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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: shruglife] * 3
    #28312737 - 05/09/23 01:05 PM (9 months, 4 days ago)

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This leads me to the question - anyone have any experience microdosing with these?




I love microdosing with these. Specifically, I have experience with the less potent (melgo) genetic line. Cubes can give me this body buzz that feels adjacent to anxiety, but these semps give me a much cleaner mental boost.

I personally like a 0.1g micro dose but that's on the high end. I think a good starting point is 0.06-0.08g.




I hate that anxiety-like moments, but I always thought it was much higher in my trips than friends and others' I've tripped with. Though there's no way to evaluate/compare the level of anxiety between people. The high pulse rates and stress-like feeling, most of times ruined the come-up to first half of my trips, and it kinda faded/forgotten later and at coming-down.


I'm really glad/excited to see those dosages you proposed. Can't wait for my trays/buckets to fruit.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: shruglife] * 1
    #28312761 - 05/09/23 01:30 PM (9 months, 4 days ago)

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I love microdosing with these. Specifically, I have experience with the less potent (melgo) genetic line. Cubes can give me this body buzz that feels adjacent to anxiety, but these semps give me a much cleaner mental boost.

I personally like a 0.1g micro dose but that's on the high end. I think a good starting point is 0.06-0.08g.




I totally get that. I find that some cube isos give me that feeling more than others and often it gets worse if I don’t mix it up ie I keep “mini dosing” with the same cubes.

The other thing is if I get that restless anxiety feeling it’s often transformed into a nice energy buzz if I can get outside and start walking around. This is not ideal though if I have to sit and work in front of my computer.

I’m happy to hear people love doing small doses of semps cause I must have had a tiny dose when I ate those grains and it was really clean and really energetic. So nice.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: psilocybist] * 4
    #28312766 - 05/09/23 01:32 PM (9 months, 4 days ago)

Just a PSA, subtrop has active mycelium! I'd recommend running jars or bags of your favorite grain and forget about them for a couple months. Grind the dried grains into flour or make some tea! Probably great for micro.

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: YoshiTrainer] * 1
    #28312786 - 05/09/23 01:44 PM (9 months, 4 days ago)

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Just a PSA, subtrop has active mycelium! I'd recommend running jars or bags of your favorite grain and forget about them for a couple months. Grind the dried grains into flour or make some tea! Probably great for micro.

:carlton:




100%

This is what I was just saying. I ate a really small amount of colonised grains and pretty much turned into the dancing Carlton gif. I LOVE the idea of drying and storing some, especially while I’m waiting for/learning how to properly grow fruits.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Telomere]
    #28312844 - 05/09/23 02:40 PM (9 months, 4 days ago)

mycelium on grain is active? how to dose it, any recommendations?


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: chris77] * 3
    #28312892 - 05/09/23 03:19 PM (9 months, 4 days ago)

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26303098#26303098

"I can attest to the fact that the method does work surprisingly well, but the potency of mycelium seems to be characteristic of the particular species mentioned in the tek. 1 level tablespoon of dehydrated whole kernels (incubated 2 months) equals roughly 1 gram dried cubensis. Making tea from the kernels is as easy and effective as making tea from dried fruits."


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: YoshiTrainer] * 6
    #28312921 - 05/09/23 03:47 PM (9 months, 4 days ago)

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... On a related note, I want to try the mycilated<sp> grain too.

Pre final shake. 60 days since inoc.


Immediately post shake


An hour after shake. Getting pretty blue.


Pre dehydration (just the one quart, left the others to continue to age)


Post dehydration


Now it is in a vacuum sealed jar awaiting trial. Hoping to get a chance this weekend.




So I finally got a chance to try this last week. Made a tea of 2 level tablespoons of grain dehydrated 24 hours a month earlier.

It was a little underwhelming. Very nice body high, but not much going on in my head and no visuals, cev nor oev. The grain was stored in a vacuum sealed jar upon completion of dehydration and was from jars that had been colonizing for 64 days. Maybe it takes longer to get good and done.


It was pleasant and over in about 2 hours. I will give it another go or three since I have several quarts of dehydrated grains now. But I want to give the fruits a try first. Still haven't done a bio-assay on the fruits yet, and now I have to also try out my nats.

Too many new things to try and not enough time. Not the worst problem to have.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc]
    #28312934 - 05/09/23 03:56 PM (9 months, 4 days ago)

Maybe there is some relation to the slow vs fast fruiting genetics theory involved in mycelium strength?


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: YoshiTrainer]
    #28312948 - 05/09/23 04:08 PM (9 months, 4 days ago)

Could be. This is the same line that started throwing pins in under 2 weeks. So wicked fast. Will have to update after I try the fruits from this line.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc] * 2
    #28313007 - 05/09/23 05:03 PM (9 months, 4 days ago)

Hi there!
just got the melgo version going on agar, and would be quite interested to grow the slow fruiting version (for example ambrose) and too use it for experimenting with mycelated grain too. if any one could help me out with that pls pm me.
i have some pseudoaztecorum/ pearled barley bags ripening aswell atm, these are roughly 2 months old now, gonna give them another month before testing.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Mandrake Erpelmann] * 4
    #28313643 - 05/10/23 03:19 AM (9 months, 3 days ago)

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"(melgo) genetic line" ; "melgo version" ; "Melgo variant"




OMG :lol: It's nice to have my 15 minutes of fame on Shroomery associated to the Sacred Semperviva Mushroom, but I feel like a total fraud!

I've already said it and will say it again: but I've just luckily inherited this swab from alaskappalachian and managed to share the print Love around the globe. That's all :smile:

I've contacted the 2 shroomery members who could have possibly sent alaskappalachian its first print, in order to trace back the true origin of this lineage, but no answer. I don't think they're active on the site anymore (unfortunately). Maybe one day, we'll see and I'll let you guys know here.

To add to the microdosing topic: I settled on 60mg (0.06g). That's my sweet spot for good mood and productivity at work.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Melgo] * 2
    #28313647 - 05/10/23 03:34 AM (9 months, 3 days ago)

Hi.. maybe a weird question. But I wondered if anyone did a Kilindi dose with these? I plan on 3gr dried from the potent batch next time and want to do a 5gr dose in the future for my first 20gr cube equivalent. As these mushrooms are so good I feel it's time to go higher.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] * 3
    #28313684 - 05/10/23 04:59 AM (9 months, 3 days ago)

That dose is insane to me.

Where does 5g of cubes typically put you?


I’m definitely sensitive to drugs but my highest dose was 5.5g of cubes and I had an out of body experience from that.

I don’t even think I’d remember 20g.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: A.k.a]
    #28313693 - 05/10/23 05:18 AM (9 months, 3 days ago)

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That dose is insane to me.

Where does 5g of cubes typically put you?


I’m definitely sensitive to drugs but my highest dose was 5.5g of cubes and I had an out of body experience from that.

I don’t even think I’d remember 20g.




I'm moderately sensitive, 5gr cubes is absolute oblivion.. death.. 0,2gr of cubes is a normal microdose for me.
The biggest doses I had was 2,5gr pan cyan estero and 1gr bisporus, which were both more potent than 5gr of cubes.. 2gr of subtropicalis also felt around 5gr of cubes, but it was a weak batch.. but with the potent batch of 3gr would be around the 10gr cubes or more and I would like to understand what those doses are about as I can't fantom anything more crazy than what I went through already


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] * 1
    #28313754 - 05/10/23 06:30 AM (9 months, 3 days ago)

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That dose is insane to me.

Where does 5g of cubes typically put you?


I’m definitely sensitive to drugs but my highest dose was 5.5g of cubes and I had an out of body experience from that.

I don’t even think I’d remember 20g.




I'm moderately sensitive, 5gr cubes is absolute oblivion.. death.. 0,2gr of cubes is a normal microdose for me.
The biggest doses I had was 2,5gr pan cyan estero and 1gr bisporus, which were both more potent than 5gr of cubes.. 2gr of subtropicalis also felt around 5gr of cubes, but it was a weak batch.. but with the potent batch of 3gr would be around the 10gr cubes or more and I would like to understand what those doses are about as I can't fantom anything more crazy than what I went through already




Taking extremely high doses is unimaginable to me :uhoh:
I'd like to try higher doses with Semp, but going 0.1 gram higher each time.

Would you build up to such dose? Or just throw yourself in? You'd have a very experienced sitter too I hope?


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Melgo]
    #28313779 - 05/10/23 06:51 AM (9 months, 3 days ago)

Would you like it more if they are just called the fast fruiting vaiety or something Like that?
If so, i'll surely adapt that.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Melgo] * 1
    #28313783 - 05/10/23 06:53 AM (9 months, 3 days ago)

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Would you build up to such dose? Or just throw yourself in? You'd have a very experienced sitter too I hope?




I never had a trip sitter. I just go in there and face it.. but yeah, no way to prepare for total madness... I build up by the gram :triplaunch:.. the alone into the alone (Melgo.. I admit I shit myself every time before I go into it.. I do drink some lemon balm tea and strong ginger tea too keep the nerves and blood pressure down)


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 0t0lerance] * 2
    #28314245 - 05/10/23 12:24 PM (9 months, 3 days ago)

With DMT, I know I was uncomfortable with doing an almost breakthrough dose but then with a higher dose and a breakthrough I was comfortable and enjoyed it much more. So I wonder if increasing a shrooms dose a little at a time would cause a spot where you'd be uncomfortable, causing you to stop increasing dosage but if you went just a little higher you would be in a better place with it. I've done 1.5g dry of ones that are in the middle of fruiting times and I think I can go higher but I'm not sure how much more to go up.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Bigworm] * 2
    #28314312 - 05/10/23 01:08 PM (9 months, 3 days ago)

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With DMT, I know I was uncomfortable with doing an almost breakthrough dose but then with a higher dose and a breakthrough I was comfortable and enjoyed it much more. So I wonder if increasing a shrooms dose a little at a time would cause a spot where you'd be uncomfortable, causing you to stop increasing dosage but if you went just a little higher you would be in a better place with it. I've done 1.5g dry of ones that are in the middle of fruiting times and I think I can go higher but I'm not sure how much more to go up.




I believe that our ego ie sense of self is the contributing factor here. Ego death is horrifying until it actually happens, then it’s just hello god, hello death, I love you. DMT is so great.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Telomere] * 4
    #28314425 - 05/10/23 02:46 PM (9 months, 3 days ago)

Yeah I’ve definitely learned that about psychedelics.

Ime the higher you go on each level the tougher it is until you break through to the next stage and then it relaxes.

Like 2.8 would be way more uncomfortable than a 3.2.


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