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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: Enlil]
    #28349456 - 06/06/23 11:25 AM (7 months, 18 days ago)

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Without it, a lot of states would basically have no voice in who becomes president.




Which is as it should be.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: Randar]
    #28349483 - 06/06/23 12:00 PM (7 months, 18 days ago)

That's one opinion.  All you need is a couple hundred million to agree with you, and it's a done deal!


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: Enlil]
    #28349510 - 06/06/23 12:26 PM (7 months, 18 days ago)

I just find it odd to say that states would not have a voice in choosing a president.

States shouldn't have a choice in choosing a president, the people should. As it stands, the electoral system often denies the people the ability to choose the president. Additionally, and this is an extreme, the electoral college allows a mere 23% of the popular vote (or thereabouts) to determine who the president is. That's absolutely ridiculous.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: Randar] * 1
    #28349532 - 06/06/23 12:41 PM (7 months, 18 days ago)

I understand your opinion, but it isn't really reflective of this nation and its structure.  The states choose the president because the president will preside over a union of states.  The states can decide how it votes and whether or not the citizens are directly involved in that decision.

If you want to abandon federalism and adopt some notion of a large monolithic government that has general police power over every American citizen, that's fine...it's just not our current system.  All you need is to convince another couple hundred million to agree with you, as I said before.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: Enlil]
    #28349884 - 06/06/23 05:20 PM (7 months, 18 days ago)

electorial college means that a minority of voters gets a greater level of control over who is president.

makes no sense.

the more popular candidate should be elected by ranked choice.

why should anyones vote count more than anyone elses.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: rxb] * 1
    #28349939 - 06/06/23 06:17 PM (7 months, 18 days ago)

Ranked choice voting has as much a chance as a third party candidate.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: rxb]
    #28350130 - 06/06/23 08:46 PM (7 months, 18 days ago)

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electorial college means that a minority of voters gets a greater level of control over who is president.

makes no sense.

the more popular candidate should be elected by ranked choice.

why should anyones vote count more than anyone elses.



It doesn't.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: 336]
    #28350337 - 06/07/23 01:46 AM (7 months, 17 days ago)

UPDATED STATS:
1 REPUBLICAN
5 DEMOCRAT
7 INDEPENDENT
2 NO VOTE


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: Enlil]
    #28350571 - 06/07/23 08:10 AM (7 months, 17 days ago)

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Quote:

rxb said:
electorial college means that a minority of voters gets a greater level of control over who is president.

makes no sense.

the more popular candidate should be elected by ranked choice.

why should anyones vote count more than anyone elses.



It doesn't.




yes a voter in wyoming has more than double the impact of a voter in california.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: 336] * 1
    #28353911 - 06/09/23 11:29 PM (7 months, 14 days ago)

UPDATED STATS
1 REPUBLICAN (6%)
6 DEMOCRATS (35%)
8 INDEPENDENTS (47%)
2 NO VOTE (12%)

Well... According to the shroomery poll an independent candidate would win. lmao.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: 336]
    #28354179 - 06/10/23 07:40 AM (7 months, 14 days ago)

Independents do not vote for independent candidates, that's not how that political designation works in the US :facepalm:


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: Ice9]
    #28354276 - 06/10/23 09:30 AM (7 months, 14 days ago)

I think John Anderson 1980 was an exception to that rule.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #28354295 - 06/10/23 09:43 AM (7 months, 14 days ago)

It can happen, sure.  Generally in the US an I designation on a voter card just means it is someone who likes to claim they pick whoever best represents them :shrug:  Then they go vote for the same party they have always voted for year in and year out and bitch and moan about a broken political system.  It also prevents them from participating in many primaries, so then they bitch about the candidates that are nominated.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: Ice9]
    #28354326 - 06/10/23 10:11 AM (7 months, 14 days ago)

I don't think Illinois has party designation on the card anymore, but there is some mechanism for primaries. I miss being able to push one button straight party. Now it's a time waster with the #2 pencil going down ballot to candidates you never heard of.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: 336]
    #28354468 - 06/10/23 12:30 PM (7 months, 14 days ago)

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how anyone could pick Biden is beyond me. I mean at least Trump was a clown and was kinda funny;





The fact that the first thing you say about Trump that you like is that he was "kinda funny" tells me everything I need to know about your logic involved in picking a candidate.
You don't care about policies or improving laws or helping citizens; you just want a president who can make you laugh.
You're so shallow, 336. 

Let me show you how an intelligent voter decides who to vote for:

What values do I believe in that I want to look for in a candidate?:

1. equality for all, including the LGBTQ+ community.
2. gun control
3. green energy/climate research to combat global warming/climate change
4. women's right to an abortion


Those are the four that come to mind right now.
Which candidate posses all or most of those values?
Biden.
Thus, I vote for Biden.

You see how I did that, 336?  You should try that, too, it'll open your eyes more.



edit - any Americans who don't want to risk losing their country to an authoritarian dictator (Trump) should vote Democrat.  Trump is clearly a national security danger, as evident by his recent 37 count indictment, including ESPIONAGE!  Voting third party in this case is allowing authoritarianism to possibly win.  You have to vote Democrat if you want our country saved.


edit 2 - look at how most of the Republican party is still supporting Trump after the 37 count federal indictment.  McCarthy released a pre-recorded video condemning the indictment before he even read the indictment.  The Republican party, at this moment in time, doesn't care about the rule of law.  They are full-blown in support of authoritarianism.  Don't think they will stop if Trump isn't their nominee.  That would be ignorant.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
    #28354824 - 06/10/23 07:17 PM (7 months, 14 days ago)

I could not agree with your edit 2 any more then I do now.  Republican leadership as a whole got rid of their platform at the last convention and just supported trump.  They are dirty. Trump tweeted get rid of the constitution. Nuff-said.
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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: koods]
    #28356974 - 06/12/23 11:37 AM (7 months, 12 days ago)

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koods said:

You have to get rid of the electoral college system, but republicans will never allow that because it’s the only way they can win




During his 8 years in power, did Obama address eliminating the electoral college?


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28357016 - 06/12/23 12:10 PM (7 months, 12 days ago)

A President has no ability to change the Constitution, dude.


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: Enlil]
    #28357139 - 06/12/23 02:00 PM (7 months, 12 days ago)

Thanks, Obama


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Re: Anyone plan on voting 3rd party? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #28357144 - 06/12/23 02:05 PM (7 months, 12 days ago)

I voted for Ralph Nader in ‘96 and again in 2000 and holy shit what a mistake that was.

My girlfriend voted for Bush in Florida in 2000 and I like to fuck with her that her vote counted hundreds of times. :lol:


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