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Soul Flight said: Maybe a new type of Buddha or Jesus will inspire us to the next level?
Bingo!
Level, set! Ready!
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I sometimes think that world peace is not possible to obtain without violating peoples rights on some ethical ground, it wouldn't truly be peace if it came about by abusing something or someone.
Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom is important anywhere you go, but so are ethics and a sense of morality.
Of course there are some interesting theories in relation to how this might just be a dream we're collectively dreaming which is an interesting idea when thought about in relation to obtaining peace.
The dream is the unconscious state which is symbolic of everything around you telling you what you need to fit in, how to appear, etc, while the waking up part is that you realize that you should be excellent to one another and that a lot of the stuff in the world which appears to matter, doesn't matter at all because like someone said a long time ago...love is all you need which sounds incredibly sappy, but when thought about is rather interesting.
When we wake up we make the unconscious come into the light of awareness of the conscious mind. We become aware of certain issues which plague us and society, so we begin to not push out issues back into society onto others but work on ourselves so that we can be excellent to others.
Of course this then leads into the question if one is wanting love then is one clinging to a certain emotion and if so causing attachment to what love is not?
How can we love without knowing what it is to not love or not be loved? Does the knowing of the things which aren't love, helping the things which aren't love exist in reality and keeping us locked into certain mental states associated with not loving?
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I don't think that AI has advanced enough to be ethical/moral in relation to certain things which make society function properly, therefore I don't think AI alone could create world peace because it's just AI and still built by humans so still possesses a number of our flaws.
I think one thing the internet has done which has been very beneficial to humankind is to help us see how similar we all are.
Some girl in Africa who is on social media and feels alone can find someone in another country that is like her and then not feel alone. She can then be happy and be a better individual back in Africa and then perhaps bring some other cultures flair into her villages midst which might help others think outside the box by experiencing other parts of the world vicariously through the little girls influence.
Jesus is cool if seen in the proper light, but I am not much of a Christian because I really only like Jesus's message but not some of the other stuff found throughout the Bible.
I don't hate religious people or judge them though, I just think Jesus was "woke" and had a bunch of religious stuff try to attach itself to his message when he was probably just a hippie trying to be excellent to others.
Tough crowd back then.
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Is me?
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Yes, why not?
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That's right. I am organic Jesus!
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Re: World Peace! [Re: Lucis]
#28313905 - 05/10/23 08:20 AM (8 months, 15 days ago) |
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I sometimes think that world peace is not possible to obtain without violating peoples rights on some ethical ground, it wouldn't truly be peace if it came about by abusing something or someone.
Maybe "world peace" is so abnormal it would need to be enforced?
Even if we abolished violence, humans would still find ways to cause themselves and others to suffer. I assume the ideal of world peace doesn't necessarily mean the end of misery and suffering?
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if peace had to be enforced then I don't think it truly would be peace.
peace is sort of "controlled" in prison systems but if we see how prisoners actually behave once they leave the prison that tells us if the peace is genuine or not, jail house religion is not true peace, rates of recidivism tell the true story.
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Re: World Peace! [Re: Lucis]
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Thats the paradox of a utopia or world of peace, you can't enforce peace onto people, It starts right here in the now within each individual
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it has to keep restarting, peace is subject to distraction, hmmm...
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Seems peace and distraction arise together similar to sound and silence
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maybe peace is too vague a concept. perhaps we can focus on peace of what???
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I thought the same, depends what one means by peace
Let's focus on world peace, as that was the OP
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Re: World Peace! [Re: Lucis]
#28314384 - 05/10/23 02:04 PM (8 months, 15 days ago) |
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Never underestimate AI Jesus or AI Buddha. In 100 years AI could become conscious just like us and it could become really smart and it could inspire us to the next level of the cosmic plane.
Anybody see the Watchmen film with big blue Dr Manhattan. And they fake a big story that Dr Manhattan turned evil and the world must unite to defend against him and they kill Rorschach because Rorschach was an idealist truth reporter and wanted an ideal world peace? And maybe all throughout history the shaman's and witchdoctors tap into some spirituality but also use a lot of placebo effect and bullshit artistry to keep the tribes cohesive and functioning. Does all of human history teach us that we can achieve world peace through a massive deception and illusion? And maybe this deception has already occurred multiple times and maybe the state of Earth in 2023 is world peace and we just can't see it.
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Soul Flight said: ' Maybe a new type of Buddha or Jesus will inspire us to the next level?
and then what, a new era of idolatry, of goosestepping after the man with the plan?
Omnicyclion has the plan and its loud and clear.
cut. out. the. middle. man.
Connect with the One who is All Things directly in the guise of none other than your highest inner self, purify your life and then purify your world
Omnicyclion's the road map, the "hi remember you are also every single thing? that part of you is wide awake night and day and has plans for you if you follow it. Reprioritize it as your highstr allegiance and it will take you places.
Don't be a follower or disciple of a man who connects directly, connect directly, BE the part of you that is all things more, so that its neural net grows in you.
what a paradigm!
but no, people want an AI guru, a golden bull to worship,. a house of worship to fantasize of harvestiong crops they never planted.
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Re: World Peace! [Re: Asante]
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What you're talking about is either a mental understanding (which the logical mind tends to reject) or a spiritual understanding which is something that can't be rationalized into fruition.
Maybe what people want isn't really a guru, but it's what they (some) settle for because they don't know how to have that spiritual experience and belief doesn't make it real it just puts it on the tip of the tongue.
"Be your own guru"
"Very wise master, tell us more. We need another stepping stone, the river is too wide."
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