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Asante
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plant a European Elderberry! 1
#28334497 - 05/25/23 05:27 PM (7 months, 30 days ago) |
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My European Elderberry cuttings i planted in spring now are full of foliage and are optimistically in bloom, small as they are:

its Sambucus Nigra var Haschberg, the elderberry with the most blossoms, biggest sweetest berries loaded with anthocyanins
you can harvest and dry the blossoms to make tea or steeo in 20% alc as brandy, you can freeze the berries, dry them, juice them or make elderberry gin or jelly jam.
if you let it go, it will get 1c0 foot high and wide and yield up to 1c00 lbs berries per season. In smaller gardens you prune, and the twigs are cuttings that can be planted in soil or first rooted. It grows like a weed so it can be invasive if you let it.
Why go through the trouble? Elderberries give strength and endurance to the ill, weakened and athletes, and it boosts the immune system and is specifically antiviral against airway infections like the common cild and mild to moderate influenza or covid.
It attract pollinators like bees and butterflies but repels insect pests, so plant it by yopur door or window to keep insects away.
the juice must be briefly heated if you will eat it in quantity.
We're entering a time where its good to have something that add strength and health to you, and you can readily spread cuttings to friends and in the wild, like an unsightly vacant lot.
Not just saying this
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CreonAntigone
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Re: plant a European Elderberry! [Re: Asante]
#28335257 - 05/26/23 09:18 AM (7 months, 30 days ago) |
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the juice must be briefly heated if you will eat it in quantity.
Elderberry extract helps me a lot and tastes great. However I get a bit wary of reading about the cyanide glycosides that the raw form contains. I suppose people say that they need to be cooked first to eliminate this, but how much cooking is needed? How toxic would a raw berry be?
And one would presumably need to cook the berries before use in a tincture, right?
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Asante
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its not very toxic and its reversible up to a degree.
its as volatile as ether, so warming it a bit for a moment is enough, or just letting it stand on room temperature.
its a good idea to pick a commercial juice variety like haschberg which are optimized in flavor as well as cyanide.
a haschberg produces 2-3x more blossoms or berries than a random one from the wild, so it makes sense to take a bit of effort to get the right one.
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Edited by Asante (05/26/23 12:34 PM)
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Re: plant a European Elderberry! [Re: Asante]
#28337172 - 05/27/23 04:04 PM (7 months, 28 days ago) |
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They had a japanese elderberry variety at a botanical garden I went to... I wonder how the yield and medicinal properties compare.
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Edited by KannaKris (06/09/23 04:20 AM)
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