that grew up but never stopped being kids.
There are satanists that value knowledge, and the biblical Satan is very much a source of knowledge and wisdom, which God treats as original sin. I think they go by Luciferians, normally. TST is probably a little bit closer to these guys.
One aspect that you may be overlooking, however, is that a somewhat common (at least it was, seems less common now) argument against religious freedom for atheists was that "atheists have no faith in a deity, therefore they have no religion, therefore we do not violate their rights by forcing them to pray".
But yes, there is also a certain amount of shock value involved. And there is legitimate value in that. It's like a party composition, you need a healer, you need a dps, you need a tank...TST is the tank. Their job is to sit there in the front of the party and take damage, so the rest of us atheists can focus on something other than survival.
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sudly
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Re: OK opens a state-funded Catholic school [Re: Kryptos]
#28356016 - 06/11/23 06:22 PM (7 months, 13 days ago) |
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Kryptos said: Looks like Oklahoma Republicans want to open an explicitly religious school. The AG of Oklahoma, also a republican, has said this is a clear violation of state and federal laws.
So...how long before catholicism is the official religion?
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the supreme court ruled in favour of this, but I don't think anyone who supports it would want to see public funding for a private muslim, satanist or spaghetti loving church.
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Re: OK opens a state-funded Catholic school [Re: Kryptos]
#28356022 - 06/11/23 06:25 PM (7 months, 13 days ago) |
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Satan isn't all that bad compared to the big G.
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I am constantly amazed at the mysterious way in which our Lord works. Take God’s kill rate in the Bible: 2,5 million people. What can the Devil boast? A measily 10 souls.
I mention this because we need to watch Satan as he is notoriously sneaky. While God is in-your-face and honest, one never knows what the Devil has been up to, and better the Devil you know!
Of course the 2,5 mill excludes the deaths resulting from the Great Flood, the obliteration of Sodom and Gomorrah, general plagues, famines and other miseries. Then God’s kill rate rises to an impressive 24 mill.
And even those ten who Beezlebub killed were not entirely his own work. They were the seven sons and three daughters of Job, and God only allowed it as part of a bet. Technically speaking, those deaths should be shared five-a-piece, as some of that blood was earned via God’s hands.
Most of God’s strikes were perfectly logical and understandable, such as when He killed David and Bathsheba's baby boy; or when He smote that man who picked up sticks on the Sabbath.
Other times he was probably intending to show off His sense of humour, like when he killed Jehoram by making his bowels fall out; or those people he smote for for dancing naked around Aaron's golden calf.
Isn’t it pleasing to know that our Lord has a sense of ‘joie de vivre’?
Remember when He had those religious leaders killed for taking part in a prayer contest? What did they think it was, MasterPriest? Or how about the time He made a wall fall on those Syrian soldiers. Hoo boy, bet they never saw that coming!
Importantly, God also likes to use smiting as an educational tool. For instance, who will forget the lesson about teasing baldies after God sent two bears to kill children for mocking Elisha's bald head. And don’t forget how God sent a lion to eat a man for not killing a prophet. If God says kill, you damn well do it.
Probably God’s most memorable kill was when He pre-ordained the death of his own Son as part of His grand plan for Jesus (Isaiah 53:10).
"Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him; He has put Him to grief".
Such is the mysterious way of our Lord. He has a plan for you too
https://www.news24.com/news24/god-vs-satan-natural-born-killers-20120626
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Re: OK opens a state-funded Catholic school [Re: sudly]
#28356243 - 06/11/23 09:05 PM (7 months, 13 days ago) |
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just like every bob isnt bob the builder.
every satan isnt the biblical satan.
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Re: OK opens a state-funded Catholic school [Re: rxb] 1
#28356257 - 06/11/23 09:13 PM (7 months, 13 days ago) |
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I don't think any Satan is as murderous and vindictive as any biblical god.
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Re: OK opens a state-funded Catholic school [Re: sudly]
#28356271 - 06/11/23 09:20 PM (7 months, 13 days ago) |
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To me separation of church and state isn't even just political As a Christian, I believe that Jesus made it very clear. That and you are too give unto Caesar's what is Caesar's And give unto God's Which is God's. So I consider it sacrilegious. Also a side note When I started seeing ultra conservative mega churches selling Trump gear it really made me mad Jesus literally flipped over tables of people conducting business in church because it's sacrilege.
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Re: OK opens a state-funded Catholic school [Re: sudly]
#28356727 - 06/12/23 08:58 AM (7 months, 12 days ago) |
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sudly said: I don't think any Satan is as murderous and vindictive as any biblical god.
yeah the biblical god is pretty evil.
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Re: OK opens a state-funded Catholic school [Re: rxb]
#28357070 - 06/12/23 12:54 PM (7 months, 12 days ago) |
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God IS evil. God allows Satan to exist, who is apparently supposed to be the evil one, according to traditional Christian beliefs. God allows Job or whatever his name is to have his entire family and farm or whatever killed to prove to Satan that Job never waivers in his delusional faith to him. God killed everyone on the world in a flood, except Noah because Noah was cool or somethin'.
You have to be a moron to seriously consider religion and then conclude, "yea, I'm going to dedicate my life to that."
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