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    #28343237 - 06/01/23 03:22 PM (7 months, 23 days ago)

This thread is for anything etymology related! Over the past year or so I really had developed a fascination with finding out the origins of last names and first names , and that had ultimately led to word etymology across the board!

If you would like to share any cool tidbits of etymology please share! Any language is fine!

I'll share the one I learned today, what had lead me to it was I've been learning Spanish recently and I saw on a spray paint can the word , contiene ( I've been randomly trying to read Spanish on products that have translations)

Which tiene/tienes in Spanish is has/have , con is with , with-having :nerd: it's obvious our word contains and contiene have a Latin origin and thusly

contain (v.)
c. 1300, "restrain (someone), control (oneself), behave (in a certain way)," from Old French contein-, tonic stem of contenir, from Latin continere (transitive) "to hold together, enclose," from assimilated form of com "with, together" (see con-) + tenere "to hold" (from PIE root *ten- "to stretch").

I will add some more etymology later! I've got many in mind that I've already discovered that I think are worth adding

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54. The true nature of things is to be known personally , through the eyes of clear illumination and not through a sage : what the moon exactly is , is to be known with one's own eyes ; can another make him know it?


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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos] * 2
    #28343360 - 06/01/23 05:09 PM (7 months, 23 days ago)

Of course etymology must again be included. I'm looking at them more often from when you guys started mentioning it.

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etymology of etymology
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The word "etymology" is derived from the Greek term "etymologia," which combines two Greek roots: "etymon" (meaning "true sense" or "original meaning") and "logia" (meaning "study" or "discourse").

In Greek, "etymologia" referred to the study of the true or original meanings of words. It involved analyzing the roots, components, and historical development of words to understand their inherent meanings and linguistic connections.

The Greek root "etymon" can be further traced back to the Greek verb "etymos," which means "true" or "real." The concept of etymology revolves around uncovering the true or genuine origins and meanings of words.

Over time, the term "etymology" entered the English language and came to signify the study of the historical development, origins, and changes in word meanings and forms. It encompasses the investigation of linguistic evolution, word derivations, borrowings, and semantic shifts.

The etymology of "etymology" itself reflects the fundamental nature of the field, which is concerned with tracing the true sense and historical roots of words.




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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #28343845 - 06/01/23 11:17 PM (7 months, 22 days ago)

You might find John Allegro's work interesting if you haven't checked it out already.:thumbup:


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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos] * 3
    #28344119 - 06/02/23 08:11 AM (7 months, 22 days ago)

This book is never far from reach, it can be super enjoyable to flip through and read. Coffee stains and all



I thought forage and foray were kinda funny, if any of y’all want to see a specific word I can take a pic for you :toast:


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Re: Etymology [Re: Hertz] * 2
    #28344506 - 06/02/23 01:50 PM (7 months, 22 days ago)

The etymology of etymology :awemazing:

That John allegro story is quite interesting, seems he isn't considered an "scholar" or "academic" after his book :strokebeard:  he has an interesting theory though

Thanks for joining hertz! Gnarly etymology book :awehigh: please share some of your favorites!

I will share a few here

Who loves to paint on a

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canvas (n.)
"sturdy cloth made from hemp or flax," mid-14c., from Anglo-French canevaz, Old North French canevach, Old French chanevaz "canvas," literally "made of hemp, hempen," noun use of Vulgar Latin adjective *cannapaceus "made of hemp," from Latin cannabis, from Greek kannabis "hemp," a Scythian or Thracian word (see cannabis).




:awehigh::potleaf:

I work with automated robotic machines and a coworker told me this one that he knew! (He's definitely a "bookworm" so to speak)


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robot (n.) 1923, "mechanical person," also "person whose work or activities are entirely mechanical," from the English translation of the 1920 play "R.U.R." ("Rossum's Universal Robots") by Karel Capek (1890-1938), from Czech robotnik "forced worker," from robota "forced labor, compulsory service, drudgery," from robotiti "to work, drudge," from an Old Czech source akin to Old Church Slavonic rabota "servitude," from rabu "slave" (from Old Slavic *orbu-, from PIE *orbh- "pass from one status to another;" see orphan).




Now for some spiritual related textbook etymology!

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The Sanskrit term Upaniṣad originally meant “connection” or “equivalence,[27] but came to be understood as "sitting near a teacher,"[27] from upa "by" and ni-ṣad "sit down",[28] "sitting down near", referring to the student sitting down near the teacher while receiving spiritual knowledge.(Gurumukh)[29] Other dictionary meanings include "esoteric doctrine" and "secret doctrine". Monier-Williams' Sanskrit Dictionary notes – "According to native authorities, Upanishad means setting to rest ignorance by revealing the knowledge of the supreme spirit."[30]




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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #28344512 - 06/02/23 01:55 PM (7 months, 22 days ago)

Wow very interesting on the forage and foray

According to ancestry I have some ~40% Scottish ancestry

So if I'm reading that correctly,  it was raids or expeditions as in pillaging others land and produce etc . :mindblown:


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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #28344896 - 06/02/23 07:45 PM (7 months, 22 days ago)

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connectedcosmos said:

According to ancestry I have some ~40% Scottish ancestry

So if I'm reading that correctly,  it was raids or expeditions as in pillaging others land and produce etc . :mindblown:




I think so, but I just noticed the fodder reference and “fodder” happens to be on the left page of the pic, some shit about food for cattle. Flip it around, maybe the cattle shit mushrooms for us, food. Stoopid I know but what can I say

Clearly it says “pillage” and “raid” though.

About 8 years ago I bought a shit ton of dictionaries on eBay, I was doing a lot of contracts back then, so I have a bunch of legal and banking dictionaries, which come in handy for damn sure. Along with other dictionaries, I became a little obsessed. I started buying older ones from 1800’s. at some point I got sick of it all. Etymology is always interesting though. The original intent of “words”

Maybe the letter “J” was and always has been the joker. It wasn’t invented until the 16th century, I think, and religious people think the name Jesus is sacred, maybe it’s just a joke lol :shrug:


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Re: Etymology [Re: Hertz] * 2
    #28345492 - 06/03/23 09:24 AM (7 months, 21 days ago)

"Mysticism" is derived from the Greek μύω, meaning "I conceal",[web 2] and its derivative μυστικός, mystikos, meaning 'an initiate'. The verb μύω has received a quite different meaning in the Greek language, where it is still in use. The primary meanings it has are "induct" and "initiate". Secondary meanings include "introduce", "make someone aware of something", "train", "familiarize", "give first experience of something

According to Thayer's Greek Lexicon, the term μυστήριον in classical Greek meant "a hidden thing", "secret".
(Wikipedia)

I was just looking into etymology literally yesterday for the first time in the long-time.

In any event, I logged on to make another post about "WHY IS THIS IS SO SECRETIVE?", but it's literally in the word "Mysticism".

Doesn't change the fact that I think people are hiding the truth under the rug about this thing.


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Re: Etymology [Re: solarshroomster] * 1
    #28345537 - 06/03/23 10:17 AM (7 months, 21 days ago)

Nice! Interesting :takingnotes:

It's contradictory in a way and I like that , conceal being contradictory to the make someone aware or introduce

So to keep secret or to spread this beautiful knowledge? I've come to the liking of the term "finding breadcrumbs" of the divine nature of the cosmos I think that's a good way to put it , we are all in this together no matter what we know think or believe , yet we can all find these little breadcrumbs left throughout all the ancient books and philosophical knowledge to lead us back home to the source




Okay now to share some etymology
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Nectar is derived from Greek νεκταρ, the fabled drink of eternal life. Some derive the word from νε- or νη- "not" plus κτα- or κτεν- "kill", meaning "unkillable", thus "immortal". The common use of the word "nectar" to refer to the "sweet liquid in flowers", is first recorded in AD 1600.




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Etymology. Amrita is composed of the negative prefix, अ a from Sanskrit meaning 'not', and mṛtyu meaning 'death' in Sanskrit, thus meaning 'not death' or 'immortal/deathless'. The concept of an immortality drink is attested in at least two ancient Indo-European languages: Ancient Greek and Sanskrit.




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    #28345727 - 06/03/23 12:33 PM (7 months, 21 days ago)

That reminded of the Mrityunjaya mantra; jaya, being victory, over death, mrityu, a widely used mahamantra to Shiva, for healing, liberation, etc.

"Doesn't change the fact that I think people are hiding the truth under the rug about this thing."

I was almost making a post in the spiritual amnesia thread today considering the hiding influences within, the dynamics of forgetfulness, not to forget they are also without, if there is a difference.

Reminded of the quote, "What is this social base of perception, don Juan?"
"The physical certainty that the world is made of concrete objects. I call this a social base
because a serious and fierce effort is put out by everybody to guide us to perceive the
world the way we do."


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    #28348926 - 06/05/23 10:04 PM (7 months, 18 days ago)

What is the root of the word cannabis?


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Re: Etymology [Re: BrendanFlock] * 2
    #28349054 - 06/06/23 01:21 AM (7 months, 18 days ago)

1798, "common hemp," from Cannabis, Modern Latin plant genus named (1728), from Greek kannabis "hemp," a Scythian or Thracian word. That word is also source of Armenian kanap', Albanian kanep, Russian konoplja, Persian kanab, Lithuanian kanapės "hemp," and English canvas and possibly hemp. In reference to use of the plant parts as an intoxicant, from 1848. Related: Cannabic.
also from 1798

Old English hænep "hemp, cannabis sativa," from Proto-Germanic *hanapiz (source also of Old Saxon hanap, Old Norse hampr, Old High German hanaf, German Hanf), probably a very early Germanic borrowing of the same Scythian word that became Greek kannabis (see cannabis). As the name of the fiber made from the plant, by c. 1300. Slang sense of "marijuana" dates from 1940s; scientific applications for the narcotic derived from hemp date to 1870.


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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos] * 1
    #28349549 - 06/06/23 12:59 PM (7 months, 18 days ago)

Greek

Old English Grēcas ‘the Greeks’, from Latin Graeci, the name given by the Romans to the people who called themselves the Hellenes, from Greek Graikoi, which according to Aristotle was the prehistoric name of the Hellenes.

I kinda wanna learn old anglisch it would be kinda kewl :mitebecool:


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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #28349598 - 06/06/23 01:34 PM (7 months, 18 days ago)

þæt gehyrdþ wel lystig!

(totally cheated with AI)


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    #28349602 - 06/06/23 01:36 PM (7 months, 18 days ago)

What does it say :wtfsonic::awemazing:

That could be fun?

I do know the þ(thorn) is pronounced "th" as in there or through or thorn:lol:

Funny Google translate detects Icelandic but doesn't translate it at all


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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos] * 1
    #28349639 - 06/06/23 02:01 PM (7 months, 18 days ago)

'That could be fun?' yeah, I thought lol. I have no idea what AI is doing here.

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"That is heard well brings joy and delight. Liveliness has the power to hold and accompany good thoughts, and it brings mirth to the soul. When one hears a clear sound, the mind is filled with happiness and appreciation. However, when something is heard well, it should also be protected and remembered for its craftsmanship and musicality, so that the work does not perish but continues to bring joy and harmonious song. Hearing is a good thing, but thought, understanding, and goodwill cannot be contained by it alone; they must follow if one desires or requires them or wishes to discern. Thus, one should share that which is heard with those in need, and lead liveliness in communal creation, so that good hearing may be well nurtured and heard."





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þæt gehyrdþ wel lystig
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Þæt gehyrdþ wel lystig, þonne is gódum geþance and gelimpan. Lystignes hæfð anweald tó gehealdenne heortan and geferan, and þæt cennþ gleow on sefan. Þonne man gehyrþ þæt geholene sweg, þonne swengeþ þæt mód mid blisse and geþance. Ac þæt gehyrdþ wel, þonne sceal man þæt eac bewarian and gemunan þæs timbres and þæs sangcraeftes, þæt þæt geweorc ne losige, ac forþbringe lystum and sange gleawlice and smeðe. Gehyrdnes is gód ðing, ac geþanc and gewitnes and gódes willan ne mæg þæt ánhaga healdean, ac sceal him fylgan, gif hé þæt lyst and lufaþ, oþþe forðon þe hé hit behófaþ oþþe gesceadwisaþ. Þus cweþende, man sceal þæt gehyrd þearfum dælan, and lystignesse lædan on gesiþcundre gesceapenunge, þæt gehyrdnes wel geboren and gehýred weorþe.
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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos] * 1
    #28349666 - 06/06/23 02:23 PM (7 months, 18 days ago)

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Inglis of Old: Request


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Can you speak in old English?

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Of course! I can certainly try my best to emulate Old English for you. However, please keep in mind that my knowledge is based on modern English, so my imitation may not be completely accurate. Nevertheless, I shall endeavor to assist you in a manner befitting the archaic tongue. Pray, how may I be of service?





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How do you say , why is the world here at all

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Verily, the question thou dost pose is one of profound nature. In the ancient tongue of Old English, one might express thy query thusly:

"Forþon hwi is þes werold hér ealra þinga?"

Mayhaps this rendition captures the essence of thy inquiry. Pray, let me know if there is aught else I may aid thee with.


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Can you tell me how to pronounce that ?

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Certainly! Here is a guide to pronouncing the Old English phrase:

"Forþon hwi is þes werold hér ealra þinga?"

"Forþon" is pronounced as "for-thon" with a soft "th" sound like in "thin."
"hwi" is pronounced as "hwee" with a long "ee" sound.
"is" is pronounced as "ees" with a long "ee" sound.
"þes" is pronounced as "thes" with a soft "th" sound.
"werold" is pronounced as "weh-rold" with a short "eh" sound.
"hér" is pronounced as "hayer" with a long "ay" sound.
"ealra" is pronounced as "eh-al-ra" with a short "eh" sound.
"þinga" is pronounced as "thing-ga" with a hard "g" sound.
Please note that this is a rough approximation based on modern English pronunciation conventions, as the original pronunciation of Old English may have varied.





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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos] * 1
    #28365198 - 06/19/23 08:09 AM (7 months, 5 days ago)

I know there are jucier ones out there- I'll try and get a good one soon!

'Apport'(noun)

1.The supposed paranormal transference of an object from one place to another, or the appearance of an object from an unknown source, often associated with poltergeist activity and séances.
2.An object that appears from an unknown source.

So the etymology of apport comes from the Latin- Apportō(verb)
1."to bring/ to carry"
which is cool because, to me, it suggests the 'apport item' in question being manually carried by a spirit/ghoul like some sort of spooky Postman.

The coordinate term "Asport" derived from the Latin Asportō  also ends up meaning "to take off/ carry away."
This inverse is all too familiar to anyone who has had guitar picks be spirited off to that big pick farm I hear they all end up at.

I then seen the webpage read "Alternative forms: asportate (considered a mistake)" and was thinking how "Considered a mistake" is a cool etymology in the way it suggest objects simply appearing in a place in some multiverse-timeline-mixup based secenario and was FULLY gonna milk that as the sort of big reveal of this post (:lol:) before realising the WORD itself was the mistake...:blush:

Sweet thread, cosmos :rockon:


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Re: Etymology [Re: Lithop] * 2
    #28366591 - 06/20/23 03:59 AM (7 months, 4 days ago)

weird
/wird/
Origin
Old English wyrd ‘destiny’, of Germanic origin. The adjective (late Middle English) originally meant ‘having the power to control destiny’, and was used especially in the Weird Sisters, originally referring to the Fates, later the witches in Shakespeare's Macbeth ; the latter use gave rise to the sense ‘unearthly’ (early 19th century).


jinx
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Origin

early 20th century (originally US): probably a variant of jynx ‘wryneck’ (because the bird was used in witchcraft).


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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos] * 2
    #28368191 - 06/21/23 05:16 AM (7 months, 3 days ago)

That's weird.

Solstice, today! :crankey:

'The term "solstice" has its roots in Latin. It is derived from two Latin words: "sol" meaning "sun" and "sistere" meaning "to stand still." When combined, "solstice" literally translates to "sun stands still."'
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    #28369608 - 06/22/23 02:41 AM (7 months, 2 days ago)

Helpful in understanding some of our concepts. We haven't gotten far.


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    #28396413 - 07/15/23 12:14 PM (6 months, 10 days ago)

:levitate:
Bodhicitta, derived from Sanskrit "Bodhi" meaning 'enlightenment/awakening' and "Chit" meaning 'consciousness' combining to pretty much mean: "Mind of awakening."

Bodhicitta: The seed of Buddha-Mind.

(Bodhi itself originates from Sanskirt root "Budh" meaning 'to understand fully/ to awaken' with a literal meaning close to 'awakening').


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Re: Etymology [Re: Lithop] * 1
    #28396473 - 07/15/23 01:01 PM (6 months, 10 days ago)

Interesting! IIRC buddhi also means intellect :nerd:

Edit-Buddhi (Sanskrit: बुद्धि) is derived from the Vedic Sanskrit root Budh (बुध् ), which literally means "to wake, be awake, observe, heed, attend, learn, become aware of, to know, be conscious again".[1] The term appears extensively in Rigveda and other Vedic literature.[1] Buddhi means, states Monier Williams, the power to "form, retain concepts; intelligence, reason, intellect, mind", the intellectual faculty and the ability to "discern, judge, comprehend, understand" something.[1][3]


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54. The true nature of things is to be known personally , through the eyes of clear illumination and not through a sage : what the moon exactly is , is to be known with one's own eyes ; can another make him know it?


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    #28396488 - 07/15/23 01:13 PM (6 months, 10 days ago)

I (pron.)
12c., a shortening of Old English ic, the first person singular nominative pronoun, from Proto-Germanic *ek (source also of Old Frisian ik, Old Norse ek, Norwegian eg, Danish jeg, Old High German ih, German ich, Gothic ik), from PIE *eg- "I," nominative form of the first person singular pronoun (source also of Sanskrit aham, Hittite uk, Latin ego (source of French Je), Greek ego, Russian ja, Lithuanian aš).


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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos] * 2
    #28397127 - 07/16/23 03:16 AM (6 months, 9 days ago)

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Interesting! IIRC buddhi also means intellect :nerd:




Makes sense!


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I (pron.)
12c., a shortening of Old English ic, the first person singular nominative pronoun, from Proto-Germanic *ek (source also of Old Frisian ik, Old Norse ek, Norwegian eg, Danish jeg, Old High German ih, German ich, Gothic ik), from PIE *eg- "I," nominative form of the first person singular pronoun (source also of Sanskrit aham, Hittite uk, Latin ego (source of French Je), Greek ego, Russian ja, Lithuanian aš).




Oh shit, you went right into this one- never considered checking the etymology for 'I'.
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    #28397131 - 07/16/23 03:22 AM (6 months, 9 days ago)

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connectedcosmos said:
Interesting! IIRC buddhi also means intellect :nerd:




Makes sense!


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I (pron.)
12c., a shortening of Old English ic, the first person singular nominative pronoun, from Proto-Germanic *ek (source also of Old Frisian ik, Old Norse ek, Norwegian eg, Danish jeg, Old High German ih, German ich, Gothic ik), from PIE *eg- "I," nominative form of the first person singular pronoun (source also of Sanskrit aham, Hittite uk, Latin ego (source of French Je), Greek ego, Russian ja, Lithuanian aš).




Oh shit, you went right into this one- never considered checking the etymology for 'I'.
:mindblown:




Agreed, incredible stuff. Well done!
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Re: Etymology [Re: solarshroomster] * 3
    #28397212 - 07/16/23 06:07 AM (6 months, 9 days ago)

Anybody ever tried a cybs salt tek?
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context (n.)
early 15c., "a composition, a chronicle, the entire text of a writing," from Latin contextus "a joining together," originally past participle of contexere "to weave together," from assimilated form of com "with, together" (see con-) + texere "to weave, to make" (from PIE root *teks- "to weave," also "to fabricate").

A classic that I cannot believe I've forgot to include!

psychedelic (adj.)
occasionally psychodelic, "producing expanded consciousness through heightened awareness and feeling," 1956, of drugs, suggested by British-born Canadian psychiatrist Humphry Osmond in a letter to Aldous Huxley and used by Osmond in a scientific paper published the next year; from Greek psykhē "mind" (see psyche) + dēloun "make visible, reveal" (from dēlos "visible, clear," from PIE root *dyeu- "to shine").


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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos] * 5
    #28397232 - 07/16/23 06:31 AM (6 months, 9 days ago)

Holy cow. :smile: It reminds me when we were trying to figure what was meant by tantra, and a concept found was a weaving together.

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The term "tantra" has its origins in ancient Indian traditions and has been a subject of various interpretations and meanings over the centuries. The etymology of the word "tantra" is derived from Sanskrit, an ancient Indo-Aryan language.

The term "tantra" is believed to come from the root word "tan," which means "to expand," "to extend," or "to weave." This root word reflects the idea of weaving together different aspects of existence to create a holistic understanding or experience. It implies the weaving together of various techniques, practices, and concepts to achieve spiritual growth, liberation, or enlightenment.

Additionally, "tantra" can also be understood as a combination of two words: "tanoti" and "trayati." "Tanoti" means "to expand," "to stretch," or "to liberate," while "trayati" means "to protect" or "to free from bondage." This interpretation further emphasizes the idea of liberation or freedom from limitations through the expansion of consciousness.

Overall, the etymology of the term "tantra" suggests a concept of expanding and weaving together various aspects of life, practices, and knowledge to attain spiritual growth, liberation, and transcendence.




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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #28397246 - 07/16/23 06:48 AM (6 months, 9 days ago)

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Re: Etymology [Re: syncro] * 2
    #28397252 - 07/16/23 06:53 AM (6 months, 9 days ago)

Nice syncro! Very cool :awesomenod:

Ahh yes -slav I learned that one from my research into Scandinavian history , it has to do with the enslavement of the Slavic people  by the Norsemen IIRC


existence (n.)
late 14c., "reality," from Old French existence, from Medieval Latin existentia/exsistentia, from existentem/exsistentem (nominative existens/exsistens) "existent," present participle of Latin existere/exsistere "stand forth, come out, emerge; appear, be visible, come to light; arise, be produced; turn into," and, as a secondary meaning, "exist, be;" from ex "forth" (see ex-) + sistere "cause to stand," from PIE *si-st-, reduplicated form of root *sta- "to stand, make or be firm."


To add on to the, to expand

Sanskrit (ब्रह्मन्) Brahman (an n-stem, nominative bráhma, from a root bṛh- "to swell, expand, grow, enlarge") is a neuter noun to be distinguished from the masculine brahmán—denoting a person associated with Brahman, and from Brahmā, the creator God in the Hindu Trinity, the Trimurti. Brahman is thus a gender-neutral concept that implies greater impersonality than masculine or feminine conceptions of the deity. Brahman is referred to as the supreme self. Puligandla states it as "the unchanging reality amidst and beyond the world",[24] while Sinar states Brahman is a concept that "cannot be exactly defined".[25]



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    #28397359 - 07/16/23 08:43 AM (6 months, 9 days ago)

As well, brahmin referring to the priestly class or kind of yogi. I didn't register at first but I guess we do use brahman to refer to a person high in that, different from the former and use of brahman as the ultimate itself.

Is that true? :headscratch: Saying that guy is a brahman, distinct from he is a brahmin.


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Re: Etymology [Re: syncro] * 1
    #28397366 - 07/16/23 08:48 AM (6 months, 9 days ago)

Yes Brahmin is specifically a priestly caste (a varna https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varna_(Hinduism)
While Brahman denotes more of a concept

I suppose one would say , he is a brahmin and he is brahman

Though being a brahmin is just a superimposition on consciousness:megacrankey: :kingcrankey:
:lol::awehigh:

I suppose even aham brahmasi is a superimposition,  it's kind of like nirvana or the concept of letting things go and negating all concepts , which is itself a damned concept ! :lol: desiring to not desire


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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos] * 1
    #28397387 - 07/16/23 09:01 AM (6 months, 9 days ago)

The Pathless Path :awesomenod::hereyougo:

path (n.)
Old English paþ, pæþ "narrow passageway or route across land, a track worn by the feet of people or animals treading it," from West Germanic *patha- (source also of Old Frisian path, Middle Dutch pat, Dutch pad, Old High German pfad, German Pfad "path"), a word of uncertain origin, not attested in Old Norse or Gothic.


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    #28397403 - 07/16/23 09:11 AM (6 months, 9 days ago)

Re: Brahman, also we have
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Re: Etymology [Re: connectedcosmos] * 2
    #28397412 - 07/16/23 09:18 AM (6 months, 9 days ago)

The pathless path

Look, it cannot be seen - it is beyond
form.
Listen, it cannot be heard - it is beyond
sound.
Grasp, it cannot be held - it is
intangible.
These three are indefinable;
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The term "Tao" has its roots in Chinese philosophy and is associated with Taoism, also known as Daoism. The etymology of "Tao" can be traced back to ancient Chinese characters.

The character for "Tao" is 道 in simplified Chinese or 道 in traditional Chinese. It consists of two parts: 辶 (chuo) on the left side, representing walking or moving, and 首 (shou) on the right side, which originally meant "head" but later took on the meaning of "chief" or "beginning."

The character 道 (Tao) is a combination of these two elements, and its original meaning refers to a path, a way, or a road. In the context of Taoism, it represents the fundamental principle or the underlying cosmic order that governs the universe. It is often translated as "the Way" or "the Way of Nature."

The concept of Tao in Taoism encompasses notions of harmony, balance, naturalness, and the interconnectedness of all things. It implies living in accordance with the natural order and finding one's place within it. The Tao is often associated with the concept of non-action (wu wei), which emphasizes the idea of spontaneous and effortless action in harmony with the flow of the Tao.

Overall, the etymology of "Tao" reflects its fundamental meaning as a path or a way, and it encompasses a broader philosophical and metaphysical concept in Taoist philosophy.




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    #28397418 - 07/16/23 09:22 AM (6 months, 9 days ago)

Or is pathless path more attributed to zen?

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The term "Zen" has its origins in East Asian Buddhism, particularly in the Chinese Chan tradition (known as "Seon" in Korean and "Thiền" in Vietnamese). The etymology of "Zen" can be traced back to its Chinese counterpart, "Chan" (禪).

The Chinese character 禪 (Chan) is composed of two parts: 示 (shi) on the left side, representing "altar" or "spiritual matters," and 䍃 (dan) on the right side, which originally meant "to work with silk threads." Together, they convey the idea of focusing one's mind on spiritual matters or engaging in meditation.

"Chan" was later introduced to Japan, where it became known as "Zen." The term "Zen" is derived from the Japanese pronunciation of the Chinese character 禪 (Chan). Over time, Zen Buddhism developed its unique characteristics and practices in Japan, influenced by both Chinese Chan Buddhism and indigenous Japanese culture.

The essence of Zen is the direct experience and realization of one's true nature or Buddha nature through meditation and mindfulness. Zen emphasizes direct insight into the nature of reality beyond conceptual thinking, often through intensive meditation practices such as zazen (seated meditation) and koan study (paradoxical questions or statements meant to provoke insight).

In summary, "Zen" is the Japanese term for the Chinese word "Chan," which refers to a specific branch of Buddhism that emphasizes direct experiential insight and meditation. Its etymology suggests the focus on spiritual matters and the practice of meditation to attain profound realization.




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    #28398305 - 07/17/23 04:34 AM (6 months, 8 days ago)

"I suppose even aham brahmasi is a superimposition,  it's kind of like nirvana or the concept of letting things go and negating all concepts , which is itself a damned concept ! :lol: desiring to not desire"

:yesnod: The correct concepts are cool to keep and use. (loving-like is eternal)

Judging them by their fruits, it is seen the good ones lead to peace or manolaya, annihilation (of superimposition), etc.


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Re: Etymology [Re: syncro] * 1
    #28398340 - 07/17/23 06:10 AM (6 months, 8 days ago)

Definitely one of the reasons I think reality is so , paradoxical it's almost as if it's meant to not make total sense

concept (n.)
"a general notion, the immediate object of a thought," 1550s, from Medieval Latin conceptum "draft, abstract," in classical Latin "(a thing) conceived," from concep-, past-participle stem of concipere "to take in and hold; become pregnant," from con-, here perhaps an intensive prefix (see con-), + combining form of capere "to take" (from PIE root *kap- "to grasp"). In some 16c. cases a refashioning of conceit, perhaps to avoid negative connotations that had begun to cling to that word.

conceive (v.)
late 13c., conceiven, "take (seed) into the womb, become pregnant," from stem of Old French conceveir (Modern French concevoir), from Latin concipere (past participle conceptus) "to take in and hold; become pregnant" (source also of Spanish concebir, Portuguese concebre, Italian concepere), from con-, here perhaps an intensive prefix (see con-), + combining form of capere "to take" (from PIE root *kap- "to grasp").


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    #28398551 - 07/17/23 10:05 AM (6 months, 8 days ago)

Those sneaky concepts.
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Re: Etymology [Re: syncro] * 2
    #28398556 - 07/17/23 10:12 AM (6 months, 8 days ago)

:strokebeard:

sneak (v.)
1550s (implied in sneakish), "creep or steal about privately; move or go in a stealthy, slinking way" (intransitive); perhaps from some dialectal survival of Middle English sniken "to creep, crawl" (c. 1200), which is from Old English snican "to sneak along, creep, crawl," from Proto-Germanic *sneikanan, which is related to the root of snail and snake (n.).

I think of the ouroborus:awesomenod:


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    #28399480 - 07/18/23 08:13 AM (6 months, 7 days ago)

I had recently been perusing materials seeing ouroboros.

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The origins of the Ouroboros symbol are not attributed to a specific time or culture, as similar symbols have appeared independently in various ancient civilizations throughout history. Here are some notable instances of the Ouroboros across different cultures:

    Ancient Egypt: The Ouroboros symbol can be traced back to ancient Egyptian mythology and iconography. It is associated with the god Atum-Ra, who was often depicted as a serpent or a dragon biting its own tail. The Ouroboros represented the concept of cyclic renewal, creation, and the eternal nature of the universe.

    Norse Mythology: In Norse mythology, the Ouroboros-like symbol called "Jormungandr" appears as a gigantic sea serpent that encircles the world and bites its own tail. Jormungandr is a prominent figure in Norse cosmology and is seen as a symbol of chaos, destruction, and the cycle of life and death.

    Greek and Gnostic Traditions: The Ouroboros is closely associated with ancient Greek mythology and philosophy. It is believed to have originated from the teachings of the ancient Greek philosopher Heraclitus, who spoke of the eternal cyclical nature of the universe. The Gnostics, a mystical sect influenced by both Greek and Egyptian traditions, also adopted the Ouroboros as a symbol representing the cycle of birth, death, and rebirth.

    Chinese and Hindu Mythologies: Similar circular serpent motifs can be found in Chinese and Hindu mythologies, although they are not strictly identical to the Ouroboros. In Chinese mythology, the dragon symbolizes cosmic power and often appears in a circular or coiled form. In Hindu mythology, the cosmic serpent Shesha, upon which the god Vishnu rests, is depicted in a circular or coiled shape.

The recurring theme of a serpent or dragon biting its own tail and symbolizing cyclic renewal and the interconnectedness of all things is found in diverse cultures worldwide. The specific term "Ouroboros" emerged from the ancient Greek tradition and has since been used to describe this symbol in various contexts.




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    #28401896 - 07/20/23 03:45 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

material (adj.)
mid-14c., "real, ordinary; earthly, drawn from the material world" (contrasted with spiritual, mental, supernatural), a term in scholastic philosophy and theology, from Old French material, materiel (14c.) and directly from Late Latin materialis (adj.) "of or belonging to matter," from Latin materia "matter, stuff, wood, timber" (see matter (n.)).

Interesting :strokebeard:

matter (n.)
c. 1200, materie, "the subject of a mental act or a course of thought, speech, or expression," from Anglo-French matere, Old French matere "subject, theme, topic; substance, content; character, education" (12c., Modern French matière) and directly from Latin materia "substance from which something is made," also "hard inner wood of a tree." According to de Vaan and Watkins, this is from mater "origin, source, mother" (see mother (n.1)). The sense developed and expanded in Latin in philosophy by influence of Greek hylē (see hylo-) "wood, firewood," in a general sense "material," used by Aristotle for "matter" in the philosophical sense.


:awemazing:  Is it matter? Does it matter ? It's my mater ! Can I measure it?


measure (v.)
early 14c., mesuren, "to exercise moderation;" mid-14c., "to deal out or divide up by measure," also "to ascertain spatial dimensions, quantity, or capacity of by comparison with a standard;" from Old French mesurer "measure; moderate, curb" (12c.), from Late Latin mensurare "to measure," from Latin mensura "a measuring, a measurement; thing to measure by," from mensus, past participle of metiri "to measure," from PIE root *me- (2) "to measure." The native verb is mete. Intransitive sense of "to be of a (specified) measure" is from 1670s. To measure up "have the necessary abilities" is 1910, American English. Related: Measured; measuring.

also from early 14c.


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    #28402031 - 07/20/23 06:08 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

mother (n.1)

"female parent, a woman in relation to her child," Middle English moder, from Old English modor, from Proto-Germanic *mōdēr (source also of Old Saxon modar, Old Frisian moder, Old Norse moðir, Danish moder, Dutch moeder, Old High German muoter, German Mutter), from PIE *mater- "mother" (source also of Latin māter, Old Irish mathir, Lithuanian motė, Sanskrit matar-, Greek mētēr, Old Church Slavonic mati). Watkins writes that this is "based ultimately on the baby-talk form *mā- (2); with the kinship term suffix *-ter-." The spelling with -th- dates from early 16c., though that pronunciation is probably older (compare father (n.)).

The sense of "that which has given birth to anything" is from late Old English; as a familiar term of address to an elderly woman, especially of the lower class, by c. 1200.

Mother Nature as a personification is attested from c. 1600; mother earth as an expression of the earth as the giver of life is from 1580s. Mother tongue "one's native language" is attested from late 14c. Mother country "a country in relation to its colonies" is from 1580s. Mother-love "such affection as is shown by a mother" is by 1854. Mother-wit "native wit, common sense" is from mid-15c.

Mother of all ________ (1991), is Gulf War slang, from Saddam Hussein's use in reference to the coming battle; it is an Arabic idiom (as well as an English one); Ayesha, second wife of Muhammad, is known as Mother of Believers; the figure is attested in English in 19c. (Virginia is called mother of commonwealths from 1849). Mother Carey's chickens is late 18c. sailors' nickname for storm petrels, or for snowflakes.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/mother


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    #28402433 - 07/21/23 03:31 AM (6 months, 4 days ago)

Etymology related, but of an unrecognized language, may be applicable to 'Catastrophe'. The Cat-Ass-Trophy may be a product of a broken vow; specifically "Till death do you part", affording the agrieved party an opportunity to enjoy a younger piece of "ass".


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    #28402440 - 07/21/23 03:48 AM (6 months, 4 days ago)

:datass:

catastrophe (n.)
1530s, "reversal of what is expected" (especially a fatal turning point in a drama, the winding up of the plot), from Latin catastropha, from Greek katastrophē "an overturning; a sudden end," from katastrephein "to overturn, turn down, trample on; to come to an end," from kata "down" (see cata-) + strephein "turn" (from PIE root *streb(h)- "to wind, turn"). The extension to "sudden disaster" is attested from 1748.


Absolutely cool , love the connection into drama and playwriting!

person (n.)
c. 1200, persoun, "an individual, a human being," from Old French persone "human being, anyone, person" (12c., Modern French personne) and directly from Latin persona "human being, person, personage; a part in a drama, assumed character," originally "a mask, a false face," such as those of wood or clay, covering the whole head, worn by the actors in later Roman theater. OED offers the general 19c. explanation of persona as "related to" Latin personare "to sound through" (i.e. the mask as something spoken through and perhaps amplifying the voice), "but the long o makes a difficulty ...." Klein and Barnhart say it is possibly borrowed from Etruscan phersu "mask." De Vaan has no entry for it.


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    #28403095 - 07/21/23 04:15 PM (6 months, 4 days ago)

ketchup (n.)
1680s, also spelled catsup which form first appeared in Jonathan Swift's 1730 poem A Panegyrick on the D--n.  This spelling is still in use in U.S., influenced by cat and sup.

In some of the earliest uses described as an East Indian sauce made with fruits and spices, with spelling catchup. If this stated origin is correct, it might be from Tulu kajipu, meaning "curry" and said to derive from kaje, "to chew." Yet the word, usually spelled ketchup, is also described in early use as something resembling anchovies or soy sauce. It is said in modern sources to be from Malay (Austronesian) kichap, a fish sauce, possibly from Chinese koechiap "brine of fish," which, if correct, perhaps is from the Chinese community in northern Vietnam [Terrien de Lacouperie, in "Babylonian and Oriental Record," 1889, 1890].


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    #28403472 - 07/22/23 02:28 AM (6 months, 3 days ago)

Mmmm..... Koechiap....

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    #28403583 - 07/22/23 07:17 AM (6 months, 3 days ago)

A rather random etymology :awehigh:

It could spring at any moment .... the question where does that word come from!?!

Even while out to eat :lol:

random (adj.)
1650s, "having no definite aim or purpose, haphazard, not sent in a special direction," from phrase at random (1560s), "at great speed" (thus, "carelessly, haphazardly"), from an alteration of the Middle English noun randon, randoun "impetuosity; speed" (c. 1300). This is from Old French randon "rush, disorder, force, impetuosity," from randir "to run fast," from Frankish *rant "a running" or some other Germanic source, from Proto-Germanic *randa (source also of Old High German rennen "to run," Old English rinnan "to flow, to run;" see run (v.)). For spelling shift of -n to -m, compare seldom, ransom.


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    #28403838 - 07/22/23 12:18 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

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It could spring at any moment .... the question where does that word come from!?!




You're not wrong dude!
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    #28403855 - 07/22/23 12:41 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

Well something will

inspire (v.)
mid-14c., enspiren, "to fill (the mind, heart, etc., with grace, etc.);" also "to prompt or induce (someone to do something)," from Old French enspirer (13c.), from Latin inspirare "blow into, breathe upon," figuratively "inspire, excite, inflame," from in- "in" (from PIE root *en "in") + spirare "to breathe" (see spirit (n.)).


you eventually

It'll be like taking a breath of fresh air

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    #28403862 - 07/22/23 12:45 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

Entheogen

Entheos literally means "god (theos) within", translates as "inspired" and is the root of the English word "enthusiasm".

Genesthe means "to generate".

So an entheogen is "that which generates God (or godly inspiration) within a person".

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    #28403928 - 07/22/23 01:46 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

substance (n.)

c. 1300, "essential nature, real or essential part," from Old French sustance, substance "goods, possessions; nature, composition" (12c.), from Latin substantia "being, essence, material," from substans, present participle of substare "stand firm, stand or be under, be present," from sub "up to, under" (see sub-) + stare "to stand," from PIE root *sta- "to stand, make or be firm."

Latin substantia translates Greek ousia "that which is one's own, one's substance or property; the being, essence, or nature of anything." Meaning "any kind of corporeal matter" is first attested mid-14c. Sense of "the matter of a study, discourse, etc." first recorded late 14c.
also from c. 1300

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sauciness (n.) -> saucy (adj.)

c. 1500, "resembling sauce" (a sense now obsolete), later, of persons, words, etc., "impertinent in speech or conduct, flippantly bold, cheeky" (1520s), from sauce (n.) + -y (2). The connecting notion is sauce in the figurative sense of "that which adds intensity, piquancy in words or actions."

Compare Skelton's have eaten sauce for "be abusive." Also compare sauce malapert "impertinence" (1520s), and sauce (n.) in its obsolete use as a vocative for "impudent person" (1530s).  In Shakespeare, with overtones of "wanton, lascivious," it was "a term of serious condemnation" [OED]. Also compare salty in similar senses.
also from c. 1500

petulance (n.)

c. 1600, "insolence, immodesty, rudeness," from French pétulance (early 16c.), from Latin petulantia "sauciness, impudence," abstract noun from petulantem (see petulant). Meaning "peevishness" is recorded by 1784, from influence of pettish, etc. It displaced earlier petulancy (1550s in the first sense, 1712 in the second).


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    #28404129 - 07/22/23 04:00 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

quality (n.)

c. 1300, qualite, "temperament, character, disposition," from Old French calite, qualite "quality, nature, characteristic" (12c., Modern French qualité), from Latin qualitatem (nominative qualitas) "a quality, property; nature, state, condition" (said [Tucker, etc.] to have been coined by Cicero to translate Greek poiotēs), from qualis "what kind of a" (from PIE root *kwo-, stem of relative and interrogative pronouns).

In early use, and for long thereafter, with awareness of the word's use in Aristotelian philosophy. From late 14c. as "an inherent attribute," also "degree of goodness or excellence." Meaning "social rank, position" is c. 1400, hence "nobility, gentry." From 1580s as "a distinguished and characteristic excellence."

Noun phrase quality time "time spent giving undivided attention to another person to build a relationship" is recorded by 1977. Quality of life "degree to which a person is healthy and able to participate in or enjoy life events" is from 1943. Quality control "maintenance of desired quality in a manufactured product" is attested from 1935.
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Guṇa (Sanskrit: गुण) is a concept in Hinduism and Sikhism, which can be translated as "quality, peculiarity, attribute, property".[1][2]

The concept is originally notable as a feature of Samkhya philosophy.[3] The guṇas are now a key concept in nearly all schools of Hindu philosophy.[4] There are three guṇas, according to this worldview, that have always been and continue to be present in all things and beings in the world.[4] These three guṇas are called: sattva (goodness, calmness, harmonious), rajas (passion, activity, movement), and tamas (ignorance, inertia, laziness).[5] All of these three guṇas are present in everyone and everything, it is the proportion that is different, according to Hindu worldview. The interplay of these guṇas defines the character of someone or something, of nature and determines the progress of life.[4][6]

In some contexts, it may mean "a subdivision, species, kind, quality", or an operational principle or tendency of something or someone.[6] In human behavior studies, Guna means personality, innate nature and psychological attributes of an individual.[7][8][9]

Like all Sanskrit technical terms, guṇa can be difficult to summarize in a single word. Its original and common meaning is a thread, implying the original materials that weave together to make up reality. The usual, but approximate translation in common usage is "a quality" (wiki)


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    #28409844 - 07/27/23 03:53 AM (5 months, 29 days ago)




Some interesting etymology in this :strokebeard:  might refer to the pathless path slightly :megacrankey: :awehigh:

junction (n.)
1711, "act of joining," from Latin iunctionem (nominative iunctio) "a joining, uniting," noun of action from past-participle stem of iungere "to join together" (from nasalized form of PIE root *yeug- "to join"). Meaning "place where two or more things come into union or are joined" first attested 1836, American English, originally in reference to railroad tracks.

also from 1711


It is the hypothetical source of/evidence for its existence is provided by: Sanskrit yugam "yoke," yunjati "binds, harnesses," yogah "union;" Hittite yugan "yoke;" Greek zygon "yoke," zeugnyanai "to join, unite;" Latin iungere "to join," iugum "yoke;" Old Church Slavonic igo, Old Welsh iou "yoke;" Lithuanian jungas "yoke," jungti "to fasten to a yoke;" Old English geoc "yoke."


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    #28410949 - 07/27/23 09:37 PM (5 months, 28 days ago)

Alan Watts is taking the not doing sadhana a little too far. He's pushing my buttons :lol: but I liked his acknowledgement and description. The distinction I think is around the collapsing of time. In linear time, we do our stuff for a result, sort of, maybe less so.

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remember (v.)

mid-14c., remembren, "keep or bear (something or someone) in mind, retain in the memory, preserve unforgotten," from Old French remembrer "remember, recall, bring to mind" (11c.), from Latin rememorari "recall to mind, remember," from re- "again" (see re-) + memorari "be mindful of," from memor "mindful" (from PIE root *(s)mer- (1) "to remember").

The meaning "recall to mind, bring again to the memory" is from late 14c.; the sense of "to mention" is from 1550s. Also in Middle English "to remind" (someone), "bring back the memory of" (something to someone); "give an account, narrate," and in passive constructions such as hit remembreth me "I remember." An Anglo-Saxon verb for it was gemunan.

The insertion of -b- between -m- and a following consonant (especially where a vowel has dropped out) is regular: compare number (n.), chamber (n.), humble (adj.).

    Remember implies that a thing exists in the memory, not that it is actually present in the thoughts at the moment, but that it recurs without effort. Recollect means that a fact, forgotten or partially lost to memory, is after some effort recalled and present to the mind. Remembrance is the store-house, recollection the act of culling out this article and that from the repository. He remembers everything he hears, and can recollect any statement when called on. The words, however, are often confounded, and we say we cannot remember a thing when we mean we cannot recollect it. [Century Dictionary, 1895]

In complimentary messages, "remember (one) to (another), recall one to the remembrance of another," as in remember me to your family, is attested from 1550s.

abide (v.)

Middle English abiden, from Old English abidan, gebidan "remain, wait, wait for, delay, remain behind," from ge- completive prefix (denoting onward motion; see a- (1)) + bidan "bide, remain, wait, dwell" (see bide).

Originally intransitive (with genitive of the object: we abidon his "we waited for him"); the transitive senses of "endure, sustain, stay firm under," also "tolerate, bear, put up with" (now usually with a negative) are from c. 1200. To abide with "stay with (someone); live with; remain in the service of" is from c. 1300.

Related: Abided; abiding. The historical conjugation was abide, abode, abidden, but in Modern English the formation generally is weak.

concentrate (v.)

1630s, "to bring or come to a common center," from concenter (1590s), from Italian concentrare, from assimilated form of Latin com "with, together" (see con-) + centrum "center" (see center (n.)).

Meaning "condense" is from 1680s; that of "intensify the action of" is from 1758. Sense of "mentally focus" is from 1860s, on the notion of "concentrate the mind or mental powers." Related: Concentrated; concentrating.
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    #28410966 - 07/27/23 09:54 PM (5 months, 28 days ago)

It as celebration does pretty well in resolving it.


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    #28410986 - 07/27/23 10:14 PM (5 months, 28 days ago)

I don't understand how you are this incredible of a person.


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    #28411100 - 07/28/23 12:27 AM (5 months, 28 days ago)

I'll take it! The sentiment. Thank you. It is given and multiplied.


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    #28411283 - 07/28/23 06:13 AM (5 months, 28 days ago)

I wonder if he more or less means by that whole bit is by practicing religion such as mantras and prayer etc , you create a dualism, as a seeker of something or that there is somewhere to go or something to achieve.. your just getting further lost into playing the game

when in reality it's always there it's always been there and you can't escape it

As he says when you sharpen a knife so much it breaks , so what comes up must come down - one cannot always improve themselves as there has to be a push back to even see improvement

I could be rambling here or wrong thats the way I'm seeing it right now:awehigh:


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    #28411401 - 07/28/23 08:54 AM (5 months, 28 days ago)

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I wonder if he more or less means by that whole bit is by practicing religion such as mantras and prayer etc , you create a dualism, as a seeker of something or that there is somewhere to go or something to achieve.. your just getting further lost into playing the game

when in reality it's always there it's always been there and you can't escape it

As he says when you sharpen a knife so much it breaks , so what comes up must come down - one cannot always improve themselves as there has to be a push back to even see improvement

I could be rambling here or wrong thats the way I'm seeing it right now:awehigh:





Connectedcosmos, what you say is so beautiful and so true. Thank you... I know exactly what you're talking about. Was thinking about the same thing myself last night...


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    #28411611 - 07/28/23 11:47 AM (5 months, 28 days ago)

thank you 
It might not be true for everybody , but if it makes sense then it makes sense :wink: truth is a strange thing ..


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    #28411673 - 07/28/23 12:52 PM (5 months, 28 days ago)

I think, where there is obscuration, ignorance of ourselves, need of healing, then something is needed to change it, be the obscurations illusory, and if the method is non-method as just pointing at the moon. There are healthy and 'enlightening' acts and means, psychedelics, sadhana, study.

These are all sadhana, actions for results. Only Brahman doesn't need sadhana, but there is only Brahman! We have already set up the dualism in obscurations. To say, just Be, or just witness, and to hear it, is sadhana, like saying Tat Tvam Asi, Thou Art That. :heart:

Those greatest adherents to sadhana also address using means, or mind to 'kill' mind, as using a thorn to remove another thorn.


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    #28411828 - 07/28/23 04:37 PM (5 months, 28 days ago)

I cannot deny that all of my personality and even the very way I think day to day has changed within the last two years

And I cannot say I learned it on my own , I had learned it from the teachers who have spoke words that will be relevant for as long as mankind is here

Things that used to drive me insane no longer do , finding out how to let go and realizing one creates so much mental suffering on their own account has helped me tremendously

I will forever remain endebted to the path and the teachings that have been around since the days of oral tradition

:heart:

Going to share another alan watts video , it's about 50 minutes I've watched it twice now in 4 different sittings and it really makes me smile :smile:

The path to enlightment, mainly about buddhism

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    #28414692 - 07/31/23 02:26 AM (5 months, 25 days ago)

Satcitananda (सच्चिदानन्द) is a compounded Sanskrit word consisting of "sat", "chit", and "ananda", all three considered as inseparable from the nature of ultimate reality called Brahman in Hinduism. The different forms of spelling is driven by euphonic (sandhi) rules of Sanskrit, useful in different contexts.

    sat (सत्): In Sanskrit, sat means "being, existence", "real, actual", "true, good, right", or "that which really is, existence, essence, true being, really existent, good, true".

    cit (चित्): means "consciousness" or "spirit".

    ānanda (आनन्द): means "happiness, joy, bliss", "pure happiness, one of three attributes of Atman or Brahman in the Vedanta philosophy". Loctefeld and other scholars translate ananda as "bliss".

Satcitananda is therefore translated as "truth consciousness bliss", "reality consciousness bliss", or "Existence Consciousness Bliss".


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    #28414735 - 07/31/23 04:49 AM (5 months, 25 days ago)

^Awesome one, spinvis!
Much of Sanskrit has very interesting origins/composition:awesomenod:


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    #28414767 - 07/31/23 06:12 AM (5 months, 25 days ago)

Thanks for sharing spinvis !



Nice avatar Lithop, did you take that picture? I can see the nebula :awemazing:


Orion
conspicuous constellation containing seven bright starts in a distinctive pattern, late 14c., orioun, ultimately from Greek Oriōn, Oariōn, name of a giant hunter in Greek mythology, loved by Aurora, slain by Artemis, a name of unknown origin, though some speculate on Akkadian Uru-anna "the Light of Heaven."

Sanskrit (n.)
also Sanscrit, ancient sacred language of India, 1610s, from Sanskrit samskrtam "put together, well-formed, perfected," neuter of samskrta, from sam "together" (from PIE root *sem- (1) "one; as one, together with") + krta- "to make, do, perform" (from PIE *kwer- "to make, form;" see terato-). "[S]o called as being the cultivated or literary language, distinguished from the vulgar dialects, or, some say, because regarded as a perfect language, the speech of the gods, formed by infallible rules" [Century Dictionary]. It continued as a learned tongue long after it ceased to exist as a vernacular.


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    #28414814 - 07/31/23 07:44 AM (5 months, 25 days ago)

Nice Orion etymology :yesnod:
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Nice avatar Lithop, did you take that picture? I can see the nebula :awemazing:




Thanks, I did mate.
Got a really blessed spot for stargazing, especially light pollution wise. Would get dabbed out and start at Orions belt every night last Winter/Spring, gradually working across and seeing what planets & constellations could be found.
It's so sick, I eventually want to get a semi-decent telescope so I can really get a bit more immersed in some juicy space stuff:vaped:
BUT I'd kind of like to be able to use the scope for nature-based viewing, so ease of use, portability and a decent price are all factors...
Not asking TOO much eh?
:rolleyes: :lol:
So a lot of boring spec-comparisons & general researching is needed...

I digress:
'Constellation'
From the early 14th century word 'Constellacioun' meaning "Position of a planet in the Zodiac" or "One of the recognised star patterns handed down through antiquity" from the old French 'constellacion' which took directly from late Latin constellationem.
Etymology online says of 'Constellatonem': "(nominative constellatio) "a collection of stars," especially as supposed to exert influence on human affairs," from constellatus "set with stars," from assimilated form of Latin com "with, together" (see con-) + past participle of stellare "to shine," from stella "star" (from PIE root *ster- (2) "star").
The oldest sense is astrological, of the position of planets ("stars") relative to the zodiac signs on a given day, usually the day of one's birth, as a determiner of one's character. "I folwed ay myn inclinacioun/By vertu of my constillacioun" (Chaucer, "Wife's Prologue," c. 1386). In modern use "a group of fixed stars to which a definite name has been given but does not form part of another named group (compare asterism). Figuratively, "any assemblage of a brilliant or distinguished character"(1630s)."

Rad.

'Aurora Borealis'

'Aurora', noun, originating from the Proto-Indo-European root 'Aus' or 'Ausus' meaning "to shine" & "the dawn" being then used as the name of both Roman and Indo-European Goddess of Dawn.
Coupled with 'Borealis' also a noun, coming from 'Boreas, God of the North Wind' or 'Boreal' which allegedly has connotations with both Sanskrit and Lithuanian words 'Giri' or 'Gire' with meanings based around mountain or forest- which makes sense if you think of 'Arboreal' like tree climber. 
Anyway the two combine to mean "Northern Lights" or "Northern Dawn"

Aurora got me thinking of:
'Aura'
Which in its Greek form was used to denote "Breath, cool breeze" or "Air in motion" being derived from the Proto-Indo-European root 'Wer' with meaning "to hold suspended, lift or raise".
Etymology online says: "It forms all or part of: aerate; aeration; aerial; aero-; aerobics; aerophyte; aerosol; air (n.1) "invisible gases that surround the earth;" airy; aorta; anaerobic; aria; arterial; arterio-; arteriosclerosis; arteriole; artery; aura; malaria; meteor." pretty dank.
Over time, aura became synonymous with the description of "A subtle emination around living beings."

And after aura, I couldn't help myself:
'Woo woo'
'Woowoo'- or just 'Woo'- is an informal term, often used in a derogatory way to discredit or make fun of, unconventional beliefs related to spirituality and mysticism, or explanations that are rooted far outside of scientific understanding.
My favourite thing about it, is that it was allegedly coined in the 1980's and the term itsself is meant to denote the noise a Ghost makes :lmafo:


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    #28417136 - 08/02/23 07:36 AM (5 months, 23 days ago)

Jñāna
From the root ज्ञा (jñā, “to know, be aware of”) + -अन (-ana).
Pronunciation

    (Vedic): /d͡ʑɲɑ́ː.nɐ/
    (Classical): /ˈd͡ʑɲɑː.n̪ɐ/

Noun

ज्ञान • (jñāna) n

    1. knowing, becoming acquainted with, knowledge, (esp.) the higher knowledge (in Buddhism, pure awareness free from conceptual constructs; in Hinduism, true knowledge of the Self's identity with the Ultimate Reality)
    2. "knowledge about anything cognizance" (compare ज्ञानतस् (jñānatas) and अज्ञान (ajñāna))

        ज्ञानाद् अज्ञानाद् वा ― jñānād ajñānād vā ― knowingly or ignorantly

    3. conscience
    4. = ज्ञानेन्द्रिय (jñānendriya)
    5. engaging in (+ genitive, e.g. सर्पिषस् (sarpiṣas, “in sacrifice with clarified butter”))
    6. name of a shakti



Śūnyatā
/ʃuːnˈjɑːtɑː/ shoon-YAH-tah; Sanskrit: शून्यता, romanized: śūnyatā; Pali: suññatā

(Sanskrit) is usually translated as "devoidness", "emptiness", "hollow", "hollowness", "voidness". It is the noun form of the adjective śūnya, plus -tā:

    - śūnya, in the context of buddha dharma, primarily means "empty", or "void," but also means "zero," and "nothing," and derives from the root śvi, meaning "hollow"
    - -tā is a suffix denoting a quality or state of being, equivalent to English "-ness"


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    #28417201 - 08/02/23 08:39 AM (5 months, 23 days ago)

I searched this word after reading a teaching implying, ~'Don't rally with the forces of ignorance. First find God...'

rally (v.1)

"bring together or into order again by urgent effort," c. 1600, from French rallier, from Old French ralier "reassemble, unite again," from re- "again" (see re-) + alier "unite" (see ally (v.)).

In Old French (and Italian), re- often appeared as ra- by confusion with the true ra- (from Latin re- + ad-), and the following consonant often was doubled; compare rabbet (a doublet of rebate), rappel (a doublet of repeal). But as ra- was not recognized in English as a prefix, words with ra- in Old French usually returned to re- in English; Rally and rabbet never were because the accent had receded. In later borrowings (rappel, rapprochement, etc.) the words tend to keep their French forms.

Intransitive meaning "pull together hastily, recover order, revive, rouse" is from 1660s. Related: Rallied; rallying. Rallying-point "place at or about which persons come together for action" is by 1798. Rally round the flag (1862) is a line from popular American Civil War song "Battle Cry of Freedom."

ignorance (n.) -> ignorant (adj.)

late 14c., "lacking wisdom or knowledge; unaware," from Old French ignorant (14c.), from Latin ignorantem (nominative ignorans) "not knowing, ignorant," present participle of ignorare "not to know, to be unacquainted; mistake, misunderstand; take no notice of, pay no attention to," from assimilated form of in- "not, opposite of" (see in- (1)) + Old Latin gnarus "aware, acquainted with" (source also of Classical Latin noscere "to know," notus "known"), from Proto-Latin suffixed form *gno-ro-, suffixed form of PIE root *gno- "to know." Also see uncouth.

Form influenced by related Latin ignotus "unknown, strange, unrecognized, unfamiliar." Colloquial sense of "ill-mannered, uncouth, knowing nothing of good manners" attested by 1886. As a noun, "ignorant person," from mid-15c. Related: Ignorantly.
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    #28418198 - 08/03/23 03:54 AM (5 months, 22 days ago)

From wiki

Bhavachakra, "wheel of life,"[a] consists of the words bhava and cakra.

bhava (भव) means "being, worldly existence, becoming, birth, being, production, origin".[web 1]

In Buddhism, bhava denotes the continuity of becoming (reincarnating) in one of the realms of existence, in the samsaric context of rebirth, life and the maturation arising therefrom.[2] It is the tenth of the Twelve Nidanas, in its Pratītyasamutpāda doctrine.[3]

The word Chakra (चक्र) derives from the Sanskrit word meaning "wheel," as well as "circle" and "cycle".[4]

The word chakra is used to mean several different things in the Sanskrit sources:[5]


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    #28424622 - 08/07/23 05:36 PM (5 months, 18 days ago)

enjoy (v.)

late 14c., "rejoice, be glad" (intransitive), from stem of Old French enjoir "to give joy, rejoice, take delight in," from en- "make" (see en- (1)) + joir "enjoy," from Latin gaudere "rejoice" (see joy); Sense of "have the use or benefit of" first recorded early 15c. (replacing Old English brucan, for which see brook (v.)).

Transitive meaning "take pleasure in" is mid-15c. In modern use it has a tendency to lose its connection with pleasure: newspaper photo captions say someone enjoys an ice cream cone, etc., when all she is doing is eating it, and Wright's "English Dialect Dictionary" (1900) reports widespread use in north and west England of the phrase to enjoy bad health for one who has ailments. Meaning "have sexual relations with" (a woman) is from 1590s. Related: Enjoyed; enjoys; enjoying. To enjoy oneself "feel pleasure or satisfaction in one's mind" attested by 1708.
also from late 14c.

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brook (v.)

"to endure," Old English brucan "to use, enjoy the use of, possess; eat; cohabit with," from Proto-Germanic *brukjanan "to make use of, enjoy" (source also of Old Saxon brukan, Old Frisian bruka "to use, practice," Dutch gebruiken "to use," Old High German bruhhan, German brauchen "to use, need," Gothic brukjan), from PIE root *bhrug- "to enjoy." The sense of "use" as applied to food led to that of "be able to digest," and by 16c. to "endure, tolerate," always in a negative sense. The original meanings have become obsolete.

en- (1)

word-forming element meaning "in; into," from French and Old French en-, from Latin in- "in, into" (from PIE root *en "in"). Typically assimilated before -p-, -b-, -m-, -l-, and -r-. Latin in- became en- in French, Spanish, Portuguese, but remained in- in Italian.

Also used with native and imported elements to form verbs from nouns and adjectives, with a sense "put in or on" (encircle), also "cause to be, make into" (endear), and used as an intensive (enclose). Spelling variants in French that were brought over into Middle English account for parallels such as ensure/insure, and most en- words in English had at one time or another a variant in in-, and vice versa.


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    #28433155 - 08/14/23 03:58 AM (5 months, 11 days ago)

science (n.)
mid-14c., "state or fact of knowing; what is known, knowledge (of something) acquired by study; information;" also "assurance of knowledge, certitude, certainty," from Old French science "knowledge, learning, application; corpus of human knowledge" (12c.), from Latin scientia "knowledge, a knowing; expertness," from sciens (genitive scientis) "intelligent, skilled," present participle of scire "to know."

The original notion in the Latin verb probably is "to separate one thing from another, to distinguish," or else "to incise." This is related to scindere "to cut, divide" (from PIE root *skei- "to cut, split;" source also of Greek skhizein "to split, rend, cleave," Gothic skaidan, Old English sceadan "to divide, separate")

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    #28433156 - 08/14/23 03:59 AM (5 months, 11 days ago)

I cannot believe I've forgot this one ...

atom (n.)
late 15c., as a hypothetical indivisible extremely minute body, the building block of the universe, from Latin atomus (especially in Lucretius) "indivisible particle," from Greek atomos "uncut, unhewn; indivisible," from a- "not" (see a- (3)) + tomos "a cutting," from temnein "to cut" (from PIE root *tem- "to cut").

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    #28433247 - 08/14/23 06:34 AM (5 months, 11 days ago)

In the inner dialogue the spiritual path ran by as enterprise.

enterprise (n.)

early 15c., "an undertaking," formerly also enterprize, from Old French enterprise "an undertaking," noun use of fem. past participle of entreprendre "undertake, take in hand" (12c.), from entre- "between" (see entre-) + prendre "to take," contraction of prehendere "to catch hold of, seize" (from prae- "before," see pre-, + -hendere, from PIE root *ghend- "to seize, take"). Abstract sense of "adventurous disposition, readiness to undertake challenges, spirit of daring" is from late 15c.
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entre-

in words from French, corresponds to English enter-, which is itself from French entre "between, among" (11c.), from Latin inter (see inter-).
*ghend-

also *ghed-, Proto-Indo-European root meaning "to seize, to take."

It forms all or part of: apprehend; apprentice; apprise; beget; comprehend; comprehension; comprehensive; comprise; depredate; depredation; emprise; enterprise; entrepreneur; forget; get; guess; impresario; misprision; osprey; predatory; pregnable; prehensile; prehension; prey; prison; prize (n.2) "something taken by force;" pry (v.2) "raise by force;" reprehend; reprieve; reprisal; reprise; spree; surprise.

It is the hypothetical source of/evidence for its existence is provided by: Greek khandanein "to hold, contain;" Lithuanian godėtis "be eager;" second element in Latin prehendere "to grasp, seize;" Welsh gannu "to hold, contain;" Russian za-gadka "riddle;" Old Norse geta "to obtain, reach; to be able to; to beget; to learn; to be pleased with;" Albanian gjen "to find."

career (n.)

1530s, "a running (usually at full speed), a course" (especially of the sun, etc., across the sky), from French carriere "road, racecourse" (16c.), from Old Provençal or Italian carriera, from Vulgar Latin *(via) cararia "carriage (road), track for wheeled vehicles," from Latin carrus "chariot" (see car). The sense of "general course of action or movement" is from 1590s, hence "course of one's public or professional life" (1803).

career (v.)

1590s, "to charge at a tournament," from career (n.). The meaning "move rapidly, run at full speed" (1640s) is from the image of a horse "passing a career" on the jousting field, etc. Related: Careered; careering.


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    #28433735 - 08/14/23 12:29 PM (5 months, 11 days ago)

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    #28434040 - 08/14/23 04:16 PM (5 months, 11 days ago)

The new moon upon us, an auspicious month ending in the Hindu lunar calendar, an extra called Adhik Maas which is to realign the solar and lunar calendars every few years.

moon (n.)

"heavenly body which revolves about the earth monthly," Middle English mone, from Old English mona, from Proto-Germanic *menon- (source also of Old Saxon and Old High German mano, Old Frisian mona, Old Norse mani, Danish maane, Dutch maan, German Mond, Gothic mena "moon"), from PIE *me(n)ses- "moon, month" (source also of Sanskrit masah "moon, month;" Avestan ma, Persian mah, Armenian mis "month;" Greek mene "moon," men "month;" Latin mensis "month;" Old Church Slavonic meseci, Lithuanian mėnesis "moon, month;" Old Irish mi, Welsh mis, Breton miz "month"), from root *me- (2) "to measure" in reference to the moon's phases as an ancient and universal measure of time.

A masculine noun in Old English. In Greek, Italic, Celtic, and Armenian the cognate words now mean only "month." Greek selēnē (Lesbian selanna) is from selas "light, brightness (of heavenly bodies)." Old Norse also had tungl "moon," ("replacing mani in prose" - Buck), evidently an older Germanic word for "heavenly body," cognate with Gothic tuggl, Old English tungol "heavenly body, constellation," of unknown origin or connection. Hence Old Norse tunglfylling "lunation," tunglœrr "lunatic" (adj.).

Extended 1665 to satellites of other planets. Typical of a place impossible to reach or a thing impossible to obtain, by 1590s. Meaning "a month, the period of the revolution of the moon about the earth" is from late 14c.

To shoot the moon "leave without paying rent" is British slang from c. 1823 (see shoot (v.)); the card-playing sense perhaps was influenced by gambler's shoot the works (1922) "go for broke" in shooting dice. The moon race and the U.S. space program of the 1960s inspired a number of coinages, including, from those skeptical of the benefits to be gained, moondoggle (based on boondoggle). The man in the moon "fancied semblance of a man seen in the disk of the full moon" is mentioned since early 14c.; he carries a bundle of thorn-twigs and is accompanied by a dog. Some Japanese, however, see a rice-cake-making rabbit in the moon. The old moon in the new moon's arms (1727) is the appearance of the moon in the first quarter, in which the whole orb is faintly visible by earthshine.

moon (v.)

c. 1600, "to expose to moonlight;" later "idle about, wander or gaze moodily" (1836), "move listlessly" (1848), probably on the notion also found in moonstruck. The meaning "to flash the buttocks" is recorded by 1968, U.S. student slang, from moon (n.) "buttocks" (1756), "probably from the idea of pale circularity" [Ayto]. See moon (n.). Related: Mooned; mooning.
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    #28434641 - 08/15/23 07:07 AM (5 months, 10 days ago)

Shikantaza (只管打坐) is a Japanese translation of a Chinese term for zazen introduced by Rujing, a monk of the Caodong school of Zen Buddhism to refer to a practice called "Silent Illumination" by previous Caodong masters. In Japan, it is associated with the Soto school.

The term shikantaza is attributed to Dōgen's teacher Tiantong Rujing (1162-1228), and it literally means, "nothing but (shikan) precisely (da) sitting (za)." In other words, Dōgen means, "doing only zazen whole-heartedly" or "single-minded sitting."

Shikantaza is the Sino-Japanese reading of the Chinese words zhǐguǎn 只管 "by all means; merely, simply; only concerned with" and dǎzuò 打坐 "[Buddhism/Daoism] sit in meditation". The Digital Dictionary of Buddhism translates shikan or zhǐguǎn 只管 as "to focus exclusively on", taza or dǎzuò 打坐 as "to squat, sit down cross-legged", which corresponds with Sanskrit utkuṭuka-stha, and translates shikan taza from zhǐguǎn dǎzuò 只管打坐 (or qíguǎn dǎzuò 祇管打坐 with qí "earth god; local god") as "meditation of just sitting", explained as the "Zen form of meditation chiefly associated with the Sōtō school, which places emphasis on emptying the mind, in contrast to the kōan method".

James Ishmael Ford says some authors hypothetically trace the root of shikantaza "just sitting" to vipassana meditation, but "this is far from certain." Japanese has many homophones pronounced shikan, and this etymological mix-up about shikan 只管 "only; just" stems from a more commonly used word that translates the Sanskrit "śamatha and vipaśyanā," names for the two basic forms of Buddhist meditation: Japanese shikan 止観 "concentration and observation" (as practiced by the Tendai sect), from Chinese zhǐguān 止觀 "[Buddhism] keep mental calm while observing the universe" (cf. the Mohe Zhiguan), which compounds shi or zhǐ 止 "stop; stabilize; śamatha" and kan or guān 觀 "observe; contemplate; vipaśyanā". An instance of the confusion of 止観 for 只管 is Steve Hagen's claim that "shi [Hagen is referring to Dōgen's '只'] means tranquility [= '止'], kan [Hagen is referring to Dōgen's '管'] means awareness [= '観'], ta means hitting exactly the right spot (not one atom off), and za means to sit."


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    #28443991 - 08/23/23 02:51 PM (5 months, 2 days ago)

Kōan:
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The encounter dialogues or “ancient cases” began being called gōngàn (or, as they are better known in English, koans). The word means “public case” or “precedent” and in China referred to the decision of a judge in the criminal courts. Indeed, koan literature imitated many elements of a legal case. Within the dialogue, the enlightened Master sits in judgment of a student’s understanding. The student’s “crime” is often to ask a question. The question might be straight (“What is the essence of the Buddha’s teaching?”) or a little cocky (“What goes beyond the Buddha’s teaching?”). The master might then pronounce a verdict (“You are a thief and a fraudster”), mete out corporal punishment (“I give thirty blows of the staff”), or exercise mercy (“I spare you thirty blows”). Similarly, a Zen commentator reviews the original teacher’s ruling like a court of appeal reviews the decision of a lower court. But unlike a court, where the legal system was meant to uncover crime and punish the guilty, the Zen koan was designed to uncover the nonverbal dharma.

Koans are in a different category than sūtras and other kinds of writing. They do not give the student information or preserve knowledge. Rather, they invite us to stand where the ancients stood and experience what they experienced when they uttered the words in the encounter dialogues. The point isn’t to ruminate intellectually on the meaning of the case or solve it like a riddle. The teacher’s words are an expression of an enlightened mind. Since that mind transcends rational thought, rational thought is no help in understanding the dialogue. The reader must smash his or her normal process of cognition against the koan. Only then will the wordless dharma break out of the words in the case.



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Koan literally means “public record.” Ko means public; an means record. Just as the reports, or case records, in law courts are used as precedents in order to exercise and interpret the law, the koan is utilized to express the universality, or absoluteness, of Zen. The koan is not private or mystic in any sense. It is through the koan that the essence of Zen, the essence of life, is communicated. This is somewhat like love, which is experienced privately but, at the same time, has universality—anyone can experience it. Though universal, love is communicated directly from one person to another, just as Zen is transmitted from mind to mind. In order to communicate love, words are often insufficient. Since love is life, it is immediate and direct, and the method of communication is very dynamic. Love may even be communicated by hitting, scolding, and other contrary expressions. Sometimes to express deep concern and love we say, “I don’t love you.” Love gives and love takes away. Love does not have just one, static form. So in Zen, the truth of reality, the essence of life is communicated dynamically. There are koans, “Khats” (deep sudden cries), and blows, all aimed at awakening the student. Negative methods are often more effective than the ordinary affirmative ways of teaching. There is no room for sentimentality because Zen deals with the essence of life and the truth of the universe. The koan is never solved by reason or by the intellect. Koans are solved only through living experience or by intuitive understanding. Today, many people intellectualize and conceptualize life and so become victims of concepts and intellect. Concepts create trouble in life because conceptualizations become confused with real things. Life is living, clear and simple. (Why can’t we become more simple and direct?) The koans point out the simplicity and directness of life and truth; therefore, reasoning and intellectual judgment are totally useless to solve koans.




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    #28444136 - 08/23/23 04:55 PM (5 months, 2 days ago)

mind (n.)
"that which feels, wills, and thinks; the intellect," late 12c., mynd, from Old English gemynd "memory, remembrance; state of being remembered; thought, purpose; conscious mind, intellect, intention," Proto-Germanic *ga-mundiz (source also of Gothic muns "thought," munan "to think;" Old Norse minni "mind;" German Minne (archaic) "love," originally "memory, loving memory"), from suffixed form of PIE root *men- (1) "to think," with derivatives referring to qualities of mind or states of thought.

spiritual (adj.)
c. 1300, "of or concerning the spirit, immaterial" (especially in religious aspects), also "of or concerning the church," from Old French spirituel, esperituel (12c.) or directly from a Medieval Latin ecclesiastical use of Latin spiritualis "pertaining to spirit; of or pertaining to breath, breathing, wind, or air," from spiritus "of breathing; of the spirit" (see spirit (n.)).

being (n.)
c. 1300, "existence," in its most comprehensive sense, "condition, state, circumstances; presence, fact of existing," early 14c., existence," from be + -ing. The sense of "that which physically exists, a person or thing" (as in human being) is from late 14c.


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    #28448070 - 08/27/23 06:59 AM (4 months, 29 days ago)

Teleology (from τέλος, telos, 'end,' 'aim,' or 'goal,' and λόγος, logos, 'explanation' or 'reason')[1]


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    #28454452 - 09/01/23 02:59 AM (4 months, 24 days ago)

The Greek word νοούμενoν, nooúmenon (plural νοούμενα, nooúmena) is the neuter middle-passive present participle of νοεῖν, noeîn, 'to think, to mean', which in turn originates from the word νοῦς, noûs, an Attic contracted form of νόος, nóos, 'perception, understanding, mind'.[a][4][5] A rough equivalent in English would be "something that is thought", or "the object of an act of thought".


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    #28455207 - 09/01/23 05:47 PM (4 months, 24 days ago)

connect (v.)
mid-15c., "to join, bind, or fasten together," from Latin conectere "join together," from assimilated form of com "together" (see con-) + nectere "to bind, tie" (from PIE root *ned- "to bind, tie").

Displaced 16c. by connex (1540s), from French connexer, from Latin *connexare, a supposed frequentative of conectere (past participle stem connex-). Connect was re-established from 1670s.

A similar change took place in French, where connexer was superseded by connecter. Meaning "to establish a relationship" (with) is from 1881. Slang meaning "get in touch with" is attested by 1926, from telephone connections. Meaning "awaken meaningful emotions, establish rapport" is from 1942. Of a hit or blow, "to reach the target," from c. 1920. Related: connected; connecting; connectedness.




cosmos (n.)
c. 1200, "the universe, the world" (but not popular until 1848, when it was taken as the English equivalent to Humboldt's Kosmos in translations from German), from Latinized form of Greek kosmos "order, good order, orderly arrangement," a word with several main senses rooted in those notions: The verb kosmein meant generally "to dispose, prepare," but especially "to order and arrange (troops for battle), to set (an army) in array;" also "to establish (a government or regime);" "to deck, adorn, equip, dress" (especially of women). Thus kosmos had an important secondary sense of "ornaments of a woman's dress, decoration" (compare kosmokomes "dressing the hair," and cosmetic) as well as "the universe, the world."


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    #28455635 - 09/02/23 05:10 AM (4 months, 23 days ago)

silence

From Middle English silence, from Old French silence, from Latin silentium (“silence”), from silēns (“quiet, silent”, present participle of silēre) + -ium.

"You have the right to silence," said the police officer.

silentium (genitive silentiī or silentī);

    silence, stillness, quiet, noiselessness

        Fac silentium!

            Be quiet!

        Silentio facto.

            With silence being obtained.

        De Partho silentium est.

            Nothing is said about the Parthian.

    obscurity
    inaction, inactivity, cessation, standstill



indoctrinate

in- + doctrine + -ate

To teach with a biased, one-sided or uncritical ideology; to brainwash.

in-
From Middle English in-, from Old English in- (“in, into”, prefix), from Proto-Germanic *in, from Proto-Indo-European *h₁én.

doctrine
From Middle English, from Old French, from Latin doctrina (“teaching, instruction, learning, knowledge”), from doctor (“a teacher”), from docere (“to teach”); see doctor.

-ate
From the Latin perfect passive participle suffixes of first conjugation verbs -ātus, -āta, and -ātum. In Middle English, it was written -at. Doublet of -ee.



conditioning

con + dition + ing

The process of modifying a person or animal's behaviour.

con
"swindling," 1889 (in con man), American English, from confidence man (1849), from the many scams in which the victim is induced to hand over money as a token of confidence. Confidence with a sense of "assurance based on insufficient grounds" dates from 1590s. Con artist is attested by 1910.

dition from the Latin dicio
From dīcere (“to say”) + -iō.
Noun

diciō f (genitive diciōnis);

    military or political authority, power, control, rule

        Synonyms: potestās, imperium, arbitrium, auctōritās, ductus

    sway, control

ing
From Middle English -ing, from Old English -ing, -ung (“-ing”, suffix forming nouns from verbs), from Proto-West Germanic *-ingu, *-ungu, from Proto-Germanic *-ingō, *-ungō. Cognate with Saterland Frisian -enge (“-ing”), West Frisian -ing (“-ing”), Dutch -ing (“-ing”), Low German -ing, -ink (“-ing”), German -ung (“-ing”), Swedish -ing (“-ing”), Icelandic -ing (“-ing”).
Suffix

-ing

    Used to form nouns or noun-like words (or elements of noun phrases) from verbs, denoting the act of doing something, an action, or the embodiment of an action.


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    #28455645 - 09/02/23 05:23 AM (4 months, 23 days ago)

Bigot
From French bigot (“a sanctimonious person; a religious hypocrite”), from Middle French bigot, from Old French bigot, of disputed origin. It is most often believed to have derived from the identical Old French derogatory term bigot applied to the overly religious Normans, said to be known for frequently swearing Middle English bi God (“by God”) (compare Old English bī god, Middle High German bī got, Middle Dutch bi gode), which is also thought to be the origin of the surname Bigott, Bygott. (Compare the French use of "goddamns" to refer to the English in Joan of Arc's time, and les sommobiches (see son of a bitch) during World War I). From meaning "someone overly religious" it came to mean "someone overly devoted to their own religious opinion", and then to its current sense.

The French Centre National de Ressources Textuelles et Lexicales supports the Germanic origin theory above. Liberman however opines that this has "too strong a taste of a folk etymological guess invented in retrospect" and prefers Grammont et al.'s theory that it derives from Albigot (“inhabitant of Albi”), named after the commune in southern France where Catharism (also known as Albigensianism) is thought to have originated. Online Etymology Dictionary, however, does not list Grammont and Liberman's theory among their possible origins.

bigot

    One who is narrow-mindedly devoted to their own ideas and groups, and intolerant of (people of) differing ideas, races, genders, religions, politics, etc.


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    #28456816 - 09/03/23 08:50 AM (4 months, 22 days ago)

That bigot bit is rather interesting nice one! Indoctrinate as well :strokebeard:


vision (n.)
c. 1300, "something seen in the imagination or in the supernatural," from Anglo-French visioun, Old French vision "presence, sight; view, look, appearance; dream, supernatural sight" (12c.), from Latin visionem (nominative visio) "act of seeing, sight, thing seen," noun of action from past participle stem of videre "to see," from PIE root *weid- "to see." The meaning "sense of sight" is first recorded late 15c. Meaning "statesman-like foresight, political sagacity" is attested from 1926.


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    #28457234 - 09/03/23 02:36 PM (4 months, 22 days ago)

I found the use of peccadillo interesting in an afterlife book, around how some may view thoughts and behaviors as much more significant 'karmically', than for which 'nature' would actually call.

peccadillo (n.)

"slight sin, petty crime or fault," 1590s (earlier in corrupt form peccadilian, 1520s), from Spanish pecadillo, diminutive of pecado "a sin," from Latin peccatum "a sin, fault, error," noun use of neuter past participle of peccare "to miss, mistake, make a mistake, do amiss; transgress, offend, be licentious, sin," a word of uncertain origin.

Watkins traces it to PIE *ped-ko-, suffixed form of *ped- "to walk, stumble, impair," from root *ped- "foot." But de Vaan is suspicious: "there is no reference to feet in the meaning of peccare. And to 'make a faux pas' ... would hardly be rendered by the word for 'foot', but rather by 'walking.' " He finds a derivation from the root *pet- "to fall" via *pet-ko- "a fall, error" to be "better semantically, but the addition of *-ko- to the bare root seems strange."


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    #28460172 - 09/06/23 02:59 AM (4 months, 19 days ago)

kindle (v.)
c. 1200, cundel, "to set fire to, to start on fire," probably from a Scandinavian source akin to Old Norse kynda "to kindle, to light a fire," Swedish quindla "kindle," all of uncertain origin, + frequentative suffix -le. Figurative use (of feelings, passions, etc.) is from c. 1300. Intransitive sense "to begin to burn, to catch fire" is from c. 1400. Related: Kindled; kindling.



knowledge (n.)
early 12c., cnawlece "acknowledgment of a superior, honor, worship;" for the first element see know (v.). The second element is obscure, perhaps from Scandinavian and cognate with the -lock "action, process," found in wedlock.

From late 14c. as "capacity for knowing, understanding; familiarity;" also "fact or condition of knowing, awareness of a fact;" also "news, notice, information; learning; organized body of facts or teachings." The sense of "sexual intercourse" is from c. 1400. Middle English also had a verb form, knoulechen "acknowledge" (c. 1200), later "find out about; recognize," and "to have sexual intercourse with" (c. 1300); compare acknowledge.



Never heard the term peccadillo,interesting!


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    #28460429 - 09/06/23 09:53 AM (4 months, 19 days ago)

paradox
From Middle French paradoxe, from Latin paradoxum, from Ancient Greek παράδοξος (parádoxos, “unexpected, strange”).

An apparently self-contradictory statement, which can only be true if it is false, and vice versa.
    "This sentence is false" is a paradox.

    A counterintuitive conclusion or outcome.
    It is an interesting paradox that drinking a lot of water can often make you feel thirsty.

    A claim that two apparently contradictory ideas are true.
    Not having a fashion is a fashion; that's a paradox.

    A thing involving contradictory yet interrelated elements that exist simultaneously and persist over time.
   
    A person or thing having contradictory properties. quotations
    He is a paradox; you would not expect him in that political party.

    An unanswerable question or difficult puzzle, particularly one which leads to a deeper truth.


introjection
1856, in medicine, from intro- "on the inside, within" + stem abstracted from projection, interjection. In philosophical (1892) and psychoanalytical (1911) uses, from German introjektion; in the former sense the coinage is credited to Swiss-German philosopher Richard Avenarius (1843-1896), in the latter Sándor Ferenczi (1873-1933).

    The process whereby the ideas of another are unconsciously incorporated into one's own psyche.


projection
Psychoanalytical sense, "attribute to another (unconsciously)" is from 1895 (implied in a use of projective), probably a figurative use from the meaning "throw the mind into the objective world" (1850). Meaning "convey to others by one's manner" is recorded by 1955.

    A belief or assumption that others have similar thoughts and experiences to one's own. This includes making accusations that would more fittingly apply to the accuser.


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    #28461368 - 09/07/23 08:14 AM (4 months, 18 days ago)

arcana
From Latin arcānus (“hidden, secret”), from arcēre (“to withhold”), arca (“a chest”). From Proto-Italic *arkā, from Proto-Indo-European *h₂erk-. Cognates include Latin arca (“chest, box”), arceō (“I defend”), arx (“fortress”), arcera (“kind of wagon”), Old Armenian արգել (argel, “obstacle”) and Ancient Greek ἀρκέω (arkéō).

    Specialized knowledge that is mysterious to the uninitiated.

    hidden, secret, private, mysterious

        Synonyms: obscūrus, secretus, occultus, clandestinus, perobscūrus
        Antonyms: conspicuus, manifestus

    intimate, personal, confidential
    trustworthy (to keep a secret)


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    #28462068 - 09/08/23 03:48 AM (4 months, 17 days ago)

Paradox is definitely a favorite of mine :awesomenod:

It seems to not make sense enough to make sense


sense (n.)
late 14c., "meaning, signification, interpretation" (especially of Holy Scripture); c. 1400, "the faculty of perception;" from Old French sens "one of the five senses; meaning; wit, understanding" (12c.) and directly from Latin sensus "perception, feeling, undertaking, meaning," from sentire "perceive, feel, know."


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    #28462420 - 09/08/23 01:50 PM (4 months, 17 days ago)

I wanted to post something from one of the books I've been reading. I remember it since was related to cosmos (and your name triggered it), and the esoteric meaning of the relation of sun and the moon, but I forgot the word and exactly where I read it :crazy2:

Interesting to see the Western meaning and etymology of the word sense compared to the Buddhist Skandas such as Vedanā.


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    #28469474 - 09/15/23 02:57 AM (4 months, 10 days ago)

Shroom day for you spinvis!

I've been learning French the past week or so , all the Spanish speakers at work are gone , now we have French speakers :lol:

It's somewhat easy as far as grammar goes since I do know some spanish rules and they are very similsr being romance languages but wow pronunciation is throwing me way off

I also am seeing the massive influence on English from the Norman's during the invasion of Britain circa 1066


parle in french is "speak" parler "to speak"

parley (n.)
"conference, conversation, speech," especially with an enemy, mid-15c., parlai, from Old French parlée, from fem. past participle of Old French parler "to speak" (11c.), from Vulgar Latin *paraulare, from Late Latin parabolare "to speak (in parables)," from parabola "speech, discourse," from Latin parabola "comparison" (see parable).

also from mid-15c.
parley (v.)

late 14c., parlen, "to speak, talk, confer," probably a borrowing of Old French parler "to speak" (see parley (n.)). Related: Parleyed; parleying. Meaning "to discuss terms," especially "to confer with an enemy," as on exchange of prisoners, a cease-fire, etc., is by 1560s, from the noun.

also from late 14c.


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    #28469481 - 09/15/23 03:12 AM (4 months, 10 days ago)

"and the esoteric meaning of the relation of sun and the moon"

What is the context?
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    #28469895 - 09/15/23 11:08 AM (4 months, 10 days ago)

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Shroom day for you spinvis!

I've been learning French the past week or so , all the Spanish speakers at work are gone , now we have French speakers :lol:

It's somewhat easy as far as grammar goes since I do know some spanish rules and they are very similsr being romance languages but wow pronunciation is throwing me way off



Schroom day to you too connectedcosmos!

How's that going for you? You able to speak Spanish and French fluently now? French was one of the first subjects I dropped way back when during studies, because it was so overly complicated grammar wise.
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"and the esoteric meaning of the relation of sun and the moon"

What is the context?
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I suspect it's from either 'Helena Petrovna
Blavatsky - The Secret Doctrine' or one of the Tantric texts since that's in the recent list of the book reader. However both refer so much to the sun, cosmos, etc that I'm unsure which it was, I suspect the latter :mad:


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    #28469994 - 09/15/23 12:42 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

You got a little shroomie next to your reg date because it's today :lol: not sure if you noticed that but it's what I meant :awehigh: regardless a mush shroomy day to all!

And I cannot speak Spanish fluently, I think I learned in between 350-500 words I can certainly ask for directions and speak enough to carry small conversations, like asking if one has kids or random things like that ,how old are you , happy birthday , just an assortment of random words

Demasiados palabras nueva! Màs lento por favor!

Which raises the question at what point is one bilingual?

I also know quite a few work related terms as that's where I actually spoke it :lol: I studied/practiced Spanish on duolingo for 195 days, and also learnt IRL when at work when possible

I've only been doing French for 5 days now

The Grammar rules are insane though
They would say rabbit blue where we would say blue rabbit , they would say "all of the days" todo de las dias , which just translates to everyday etc :lol:


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    #28470031 - 09/15/23 01:11 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

I did not notice, didn't even know that was a thing. I realize there's more shrooms as well. And if I click on it I see you gave me some shrooms a while back, but can't even see for what, where or how.
:epicfacepalm:

Anyway, thanks for both! :thumbup:
Three years, how time flies. Time again for a psychedelic adventure soon seeing that. :mushroom2:

I've lived in South Africa, where some people can speak more than twelve languages, and that indeed raises the question at what point is one bilingual? To me it would be if one speaks more than one, twelve is just something else entirely :lol:

It's impressive already if somebody can speak more than two. So awesome accomplishment connectedcosmos!

Bilingual
From Latin bilinguis + -al; equivalent to bi- + lingual. Parasynthetic compound formed of bis (“twice, in two ways”) + lingua (“tongue”) + -is.

Having the ability to speak two languages fluently.


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    #28470087 - 09/15/23 01:53 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

The more shrooms are ratings, you can rate users on here , in general (blue shrooms) and for trades (green shrooms)

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I just ordered some bridgesii cacti so I'm going to be working with mescaline in the near future :awesomenod:

Well there is tri-lingual and probably a quad or something or nother but 12 o.O

One of the Spanish people I worked with from guatamala knew a maya language :awemazing: it sounded so kewl


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    #28470271 - 09/15/23 04:36 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

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spinvis said:
Quote:

syncro said:
"and the esoteric meaning of the relation of sun and the moon"

What is the context?
:wizard:



I suspect it's from either 'Helena Petrovna
Blavatsky - The Secret Doctrine' or one of the Tantric texts since that's in the recent list of the book reader. However both refer so much to the sun, cosmos, etc that I'm unsure which it was, I suspect the latter :mad:




I waded into about a third of the Secret Doctrine but fell off. Intriguing but seems to need more than curiosity and entertainment as motive. I'm not overly interested in Theosophy, but its connections to ancient Brahmanism and Tibetan, claiming from that most ancient work, what is it, Book of Dzyan.


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    #28470734 - 09/16/23 05:52 AM (4 months, 9 days ago)

A rewarding quest into philology & etymology is Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson or An Objectively Impartial Criticism of the Life of Man


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    #28470740 - 09/16/23 06:12 AM (4 months, 9 days ago)

Hey welcome to the shroomery! :sanpedro::mushroom2:

Book recommendations I take it? Will have to look them up

Edit - I see it's one book:lol:

welcome (n.)
Old English wilcuma "welcome!" exclamation of kindly greeting, from earlier wilcuma (n.) "welcome guest," literally "one whose coming suits another's will or wish," from willa "pleasure, desire, choice" (see will (n.)) + cuma "guest," related to cuman "to come," from PIE root *gwa- "to go, come." Similar formation in Old High German willicomo, Middle Dutch wellecome.



return (v.)
early 14c., returnen, "to come back, come or go back to a former position" (intransitive), from Old French retorner, retourner "turn back, turn round, return" (Modern French retourner), from re- "back" (see re-) + torner "to turn" (see turn (v.)). Also in part from Medieval Latin retornare, returnare.


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    #28470820 - 09/16/23 08:25 AM (4 months, 9 days ago)

I didn't remember what is the Fourth Way.

"Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson or An Objectively Impartial Criticism of the Life of Man ...  was intended to be the main study tool for Gurdjieff's Fourth Way teachings."

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In 1962 the Shankaracharya (of Jyotir Peeth) was asked if the practice in his Advaita tradition was compatible with Ouspensky’s teaching of the Fourth Way. He replied:

Yes, there couldn’t possibly be any difference. He says that in his System, they take from all the three sources. In the system or ‘Way of Action’ they purify the heart so as to perform any action and yet be detached from it. The ‘Emotional Way’ is the ‘Way of Devotion and Service’. With that an atmosphere within is created so as to serve the Absolute and  receive His Grace. The third, Intellectual Way, is to make Reason work and clarify all the questions met with on the Way, and then if everything is brought together, we hope we are on the ‘Way of Understanding’, the Fourth Way.





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The more shrooms are ratings, you can rate users on here , in general (blue shrooms) and for trades (green shrooms)

:awehigh:

I just ordered some bridgesii cacti so I'm going to be working with mescaline in the near future :awesomenod:

Well there is tri-lingual and probably a quad or something or nother but 12 o.O

One of the Spanish people I worked with from guatamala knew a maya language :awemazing: it sounded so kewl



That sounds excellent! I haven't tried that cacti yet, only the San Pedro, do they taste the same? I might try my hands soon on growing some Copelandia Hawaiian shrooms.
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I waded into about a third of the Secret Doctrine but fell off. Intriguing but seems to need more than curiosity and entertainment as motive. I'm not overly interested in Theosophy, but its connections to ancient Brahmanism and Tibetan, claiming from that most ancient work, what is it, Book of Dzyan.



Agreed. Yes, the Book of Dyzan.


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    #28471912 - 09/17/23 05:42 AM (4 months, 8 days ago)

Yes indeed , all of the trichocerus cacti have that bitter flavor, I do think that is the mescaline

Oooo and since we are on the topic !


peyote (n.)
"mescal cactus," 1849, in reference to the mescal made from it, from Mexican Spanish peyote, from Nahuatl (Aztecan) peyotl, said to mean "caterpillar;" the cactus so called from the downy button on top.

coyote (n.)
common prairie-wolf of western North America, 1759, American English, from Mexican Spanish coyote, from Nahuatl (Aztecan) coyotl. Noted for its howling at night.


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    #28476259 - 09/20/23 11:21 AM (4 months, 5 days ago)

belief (n.)
late 12c., bileave, "confidence reposed in a person or thing; faith in a religion," replacing Old English geleafa "belief, faith," from West Germanic *ga-laubon "to hold dear, esteem, trust" (source also of Old Saxon gilobo, Middle Dutch gelove, Old High German giloubo, German Glaube), from *galaub- "dear, esteemed," from intensive prefix *ga- + PIE root *leubh- "to care, desire, love." The prefix in English was altered on analogy of the verb believe. The distinction of the final consonant from that of believe developed 15c.

    The be-, which is not a natural prefix of nouns, was prefixed on the analogy of the vb. (where it is naturally an intensive) .... [OED]

The meaning "conviction of the truth of a proposition or alleged fact without knowledge" is by 1530s; it is also "sometimes used to include the absolute conviction or certainty which accompanies knowledge" [Century Dictionary]. From c. 1200 as "a creed, essential doctrines of a religion or church, things held to be true as a matter of religious doctrine;" the general sense of "that which is believed" is by 1714. Related: Beliefs.

Belief meant "trust in God," while faith meant "loyalty to a person based on promise or duty" (a sense preserved in keep one's faith, in good (or bad) faith, and in common usage of faithful, faithless, which contain no notion of divinity). But faith, as cognate of Latin fides, took on the religious sense beginning in 14c. translations, and belief had by 16c. become limited to "mental acceptance of something as true," from the religious use in the sense of "things held to be true as a matter of religious doctrine."
also from late 12c.


*leubh-
Proto-Indo-European root meaning "to care, desire, love."

It forms all or part of: belief; believe; furlough; leave (n.) "permission, liberty granted to do something;" leman; libido; lief; livelong; love; lovely; quodlibet.

It is the hypothetical source of/evidence for its existence is provided by: Sanskrit lubhyati "desires," lobhaya- "to make crazy;" Persian ahiftan "to be tangled, be hit down, be in love;" Latin lubet, later libet "pleases," libido, lubido "desire, longing; sensual passion, lust;" Old Church Slavonic l'ubu "dear, beloved," ljubiti, Russian ljubit' "to love;" Lithuanian liaupsė "song of praise;" Old English lufu "feeling of love; romantic sexual attraction," German Liebe "love," Gothic liufs "dear, beloved."


faith (n.)
mid-13c., faith, feith, fei, fai "faithfulness to a trust or promise; loyalty to a person; honesty, truthfulness," from Anglo-French and Old French feid, foi "faith, belief, trust, confidence; pledge" (11c.), from Latin fides "trust, faith, confidence, reliance, credence, belief," from root of fidere "to trust,"from PIE root *bheidh- "to trust, confide, persuade." For sense evolution, compare belief. It has been accommodated to other English abstract nouns in -th (truth, health, etc.).

From early 14c. as "assent of the mind to the truth of a statement for which there is incomplete evidence," especially "belief in religious matters" (matched with hope and charity). Since mid-14c. in reference to the Christian church or religion; from late 14c. in reference to any religious persuasion.

    And faith is neither the submission of the reason, nor is it the acceptance, simply and absolutely upon testimony, of what reason cannot reach. Faith is: the being able to cleave to a power of goodness appealing to our higher and real self, not to our lower and apparent self. [Matthew Arnold, "Literature & Dogma," 1873]

From late 14c. as "confidence in a person or thing with reference to truthfulness or reliability," also "fidelity of one spouse to another." Also in Middle English "a sworn oath," hence its frequent use in Middle English oaths and asseverations (par ma fay, mid-13c.; bi my fay, c. 1300).


*bheidh-
Proto-Indo-European root meaning "to trust, confide, persuade."

It forms all or part of: abide; abode; affiance; affidavit; auto-da-fe; bide; bona fide; confederate; confidant; confide; confidence; confident; defiance; defy; diffidence; diffident; faith; fealty; federal; federate; federation; fiancee; fideism; fidelity; fiducial; fiduciary; infidel; infidelity; nullifidian; perfidy; solifidian.

It is the hypothetical source of/evidence for its existence is provided by: Greek pistis "faith, confidence, honesty;" Latin fides "trust, faith, confidence, reliance, credence, belief;" Albanian be "oath," bindem "to be convinced, believe;" Old Church Slavonic beda "distress, necessity," bediti "to force, persuade;" Old English biddan "to ask, beg, pray," German bitten "to ask."


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    #28477380 - 09/21/23 06:28 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

esprit (n.)
1590s, "liveliness, wit, vivacity," from French esprit "spirit, mind," from Old French espirit "spirit, soul" (12c.), from Latin spiritus "spirit" (see spirit (n.)). For initial e-, see e-.

Esprit de corps, recorded from 1780 in English, preserves the usual French sense. French also has the excellent phrase esprit de l'escalier, literally "spirit of the staircase," defined in OED as, "a retort or remark that occurs to a person after the opportunity to make it has passed." It also has esprit fort, a "strong-minded" person, one independent of current prejudices, especially a freethinker in religion.


e-
the later Romans evidently found words beginning in sc-, sp-, st- difficult or unpleasant to pronounce; in Late Latin forms begin to emerge in i- (such as ispatium, ispiritu), and from 5c. this shifted to e-. The development was carried into the Romanic languages, especially Old French, and the French words were modified further after 15c. by natural loss of -s- (the suppression being marked by an acute accent on the e-), while in other cases the word was formally corrected back to the Latin spelling (for example spécial). Hence French état for Old French estat for Latin status, etc. It also affected Romanic borrowings from Germanic (such as espy, eschew).

A different e- is a reduced form of Latin ex- before consonants (see ex-), and the e- in enough is an unfelt survival of an Old English alternative form of ge-.


spirit (n.)
mid-13c., "life, the animating or vital principle in man and animals," from Anglo-French spirit, Old French espirit "spirit, soul" (12c., Modern French esprit) and directly from Latin spiritus "a breathing (of respiration, also of the wind), breath;" also "breath of a god," hence "inspiration; breath of life," hence life itself.

The Latin word also could mean "disposition, character; high spirit, vigor, courage; pride, arrogance." It is a derivative of spirare "to breathe," and formerly was said to be perhaps from a PIE *(s)peis- "to blow" (source also of Old Church Slavonic pisto "to play on the flute"). But de Vaan says the Latin verb is "Possibly an onomatopoeic formation imitating the sound of breathing. There are no direct cognates." Compare conspire, expire, inspire.

In English it is attested from late 14c. as "divine substance, divine mind, God;" also "Christ" or His divine nature; also "the Holy Ghost; divine power." Also by late 14c. as "the soul as the seat of morality in man," and "extension of divine power to man; inspiration, a charismatic state; charismatic power," especially in reference to prophecy.

The meaning "supernatural immaterial creature; angel, demon; an apparition, invisible corporeal being of an airy nature" is attested from mid-14c. The word is attested by late 14c. as "ghost, disembodied soul of a person" (compare ghost (n.)). Spirit-rapping, colloquial for spiritualism in the supernatural sense, is from 1852. Spirit-world "world of disembodied spirits" is by 1829.

It is attested from late 14c. as "essential nature, essential quality." The non-theological sense of "essential principle of something" (as in Spirit of St. Louis) is attested from 1680s and was common after 1800. The Spirit of '76 in reference to the qualities that sparked and sustained the American Revolution of 1776 is attested by 1797 in William Cobbett's "Porcupine's Gazette and Daily Advertiser."

It also is attested from mid-14c. in English as "character, disposition; way of thinking and feeling, state of mind; source of a human desire;" in Middle English freedom of spirit meant "freedom of choice." It is attested from 1580s in the metaphoric sense of "animation, vitality," and by c. 1600 as "frame of mind with which something is done," also "mettle, vigor of mind, courage."

From late 14c. in alchemy as "volatile substance; distillate" (and from c. 1500 as "substance capable of uniting the fixed and the volatile elements of the philosopher's stone"). Hence spirits "volatile substance;" the sense of which narrowed to "strong alcoholic liquor" by 1670s. This also is the sense in spirit level (1768), so called for the liquid in the clear tube.

According to Barnhart and OED, the earliest use of the word in English mainly is from passages in the Vulgate, where the Latin word translates Greek pneuma and Hebrew ruah. A distinction between soul and spirit (as "seat of emotions") became current in Christian terminology (such as Greek psykhē and pneuma, Latin anima and spiritus) but "is without significance for earlier periods" [Buck]. Latin spiritus, usually in classical Latin "breath," replaced animus in the sense "spirit" in the imperial period and appears in Christian writings as the usual equivalent of Greek pneuma.


spree (n.)
"a lively frolic, rowdy drinking bout," 1804, slang or colloquial, earliest in Scottish dialect works, a word of uncertain origin. Perhaps [Barnhart] an alteration of French esprit "lively wit" (see esprit). According to Klein, Irish spre seems to be a loan-word from Old Norse sprakr. Watkins proposes a possible origin as an alteration of Scots spreath "cattle raid," from Gaelic sprédh, spré, "cattle; wealth," from Middle Irish preit, preid, "booty," ultimately from Latin praeda "plunder, booty" (see prey (n.)).

    The splore is a frolic, a merry meeting. In the slang language of the inhabitants of St Giles's, in London, it is called a spree or a go. [Note in "Select Scottish Songs, Ancient and Modern," vol. II, London, 1810]

In Foote's comedy "The Maid of Bath" (1794) the word appears as a Scottish dialect pronunciation of spry: " 'When I intermarried with Sir Launcelot Coldstream, I was en siek a spree lass as yoursel; and the baronet bordering upon his grand climacteric;' " etc.


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    #28477797 - 09/21/23 03:48 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

sincere (adj.)
1530s, "pure, unmixed, unadulterated;" also "free from pretense or falsehood," from French sincere (16c.), from Latin sincerus, of things, "whole, clean, pure, uninjured, unmixed," figuratively "sound, genuine, pure, true, candid, truthful" (unadulterated by deceit), a word of uncertain origin.

grow (v.)
Old English growan (of plants) "to flourish, increase, develop, get bigger" (class VII strong verb; past tense greow, past participle growen), from Proto-Germanic *gro- (source also of Old Norse groa "to grow" (of vegetation), Old Frisian groia, Dutch groeien, Old High German gruoen), from PIE root *ghre- "to grow, become green" (see grass). Applied in Middle English to human beings (c. 1300) and animals (early 15c.) and their parts, supplanting Old English weaxan (see wax (v.)) in the general sense of "to increase." Transitive sense "cause to grow" is from 1774. To grow on "gain in the estimation of" is from 1712.

between (prep., adv.)
Middle English bitwene, from Old English betweonum, Mercian betwinum, "in the space which separates, midway, in the midst, among; by turns," from bi- "by" (see by) + tweonum dative plural of *tweon "two each" (compare Gothic tweih-nai "two each;" from PIE root *dwo- "two").


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    #28479294 - 09/22/23 10:04 PM (4 months, 2 days ago)

Don't have anything to contribute now. But I love etymology!

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    #28479384 - 09/23/23 01:14 AM (4 months, 2 days ago)

welcome (n.)
Old English wilcuma "welcome!" exclamation of kindly greeting, from earlier wilcuma (n.) "welcome guest," literally "one whose coming suits another's will or wish," from willa "pleasure, desire, choice" (see will (n.)) + cuma "guest," related to cuman "to come," from PIE root *gwa- "to go, come." Similar formation in Old High German willicomo, Middle Dutch wellecome.


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    #28479583 - 09/23/23 08:03 AM (4 months, 2 days ago)

Apologies I may or may not have submitted welcome before :lol:

:kingcrankey:


fruit (n.)
late 12c., "any vegetable product useful to humans or animals," from Old French fruit "fruit, fruit eaten as dessert; harvest; virtuous action" (12c.), from Latin fructus "an enjoyment, delight, satisfaction; proceeds, produce, fruit, crops," from frug-, stem of frui "to use, enjoy," from suffixed form of PIE root *bhrug- "to enjoy," with derivatives referring to agricultural products. The Latin word also is the source of Spanish fruto, Italian frutto, German Frucht, Swedish frukt-.


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    #28482582 - 09/25/23 03:58 PM (4 months, 4 hours ago)

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Apologies I may or may not have submitted welcome before :lol:




Hey, it's a wilcuma ddition regardless.

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I intended on doing "Jack O' Lantern" since it's getting to be that time again.
Etymology online said:

"Jack-o'-lantern (n.)

also jack-o-lantern, jack-a-lantern, jackolantern, 1660s, "night-watchman;" 1670s as a local name for a will-o-the-wisp (Latin ignis fatuus), mainly attested in East Anglia but also in southwestern England. Literally "Jack of (with) the lantern;" see Jack + lantern. The extension to carved pumpkin lanterns is attested by 1834 in American English."


So then I was like "Aw yeah, I forgot the term Will o the Wisp, it's sick!"
Looked at the etymology of that:

"1660s, earlier Will with the wisp (c. 1600), from the masc. proper name Will + wisp "bundle of hay or straw used as a torch." Compare Jack-o'-lantern."

Both of them are just about a guy carrying a torch of some description.
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    #28483874 - 09/26/23 03:49 PM (3 months, 30 days ago)

It is a getting ta be that time of year :awehigh:

mushroom (n.)
a word applied at first to almost any of the larger fungi but later to the agaricoid fungi and especially the edible varieties, mid-15c., muscheron, musseroun (attested 1327 as a surname, John Mussheron), from Anglo-French musherun, Old French meisseron (11c., Modern French mousseron), perhaps from Late Latin mussirionem (nominative mussirio), though this might as well be borrowed from French.

Halloween
The word Halloween or Hallowe'en ("Saints' evening"[37]) is of Christian origin;[38][39] a term equivalent to "All Hallows Eve" is attested in Old English.[40] The word hallowe[']en comes from the Scottish form of All Hallows' Eve (the evening before All Hallows' Day):[41] even is the Scots term for "eve" or "evening",[42] and is contracted to e'en or een;[43] (All) Hallow(s) E(v)en became Hallowe'en.


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    #28492756 - 10/05/23 03:55 AM (3 months, 21 days ago)

creation (n.)
late 14c., creacioun, "action of creating or causing to exist," also "a created thing, that which is created," from Old French creacion "creation, a coming into being" (14c., Modern French création), from Latin creationem (nominative creatio) "a creating, a producing," in classical use "an electing, appointment, choice," noun of action from past-participle stem of creare "to make, bring forth, produce, beget," from PIE root *ker- (2) "to grow."

destruction (n.)
c. 1300, destruccioun "ruin;" early 14c., "act of destroying, devastation; state of being destroyed," from Old French destruction (12c.) and directly from Latin destructionem (nominative destructio) "a pulling down, destruction," noun of action from past-participle stem of destruere "tear down, demolish," literally "un-build," from de "un-, down" (see de-) + struere "to pile, build" (from PIE *streu-, extended form of root *stere- "to spread"). Meaning "cause of destruction" is from late 14c.


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    #28494089 - 10/06/23 03:55 AM (3 months, 20 days ago)

substance (n.)
c. 1300, substaunce, "divine part or essence" common to the persons of the Trinity;" mid-14c. in philosophy and theology, "that which exists by itself; essential nature; type or kind of thing; real or essential part;" from Old French sustance, substance "goods, possessions; nature, composition" (12c.), from Latin substantia "being, essence, material." This is from substans, present participle of substare "stand firm, stand or be under, be present," from sub "up to, under" (see sub-) + stare "to stand" (from PIE root *sta- "to stand, make or be firm").

candy (n.)
late 13c., "crystallized sugar," from Old French çucre candi "sugar candy," ultimately from Arabic qandi, from Persian qand "cane sugar," probably from Sanskrit khanda "piece (of sugar)," perhaps from Dravidian (compare Tamil kantu "candy," kattu "to harden, condense").

What's interesting is iirc the upanishads are divided into different "khandas"


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    #28504027 - 10/14/23 05:56 AM (3 months, 12 days ago)

Just as I suspected
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etymologyonline:

"goosebumps (n.)

also goose-bumps, "peculiar tingling of the skin produced by cold, fear, etc.; the sensation described as 'cold water down the back'" [Farmer], 1859, from goose (n.) + bump (n.). So called because the rough condition of the skin during the sensation resembles the skin of a plucked goose. Earlier in the same sense was goose-flesh (1803) and goose-skin (1761; as goose's skin 1744), and earlier still hen-flesh (early 15c.), translating Latin caro gallinacia.
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    #28504040 - 10/14/23 06:50 AM (3 months, 12 days ago)

:hi:

To break a fast!

breakfast (n.)
"first meal of the day," mid-15c., from the verbal phrase; see break (v.) + fast (n.). For vowel shift, see below. An Old English word for it was undernmete (see undern), also morgenmete "morning meal."

Spanish almuerzo "lunch," but formerly and still locally "breakfast," is from Latin admorsus, past participle of admordere "to bite into," from ad "to" + mordēre "to bite" (see mordant). German Frühstück is from Middle High German vruostücke, literally "early bit."

In common with almuerzo, words for "breakfast" tend over time to shift in meaning toward "lunch;" compare French déjeuner "breakfast," later "lunch" (cognate of Spanish desayuno "breakfast"), from Vulgar Latin *disieiunare "to breakfast," from Latin dis- "apart, in a different direction from" + ieiunare, jejunare "fast" (see jejune; also compare dine). Greek ariston in Homer and Herodotus was a meal at the break of day but in classical times taken in the afternoon.

The long/short vowel contrast in break/breakfast represents a common pattern where words from Old English have a long vowel in their modern form but a short vowel as the first element of a compound: Christ/Christmas, holy/holiday, moon/Monday, sheep/shepherd, wild/wilderness, etc.   

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    #28504065 - 10/14/23 07:51 AM (3 months, 12 days ago)

iamb (n.)

in prosody, a foot of two syllables, the first short or unaccented, the second long or accented, 1842, from French iambe (16c.) or directly from Latin iambus "an iambic foot; an iambic poem," from Greek iambos "metrical foot of one unaccented followed by one accented syllable" (see iambic).

Iambus itself was used in English in this sense from 1580s. In English as in Greek, it has been held to be the natural cadence of speech. The full Greek iamb consisted of two such units, one variable the other weighted like a modern English iamb. In Greek, the measure was said to have been first used by satiric writers.

    [The Iambus] is formed constantly by the proper accentuation of familiar, but dignified, conversational language, either in Greek or English : it is the dramatic metre in both, and in English, the Epic also. When the softened or passionate syllables of Italian replace the Latin resoluteness, it enters the measure of Dante, with a peculiar quietness and lightness of accent which distinguish it, there, wholly from the Greek and English Iambus. [Ruskin, "Elements of English Prosody, for use in St. George's Schools," 1880]

Compare trochee, spondee. The Greeks gave names to recurring patterns imparted to the words of their ritual songs and dances. The patterns were associated with certain types of songs and dances, and tended to take their names accordingly. The Roman poets picked up the vocabulary from the Greeks and applied it, somewhat ill-fitted, to their own (undanced) verses.

The English poets of the 16c., building a prosody for modern English, hesitated but then accepted the Latin foot names and applied them to stress patterns in English that, in only some ways, approximate those of Latin. Consequently the Greek meanings of the foot-names have almost no relevance to the modern use of them in prosody.



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    #28505112 - 10/15/23 05:06 AM (3 months, 11 days ago)

god (n.)
also God; Old English god "supreme being, deity; the Christian God; image of a god; godlike person," from Proto-Germanic *guthan (source also of Old Saxon, Old Frisian, Dutch god, Old High German got, German Gott, Old Norse guð, Gothic guþ), which is of uncertain origin; perhaps from PIE *ghut- "that which is invoked" (source also of Old Church Slavonic zovo "to call," Sanskrit huta- "invoked," an epithet of Indra), from root *gheu(e)- "to call, invoke." The notion could be "divine entity summoned to a sacrifice."

But some trace it to PIE *ghu-to- "poured," from root *gheu- "to pour, pour a libation" (source of Greek khein "to pour," also in the phrase khute gaia "poured earth," referring to a burial mound; see found (v.2)). "Given the Greek facts, the Germanic form may have referred in the first instance to the spirit immanent in a burial mound" [Watkins]. See also Zeus. In either case, not related to good.

    Popular etymology has long derived God from good; but a comparison of the forms ... shows this to be an error. Moreover, the notion of goodness is not conspicuous in the heathen conception of deity, and in good itself the ethical sense is comparatively late. [Century Dictionary, 1897]

Originally a neuter noun in Germanic, the gender shifted to masculine after the coming of Christianity. Old English god probably was closer in sense to Latin numen. A better word to translate deus might have been Proto-Germanic *ansuz, but this was used only of the highest deities in the Germanic religion, and not of foreign gods, and it was never used of the Christian God. It survives in English mainly in the personal names beginning in Os-.

    I want my lawyer, my tailor, my servants, even my wife to believe in God, because it means that I shall be cheated and robbed and cuckolded less often. ... If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him. [Voltaire]

God bless you after someone sneezes is credited to St. Gregory the Great, but the pagan Romans (Absit omen) and Greeks had similar customs. God's gift to _____ is by 1931. God of the gaps means "God considered solely as an explanation for anything not otherwise explained by science;" the exact phrase is from 1949, but the words and the idea have been around since 1894. God-forbids was rhyming slang for kids ("children"). God squad "evangelical organization" is 1969 U.S. student slang. God's acre "burial ground" imitates or partially translates German Gottesacker, where the second element means "field;" the phrase dates to 1610s in English but was noted as a Germanism as late as Longfellow.

    How poore, how narrow, how impious a measure of God, is this, that he must doe, as thou wouldest doe, if thou wert God. [John Donne, sermon preached in St. Paul's Jan. 30, 1624/5]


deus (n.)
"God, a god," mid-13c. in French and Latin salutations and exclamations in English works, see Zeus. Never nativized, but it continued to appear in adopted Latin expressions such as deus absconditus "hidden god," and deus ex machina "a power, event, person, or thing that arrives conveniently to solve a difficulty (especially in a play or novel). This (1690s) is from a Modern Latin translation of Greek apo mekhanes theos, literally "the god from the machina," the name of the device by which "gods" were suspended over the stage in Greek theater, from Greek (Attic) mēkhanē "device, tool, contrivance" (see machine (n.)). The fem. is dea ex machina.


deva (n.)
"god, divinity, good spirit" in Hindu religion, 1819, from Sanskrit deva "a god" (as opposed to asuras "wicked spirits"), etymologically "a shining one," from *div- "to shine," thus cognate with Greek dios "divine" and Zeus, and Latin deus "god" (Old Latin deivos), from PIE root *dyeu- "to shine," in derivatives "sky, heaven, god."

Fem. form devi is used for "goddess," also (with capital D-) for the mother goddess in Hinduism. Hence, also, devadasi "temple dancing girl," literally "female servant of a god," from dasi "slave girl." Also Devanagari, the formal alphabet of Sanskrit writings (1781), which is literally "divine city (script)," from nagara "city," but which is perhaps short for nagari lipi "town writing."


Zeus
supreme god of the ancient Greeks and master of the others, 1706, from Greek, from PIE *dewos- "god" (source also of Latin deus "god," Old Persian daiva- "demon, evil god," Old Church Slavonic deivai, Sanskrit deva-), from root *dyeu- "to shine," in derivatives "sky, heaven, god." The god-sense is originally "shining," but "whether as originally sun-god or as lightener" is not now clear.


*dyeu-
Proto-Indo-European root meaning "to shine," in derivatives "sky, heaven, god."

It forms all or part of: adieu; adios; adjourn; Asmodeus; circadian; deific; deify; deism; deity; deodand; deus ex machina; deva; dial; diary; Diana; Dianthus; diet (n.2) "assembly;" Dioscuri; Dis; dismal; diurnal; diva; Dives; divine; joss; journal; journalist; journey; Jove; jovial; Julia; Julius; July; Jupiter; meridian; Midi; per diem; psychedelic; quotidian; sojourn; Tuesday; Zeus.

It is the hypothetical source of/evidence for its existence is provided by: Sanskrit deva "god" (literally "shining one"); diva "by day;" Avestan dava- "spirit, demon;" Greek delos "clear;" Latin dies "day," deus "god;" Welsh diw, Breton deiz "day;" Armenian tiw "day;" Lithuanian dievas "god," diena "day;" Old Church Slavonic dini, Polish dzień, Russian den "day;" Old Norse tivar "gods;" Old English Tig, genitive Tiwes, name of a god.


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    #28506389 - 10/16/23 05:00 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

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The long/short vowel contrast in break/breakfast represents a common pattern where words from Old English have a long vowel in their modern form but a short vowel as the first element of a compound: Christ/Christmas, holy/holiday, moon/Monday, sheep/shepherd, wild/wilderness, etc.   

Interesting about that last bit with the vowels :strokebeard:



Yeah that is interesting, so was syncros post on Iamb!
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Read Siddhartha the other day for the first time, enjoyed it.

Wikipedia says:
"The word Siddhartha is made up of two words in Sanskrit language, siddha (achieved) + artha (what was searched for), which together means "he who has found meaning (of existence)" or "he who has attained his goals".
In fact, the Buddha's own name, before his renunciation, was Siddhartha Gautama, prince of Kapilavastu."


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    #28506813 - 10/16/23 12:19 PM (3 months, 10 days ago)

heaven (n.)
Old English heofon "home of God," earlier "the visible sky, firmament," probably from Proto-Germanic *hibin-, a dissimilation of *himin- (source also of Low German heben, Old Norse himinn, Gothic himins, Old Frisian himul, Dutch hemel, German Himmel "heaven, sky"), which is of uncertain and disputed origin.

Perhaps it means literally "a covering," from a PIE root *kem- "to cover" (which also has been proposed as the source of chemise). Watkins derives it elaborately from PIE *ak- "sharp" via *akman- "stone, sharp stone," then "stony vault of heaven."

The English word is attested from late 14c. as "a heavenly place; a state of bliss." The plural use in sense of "sky" probably is from the Ptolemaic theory of space as composed of many spheres, but it also formerly was used in the same sense in the singular in Biblical language, as a translation of Hebrew plural shamayim. Heaven-sent (adj.) is attested from 1640s.


hell (n.)
also Hell, Old English hel, helle, "nether world, abode of the dead, infernal regions, place of torment for the wicked after death," from Proto-Germanic *haljō "the underworld" (source also of Old Frisian helle, Old Saxon hellia, Dutch hel, Old Norse hel, German Hölle, Gothic halja "hell"). Literally "concealed place" (compare Old Norse hellir "cave, cavern"), from PIE root *kel- (1) "to cover, conceal, save."

Old Norse Hel (from Proto-Germanic *halija "one who covers up or hides something")was the name of Loki's daughter who ruled over the evil dead in Niflheim, the lowest of all worlds (nifl "mist") It might have reinforced the English word "as a transfer of a pagan concept to Christian theology and its vocabulary" [Barnhart].

In Middle English, also of the Limbus Patrum, place where the Patriarchs, Prophets, etc. awaited the Atonement. Used in the KJV for Old Testament Hebrew Sheol and New Testament Greek Hades, Gehenna. Used figuratively for "state of misery, any bad experience" at least since late 14c. As an expression of disgust, etc., first recorded 1670s.

To have hell break loose is from c. 1600. Expression hell in a handbasket is attested by 1867, in a context implying use from a few years before, and the notion of going to Heaven in a handbasket is from 1853, implying "easy passage" to the destination. Hell or high water (1874) apparently is a variation of between the devil and the deep blue sea. To wish someone would go to hell is in Shakespeare ("Merchant of Venice"). Snowball's chance in hell "no chance" is from 1931; till hell freezes over "never" is from 1832.

To do something  for the hell of it "just for fun" is from 1921. To ride hell for leather is from 1889, originally with reference to riding on horseback. Hell on wheels is from 1843 as the name of a steamboat; its general popularity dates from 1869 in reference to the temporary workers' vice-ridden towns along the U.S. transcontinental railroad. Scottish had hell-wain (1580s) "a phantom wagon seen in the sky at night."


*kel-
Proto-Indo-European root meaning "to cover, conceal, save."

It forms all or part of: Anselm; apocalypse; Brussels; caliology; Calypso; calyx; ceiling; cell; cellar; cellular; cellulite; cellulitis; cilia; clandestine; cojones; coleoptera; color; conceal; eucalyptus; hall; hell; helm (n.2) "a helmet;" helmet; hold (n.2) "space in a ship below the lower deck;" hole; hollow; holster; housing (n.2) "ornamental covering;" hull (n.1) "seed covering;" kil-; kleptomania; occult; rathskeller; supercilious; Valhalla; William.

It is the hypothetical source of/evidence for its existence is provided by: Sanskrit cala "hut, house, hall;" Greek kalia "hut, nest," kalyptein "to cover," koleon, koleos "sheath," kelyphos "shell, husk;" Latin cella "small room, store room, hut," celare "to hide, conceal," clam "secret," clepere "to steal, listen secretly to;" Old Irish cuile "cellar," celim "hide," Middle Irish cul "defense, shelter;" Gothic hulistr "covering," Old English heolstor "lurking-hole, cave, covering," Gothic huljan "to cover over," hulundi "hole," hilms "helmet," halja "hell," Old English hol "cave," holu "husk, pod;" Old Prussian au-klipts "hidden;" Old Church Slavonic poklopu "cover, wrapping."


nirvana (n.)
also Nirvana, Nirwana, 1836, in Buddhism, "the condition of a Buddha," from Sanskrit nirvana-s "extinction, disappearance" (of the individual soul into the universal), literally "to blow out, a blowing out" ("not transitively, but as a fire ceases to draw" [Ananda Kentish Coomaraswamy, "Hinduism and Buddhism," 1943]; a literal Latinization would be de-spiration), from nis-, nir- "out" + va- "to blow" (from PIE root *we- "to blow"). Figurative sense of "perfect bliss" is from 1895.


*we-
wē-, Proto-Indo-European root meaning "to blow."

It forms all or part of: Nirvana; vent; ventilate; weather; wind (n.1) "air in motion;" window; wing.

It is the hypothetical source of/evidence for its existence is provided by: Sanskrit va-, Greek aemi-, Gothic waian, Old English wawan, Old High German wajan, German wehen, Old Church Slavonic vejati "to blow;" Sanskrit vatah, Avestan vata-, Hittite huwantis, Latin ventus, Old English wind, German Wind, Gothic winds, Old Church Slavonic vetru, Lithuanian vėjas "wind;" Lithuanian vėtra "tempest, storm;" Old Irish feth "air;" Welsh gwynt, Breton gwent "wind."


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    #28510011 - 10/18/23 09:54 PM (3 months, 7 days ago)

I kinda feel that the words communion, commune, community, communism might (or should?) have similar historical roots.

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    #28510041 - 10/18/23 10:29 PM (3 months, 7 days ago)

It looks like common is the shared root. They all lead back to it.

common (adj.)

c. 1300, "belonging to all, owned or used jointly, general, of a public nature or character," from Old French comun "common, general, free, open, public" (9c., Modern French commun), from Latin communis "in common, public, shared by all or many; general, not specific; familiar, not pretentious." This is from a reconstructed PIE compound *ko-moin-i- "held in common," compound adjective formed from *ko- "together" + *moi-n-, suffixed form of root *mei- (1) "to change, go, move," hence literally "shared by all."

The second element of the compound also is the source of Latin munia "duties, public duties, functions," those related to munia "office." Perhaps reinforced in Old French by the Germanic form of PIE *ko-moin-i- (compare German gemein, Old English gemne "common, public, general, universal;" see mean (adj.)), which came to French via Frankish.

Used disparagingly of women and criminals since c. 1300. Meaning "pertaining equally to or proceeding equally from two or more" is from c. 1400. Meaning "usual, not exceptional, of frequent occurrence" is from late 14c. Sense of "not distinguished, belonging to the general mass" is from c. 1400; of things, "ordinary, not excellent," late 14c.

Common pleas is 13c., from Anglo-French communs plets, hearing civil actions by one subject against another as opposed to pleas of the crown. Common prayer is that done in public in unity with other worshipers; contrasted with private prayer. Common stock is attested from 1888. Common speech (late 14c.) is the vernacular, as opposed to Latin. Common good (late 14c.) translates Latin bonum publicum "the common weal." The college common room (1660s) is one to which all members have common access.

communion (n.)

late 14c., communioun, "participation in something; that which is common to all; union in religious worship, doctrine, or discipline," from Old French comunion "community, communion" (12c.), from Latin communionem (nominative communio) "fellowship, mutual participation, a sharing," used in Late Latin ecclesiastical language for "participation in the sacrament," from communis "common, general" (see common (adj.)).

Used by Augustine, in belief that the word was derived from com- "with, together" + unus "oneness, union." In English, from mid-15c. as "the sacrament of the Eucharist," from c. 1500 as "act of partaking in the sacrament of the Eucharist." From 1610s as "intercourse between two or more."
also from late 14c.


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    #28510258 - 10/19/23 06:34 AM (3 months, 7 days ago)

Great work , :heart:  love to see that :bigyesnod:


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    #28512525 - 10/21/23 03:53 AM (3 months, 5 days ago)

alphabet (n.)
"letters of a language arranged in customary order," 1570s, from Late Latin alphabetum (Tertullian), from Greek alphabetos, from alpha + beta.

It also is attested from early 15c. in a sense of "learning or lore acquired through reading." Words for it in Old English included stæfræw, literally "row of letters," stæfrof "array of letters,"


From wiki

The English word alphabet came into Middle English from the Late Latin word alphabetum, which in turn originated in the Greek, ἀλφάβητος (alphábētos); it was made from the first two letters of the Greek alphabet, alpha (α) and beta (β).[13] The names for the Greek letters, in turn, came from the first two letters of the Phoenician alphabet: aleph, the word for ox, and bet, the word for house.[14]


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    #28512562 - 10/21/23 05:59 AM (3 months, 5 days ago)

Did you post that because of what Solar wrote, what are words? I was looking up Matrika last night, as the Sanskrit alphabet..  and words or sounds as winds or waves on the ocean of being... I was wondering if there was some psychic happening. :yesnod:


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    #28512681 - 10/21/23 08:29 AM (3 months, 5 days ago)

Rather weird! I hadn't seen that post when I decided alphabet, I was just saying random words in my head till I found one that seemed good enough to add

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    #28516361 - 10/24/23 09:33 AM (3 months, 2 days ago)

Lollapalooza

Sometimes alternatively spelled and pronounced as lollapalootza, lalapaloosa, or lallapaloosa (P. G. Wodehouse, The Heart of a Goof) — dates from a late 19th-century/early 20th-century American idiomatic phrase meaning "an extraordinary or unusual thing, person, or event; an exceptional example or instance". Its earliest known use was in 1896. In time, the term also came to refer to a large lollipop. Perry Farrell, searching for a name for his festival, liked the euphonious quality of the by-then-antiquated term upon hearing it in a Three Stooges short film. Paying homage to the term's double meaning, a character in the festival's original logo holds a lollipop.

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    #28516486 - 10/24/23 11:29 AM (3 months, 2 days ago)

to boot
From Middle English to bote (“something added to, addition”), from Old English tō bōte (“to boot, besides, moreover”).

Trying to think of some more wacky English words :awehigh:


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    #28517273 - 10/25/23 12:30 AM (3 months, 1 day ago)

wacky (adj.)
"crazy, eccentric," 1935, variant of whacky (n.) "fool," late 1800s British slang, probably ultimately from whack "a blow, stroke," from the notion of being whacked on the head one too many times.


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    #28517342 - 10/25/23 03:43 AM (3 months, 1 day ago)

be (v.)
Old English beon, beom, bion "be, exist, come to be, become, happen," from Proto-Germanic *biju- "I am, I will be." This "b-root" is from PIE root *bheue- "to be, exist, grow," and in addition to the words in English it yielded the German present first and second person singular (bin, bist, from Old High German bim "I am," bist "thou art"), the Latin perfective tenses of esse (fui "I was," etc.), Old Church Slavonic byti "be," Greek phu- "become," Old Irish bi'u "I am," Lithuanian būti "to be," Russian byt' "to be," etc.

The modern verb to be in its entirety represents the merger of two once-distinct verbs, the "b-root" represented by be and the am/was verb, which was itself a conglomerate. Roger Lass ("Old English") describes the verb as "a collection of semantically related paradigm fragments," while Weekley calls it "an accidental conglomeration from the different Old English dial[ect]s." It is the most irregular verb in Modern English and the most common.

Collective in all Germanic languages, it has eight different forms in Modern English: BE (infinitive, subjunctive, imperative); AM (present 1st person singular); ARE (present 2nd person singular and all plural); IS (present 3rd person singular); WAS (past 1st and 3rd persons singular); WERE (past 2nd person singular, all plural; subjunctive); BEING (progressive & present participle; gerund); BEEN (perfect participle).

The paradigm in Old English was: eom, beo (present 1st person singular); eart, bist (present 2nd person singular); is, bið (present 3rd person singular);  sind, sindon, beoð (present plural in all persons); wæs (past 1st and 3rd person singular); wære (past 2nd person singular); wæron (past plural in all persons); wære (singular subjunctive preterit); wæren (plural subjunctive preterit).

The "b-root" had no past tense in Old English, but often served as future tense of am/was. In 13c. it took the place of the infinitive, participle and imperative forms of am/was. Later its plural forms (we beth, ye ben, they be) became standard in Middle English and it made inroads into the singular (I be, thou beest, he beth), but forms of are claimed this turf in the 1500s and replaced be in the plural. For the origin and evolution of the am/was branches of this tangle, see am and was.

    That but this blow Might be the be all, and the end all. ["Macbeth" I.vii.5]


*bheue-
*bheuə-, also *bheu-, Proto-Indo-European root meaning "to be, exist, grow."

It forms all or part of: Bauhaus; be; beam; Boer; bondage; boodle; boom (n.1) "long pole;" boor; booth; bound (adj.2) "ready to go;" bower; bowery; build; bumpkin; busk; bustle (v.) "be active;" byre; bylaw; Eisteddfod; Euphues; fiat; forebear; future; husband; imp; Monophysite; neighbor; neophyte; phyletic; phylo-; phylum; phylogeny; physic; physico-; physics; physio-; physique; -phyte; phyto-; symphysis.

It is the hypothetical source of/evidence for its existence is provided by: Sanskrit bhavah "becoming," bhavati "becomes, happens," bhumih "earth, world;" Greek phyein "to bring forth, make grow," phytos, phyton "a plant," physis "growth, nature," phylon "tribe, class, race," phyle "tribe, clan;" Old English beon "be, exist, come to be, become, happen;" Old Church Slavonic byti "be," Greek phu- "become," Old Irish bi'u "I am," Lithuanian būti "to be," Russian byt' "to be."


am (v.)
first-person singular present indicative of be (q.v.); Old English eom "to be, to remain," (Mercian eam, Northumbrian am), from Proto-Germanic *izm(i)-, from PIE *esmi- (source also of Old Norse emi, Gothic im, Hittite esmi, Old Church Slavonic jesmi, Lithuanian esmi), first-person singular form of the root *es- "to be."

In Old English it formed only present tenses, other forms being expressed in the "W-base" (see were, was). This cooperative verb is sometimes referred to by linguists as *es-*wes-. Until the distinction broke down 13c., *es-*wes- tended to express "existence," with beon meaning something closer to "come to be."

Old English am had two plural forms: 1. sind/sindon, sie and 2. earon/aron. The s- form (also used in the subjunctive) fell from English in the early 13c. (though its cousin continues in German sind, the third-person plural of "to be") and was replaced by forms of be, but aron (see are) continued, and as am and be merged it encroached on some uses that previously had belonged to be. By the early 1500s it had established its place in standard English.


*es-
Proto-Indo-European root meaning "to be."

It forms all or part of: absence; absent; am; Bodhisattva; entity; essence; essential; essive; eu-; eucalyptus; Eucharist; Euclidean; Eudora; Eugene; eugenics; eulogy; Eunice; euphemism; euphoria; euthanasia; homoiousian; improve; interest; is; onto-; Parousia; present (adj.) "existing at the time;" present (n.2) "what is offered or given as a gift;" proud; quintessence; represent; satyagraha; sin; sooth; soothe; suttee; swastika; yes.

It is the hypothetical source of/evidence for its existence is provided by: Sanskrit asmi, Hittite eimi, Greek esti-, Latin est, Old Church Slavonic jesmi, Lithuanian esmi, Gothic imi, Old English eom, German ist.


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    #28518918 - 10/26/23 01:02 PM (3 months, 7 hours ago)

I had known of what a "minced oath" was but never actually heard that concept before :lol:  interesante :strokebeard:

criminy (interj.)
also crimine, crimini, 1680s; it looks like Italian crimine "crime," but perhaps it is a deformation of Gemini (which is recorded as as an oath from 1660s) or simply another euphemism for Christ as a swear-word.

Etymology -(from wiki)

A minced oath from "Christ's money", in reference to the silver that Judas was paid for betraying Jesus.

Homo sapiens (n.)
the genus of human beings, 1802, in William Turton's translation of Linnæus, coined in Modern Latin from Latin homo "man" (technically "male human," but in logical and scholastic writing "human being;" see homunculus) + sapiens, present participle of sapere "be wise" (see sapient).


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    #28526198 - 11/02/23 06:05 AM (2 months, 24 days ago)

I seen a video where a hermit crab was inspecting its new shell.
Got me thinking.

In-Spect, Spect-Ator/ Spect-Ate, Spect-Acle, Spect-Rum, A-Spect, Intro-Spect.

Without searching it online, can any of you enlighten me on the origin of 'Spect' as a pre/suffix?

I feel it has something to do with "view", for example 'Introspect' would have the definition somewhere around "To view within" which seems right (I don't know the dictionary definition offhand.)

What other words have a common denominator that makes the definition clear?
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    #28526628 - 11/02/23 01:41 PM (2 months, 24 days ago)

Great work Lithop !

inspect (v.)
1620s, from Latin inspectus, past participle of inspicere "look at, observe, view; look into, inspect, examine," from in- "into" (from PIE root *en "in") + specere "to look" (from PIE root *spek- "to observe"). Related: Inspected; inspecting.

aspect (n.)
late 14c., an astrological term, "relative position of the planets as they appear from earth" (i.e., how they "look at" one another); also "one of the ways of viewing something," from Latin aspectus "a seeing, looking at, sight, view; countenance; appearance," from past participle of aspicere "to look at, look upon, behold; observe, examine," figuratively "consider, ponder," from ad "to" (see ad-) + specere "to look" (from PIE root *spek- "to observe").

introspect (v.)
1680s, "to look into" (transitive), from Latin introspectus, past participle of introspicere "look at, look into; examine, observe attentively," from intro- "inward" (see intro-) + specere "to look at" (from PIE root *spek- "to observe"). Meaning "look within, search one's feelings or thoughts" is from 1875, a back-formation from introspection


I once heard of introspection as "a thought about a thought"



What still to this day baffles me so much more than anything is the origin of language itself , and defining it , for to define a word , you need words to define - how in the hell did that start ?! Language obviously came before writing which would play into definition so concepts were already put in place somewhat ...

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    #28526826 - 11/02/23 04:23 PM (2 months, 24 days ago)

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connectedcosmos said:
Great work Lithop !

inspect (v.)
1620s, from Latin inspectus, past participle of inspicere "look at, observe, view; look into, inspect, examine," from in- "into" (from PIE root *en "in") + specere "to look" (from PIE root *spek- "to observe"). Related: Inspected; inspecting.



Thanks man, case closed.
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I once heard of introspection as "a thought about a thought"



That makes sense- it's thoughts all the way down!
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What still to this day baffles me so much more than anything is the origin of language itself , and defining it , for to define a word , you need words to define - how in the hell did that start ?! Language obviously came before writing which would play into definition so concepts were already put in place somewhat ...

:awemazing:




Yes bro! That really gets the ol' grey matter going- surely there's a great documentary out there somewhere about theories on that...
Gary Larson of Far Side fame done so many bits about language in various forms.

Man, I had this older mate- never heard from him in years sadly- but he was a true genius. The guy had incredible insight down about so much of the world. Intellectually and emotionally switched on to the Nth degree- he was like a fucking alien :lol:
I was too immature to truly appreciate our friendship in many ways- I wish I could pick his brain and hear what he has to say about all sorts nowadays, this time I'd REALLY listen- what I was humble enough to take in back then was very influential.
Incredible skater too and anyway one day we are on the bus home to his house after skating in the city. He was at university for language going into linguistics, phonetics and stuff way way beyond me, deconstructing language into its base parts and tracing the evolution of those parts through history, the impact it had on societal development etc etc.
Genuinely AMAZING shit, I'm sitting there on the bus w/ him stoned as fuck desperately trying to keep up while he is tracing slang we used back to its Angelo Saxon root terms in the casual way some people would talk about a film they had just seen.

All that to say, I reckon you would have LOVED talking to that fella.
I miss him, I've tried before to track him down (not hard enough tbh), I REALLY hope he's doing great in life out there somewhere! In fact I'm gonna include him in my metta tonight.
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    #28527858 - 11/03/23 12:07 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

Turtles all the way down! :megacrankey::kingcrankey:

You got me wondering the origin of anti
Since quite a few words begin with it and it's usually a opposite type of instance


anticipate (v.)
1530s, "to cause to happen sooner," a back-formation from anticipation, or else from Latin anticipatus, past participle of anticipare "take (care of) ahead of time," literally "taking into possession beforehand," from anti, an old form of ante "before" (from PIE root *ant- "front, forehead," with derivatives meaning "in front of, before") + capere "to take" (from PIE root *kap- "to grasp").

anti-
word-forming element of Greek origin meaning "against, opposed to, opposite of, instead," shortened to ant- before vowels and -h-, from Old French anti- and directly from Latin anti-, from Greek anti (prep.) "over, against, opposite; instead, in the place of; as good as; at the price of; for the sake of; compared with; in opposition to; in return; counter-," from PIE *anti "against," also "in front of, before" (from root *ant- "front, forehead," with derivatives meaning "in front of, before"), which became anti- in Italian (hence antipasto) and French.

:mindblown: moment , now realizing the word in Spanish for "before" is "antes"

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    #28528088 - 11/03/23 04:06 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

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Turtles all the way down! :megacrankey::kingcrankey:



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You got me wondering the origin of anti
Since quite a few words begin with it and it's usually a opposite type of instance



Yeah, that's a good pick!


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anticipate (v.)
1530s, "to cause to happen sooner," a back-formation from anticipation, or else from Latin anticipatus, past participle of anticipare "take (care of) ahead of time," literally "taking into possession beforehand," from anti, an old form of ante "before" (from PIE root *ant- "front, forehead," with derivatives meaning "in front of, before") + capere "to take" (from PIE root *kap- "to grasp").

anti-
word-forming element of Greek origin meaning "against, opposed to, opposite of, instead," shortened to ant- before vowels and -h-, from Old French anti- and directly from Latin anti-, from Greek anti (prep.) "over, against, opposite; instead, in the place of; as good as; at the price of; for the sake of; compared with; in opposition to; in return; counter-," from PIE *anti "against," also "in front of, before" (from root *ant- "front, forehead," with derivatives meaning "in front of, before"), which became anti- in Italian (hence antipasto) and French.



Some damn tasty etymology that, bro.

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:mindblown: moment , now realizing the word in Spanish for "before" is "antes"



Tortuga dudar, maldito tortuga.
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You should try and reach out ! You never know!



Shroomery is the only 'social media' I use and I wouldn't really know where to start in finding him! I did bump into his sister unexpectedly about 8 years ago and got his number but lost it...
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Really cool pictures too thanks for sharing as always



:salute: Cheers mate.


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    #28529961 - 11/05/23 06:52 AM (2 months, 21 days ago)

Looking more into linguistics because of that image you shared - it seems extremely complicated from looking in , outside :lol: talk about 📦  boxing things in so much words to define all the words and there many conceptions :megacrankey::awesomenod: soo much to digest

semantics (n.)
"the study of meaning in language; the science of the relationship between linguistic symbols and their meanings," 1893, from French sémantique (1883); see semantic (also see -ics). In this sense it replaced semasiology (1847), from German Semasiologie (1829), from Greek sēmasia "signification, meaning."


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    #28542022 - 11/13/23 09:15 PM (2 months, 12 days ago)

diatribe (n.)

1640s (in Latin form in English from 1580s), "continued discourse, critical dissertation" (senses now archaic), from French diatribe (15c.) and directly from Latin diatriba "learned discussion," from Greek diatribe "employment, study," in Plato, "discourse," literally "a wearing away (of time), a waste of time," from dia "away" (see dia-) + tribein "to wear, rub," from PIE root *tere- (1) "to rub, turn."

The modern meaning "a strain of invective, a bitter and violent criticism" by 1804, apparently from French.

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    #28546405 - 11/17/23 11:34 AM (2 months, 9 days ago)

Cockaigne (n.)
"imaginary country of abundance and bliss, the abode of luxury and idleness, lubberland," c. 1300, from Old French Cocaigne (12c.), which is of obscure origin; speculation centers on words related to cook (v.) and cake (compare Middle Dutch kokenje, a child's honey-sweetened treat; also compare Big Rock Candy Mountain). The German equivalent is Schlaraffenland ("Land of Lazy Monkeys").


virtuous (adj.)
c. 1300, "characterized by vigor or strength; having qualities befitting a knight; valiant, hardy, courageous;" from Old French vertuos "righteous; potent; of good quality; mighty, valiant, brave" (12c.), from Late Latin virtuosus "good, virtuous," from Latin virtus "moral strength, high character, goodness; manliness; valor, bravery, courage (in war); excellence, worth," from vir "man" (from PIE root *wi-ro- "man").

From mid-14c. in English as "having beneficial or efficacious properties;" late 14c. (of persons) as "having excellent moral qualities; conforming to religious law." Related: Virtuously; virtuousness.


sublime (adj.)
1580s, of language, style, etc., "expressing lofty ideas in an elevated manner," from French sublime (15c.), or directly from Latin sublimis "uplifted, high, borne aloft, lofty, exalted, eminent, distinguished," possibly originally "sloping up to the lintel," from sub "up to" (see sub-) + limen "lintel, threshold, sill" (see limit (n.)).

Of ideas, subjects, "striking the mind with a sense of grandeur or power," 1630s. Of persons, "high in excellence, exalted by lofty or noble traits," 1640s; of things in nature or art, by 1700. The sublime (n.) "the sublime part of anything, that which is stately or imposing" is from 1670s. It also was a verb in alchemy in Middle English (late 14c.).

    Natural objects may be sublime without physical height, if vastness and great impressiveness are present. In the moral field the sublime is that which is so high above ordinary human achievements as to give the impression of astonishment blended with awe .... [Century Dictionary]


limbo (n.)
region supposed to exist on the border of Hell, reserved for pre-Christian saints (Limbus patrum) and unbaptized infants (Limbus infantum);" c. 1300, from Latin limbo, ablative singular of limbus "edge, border" (see limb (n.2)). In frequent use in Latin phrases such as in limbo (patrum), which is entirely Latin, but the in was taken as English and hence the Latin ablative became the English noun. Figurative sense of "condition of neglect or oblivion, place of confinement" is from 1640s.


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    #28547600 - 11/18/23 08:26 AM (2 months, 8 days ago)

conundrum

The origin of conundrum “anything that puzzles” is itself a conundrum! Though it resembles Latin, conundrum likely belongs to the same family of pseudo-Latin terms as hocus-pocus. The earliest clue to conundrum’s origins is a 1645 text that connects the term to Oxford University and appears to define it as “pun, wordplay.” However, conundrum predates this instance by several decades, appearing in 1596 as a derogatory term for another person and later, in the 1620s, with the sense of “whimsical notion.” One suggestion, that conundrum is connected to the Latin verb cōnārī “to try, attempt,” with an intended meaning of “thing to be tried,” does not reflect conundrum’s earliest attested senses. As stated above, conundrum was first recorded in English in the 1590s.

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    #28548077 - 11/18/23 03:17 PM (2 months, 8 days ago)

symbiosis (n.)
1876, as a biological term, "union for life of two different organisms based on mutually benefit," from Greek symbiosis "a living together," from symbioun "live together," from symbios "(one) living together (with another), partner, companion, husband or wife," from assimilated form of syn- "together" (see syn-) + bios "life" (from PIE root *gwei- "to live"). Given a wider (non-biological) sense by 1921. An earlier sense of "communal or social life" is found in 1620s. A back-formed verb symbiose is recorded from 1960.

also from 1876


*gwei-
also *gweie-, Proto-Indo-European root meaning "to live."

It forms all or part of: abiogenesis; aerobic; amphibian; anaerobic; azo-; azoic; azotemia; bio-; biography; biology; biome; bionics; biopsy; biota; biotic; cenobite; Cenozoic; convivial; couch-grass; epizoic; epizoon; epizootic; macrobiotic; Mesozoic; microbe; Protozoa; protozoic; quick; quicken; quicksand; quicksilver; quiver (v.) "to tremble;" revive; survive; symbiosis; viable; viand; viper; vita; vital; vitamin; victuals; viva; vivace; vivacious; vivarium; vivid; vivify; viviparous; vivisection; whiskey; wyvern; zodiac; Zoe; zoetrope; zoic; zoo-; zoolatry; zoology; zoon; zoophilia; zoophobia; zooplankton.

It is the hypothetical source of/evidence for its existence is provided by: Sanskrit jivah "alive, living;" Old Persian *jivaka- "alive," Middle Persian zhiwak "alive;" Greek bios "one's life, course or way of living, lifetime," zoe "animal life, organic life;" Old English cwic, cwicu "living, alive;" Latin vivus "living, alive," vita "life;" Old Church Slavonic zivo "to live;" Lithuanian gyvas "living, alive," gyvata "(eternal) life;" Old Irish bethu "life," bith "age;" Welsh byd "world."


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    #28550678 - 11/20/23 06:39 PM (2 months, 6 days ago)

squabble

1600s, probably of North Germanic origin and ultimately imitative. Related to Swedish dialectal skvabbel (“a dispute, quarrel, gossip”), Norwegian dialectal skvabba (“to prattle”), German dialectal schwabbeln (“to babble, prattle”), Swedish dialectal skvappa (“to chide, scold”, literally “make a splash”)

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    #28551040 - 11/21/23 03:59 AM (2 months, 5 days ago)

I really enjoy the germanic origin of our words too , ultimately English was created by the Saxons and the Angles that migrated from maybe alittle south of where current Denmark is , to the island of Britannia


Here's a short video on the origins of English

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thresh (v.)
Old English þrescan, þerscan, "to beat, sift grain by trampling or beating," from Proto-Germanic *threskan "to thresh," originally "to tread, to stamp noisily" (source also of Middle Dutch derschen, Dutch dorschen, Old High German dreskan, German dreschen, Old Norse þreskja, Swedish tröska, Gothic þriskan), from PIE root *tere- (1) "to rub, turn."

The basic notion is of men or oxen treading out wheat; later, with the advent of the flail, the word acquired its modern extended sense of "to knock, beat, strike." The original Germanic sense is suggested by the use of the word in Romanic languages that borrowed it, such as Italian trescare "to prance," Old French treschier "to dance," Spanish triscar "to stamp the feet." For metathesis of -r- and vowel, see wright.

skull (n.)
"cranium, the bony framework of the head," c. 1200, sculle, probably from Old Norse skalli "a bald head, skull," a general Scandinavian word (compare Swedish skulle, Norwegian skult), itself probably related to Old English scealu "husk" (see shell (n.)).


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    #28552566 - 11/22/23 08:42 AM (2 months, 4 days ago)

bukkake

From Japanese - said to be a noun derived from bukkakeru "to splash or sprinkle"


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    #28552979 - 11/22/23 03:46 PM (2 months, 4 days ago)

home (n.)
Old English ham "dwelling place, house, abode, fixed residence; estate; village; region, country," from Proto-Germanic *haimaz "home" (source also of Old Frisian hem "home, village," Old Norse heimr "residence, world," heima "home," Danish hjem, Middle Dutch heem, German heim "home," Gothic haims "village"), from PIE *(t)koimo-, suffixed form of root *tkei- "to settle, dwell, be home." As an adjective from 1550s. The old Germanic sense of "village" is preserved in place names and in hamlet.


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    #28553566 - 11/23/23 06:22 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

inimical (adj.)
1640s, from Late Latin inimicalis "hostile," from Latin inimicus "unfriendly; an enemy" (see enemy).

    Inimical expresses both feeling and action, generally in private affairs. Hostile also expresses both feeling and action, but applies especially to public affairs: where it applies to private matters, it expresses either strong or conspicuous action or feeling, or both, or all. [Century Dictionary, 1889]


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    #28561925 - 11/30/23 09:37 AM (1 month, 27 days ago)

petrichor

The word is constructed from Ancient Greek πέτρα (pétra) 'rock', or πέτρος (pétros) 'stone', and íχώρ (ikhṓr), the ethereal fluid that is the blood of the gods in Greek mythology.


Thursday (n.)
fifth day of the week, Old English þurresdæg, a contraction (perhaps influenced by Old Norse þorsdagr) of þunresdæg, literally "Thor's day," from Þunre, genitive of Þunor "Thor" (see thunder (n.)); from Proto-Germanic *thonaras daga (source also of Old Frisian thunresdei, Middle Dutch donresdach, Dutch donderdag, Old High German Donares tag, German Donnerstag, Danish and Swedish Torsdag "Thursday"), a loan-translation of Latin Jovis dies "day of Jupiter."


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    #28573997 - 12/08/23 07:48 AM (1 month, 19 days ago)

hokum  (noun)

A message that seems to convey no meaning.

Synonyms: bunk, meaninglessness, nonsense

Hokum “out-and-out nonsense” is an Americanism, a word first recorded in American English, and as with many Americanisms, hokum has quite the peculiar backstory. Though its origins are disputed, many linguists consider hokum to be a combination of hocus-pocus and bunkum (“insincere talk”)  Hocus-pocus is a fake Latin term used by magicians and jugglers that may have been based on the real Latin phrase hoc est (enim) corpus (meum) “(for) this is (my) body,” but that is a fringe theory.

Bunkum is a namesake of Buncombe County, North Carolina (county seat Asheville), which Felix Walker represented in the House of Representatives from 1817 to 1823. During a debate over what eventually became the Missouri Compromise, Walker attempted to deliver a speech, speaking “to Buncombe” rather than to the House, that was so lengthy and irritating that his colleagues shouted at him until he stopped talking. The name Buncombe (respelled phonetically as bunkum) soon developed the meaning of “insincere speechmaking by a politician intended merely to please local constituents.” Hokum was first recorded in English in the late 1910's


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    #28576012 - 12/09/23 03:46 PM (1 month, 18 days ago)

higgledy-piggledy
"confusedly, hurriedly," 1590s, a "vocal gesture" [OED] probably formed from pig and the animal's suggestions of mess and disorder. Reduplications in the h-/p- pattern are common (as in hanky-panky, hocus-pocus, hinch(y)-pinch(y), an obsolete children's game, attested from c. 1600).

Edward Moor, "Suffolk Words and Phrases" (London, 1823), quotes a list of "conceited rhyming words or reduplications" from the 1768 edition of John Ray's "Collection of English Words Not Generally Used," all said to "signify any confusion or mixture;" the list has higgledy-piggledy, hurly-burly, hodge-podge, mingle-mangle, arsy-versy, kim-kam, hub-bub, crawly-mauly, and hab-nab. "To which he might have added," Moor writes, crincum-crankum, crinkle-crankle, flim-flam, fiddle-faddle, gibble-gabble, harum-scarum, helter-skelter, hiccup-suickup, hocus-pocus, hotch-potch, hugger-mugger, humdrum, hum-strum, hurry-scurry, jibber-jabber, prittle-prattle, shilly-shally, tittle-tattle, and topsy-turvy. Many of these date to the 16th century. Miss Burney (1778) has skimper-scamper "in hurry and confusion."


hocus-pocus (interj.)
magical formula used in conjuring, 1630s, earlier Hocas Pocas, common name of a magician or juggler (1620s); a sham-Latin invocation used by jugglers, perhaps based on a perversion of the sacramental blessing from the Mass, Hoc est corpus meum "This is my body." The first to make this speculation on its origin apparently was English prelate John Tillotson (1630-1694).

    I will speak of one man ... that went about in King James his time ... who called himself, the Kings Majesties most excellent Hocus Pocus, and so was called, because that at the playing of every Trick, he used to say, Hocus pocus, tontus tabantus, vade celeriter jubeo, a dark composure of words, to blinde the eyes of the beholders, to make his Trick pass the more currantly without discovery. [Thomas Ady, "A Candle in the Dark," 1655]

Compare hiccus doccius or hiccus doctius, "formula used by jugglers in performing their feats" (1670s), also a common name for a juggler, which OED says is "conjectured to be a corruption of" Latin hicce es doctus "here is the learned man," "if not merely a nonsense formula simulating Latin." Also compare holus-bolus (adv.) "all at a gulp, all at once," which Century Dictionary calls "A varied redupl. of whole, in sham-Latin form." As a noun meaning "juggler's tricks," hocus-pocus is recorded from 1640s.


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    #28579507 - 12/12/23 03:20 AM (1 month, 15 days ago)

Eros (n.)
god of love, late 14c., from Greek eros (plural erotes), "god or personification of love; (carnal) love," from eran, eramai, erasthai "to desire," which is of uncertain origin. Beekes suggests it is from Pre-Greek.

The Freudian sense of "urge to self-preservation and sexual pleasure" is from 1922. Ancient Greek distinguished four ways of love: erao "to be in love with, to desire passionately or sexually;" phileo "have affection for;" agapao "have regard for, be contented with;" and stergo, used especially of the love of parents and children or a ruler and his subjects.


agape (n.)
c. 1600, from Greek agapē "brotherly love, charity," in Ecclesiastical use "the love of God for man and man for God," a late and mostly Christian formation from the verb agapan "greet with affection, receive with friendship; to like, love," which is of unknown origin. It sometimes is explained as *aga-pa- "to protect greatly," with intensifying prefix aga-. "The Christian use may have been influenced by Hebr. 'ahaba 'love'" [Beekes].

Agape, in plural, was used by early Christians for their "love feast," a communal meal held in connection with the Lord's Supper. "The loss of their original character and the growth of abuses led to the prohibition of them in church buildings, and in the fourth century to their separation from the Lord's supper and their gradual discontinuance" [Century Dictionary]. In modern use, often in simpler sense of "Christian love" (1856, frequently opposed to eros as "carnal or sensual love").


love (n.)
Old English lufu "feeling of love; romantic sexual attraction; affection; friendliness; the love of God; Love as an abstraction or personification," from Proto-Germanic *lubo (source also of Old High German liubi "joy," German Liebe "love;" Old Norse, Old Frisian, Dutch lof; German Lob "praise;" Old Saxon liof, Old Frisian liaf, Dutch lief, Old High German liob, German lieb, Gothic liufs "dear, beloved"). The Germanic words are from PIE root *leubh- "to care, desire, love."

The weakened sense "liking, fondness" was in Old English. Meaning "a beloved person" is from early 13c. The sense "no score" (in tennis, etc.) is 1742, from the notion of playing for love (1670s), that is, for no stakes. Phrase for love or money "for anything" is attested from 1580s. The phrase no love lost (between two people) is ambiguous and was used 17c. in reference to two who love each other well (c. 1640) as well as two who have no liking for each other (1620s, the usual modern sense).

To fall in love is attested from early 15c.; to be in love with (someone) is from c. 1500. To make love is from 1570s in the sense "pay amorous attention to;" as a euphemism for "have sex," it is attested from c. 1950. Love affair "a particular experience of love" is from 1590s. Love life "one's collective amorous activities" is from 1919, originally a term in psychological jargon. Love beads is from 1968. Love bug, imaginary insect, is from 1883. Love-handles "the fat on one's sides" is by 1967.

    "Even now," she thought, "almost no one remembers Esteban and Pepita but myself. Camilla alone remembers her Uncle Pio and her son; this woman, her mother. But soon we shall die and all memory of those five will have left the earth, and we ourselves shall be loved for a while and forgotten. But the love will have been enough; all those impulses of love return the love that made them. Even memory is not necessary for love. There is a land of the living and a land of the dead and the bridge is love, the only survival, the only meaning." [Thornton Wilder, "Bridge of San Luis Rey," 1927]


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    #28584871 - 12/16/23 05:27 AM (1 month, 11 days ago)

finicky

Etymology: Finicky is related to the verb finick and the noun and adjective finicking and the adjective finical. The apparent oldest of the set is finical, dating from the late 1500s; finicky doesn’t hit the scene until the early 1800s. Where did all this come from? A common but uncertain supposition is that it’s from fine plus ical as in cynical and ironical.

Collocations: I think first of ads about cats being finicky eaters, and the Corpus of Contemporary American English puts finicky eater(s) high on the list, just below finicky about. About what? Food, weather, being touched, what have you. Apparently fish are also seen as finicky. So, of course, are children. Some people and things are notoriously finicky.

Overtones: It’s hard not to suspect the sense and usage of the word are influenced by its echoes of panicky and picky and fickle and, of course, icky, and maybe even fink. Also, somewhere back in the mind, fidgety. One can picture going picnicking with a kid named Finnegan (or maybe Nicky) who picks at food and calls it icky and insists he will be sick unless he has a flawless pickle sandwich. At last you declare, “Must you be so fricking finicky!”

Semantics: The dictionary definition is really just the start, isn’t it? I think I’d sum it up in a nutshell as ‘excessively fastidious’. But when you say someone is finicky, there’s an air of perhaps feline daintiness about it, aided by the slightness suggested by the high front vowels, and even if the finickiness is not to do with food it won’t be long before you’re thinking of finicky eaters. You can picture someone picking at something before finally flicking it aside. Finicky makes fussy sound messy.

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    #28586487 - 12/17/23 07:52 AM (1 month, 10 days ago)

peculiar (adj.)
mid-15c., "belonging exclusively to one person," also "special, particular," from Old French peculiaire and directly from Latin peculiaris "of one's own (property)," from peculium "private property," literally "property in cattle" (in ancient times the most important form of property), from pecu "cattle, flock," related to pecus "cattle" (see pecuniary).

bequeath (v.)
Old English becweðan "to say, speak to, exhort, blame," also "leave by will;" from be- + cweðan "to say," from Proto-Germanic *kwithan (see quoth). The simple verb cweðan became obsolete, but its old, strong past tense survived through Middle English as quoth.


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    #28589393 - 12/19/23 06:14 AM (1 month, 8 days ago)

adoration

Borrowed from Latin adōrātiōnem (“worship, adoration”), from adōrō (“beseech; adore, worship”), from ad (“to, towards”) + ōrō (“beg”).


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    #28589435 - 12/19/23 07:06 AM (1 month, 8 days ago)

That reminded me of this

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franks_Casket



time (n.)
Old English tima "limited space of time," from Proto-Germanic *timon- "time" (source also of Old Norse timi "time, proper time," Swedish timme "an hour"), from PIE *di-mon-, suffixed form of root *da- "to divide."


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54. The true nature of things is to be known personally , through the eyes of clear illumination and not through a sage : what the moon exactly is , is to be known with one's own eyes ; can another make him know it?


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    #28599484 - 12/27/23 07:23 AM (1 month, 11 hours ago)

Obsess

-late Middle English (in the sense ‘haunt, possess’, referring to an evil spirit): from Latin obsess- ‘besieged’, from the verb obsidere, from ob- ‘opposite’ + sedere ‘sit’. The current sense dates from the late 19th century.



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    #28617215 - 01/11/24 05:39 AM (16 days, 13 hours ago)

preposterous (adj.)

1540s, "contrary to nature, reason, or common sense," from Latin praeposterus "absurd, contrary to nature, inverted, perverted, in reverse order," literally "before-behind" (compare topsy-turvy, cart before the horse), from prae "before" (see pre-) + posterus "subsequent, coming after," from post "after" (see post-).

The sense gradually shaded into "foolish, ridiculous, stupid, absurd." The literal meaning "reversed in order or arrangement, having that last which ought to be first" (1550s) is now obsolete in English. In 17c. English also had a verb preposterate "to make preposterous, pervert, invert."


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    #28618272 - 01/12/24 03:14 AM (15 days, 15 hours ago)

galaxy (n.)
late 14c., from French galaxie or directly from Late Latin galaxias "the Milky Way" as a feature in the night sky (in classical Latin via lactea or circulus lacteus), from Greek galaxias (adj.), in galaxias kyklos, literally "milky circle," from gala (genitive galaktos) "milk" (from PIE root *g(a)lag- "milk").

The technical astronomical sense in reference to the discrete stellar aggregate including the sun and all visible stars emerged by 1848. Figurative sense of "brilliant assembly of persons" is from 1580s. Milky Way is a translation of Latin via lactea.

See yonder, lo, the Galaxyë Which men clepeth the Milky Wey, For hit is whyt. [Chaucer, "House of Fame"]
Originally ours was the only one known. Astronomers began to speculate by mid-19c. that some of the spiral nebulae they could see in telescopes were actually immense and immensely distant structures the size and shape of the Milky Way. But the matter was not settled in the affirmative until the 1920s.


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    #28618498 - 01/12/24 09:23 AM (15 days, 9 hours ago)

understand (v.)
Old English understandan "to comprehend, grasp the idea of, receive from a word or words or from a sign the idea it is intended to convey; to view in a certain way," probably literally "stand in the midst of," from under + standan "to stand" (see stand (v.)).

If this is the meaning, the under is not the usual word meaning "beneath," but from Old English under, from PIE *nter- "between, among" (source also of Sanskrit antar "among, between," Latin inter "between, among," Greek entera "intestines;" see inter-). Related: Understood; understanding.

I love this view of the word,"to stand in the midst of".


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    #28630836 - 01/22/24 09:35 AM (5 days, 9 hours ago)

"The Latin root of the word 'extravagant' means 'to wander outside or beyond'.
It is a good word for mycelium, which ceaselessly wanders outside and beyond its limits, none of which are pre-set, as they are in most animal bodies. Mycelium is a body without a body plan."


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    #28631127 - 01/22/24 02:33 PM (5 days, 4 hours ago)

hiatus (n.)
1560s, "a break or opening" in a material object, especially in anatomy, from Latin hiatus "opening, aperture, rupture, gap," from past-participle stem of hiare "to gape, stand open" (from PIE root *ghieh- "to yawn, gape, be wide open").


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    #28632796 - 01/24/24 03:31 AM (3 days, 15 hours ago)

vision (n.)

c. 1300, "something seen in the imagination or in the supernatural," from Anglo-French visioun, Old French vision "presence, sight; view, look, appearance; dream, supernatural sight" (12c.), from Latin visionem (nominative visio) "act of seeing, sight, thing seen," noun of action from past participle stem of videre "to see," from PIE root *weid- "to see." The meaning "sense of sight" is first recorded late 15c. Meaning "statesman-like foresight, political sagacity" is attested from 1926.


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    #28633631 - 01/24/24 06:06 PM (3 days, 1 hour ago)

I love how this goes from "Wondrous work of God" to "Miracle WhipTM"

also, it comes from smiling and laughing!

miracle (n.)

mid-12c., "a wondrous work of God," from Old French miracle (11c.) "miracle, story of a miracle, miracle play," from Latin miraculum "object of wonder" (in Church Latin, "marvelous event caused by God"), from mirari "to wonder at, marvel, be astonished," figuratively "to regard, esteem," from mirus "wonderful, astonishing, amazing," earlier *smeiros, from PIE *smei- "to smile, laugh" (source also of Sanskrit smerah "smiling," Greek meidan "to smile," Old Church Slavonic smejo "to laugh;" see smile (v.)). The Latin word is the source of Spanish milagro, Italian miracolo.

From mid-13c. as "something that excites wonder or astonishment, extraordinary or remarkable feat," without regard to divinity or supernatural power. It replaced Old English wundortacen, wundorweorc. The Greek words rendered as miracle in the English bibles were semeion "sign," teras "wonder," and dynamis "power," which in the Vulgate were translated respectively as signum, prodigium, and virtus.

Miracle-drug is by 1939 (in reference to sulfanilamide). Miracle-worker "a thaumaturge" is from 1560s (Middle English had mircleour, early 15c.). Miracle-play "medieval dramatic representation of the life of Christ or a saint or other sacred subjects" is by 1744 (miraclis pleynge is from c. 1400). The condiment Miracle Whip was introduced 1933 by Kraft Foods; apparently the name was first given to the patented machine that made it.

also from mid-12c.


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    #28633955 - 01/25/24 01:58 AM (2 days, 17 hours ago)

enthusiasm (n.)
c. 1600, from French enthousiasme (16c.) and directly from Late Latin enthusiasmus, from Greek enthousiasmos "divine inspiration, enthusiasm (produced by certain kinds of music, etc.)," from enthousiazein "be inspired or possessed by a god, be rapt, be in ecstasy," from entheos "divinely inspired, possessed by a god," from en "in" (see en- (2)) + theos "god" (from PIE root *dhes-, forming words for religious concepts). It acquired a derogatory sense of "excessive religious emotion through the conceit of special revelation from God" (1650s) under the Puritans; generalized meaning "fervor, zeal" (the main modern sense) is first recorded 1716.


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    #28635405 - 01/26/24 09:05 AM (1 day, 10 hours ago)

boycott

From the name of Captain Charles C. Boycott (1832–97), an Irish land agent so treated in 1880, in an attempt instigated by the Irish Land League to get rents reduced.


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    #28635463 - 01/26/24 10:06 AM (1 day, 9 hours ago)

Nice one! That reminds me of:

Toyi-toyi
Toyi-toyi is a Southern African dance used in political protests in South Africa.

Toyi-toyi could begin as the stomping of feet and spontaneous chanting during protests that could include political slogans or songs, either improvised or previously created.

Use during apartheid
Toyi-toyi was often used for intimidating the South African police and security forces during anti-apartheid demonstrations. The toyi-toyi was also used with chants such as the African National Congress's "Amandla" ("power") and "Awethu" ("ours") or the Pan African Congress's "One Settler, One Bullet".

After the 1976 Soweto massacre, the anti-apartheid movement became more militant. The toyi-toyi, a military march dance and song style became commonplace in massive street demonstrations. As one activist puts it, "The toyi-toyi was our weapon. We did not have the technology of warfare, the tear gas and tanks, but we had this weapon."

Current use in South Africa
After Apartheid ended, people have used toyi-toyi to express their grievances against current government policies. Use of the dance has become very popular during recent service delivery protests and among trade unions. The Anti-Privatisation Forum has come out with a CD that they see as a compilation of music specially for toyi-toying.

General
The UK band, UB40, incorporated the "Amandla, Awethu" chant into Sing Our Own Song from the 1986 album Rat In The Kitchen.

In October 2004 Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe banned toyi-toyi even indoors because of its use as a protest.

Etymology
toyi-toyi, noun
/ˈtɔɪtɔɪ/

Forms:
    Also toi-toi, itoyi-toyi.

Origin:
    IsiNdebele, Shona

Note:
    A similar-sounding invocation, Tayi (one of the traditional titles accorded to the supreme being) was used by the Xhosa during the 19th century: ‘They (sc. the Xhosa) advanced almost to the muzzles of the British guns...Some of them, shouting “Tayi! Tayi!” as they ran — the word they had been taught by Nxele to use as a charm against all manner of evil — actually reached the cannon.’ (B. Maclennan, A Proper Degree of Terror, 1986, p.193, writing of the frontier war of 1818–19).

Note:
    The etymology suggested in quotation 1988 is unsubstantiated, although many ANC cadres underwent military training in eastern European countries. See also quotation 1990 (Sunday Times), which is probably an example of folk etymology.

1. A quasi-military dance-step characterized by high-stepping movements, performed either on the spot or while moving slowly forwards, usually by participants in protest gatherings or marches, and accompanied by chanting, singing, and the shouting of slogans. Also attributive, and occasionally shortened form toyi.


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