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First Mono grow - lots of moisture but no knots (unmodified)
    #28321889 - 05/16/23 11:47 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Hey guys.

Today is day 12 since spawning to my first monotub (unmodified- taped up holes from a shitty cut out this time).

It fully colonized after about 9 days and had nice glistening moisture on top since day 5. As the days go on, the droplets on the surface are getting larger and larger and it's a bit concerning to me. I had the lip flipped correctly until day 10, and then turned it upside down to introduce FAE. So far there are no signs or any knots, just tons of large droplets.

Naturally since I've come this far (probably a total of 2 months since MS to agar) I want this to go right since I'm at the end.
I'm having the same issue with two shoebox's  that are at day 11.

The first pic is of one shoe box and the last two are of my mono. They are getting 12/12 light as well. Should I cut out a few openings in the tape for more FAE?


Any input is greatly appreciated.


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Re: First Mono grow - lots of moisture but no knots (unmodified) [Re: redrum] * 2
    #28321890 - 05/16/23 11:49 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Re: First Mono grow - lots of moisture but no knots (unmodified) [Re: Screwup]
    #28321894 - 05/16/23 11:55 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Yeah, just leave it alone dude. It'll work itself out.


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Re: First Mono grow - lots of moisture but no knots (unmodified) [Re: Way] * 1
    #28321896 - 05/16/23 11:56 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

FWIW they all look really good IMO.


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Re: First Mono grow - lots of moisture but no knots (unmodified) [Re: Screwup] * 1
    #28321897 - 05/16/23 11:58 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Awesome Gents, that's what I needed to hear :grin:

Thanks for the affirmation Screwup!

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Re: First Mono grow - lots of moisture but no knots (unmodified) [Re: redrum] * 1
    #28322065 - 05/16/23 02:40 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Looks good dude, just be patient you are super close :mushroom2:

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Re: First Mono grow - lots of moisture but no knots (unmodified) [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #28322906 - 05/17/23 07:58 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Awesome, thank you!

How would I know if or when I need to add or increase FAE? Any particular signs or time I need to do it?

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Re: First Mono grow - lots of moisture but no knots (unmodified) [Re: redrum]
    #28323104 - 05/17/23 10:28 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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Awesome, thank you!

How would I know if or when I need to add or increase FAE? Any particular signs or time I need to do it?




Aerial mycelium, fuzzy feet, tall skinny fruit, and puddles of moisture that don't dry are the easy ones.

Some people like to increase fae a bit when pinning starts. I keep mine the same from day one until harvest.


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Re: First Mono grow - lots of moisture but no knots (unmodified) [Re: Way]
    #28323174 - 05/17/23 11:25 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Just got home and checked on my two shoeboxes. They both developed these yellow/brown spots it seems overnight.
Cause for concern?


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Re: First Mono grow - lots of moisture but no knots (unmodified) [Re: redrum]
    #28323303 - 05/17/23 12:50 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Looks like metabolite staining and probably from where the puddles are sitting. I wouldn't stress too hard.

You shouldn't have anything bigger than a bead Ideally. You can take a paper towel and gently soak up some moisture. Otherwise you can try to slightly increase fae. Since it is unmodified, flip the lid if it's not flipped. Then rotate the lid to create gaps on each corner.

Be careful though because you can overdo it. If it starts to completely dry up and you have to mist, it is a very slippery slope.


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Re: First Mono grow - lots of moisture but no knots (unmodified) [Re: Way] * 1
    #28327646 - 05/20/23 02:30 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

I'm a poppa!

Some little guys poking through!


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Re: First Mono grow - lots of moisture but no knots (unmodified) [Re: redrum]
    #28327654 - 05/20/23 02:42 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Way to go. Keep on top of surface conditions. Don't let the substrate surface dry out too much, make sure it still has enough FAE and you should be golden. Well done. :smile:


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Re: First Mono grow - lots of moisture but no knots (unmodified) [Re: johnukguy]
    #28327659 - 05/20/23 02:44 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Do I increase FAE and prepare to mist now as needed or leave alone till harvest?

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Re: First Mono grow - lots of moisture but no knots (unmodified) [Re: redrum]
    #28327688 - 05/20/23 03:23 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

If the surface substrate isn't too wet, as in having pooling, larger drops of water, then your FAE may be okay. If it does then increase FAE slightly. If the substrate tends to dry out quickly on the other hand, then you can put the lid on the tub, if it's not airtight, to dial that in a little more.


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Re: First Mono grow - lots of moisture but no knots (unmodified) [Re: redrum] * 1
    #28327748 - 05/20/23 04:07 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

What he sayeth^^^
Just adjust FAE slowly


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Re: First Mono grow - lots of moisture but no knots (unmodified) [Re: fiddle_head] * 1
    #28332597 - 05/24/23 01:36 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

They are growing really fast now but a few have had their veil break. They seem really small at this stage for this to happen.

I wanted to take a clone from a cluster but don't want to end up with small fruit genetics.
Any reason why they would be this small?


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Re: First Mono grow - lots of moisture but no knots (unmodified) [Re: redrum]
    #28332599 - 05/24/23 01:37 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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Re: First Mono grow - lots of moisture but no knots (unmodified) [Re: Screwup]
    #28333715 - 05/25/23 07:22 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

I'll have to wait to see which get the biggest to clone from.

In the meantime, they aren't coming in flushes like pf tek and going to ha e to pick them as they mature. How am I supposed to dunk to rehydrate if there coming up at all different times?

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Re: First Mono grow - lots of moisture but no knots (unmodified) [Re: redrum]
    #28333725 - 05/25/23 07:27 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

You can just bottoms water them. Pour water halfway or slightly higher up the substrate. After 12~ hours pour off what’s left.

Pick mature shrooms, put them in a container with a paper towel in the fridge (up to 5 days I think), and then pick more as you want to dehydrate at the same time.


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Re: First Mono grow - lots of moisture but no knots (unmodified) [Re: Screwup]
    #28333763 - 05/25/23 08:01 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Can someone correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the first flush sometimes smaller than the second?


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