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Usefulness of symbolic expression
#28336603 - 05/27/23 07:31 AM (7 months, 29 days ago) |
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This is Amar Bharati. He elevated his right hand in 1973 and has kept it raised ever since. It's symbolic of his mission to foster global harmony. Is it a worthy expression of his mission? How has it affected global harmony? Are these even proper questions for examining his efforts? If not, how should his action/sacrifice be viewed?
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: Rahz]
#28336652 - 05/27/23 08:32 AM (7 months, 29 days ago) |
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His claim to fame.
Some people make music. Some write books. Some draw art. Some don’t bother being none for some nuisance to another.
The fella there disabled his arm for purpose of what can be said as manner to find peace among own perspective, in a sense. ‘Mission to Foster Global Harmony.’
Maybe everything is at perfect harmony as things are. Yes, things are bit chaotic and seem unjust at times. Other times things can seem so groovy and enlightening. Existence rolls on into the future wether good, the bad, the ugly.
Wish someone just gave that fella a good high5 years ago and brought about a bit of enlightenment to his predicament giving him use to his arm and hand all his life.
Could’ve used his hands to create and implement more actions towards his goal envisioned for life and at least made a bigger dent into the reality of having something be present to his fella humans than lack there of anything of material existence to goal sought.
How could he light his pipe?
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: WhoManBeing]
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: WhoManBeing]
#28336662 - 05/27/23 08:46 AM (7 months, 29 days ago) |
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I feel the same way. My reaction is to think it's dumb but it was worthwhile to him. He is somewhat well known world wide now because of it but I don't think it has or will have any meaningful effect on world harmony.
Sometimes I think asking such questions is akin to asking why rocks roll downhill, but still want to see rationality in such things when they're human actions.
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: Rahz]
#28336668 - 05/27/23 09:01 AM (7 months, 29 days ago) |
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Seems as the man’s quest in a claim to fame. The details to that be spoken about his doing much just blah, blah, blah, blah. Actions speaking louder than words have his physical action half of what could’ve been all those years.
Still, I’d give him a high5 for such accomplishment.
Not best to say, yet, see this as effective to pursuit as the monk who lit himself on fire in protest, that famous pictured monk doing so.
Ok, now, let’s look at own life and make look into that of what actions maybe of some manner as seen here. Hmmm….
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: Rahz]
#28336742 - 05/27/23 09:53 AM (7 months, 29 days ago) |
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Aside from advisability of the physical act, it could be an expression of changing one's mind about the world. Our world is what we can change, our mind.
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: syncro]
#28336795 - 05/27/23 10:48 AM (7 months, 29 days ago) |
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I think it is ok. It might be wiser than self immolation. With self immolation it is over fairly quick in terms of media. We need a 100 year long eternal flame of self immolation. But even that would become a gimmick.
It reminds me of war strategy where you can kill all the enemies or as another option you can maim and wound all the enemies so they consume resources and medical aid from their own infrastructure. You can inflict more harm on the enemy by maiming and wounding. So this person raised his arm to draw more attention to his effort and our blindness.
He is fighting absurdity with absurdity. Maybe he is a ripple in a pond or a butterfly effect or the first domino to fall.
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: Soul Flight]
#28336918 - 05/27/23 12:26 PM (7 months, 29 days ago) |
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one guy masturbated 18 times on his day off at camp, it's like that, it just sticks in memory. he was a dickhead sometimes
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: redgreenvines]
#28336987 - 05/27/23 01:21 PM (7 months, 29 days ago) |
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and the guy with arm in air in protest hadn't touched his own cock with that hand for all those years.
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: WhoManBeing]
#28336992 - 05/27/23 01:25 PM (7 months, 29 days ago) |
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: redgreenvines]
#28337015 - 05/27/23 01:37 PM (7 months, 29 days ago) |
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I cannot even remember how it is to kiss a woman on her lips. My bestfriend has nailed over 100 woman.
This God-thing is a fucking parody.
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: Pinkerton]
#28337606 - 05/27/23 10:32 PM (7 months, 28 days ago) |
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In terms of my understanding of memory, nothing in your sphere of activity provides access to the memory of such a kiss but you spend time comparing yourself to others in every context, and that is of little use.
to disrupt that get into the moment.
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: redgreenvines]
#28337763 - 05/28/23 03:14 AM (7 months, 28 days ago) |
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The alphabet?
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: BrendanFlock]
#28337772 - 05/28/23 03:29 AM (7 months, 28 days ago) |
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I can't think of a single unit in existence that cannot be communicated as a symbol.
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: BrendanFlock]
#28337773 - 05/28/23 03:31 AM (7 months, 28 days ago) |
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The potential/destiny of a single unit as a sigil?
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: BrendanFlock]
#28337775 - 05/28/23 03:39 AM (7 months, 28 days ago) |
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let me put it this way, a single colored pixel is not that poignant, but a few of them begin to make a picture (i.e. can be symbolic), and that picture's linkages can ramify by associative connections sustained and expanded - bringing forth aspects of personal memory or cognizance (aka meaning).
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: redgreenvines]
#28337792 - 05/28/23 04:16 AM (7 months, 28 days ago) |
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How a single thing has a place in the total causeway.
The associations of a single thing with other specific selected units.
How close are these things?
What does it mean that these things are adjacent to other (multiple) things..?
What is the total meaning?
Gestalt?
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: BrendanFlock]
#28337800 - 05/28/23 04:35 AM (7 months, 28 days ago) |
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the connectedness of mental contents is a living personal map of where we have been physically and mentally and how we have felt about it and more associations grow in it 10 times per second from the impressions of where we are, and the last five minutes of it are more meaningful than other memory. Less than five minutes when stoned, and sometimes less than a few seconds when really stoned, and you don't even know who you are, just that everything seems so poignant and ramified that you could plotz.
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: redgreenvines]
#28337823 - 05/28/23 05:29 AM (7 months, 28 days ago) |
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Quote:
redgreenvines said: In terms of my understanding of memory, nothing in your sphere of activity provides access to the memory of such a kiss but you spend time comparing yourself to others in every context, and that is of little use.
to disrupt that get into the moment.
Just how does it feel getting into the moment?
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: Pinkerton]
#28337887 - 05/28/23 06:39 AM (7 months, 28 days ago) |
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: Pinkerton]
#28337900 - 05/28/23 06:56 AM (7 months, 28 days ago) |
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Quote:
Pinkerton said:
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redgreenvines said: In terms of my understanding of memory, nothing in your sphere of activity provides access to the memory of such a kiss but you spend time comparing yourself to others in every context, and that is of little use.
to disrupt that get into the moment.
Just how does it feel getting into the moment?
How do you feel right now? Just be aware of how you actually feel right now.
You don't get there. You're already there. Why ask questions that no one can answer but you? The question you could be asking is how does it feel (for you) getting being in the moment?
How does it feel?
I'd like you to answer that question for yourself. But in my case, it's morning, I feel rested. I just drank coffee, feeling more awake. I feel a little more achy than normal because it's allergy season, but I feel much better than I did a few days ago because it's just rained. I feel good about the short term future because allergy season is just about over. I dread allergy season. I feel infatuated with someone who is also infatuated with me. It's a difficult situation, but I feel confident in my ability to navigate it because I've done it before, and because she's a decent person and has proven that to me. She may try to run away. I will let her. She may come back. I will let her. She is free to do what she wants.
I also feel alive. There's an energetic sense of being that is just there. It's exciting and relaxing. Calm but alert. I feel other things because that's how humans are. I'm okay with that. One thing I don't feel is a sense of dread over having other feelings. It can be difficult at times but it's better than wanting to run and hide, cry, beg, moan, etc. Those other feelings come and go, like waves. I am on the water. In the water. Floating.
Humans can float you know. They tend to drown when they don't believe they can float. Flail their arms around trying to swim, when all they need to do is lean back and breathe and trust that they can float.
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: Rahz]
#28338031 - 05/28/23 09:11 AM (7 months, 28 days ago) |
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hahaha, I'm so skinny I barely float, hahaha!
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: redgreenvines]
#28338058 - 05/28/23 09:28 AM (7 months, 28 days ago) |
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Sounds like a high quality problem.
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: Rahz]
#28340109 - 05/29/23 11:29 PM (7 months, 26 days ago) |
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Symbolic expression is fascinating, perhaps the future of religion if done properly.
Imagine if we moved beyond certain dogmas which can often divide people and let symbols speak to our subconscious, that would be interesting.
Sign me up, The First Church of the Subconscious Symbolic Light!
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: Lucis] 1
#28340143 - 05/30/23 12:24 AM (7 months, 26 days ago) |
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you might like Jung's man and his symbols
I think you would enjoy everything about Jung.
probably even his sandwiches.
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: Lucis]
#28340144 - 05/30/23 12:25 AM (7 months, 26 days ago) |
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Hod, the 8th sphere on The Tree of Life. Kabballah.
Is the idea of things being symbols of communication.
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: BrendanFlock]
#28340162 - 05/30/23 12:58 AM (7 months, 26 days ago) |
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I think the idea is union or binding
I bind myself to this person or idea or place by this symbol.
I share my binding with these ideas by sharing this symbol.
or all my related concepts are associated to this symbol.
it is a demonstration of association.
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: BrendanFlock]
#28340242 - 05/30/23 04:33 AM (7 months, 26 days ago) |
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Certainty is expressed partially or perfectly.
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: BrendanFlock]
#28340276 - 05/30/23 05:23 AM (7 months, 26 days ago) |
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your symbol for that would be?
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: redgreenvines]
#28341019 - 05/30/23 07:30 PM (7 months, 25 days ago) |
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A circle or a c shape?
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: BrendanFlock]
#28341056 - 05/30/23 08:13 PM (7 months, 25 days ago) |
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kinda like the Enso?
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: The Blind Ass] 1
#28341082 - 05/30/23 08:29 PM (7 months, 25 days ago) |
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: The Blind Ass]
#28341401 - 05/31/23 05:25 AM (7 months, 25 days ago) |
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The Blind Ass said: kinda like the Enso?
Ahh, I just looked that up..
I agree yes an enso brushed circle..
Symbol of completion and enlightenment.
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: BrendanFlock] 1
#28341463 - 05/31/23 06:11 AM (7 months, 25 days ago) |
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Math is symbolic, along with language, sologamy, all art, etc.
I guess the OP was questioning whether some symbolic expression is more useful than others.
(not trying to steer the topic, just wanted to clarify)
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Re: Usefulness of symbolic expression [Re: Rahz] 2
#28341539 - 05/31/23 07:32 AM (7 months, 25 days ago) |
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their usefulness varies by the expertise of those who play the symbols
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