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Drug withdrawal
    #28332092 - 05/24/23 05:31 AM (8 months, 1 day ago)

Hey there!

I hope that's the correct category to post such stuff.

So I was wondering, let's assume the following scenario: A person is addicted to some kind of drug. The person tries to get away from that drug, which leads to some heavy withdrawal symptoms. After a while, let's say some week or months, the person gets addicted to that same drug again. And now the whole situation repeats itself, again and again and again...

Is there a chance of getting more and more resistant to the withdrawal symptoms of that drug? So that the person may be able to just stop taking the drug at some point and no single withdrawal symptom occurs?

Please enlighten me, I am not sure if the given scenario might be valid.


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Re: Drug withdrawal [Re: ChonkiWonki] * 1
    #28332135 - 05/24/23 06:41 AM (8 months, 1 day ago)

you told it right.
in a perfect world being able to get unaddicted easily
means you don't mind if you get addicted at all.

but in reality addiction is addiction.


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Re: Drug withdrawal [Re: ChonkiWonki]
    #28332153 - 05/24/23 07:05 AM (8 months, 1 day ago)

This type of question reveals the ambiguous (and often contradictory) nature of the concepts surrounding "addiction".  It's a term that we tend to believe is based in science yet is often shrouded in magical mystical ideas.

(You propose that a person can become addicted and then unaddicted and then addicted again.  Which implies that someone can be in control of their behaviors, then lose control of their behaviors, and then regain control of their behaviors, and so on) 

As to your question, I believe people can become tolerant of the physiological and psychological discomforts associated with withdrawal, but I'm skeptical that repeated withdrawals could eventually lead to a lack of withdrawal symptoms.


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Re: Drug withdrawal [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28332334 - 05/24/23 09:56 AM (8 months, 1 day ago)

I read addiction changes brain chemistry that withdrawal doesn't revoke. Is this correct?


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Re: Drug withdrawal [Re: ChonkiWonki]
    #28332365 - 05/24/23 10:33 AM (8 months, 1 day ago)

I have witnessed a lot of opiate and synthetic opiate withdrawals. Multiple times by the same people. It seems like it gets worse every time. In fact, they say each time is worse.


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Re: Drug withdrawal [Re: loladoreen]
    #28333034 - 05/24/23 05:55 PM (8 months, 20 hours ago)

*Mithrandir rolled over in his grave*

Is Op asking if enduring repeated bouts of drug withdrawal can result in immunity to the syndrome?  If so, then no.

What it would do is further complicate the matter.  As in make things worse.  Op, can you be specific about what substance/drug?
One thing to be aware of is:  The Kindling Effect.  Wiki it.

As for how come no immunity is developed against drug withdrawal once the conditions for dependency are set?  Probably something similar as to why hot things always cool unless they're stopped from doing so by something?  hnnn...

  TLDR: iirc there is no known method for obtaining physical immunity against (*4 example) opiate/opioid withdrawal syndrome.  However, there are a few tried & true ways or means of mitigating some symptoms of drug withdrawal. :sadyes:  Depends.



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Re: Drug withdrawal [Re: ChonkiWonki]
    #28333450 - 05/24/23 11:58 PM (8 months, 14 hours ago)

I think it's important to develop reflexive behaviours that align with not taking the drug.

It can be a long process and isn't necessarily cold turkey. So with sugar this is the approach I've used, but with something hardcore and addictive, I'm not sure it translates as well.


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Re: Drug withdrawal [Re: ChonkiWonki] * 2
    #28333474 - 05/25/23 01:01 AM (8 months, 13 hours ago)

Quote:

ChonkiWonki said:
Hey there!

I hope that's the correct category to post such stuff.

So I was wondering, let's assume the following scenario: A person is addicted to some kind of drug. The person tries to get away from that drug, which leads to some heavy withdrawal symptoms. After a while, let's say some week or months, the person gets addicted to that same drug again. And now the whole situation repeats itself, again and again and again...

Is there a chance of getting more and more resistant to the withdrawal symptoms of that drug? So that the person may be able to just stop taking the drug at some point and no single withdrawal symptom occurs?

Please enlighten me, I am not sure if the given scenario might be valid.




Withdrawal is a painful healing of the wounds caused by repeated habitual drug use. In the scenario where a person withdraws once and recovers, they in fact have developed an immunity, that is, they're healthy again.

But if drug use resumes, it rips up the same wounds. The body just hurt itself trying to get rid of its dependence, and then the drug brings a new dependence on top of that.

A way to think of it would be: does one develop immunity to being stabbed, or does the third or fourth stab hurt MORE than the previous? We all know the answer to this question. The damage is so large and takes so long to recover that there's no immunity to stabbing, and repeating it will just worsen and build on the damage from the previous injuries. It's the same with drug withdrawal.


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