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Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib
    #2833946 - 06/27/04 03:50 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Ok, I know this is going to sound frivilous to some of you but bear with me. The Daily Show showed a clip of Bush the other night mispronouncing Abu Ghraib. He called it "Abu Gref".

Jon Stewart said "When you mispronounce the name of the prison that is at the center of the prison abuse scandal, it does give the public the sense that you don?t give a fuck".

Seriously, WHAT THE FUCK. He thought it was called Abu GREF!? I think this speak volumes about what kind of leader George W. Bush is. How can he not fucking know the name of the prison at the center of one of the biggest scandals of his own Presidency. And it happened recently, to. Do they just wake him up for the press interviews?

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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Learyfan]
    #2833995 - 06/27/04 04:08 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Low IQ :wink:


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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Learyfan]
    #2834000 - 06/27/04 04:09 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

It was pretty funny and pretty sad, but nothing more or less. There are so many legitimate gripes that can be made against Bush, why make a huge deal out of pronunciation(if that can even be called an alternate pronunciation). For the record, I'm a huge Daily Show fan. Any chance you caught Jon on Larry King the other night?


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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Learyfan]
    #2834002 - 06/27/04 04:09 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

He isnt the most eloquent speaker, dosent mean hes dumb.

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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Learyfan]
    #2834322 - 06/27/04 06:30 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Has he ever said it correctly?

Was this the first time he was heard saying the name of that prison, and how long after he supposedly found out about is was this speech?

Did he call it Abu Gref more than once?

Maybe it's frivilous, and maybe it isn't, just depends on whether this is attributable to ignorance, and/or indifference... or something else.


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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Redo]
    #2834324 - 06/27/04 06:30 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

true, his actions prove it though


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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Learyfan]
    #2834405 - 06/27/04 07:07 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

what about when Wolfowitz was asked by a Senate committee if he knew the number of dead American soliders and he completely didnt know? Now, I think that is quite telling of how distant these war planners are.

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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2834423 - 06/27/04 07:14 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

It was a very recent interview. It was not a mispronunciation. Instead of "grey-b" he said "gref".

I mean, for Christ's sake. How........the FUCK doesn't he know the name of the fucking prison? I know he doesn't read the news, but you'd think that he would have heard the name once or twice per day for the last month or two or however long it's been since the pictures surfaced.






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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Learyfan]
    #2834443 - 06/27/04 07:20 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

that man is sooo liberated.

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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Vvellum]
    #2834460 - 06/27/04 07:30 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Vvellum]
    #2834487 - 06/27/04 07:42 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I'm sorry, LF, but I found that very funny.
My sense of humor's a bit odd, of late, tho :smile:


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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: GernBlanston]
    #2834665 - 06/27/04 08:45 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

What was funny, Bush and "Abu Gref"?







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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Learyfan]
    #2834876 - 06/27/04 10:12 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Sorry - bi0's "that man is sooo liberated." part...

Nothing about this is funny - but if we lose sight of irony, then we're really lost.


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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Learyfan]
    #2834879 - 06/27/04 10:15 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Jon Stewart said "When you mispronounce the name of the prison that is at the center of the prison abuse scandal, it does give the public the sense that you don't give a fuck".

haha. i love john stewart.

.... and i think in the back of my mind i want kerry to win.

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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: GernBlanston]
    #2834975 - 06/27/04 10:55 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Ohhh. No, I thought what Bio said was really funny. The shaking head is for this sad situation.





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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2835092 - 06/27/04 11:47 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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Did he call it Abu Gref more than once?


I don't think he did in the particular instance they are talking about, but in another address, he mispronounced it three times, each time a different mispronounciation. It was hilarious.


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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Learyfan]
    #2835495 - 06/28/04 03:03 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

It was just another gem of clarity coming out of his mouth.
They'rs been strong cases made, that bush didn't learn how to read untill recently. Like when asked what his favorite childhood book was he said
(caterpillar?something) anyway it turns out that the book he was refering to wasn't published untill he was in his 20-30s.


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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Learyfan]
    #2835934 - 06/28/04 09:18 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

The clip is on the daily show site if anyone hasn't seen it and wants to.

http://www.comedycentral.com/mp/play.php?reposid=/multimedia/tds/headlines/8157.html

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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Skikid16]
    #2836080 - 06/28/04 10:39 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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Did he call it Abu Gref more than once?


I don't think he did in the particular instance they are talking about, but in another address, he mispronounced it three times, each time a different mispronounciation. It was hilarious.




yeah, I was just going to mention this...

his last television address, he mangled it horribly.

it is rather telling.

p.s. Wolfowitz's testimony was incredibly aggrivating.
he just can't be bothered with details....ugh.


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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: afoaf]
    #2838070 - 06/28/04 11:24 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Maybe he has alzheimers.



Or maybe he's doing a Regan impression.


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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Learyfan]
    #2838078 - 06/28/04 11:26 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

He's an idiot. What else is new?


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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: silversoul7]
    #2838105 - 06/28/04 11:36 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I don?t know. This one just blew me away. I mean, it?s somewhat like Nixon not knowing the name of the hotel that his men were arrested in.







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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Learyfan]
    #2840633 - 06/29/04 04:32 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Meh.

Jimmy Carter regularly pronounced "nuclear" as "nuke-ya lur", and he served in nuclear submarines before getting into politics. I always got a chuckle out of hearing that turniphead mangle the word in his speeches.

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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Phred]
    #2840723 - 06/29/04 04:57 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, well Bush fucks that word up to.







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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Learyfan]
    #2840755 - 06/29/04 05:06 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Not only does Bush fuck up words, he even makes up new ones


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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Phred]
    #2841006 - 06/29/04 06:24 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Carter should run as Kerry's VP .


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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2841496 - 06/29/04 09:36 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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Carter should run as Kerry's VP .




Is that possible? Could Clinton be VP? Or is it possible, but no former President would ever lower himself to that level?







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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Learyfan]
    #2841647 - 06/29/04 10:20 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Clinton's already had two terms. Carter's still got one term as president coming.


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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2842069 - 06/30/04 12:03 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I know, but can a President be Vice President after their two terms as President? Might be a stupid question, but I don't know.




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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Learyfan]
    #2842291 - 06/30/04 01:26 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I'm not clear on term limits either. :shrug:


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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Learyfan]
    #2842541 - 06/30/04 03:28 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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I know, but can a President be Vice President after their two terms as President? Might be a stupid question, but I don't know.



From a Google search.....

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Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.


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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2843284 - 06/30/04 11:20 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

So I guess Clinton couldn't become Vice President because if Kerry kicks the bucket Clinton would have to be President again.





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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Learyfan]
    #2843744 - 06/30/04 01:41 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Yes - Clinton could be nominated (and subseqently elected) Vice President, and could even Constitutionally serve as President again if he were VP and something happened to Kerry.

Some guys at the law dept at the University of Minnesota did some research and came up with 8 different scenarios that could theoretically put Clinton in the Oval Office again - some of them were a bit far fetched, as you can imagine. But it could happen.

I'll try to find a link later - heading off to meet the guy who's going to get Arlen Specter out of office!

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    #2843791 - 06/30/04 01:55 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Very interesting. I'd like to hear what the 8 scenarios are.





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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Learyfan]
    #2845207 - 06/30/04 09:06 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Damn.. I can't find the study. I've not read it, only heard of it's existance secondhand.

I did find a link to a CNN article from 2000 explaining why the 12th amendment did not necessarily supercede the 22nd amendment, which would then allow Clinton to become VP (and President, should something befall the elected president) but would preclude him only from being elected president:

http://www.cnn.com/2000/LAW/08/columns/fl.dorf.goreclinton.08.01/

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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: GernBlanston]
    #2845327 - 06/30/04 09:35 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Wow this thread is so off track its scandalous.


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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: d33p]
    #2845371 - 06/30/04 09:55 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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Wow this thread is so off track its scandalous.




Explain how it's scandalous. I'd like to see a source on this. When I think of scandals I think of Clinton and Lewinsky and Reagan going to Bitburg.

What do you guys think the nation's all time biggest scandal is? I vote for Clinton and Lewinsky.






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Re: Bush doesn't know Abu Ghraib [Re: Phred]
    #2845844 - 07/01/04 01:02 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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Meh.

Jimmy Carter regularly pronounced "nuclear" as "nuke-ya lur", and he served in nuclear submarines before getting into politics. I always got a chuckle out of hearing that turniphead mangle the word in his speeches.


Yeah, the only difference is Carter's administration didn't push for an unjust (opinion) war in which a large scandal errupted involving "nuke-ya lur" weapons......


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* 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11
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