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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
    #28361753 - 06/16/23 06:19 AM (7 months, 8 days ago)

i dont understand the point of the electorial college at all.

the things i have heard stated is that it gives power back to states that would otherwise be powerless.

but
1) i dont see how wyoming is powerless they didnt get the president they wanted but they still have power.

2) i dont understand why people in wyoming should have a greater influance with their vote than someone in california. it should be a simple popularity contest...1 person 1 vote. but as it is someone in wyoming has more than double the effect on an election as a person in california.... which is unjust and unfair.

we need ranked choice simple voting for everything no electorial college.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: rxb]
    #28361870 - 06/16/23 09:02 AM (7 months, 8 days ago)

It exists because of white supremacy, same reason the senate does.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #28361872 - 06/16/23 09:03 AM (7 months, 8 days ago)

Same reason the nation does, frankly.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: Enlil]
    #28361875 - 06/16/23 09:09 AM (7 months, 8 days ago)

As I observe American culture, we've now entered an age of black supremacy.

Being "white" is the new N-word.  White males are even more horrendous.

The world would be a good place if we could eliminate white males.

White heterosexual males are the equivalent of Satan.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28361900 - 06/16/23 09:30 AM (7 months, 8 days ago)

Tone down the racism, please.  I'd hate to have to moderate you.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28361923 - 06/16/23 10:13 AM (7 months, 8 days ago)

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As I observe American culture, we've now entered an age of black supremacy.

Being "white" is the new N-word.  White males are even more horrendous.

The world would be a good place if we could eliminate white males.

White heterosexual males are the equivalent of Satan.




i live in the same world you do. and yet this sounds stupid and hyperbolic to me.

to me it sounds like you actually do feel guilty for some racist shit and you are deferring it by being a more racist fuck.

the truth is we treated black people horribly...for 200 years and now people see it clearly that the school in the blacker area of the county gets way less funding than the school in the whiter area of the county and many people think thats wrong.

so it gets brought up and idiots and bigots go... its always been that way and you better not change a dime because we dont want to educate those black people properly.

and that is obtuse... and creates an economic gap and an equality gap, and animosity and crime.

its a stupid as fuck attitude to have and now we just have this idea that being conservative means you dont like gay people or anyone who is lgbtq... hell they dont like the term lgbtq because they want to just call them all q's and they want queer to be a bad word and they hate that some people proudly call it that.

what absurdity... in the next breath they say something about the constitution... but the constitution grants people the freedom of expression and yet you have a bunch of people running around saying they are constitutionalists who are against some how this group being able to express themselves when their expression HURTS NO ONE.

the problem with this is it pushes every logical person twoard libralism and removes the checks and balances... to the point whee you have active representatives saying that we should establish a national christian religion... as the one true faith.

which is also an affront to the constitution.... the fake right wing wants everyone to conform to their idea of right and wrong down to skin color and who they sleep with and its gone WAY too far.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28361962 - 06/16/23 10:55 AM (7 months, 8 days ago)

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Yeah it forces you to build a coalition. [Third party] builds coalition with Democrats in return for single payer healthcare, etc. No more holding the (relatively) progressive voter base hostage with two right wing parties.




Hypothetically, I think that progressive 3rd party would lead to a center right 4th party which could easily be the most popular given American tastes. The least progressive Democrats might not really want e.g. single payer and see more common ground with moderate Republicans. If that party didn't win the extreme right would. Also if that 4th party had a chance they would get corporate funding, and money is always a barrier for the left.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #28361966 - 06/16/23 10:58 AM (7 months, 8 days ago)

a strong center right would be a good thing if they kept tothe ideals of the center right..instead of MAGA


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #28361978 - 06/16/23 11:17 AM (7 months, 8 days ago)

Eh, there are some black nationalists that may actually hold those views, but it's a tiny group of weirdos that nobody takes seriously. We are certainly not in an 'age of black supremacy'.

I've been in a college classroom where someone said "Yea, fuck those straight white men!" ... but it was a white gay man who said it so.. :lol: and that's the real thing going on here. RJ doesn't realize he's getting trolled.

There is important academic discourse about critical race theory and whiteness, but by the time it filters down to twitter, you're left with the worst takes from idiot teenagers who have no idea what they're talking about.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #28362081 - 06/16/23 12:29 PM (7 months, 8 days ago)

Why not?


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: Lynnch]
    #28362082 - 06/16/23 12:29 PM (7 months, 8 days ago)

:cookiemonster:


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28362085 - 06/16/23 12:31 PM (7 months, 8 days ago)

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It exists because of white supremacy, same reason the senate does.



Pretty sure it was the result of a compromise between the Federalists and the Anti-Federalists (more-or-less the larger states (by population) and the small states) who refused to join the Union if such a measure wasnʻt put into place, fearing that their state would loose all power and authority to the more populated states. Originally it was set up as a form of "checks and balances". Today my biggest qualm isnʻt even with the electoral college, as nearly every time they go with the popular vote anyways. However, it is a little concerning how they seem to be a group of unknown individuals.

So long as we continue to use the electoral college system they should probably be voted in by the people. Or at the very least they need to be publicly known. Then again there could be some argument made to the effect that their anonymity allows for less interference and manipulation of their vote, but that could just as easily be untrue behind the scenes. Itʻs hard to say what is the right course of action, because in some ways this American system does make it quite difficult for true tyrannical dictators to take over (despite how people and the media portray the presidents).

I feel the electoral college is less important of a thing that needs change than the simple fact that we have too few political parties. Iʻm saying we need a 3rd party, but if I was honest I would like to see more. Maybe even 50 parties (each from their respective state). So as to make it more difficult for them to manipulate the people into this left/right us/them paradigm while also making them more responsible for their actions as they would have less of a leg to stand on when trying to blame the other party for their shortcomings. Kinda hard to blame 49 other groups for your fuck up and still be taken seriously. lol


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: Enlil]
    #28362086 - 06/16/23 12:31 PM (7 months, 8 days ago)

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Tone down the racism, please.  I'd hate to have to moderate you.



pretty sure he was being facetious, ya old fart. :lol:


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28362099 - 06/16/23 12:39 PM (7 months, 8 days ago)

You never answered my question about which specific public school system you claim is teaching that distorted black history to.
Could someone else ask RJtubs?  They may have me ignored.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: 336]
    #28362100 - 06/16/23 12:39 PM (7 months, 8 days ago)

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Tone down the racism, please.  I'd hate to have to moderate you.



pretty sure he was being facetious, ya old fart. :lol:





No, he's not.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: 336]
    #28362105 - 06/16/23 12:45 PM (7 months, 8 days ago)

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Tone down the racism, please.  I'd hate to have to moderate you.



pretty sure he was being facetious, ya old fart. :lol:



That doesn't make it any less vile of racist drivel.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: Enlil]
    #28362107 - 06/16/23 12:45 PM (7 months, 8 days ago)

Which part? lmao


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: 336]
    #28362112 - 06/16/23 12:47 PM (7 months, 8 days ago)

All of it.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: Enlil]
    #28362127 - 06/16/23 01:02 PM (7 months, 8 days ago)

lol


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: 336]
    #28362373 - 06/16/23 05:04 PM (7 months, 8 days ago)

i didnt read it as satire either.

maybe it was good satire. but idk... seemed real enough.


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