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Feeling slighted sometimes motivates me to face new predicaments.
    #28320166 - 05/15/23 04:29 AM (8 months, 10 days ago)

Originally titled: Why is spite a good motivator?

I wrote a field guide on invasive plant identification out of spite for a coworkers inability to identify them without my constant intervention.

To help improve work efficiency, with a filling of spite, and some genuine passion I spent a lot of time to make it and did so pretty well, only to have the fellow leave the week before I finished it.

Alas, there are other times when I've just been fed up with how things have turned out and have been driven to try and make the change I want to see.

Does anyone else have experience with this?

I'm referring to feeling spited, not giving it to others.


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Re: Why is spite a good motivator? [Re: sudly] * 1
    #28320176 - 05/15/23 04:47 AM (8 months, 10 days ago)

It's not. But I find it's associated with reaction, retaliation, trying to one up another. If that were the case it might be to get even. Wrong country, wrong time.


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Re: Why is spite a good motivator? [Re: burntkitty]
    #28320190 - 05/15/23 05:25 AM (8 months, 10 days ago)

Or perhaps anomic asphasia (an inability to attach proper names) triggers the question to figures of authority.


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Re: Why is spite a good motivator? [Re: sudly]
    #28320483 - 05/15/23 11:19 AM (8 months, 10 days ago)

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sudly said:

I wrote a field guide on invasive plant identification out of spite for a coworkers inability to identify them without my constant intervention.




Is it possible the coworker was unwilling to put forth the effort?  In my career, I've encountered some employees using manipulative (and creative) methods to get others to do the work.  Being unable to do a task is sometimes a disguise for being unwilling to do the task.  I've seen this tactic a lot. 

I've been manipulated into being "driven to create the change I want to see" because I tend to enjoy work and have the personality, "If you want something done right, do it yourself".  I've held a grudge against employees who have done this to me, yet I should also blame myself. 

Once a manipulative employee knows they can game their coworkers, things become toxic quickly.


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Re: Why is spite a good motivator? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28320557 - 05/15/23 12:32 PM (8 months, 10 days ago)

Is it possible the coworker was unwilling to put forth the effort?  In my career, I've encountered some employees using manipulative (and creative) methods to get others to do the work.  Being unable to do a task is sometimes a disguise for being unwilling to do the task.  I've seen this tactic a lot.
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There's more than one game in town that's attractive. It seems like youngsters will shirk more readily because they are not acclimated and don't enjoy the toil simply for the pleasure and a good sleep. OP's ego, I suppose, engenders a dominant overseer attitude that bolsters a might = right perspective over the weak in body or mind. I also harbor grains of resentment while simultaneously acknowledging the advice in James1 that chickens will come home to roost.


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Re: Why is spite a good motivator? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #28320616 - 05/15/23 01:20 PM (8 months, 10 days ago)

I use to end up doing the work for other people, but nowadays if it's noticeable I just stop what I'm doing and show them the visual so it adds to my point.

Did it again recently and one fella with control issues started a huff but in the end he wasn't compliant with safety practices and the discussion ended up being very fruitful.

Going over a workload a second time urks me in ways I no longer hold to myself.

The first guy was a good guy and mate, but he was effectively blind so the role simply wasn't suitable.

Turns out he had over 40 publications in chemistry but he had a $1500 prescription for glasses.


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Re: Why is spite a good motivator? [Re: sudly]
    #28320810 - 05/15/23 04:31 PM (8 months, 9 days ago)

I suspect creating a field guide / plant identification key would take a lot of time and patience!  Kudos to you.  Hope others get some use out of it.


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Re: Why is spite a good motivator? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28321085 - 05/15/23 08:58 PM (8 months, 9 days ago)

It's on a shelf in some department, it was also a good time to spend with the ex while she studied.

It's hard to say whether my feelings of annoyance drove the tipping over into action, but I did go back to the thoughts a lot. Almost like I wanted to help him help me and challenge myself in doing so.


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Re: Why is spite a good motivator? [Re: sudly] * 1
    #28323242 - 05/17/23 12:20 PM (8 months, 8 days ago)

Perhaps a fine line between spite and creative frustration?


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Re: Why is spite a good motivator? [Re: Rahz]
    #28323374 - 05/17/23 01:30 PM (8 months, 8 days ago)

I like the term creative frustration, like when there's a frustrating issue you want to see resolved, it can be a motivation to attempt to do so. To create a sense of alleviation or there about a.


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Feeling slighted sometimes motivates me to face new predicaments. [Re: sudly] * 1
    #28324033 - 05/17/23 09:21 PM (8 months, 7 days ago)

I think that feeling slighted is better than describing it as spite.

Feeling slighted may lead to a kind of creative frustration.

I also feel slighted by the laws in my country, but I do see legislative change due for schedule 8 labels, and we'll see how that goes.

I said in another thread that, "If I was on deaths bed I'd ask to be sent to Amsterdam and filled with psilocybin to see what article I wrote."

I haven't tripped since 2018.

From 2015 to 2018, :ohwow: What a trippy couple O years.

The legend of those years is within me.

:jimmies:


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