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Has anybody bought seeds or grown Ayahuasca? What about Psychotria viridis vs. Diplopterys cabrerana
    #9166796 - 11/01/08 01:21 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Can it be grown in The U.S.?

Which regions of The U.S. would it be confined to?

What about indoor grows?

What about What about Psychotria viridis vs. Diplopterys cabrerana?

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Re: Has anybody bought seeds or grown Ayahuasca? What about Psychotria viridis vs. Diplopterys cabrerana [Re: mushroomhunter10]
    #9167474 - 11/01/08 09:49 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Not one person has grown these trees/plants or knows the difference between them??

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Re: Has anybody bought seeds or grown Ayahuasca? What about Psychotria viridis vs. Diplopterys cabrerana (moved) [Re: mushroomhunter10]
    #9167534 - 11/01/08 10:11 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Has anybody bought seeds or grown Ayahuasca? What about Psychotria viridis vs. Diplopterys cabrerana (moved) [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #9170021 - 11/01/08 09:03 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

So which plant makes the best DMT??

I guess there are two main constituents... Which of the two gives the best yield?

Anybody else have more info about my questions above??


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Re: Has anybody bought seeds or grown Ayahuasca? What about Psychotria viridis vs. Diplopterys cabrerana (moved) [Re: mushroomhunter10]
    #9170066 - 11/01/08 09:15 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Ayay is not a plant it's reference to plants used as snuff, androssea var columbar (sp) has a pretty high DMT/Bufotenin content though, and sprouts nicely.


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Re: Has anybody bought seeds or grown Ayahuasca? What about Psychotria viridis vs. Diplopterys cabrerana (moved) [Re: Prof. Astro]
    #9170077 - 11/01/08 09:20 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

What about my initial questions though?

I never said anything about Ayay  :shrug:


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Re: Has anybody bought seeds or grown Ayahuasca? What about Psychotria viridis vs. Diplopterys cabrerana (moved) [Re: mushroomhunter10]
    #9171482 - 11/02/08 07:39 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

mushroomhunter10 said:
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Has anybody bought seeds or grown Ayahuasca?




Check the DMT vault at Erowid.


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Re: Has anybody bought seeds or grown Ayahuasca? What about Psychotria viridis vs. Diplopterys cabrerana (moved) [Re: schmutzen]
    #9171565 - 11/02/08 08:42 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I meant ayahuasca, that was your question. You can't grow a mixture, you can grow the plant containing it.


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Re: Has anybody bought seeds or grown Ayahuasca? What about Psychotria viridis vs. Diplopterys cabrerana (moved) [Re: Prof. Astro]
    #9171830 - 11/02/08 10:33 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Ayay is not a plant it's reference to plants used as snuff, androssea var columbar (sp) has a pretty high DMT/Bufotenin content though, and sprouts nicely.




Lol, did you mean Anadenanthera columbrina? Never heard of Androssea.


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Re: Has anybody bought seeds or grown Ayahuasca? What about Psychotria viridis vs. Diplopterys cabrerana (moved) [Re: felixhigh]
    #9171948 - 11/02/08 11:08 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I grow p viridis and I'm in zone 9. It can take temps down to freezing but not below. It can survive temps down to the teens but will lose leaves and branches but may grow back. I happen to have berries I can swap. I suppose that should go in the marketplace but I've been too lazy to post it. It's not a fast growing plant but you can take one leaf and produce up to a dozen new plants from it.


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Re: Has anybody bought seeds or grown Ayahuasca? What about Psychotria viridis vs. Diplopterys cabrerana (moved) [Re: Stonehenge]
    #9172248 - 11/02/08 12:31 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Which of the plants has the highest DMT levels?

Can they all be cultivated in The U.S.?


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Re: Has anybody bought seeds or grown Ayahuasca? What about Psychotria viridis vs. Diplopterys cabrerana (moved) [Re: mushroomhunter10]
    #9172311 - 11/02/08 12:46 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

There IS a vine called the Ayahuasca vine. Its real name is Banisteriopsis caapi. Its a Beta Carboline and doesn't contain DMT.

  also you can cultivate ANY plant in the US if you give it the right growing conditions "indoors ect.."

  A Columbrina sucks donkey nuts because of the Bufotenine.  I tried smoking it a few times and got nothing but full body charliehorses so bad it made me almost vomit. Not even a slight DMT feeling. I don't think it contains any DMT.
 
  The highest DMT content is in Mimosa Hostillis but theres another plant that theoretically has way more but its unconfirmed.... Phalaris Brachystachys. If Phalaris B. contains a third of what its supposed to it would still be the highest DMT yielder known and would only take a few months to harvest VS a few years for the others.

  Psychotria however is a great plant to grow. I have a few of them. Diplop would be great too but I have never seen the seeds for sale anywhere. I wish I did.
  It does contain some 5MEO-DMT though but I have had the brew made with it and it was great.


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Re: Has anybody bought seeds or grown Ayahuasca? What about Psychotria viridis vs. Diplopterys cabrerana (moved) [Re: cpw1971]
    #9172383 - 11/02/08 01:05 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks!
That was painless.


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Re: Has anybody bought seeds or grown Ayahuasca? What about Psychotria viridis vs. Diplopterys cabre [Re: mushroomhunter10]
    #9172577 - 11/02/08 01:53 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry to high jack this thread, but does anyone know of any sites with information on cultivating any of these plants?  I checked erowid, but could not find anything


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Re: Has anybody bought seeds or grown Ayahuasca? What about Psychotria viridis vs. Diplopterys cabrerana (moved) [Re: felixhigh]
    #9172833 - 11/02/08 02:52 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, my mind is a bit off today lately, I have a few pics of my seedlings if you want to see what they look like OP.


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Re: Has anybody bought seeds or grown Ayahuasca? What about Psychotria viridis vs. Diplopterys cabre [Re: juju]
    #9172839 - 11/02/08 02:54 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Sorry to high jack this thread, but does anyone know of any sites with information on cultivating any of these plants?  I checked erowid, but could not find anything




Well, lets see, there is... the shroomery. Ever heard of it? Do a search. This has all been discussed before.


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Re: Has anybody bought seeds or grown Ayahuasca? What about Psychotria viridis vs. Diplopterys cabre [Re: Stonehenge]
    #9174343 - 11/02/08 08:11 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Usually when you post content with key words the software prompts you with similar threads before you can press continue.

I just wanted to know which ones are the most potent that would grow in The U.S...

It seems that DMT can be made from a lot of different species...

Now I have to research Phalaris Brachystachys

Thanks for the help all.


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Re: Has anybody bought seeds or grown Ayahuasca? What about Psychotria viridis vs. Diplopterys cabre [Re: mushroomhunter10]
    #9174420 - 11/02/08 08:26 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I didn't realize that Phalaris Brachystachys is a grass... lol

I'm kind of looking for a type of tree or shrub.

Thanks for all the suggestions.


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Re: Has anybody bought seeds or grown Ayahuasca? What about Psychotria viridis vs. Diplopterys cabrerana [Re: mushroomhunter10]
    #28323587 - 05/17/23 04:43 PM (8 months, 8 days ago)

I've just purchased small B. Caapi and Psychotria Viridis rooted plants. I paid about $75 each for smaallll rooted plants, just mixed em in with ALL my other plants, gonna be great. I've also started lateral San Pedro cuttings... I'm in Southern US


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Re: Has anybody bought seeds or grown Ayahuasca? What about Psychotria viridis vs. Diplopterys cabrerana [Re: antipro]
    #28325155 - 05/18/23 04:53 PM (8 months, 7 days ago)

Congratulations my friend!
Grow on!
I'd often choose more than just one species, but if I had to pick just one DMT plant for Aya:
I would have chosen Psychotria carthaginensis in first place, in second, P. alba, and, despite I like very much the viridis plants (specially P. viridis var viridis, with green flowers), it grows rather slow, and it doesn't tolerates well lower temperatures, its the most demanding of the Psychotrias eligible for Aya.
And, there is also another catch, that most people are unaware of.
This is said by a scientific paper which I can't find right now, but the alkaloid levels in those plants fluctuates along the day, so the DMT concentration is related to the time its been harvested.
Just avoid harvesting during mid day, or midnight and you will be ok.

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