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Re: Gated Communities [Re: mushboy]
#28348796 - 06/05/23 08:13 PM (7 months, 19 days ago) |
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i think Trayvon Martin is a good example of why gated communities are dangerous.
BTW, remember when The New York Times referred to George Zimmerman as a "white Hispanic" in an attempt to make it look like a white supremacist murder?
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He literally is a white hispanic. What race do you think he is?
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Re: Gated Communities [Re: koods]
#28348930 - 06/05/23 10:08 PM (7 months, 18 days ago) |
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Race is a social construct.
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Re: Gated Communities [Re: Enlil]
#28348948 - 06/05/23 10:33 PM (7 months, 18 days ago) |
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He believes the construct, so I’m curious what race he thinks Zimmerman is. White, black or Asian?
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Re: Gated Communities [Re: koods]
#28349216 - 06/06/23 06:46 AM (7 months, 18 days ago) |
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Because it's a social construct, his belief system could literally have 1000s of different races. For all we know, hispanic could be a race in his society.
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A new trend I'm seeing with gated communities is the targeted extortion of service workers under the guise of safety. I've had more than 1 community hit me up for a security badge fee, ostensibly to background check me or whatever. Apparently only people in trucks or vans are dangerous. Anyone in a sedan or crossover SUV is safe and thus exempt from the fee.
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Re: Gated Communities [Re: ballsalsa] 1
#28349258 - 06/06/23 07:35 AM (7 months, 18 days ago) |
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Gotta pay for the golf course somehow.
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I'm sure the associations pitch it as a way to avoid raising HOA fees or some such at the meeting "Gotta repave G street this year and we need a new motor for the service entrance guard shack gate. Should we raise fees or just toll it from the landscapers?"
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Re: Gated Communities [Re: ballsalsa]
#28349277 - 06/06/23 07:53 AM (7 months, 18 days ago) |
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That should be passed on to the customer anyway
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Re: Gated Communities [Re: Enlil]
#28349283 - 06/06/23 07:56 AM (7 months, 18 days ago) |
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Pretty sure I'd just add it as a line item but mark it up 15%. Make it very obvious the resident is paying extra tax for getting standard services.
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Re: Gated Communities [Re: ballsalsa]
#28349859 - 06/06/23 04:46 PM (7 months, 18 days ago) |
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ballsalsa said: A new trend I'm seeing with gated communities is the targeted extortion of service workers under the guise of safety. I've had more than 1 community hit me up for a security badge fee, ostensibly to background check me or whatever. Apparently only people in trucks or vans are dangerous. Anyone in a sedan or crossover SUV is safe and thus exempt from the fee.
The looks I get in my 87 Crown Vic, would make a pearl clutcher blush, especially around schools and gated communities. If I had a pod car/SUV,as you stated...poof, I am a law abiding citizen.
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the laws around HOA fees are a mess. last week tonight did a really scary episode on HOAs which end up forclosing on houses based on arbitrary fees.
i dont know how common that is, but it seems like making an otherwise home-owner homeless because of too many or too few shrubs in their yard is completely fucked up and a plight to society.
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Re: Gated Communities [Re: rxb]
#28350613 - 06/07/23 08:48 AM (7 months, 17 days ago) |
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Re: Gated Communities [Re: rxb]
#28350614 - 06/07/23 08:51 AM (7 months, 17 days ago) |
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In Los Angeles County alone, there are several homes sold at auction each month for just that thing.
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christopera said: Pretty sure I'd just add it as a line item but mark it up 15%. Make it very obvious the resident is paying extra tax for getting standard services.
I think I've decided to create "gate access fee" of 1.5% of each transaction inside a community that charges me for the privilege of serving their residents.
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Re: Gated Communities [Re: ballsalsa]
#28365836 - 06/19/23 04:16 PM (7 months, 5 days ago) |
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To be fair, there is an associated cost with dealing the gated community's bullshit.
Ever since I got laid off in January I have been a shop manager that leans heavily towards high end mechanic. I charged a woman $135 an hour when I went to her home and worked on her car. She was not pleased. I had to explain to her that the garage barely functions when I am not there, meaning it made no money. Realistically I should have charged three or four times that. But the $490 paycheck was sweet.
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I think gates in gated communities mainly serve to keep door 2 door types and people who might not live there but are trying to use the communities benefits like a pool or parks. Some people, and I am going to generalize and say non-traditional american cultures, do not see private property in the same way and will use it for themselves if nothing is stopping them. I think the fact that most of europe allows trekking on private property is part of this mentality and it is forgivable. Then there are the shameless americans who know they are not entitled to the clubhouse that people pay fees to maintain but will sneak in with kids in tow if allowed.
The other point that hasn't been brought up is gated and fenced communities keep wildlife out. In a place like Florida which is king of gated communities the fences keep big gators, bears, even coyotes and panthers from snatching people's little dogs when let them out to pee.
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Lol no, a lady got eaten by a gator in a gated community a few months ago. Walked her little dog right up to the edge of the pond. Maybe she also thought that gates stop gators?
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The other point that hasn't been brought up is gated and fenced communities keep wildlife out. In a place like Florida which is king of gated communities the fences keep big gators, bears,
They don't keep wildlife out , especially not Florida wildlife .
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/06/21/watch-black-bear-gated-florida-neighborhood/7686317001/
https://www.news-press.com/story/news/local/south-fort-myers/2014/09/25/hogs-invade-gated-community-rip-lawns/16241631/
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