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Re: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for President? [Re: mushboy]
    #28394758 - 07/13/23 08:24 PM (6 months, 12 days ago)

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hes a joke.

gender identity issues is a mental health crises and traveling to russia to beat xanax addiction isnt addiction its being brave.

full tard. however other people you mentioned are indeed way more dangerous.



Peterson also knows his value is in lending a veneer of respectability and legitimacy too all those other people.  Being intelligent, he is aware of this, and uses it for profit in the most cynical of ways.  I believe he is actually quite a bit worse than some of the others on that list due to this fact.


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Re: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for President? [Re: koods]
    #28394837 - 07/13/23 10:08 PM (6 months, 12 days ago)

Thank you koods I was unaware of that.  Still, Peterson made millions BEFORE signing up to the daily wire and spoke about it as a means of broadening not only his message but as another anchor against the cancelling folk for having a difference of opinion.
    He wrote 3 books before joining daily wire, toured the world multiple times and, whether you like his scientifically backed “opinions” or not, he actually has done a tremendous amount of good for hundreds of thousands of people. His twelve rules for life was given to me by a friend after I wound up in hospital for a night, having made plans to end my own stay here.

And you know what, simplistic though they are as “axioms” around which you can build a life, his words really helped.

Anyway thanks again. Moving right along…


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Re: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for President? [Re: Ice9]
    #28394922 - 07/14/23 01:36 AM (6 months, 11 days ago)

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hes a joke.

gender identity issues is a mental health crises and traveling to russia to beat xanax addiction isnt addiction its being brave.

full tard. however other people you mentioned are indeed way more dangerous.



Peterson also knows his value is in lending a veneer of respectability and legitimacy too all those other people.  Being intelligent, he is aware of this, and uses it for profit in the most cynical of ways.  I believe he is actually quite a bit worse than some of the others on that list due to this fact.



Ben shapiro is in the same camp as far as intelligent allure and we both know why hes worse then peterson.

I'd say your average Peterson fan boy really is just trying to better themselves more then tucker carlson or Andrew tate fans by a mile. The problem is straight up insidious lies vs someone who has radical thinking to us because we so vehemently disagree with him but I don't think he's worse then the list I gave.


And to milleresqe I'm glad his writings help you and others different strokes for different folks but I would caution you that believing everything he says and conforming your ideals to his because he makes sense on some things you like is dangerous to critical thinking. You can look up to him and still disagree with some of his points he makes.

I feel like that's a huge problem in modern US politics is average conservatives start to idolize these political figures and because they love them so much and think they're the answer to everyone's problems or just saying things you agree with you start to defend the things they say that you don't really agree with.

Most democrats I know don't idolize people like Biden or Sam seder, Sam Harris, David pakman,TYT etc and I think that's how it should be you can support them but also decide argument by argument whether they're right or wrong about a particular topic.

I had a conversation with my conservative dad (who's 73 and has memory issues) about hunter Biden and I said yeah if they have the evidence and conservatives that investigate find actual evidence you can have him tried on,if he's guilty ill 100% be on board that he should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

Then I said it's like the evidence in the zelenski tapes, that the defense budget for Ukraine actually was being withheld in exchange for opening an investigation into the Bidens and the day the call was leaked trump paid the Ukrainians the promised defense budget there's actual government records of how much we withheld how much we paid, when we paid it.

My dad says that never happened.

Me: That's the reason he was impeached the second time
Him: It's a witch hunt his voice on that tape is a deep fake.

Me: White house has official records and transcripts plus he said it was him on the tape.
Him: Well the Bidens did this this and this

*faceplam* okay dad you're right and we stopped talking about it

We agree on alot of things but as soon as I bring up Trump even if the sane thing applied to what we agreed on he does everything in his power to stand up for Trump, almost as if he himself was Trump. Makes it impossible to have a good faith debate


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Re: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for President? [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #28394931 - 07/14/23 02:24 AM (6 months, 11 days ago)

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You shoulda learnt how to spell "learned."




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Re: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for President? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #28394959 - 07/14/23 03:32 AM (6 months, 11 days ago)

I think RFK JR has given up on the sane half of his platform, the half that was quite good and progressive, the environmental record and Kennedy legacy democratic values. It was a slim chance but still possible with Biden's health risks, and all other major current options from either party looking horrendous.

But RFK JR has switched gears entirely making him 100% unelectable. It doesn't look like campaign manager Dennis Kucinich can control him. RFK JR has reverted to full blast conspiracy, talking about prosecuting Fauci, spouting absurd statistics about 3rd world countries having 200 times less child covid deaths because they gave them HCQ and ivermectin (dewormer) drugs.  He says the 1918 flu epidemic and lyme disease were caused by vaccines and that HIV does not cause AIDS. He hosted a rountable a few weeks ago with covid/anti-vax theorists more extreme even than him. The funniest of the featured nut-job panelists was Dr Sherri Tenpenny, who previously testified to the Ohio legislature that vaccines magnetize people and knives and forks stick to their bodies.

I don't pretend to understand RFK JRs motives. A rational person would think he's now just trying to get more TV appearances and sell more books. Maybe he's so crazy that he really thinks this is going to get him elected President and he can put Fauci in prison.


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Re: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for President? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #28395003 - 07/14/23 05:22 AM (6 months, 11 days ago)

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I think RFK JR has given up on the sane half of his platform, the half that was quite good and progressive, the environmental record and Kennedy legacy democratic values.




It's audience capture now that he's getting some fame, you can see it from political "alt media" figures like tim pool, tulsi gabbard candace owens, dore, peterson, Rogan, russel brand etc. Many right wingers are so desperate to have someone that comes across as intelligent or likeable regurgitate the dumb shit they believe, that the second someone "on the left" starts making minor criticisms of the left, crazy right wingers form a thousand mile long line to deep throat them. Their clips go viral all throughout right wing social media, the views/donations skyrocket, and all of a sudden 99% of their platforms turns into right wing nuttery because it's insanely lucrative. RFK barely had one foot in reality to begin with anyway though


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Re: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for President? [Re: koods]
    #28395009 - 07/14/23 05:34 AM (6 months, 11 days ago)

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The Daily Wire’s start up funding was provided by fracking company magnates: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_and_Farris_Wilks




Yeah he's a mouthpiece for a self-described conservative propaganda network whose own website says they are biased and their goal is to change the world to fit their world view.

I'm sure it's a coincidence when the second a failed psychologist signs on to a propaganda network funded by billionaire frackers he starts endlessly ranting about how climate change couldn't possibly be man made

I think the trump years taught right wingers that there's no point wasting the money or time trying hide the shady things they do, because none of their fans care and they'll gobble it up regardless. At least left wingers have the decency to hide all the bad things they do on Hunters laptop


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Re: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for President? [Re: feevers]
    #28395039 - 07/14/23 06:23 AM (6 months, 11 days ago)

The last poll I saw had RFK JR's favorability at 40% among Republicans, 30% from independents, and 20% with Democrats. Expecting the last two to decline, now that he's back to emphasizing fringe beliefs.


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Re: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for President? [Re: feevers]
    #28395041 - 07/14/23 06:29 AM (6 months, 11 days ago)

The real issue with Peterson is that the dude talks like he's an expert on a lot of things when he actually isn't. He's a great public speaker and writer, and that means a lot of people go for his information. Fair enough, there is probably a lot of merit in there, but he isn't infallible or even really doing much other than making people feel good about what they want to feel good about. Additionally, a lot of what people credit him for is not information he created. The Big 5 traits model for example wasn't him. Yet, lots think it was. Finally, there are way more influential academics out there. Harvey for example. And Harvey doesn't have to worry about who people fuck in their spare time, or what people want to be called, he actually talks about real issues.

As for RFK jr., every piece of information I have seen from as of late is total crazy. The dude doesn't stand a chance.


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Re: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for President? [Re: christopera]
    #28395055 - 07/14/23 06:57 AM (6 months, 11 days ago)

With Peterson et al, my main issue is he lends credence to the "manosphere" types.  Those assholes target children with their messaging.  If it was designed for adult consumption and inadvertently reached kids, meh :shrug:  The message is designed from the ground up for indoctrination of children.  Lending those types any sort of legitimacy is disgusting.  If they had co-opted his message he could denounce them, instead he actively markets himself to these people.  Gross.


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Re: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for President? [Re: christopera]
    #28395057 - 07/14/23 06:58 AM (6 months, 11 days ago)

Peterson has a PhD in clinical psychology, so not exactly a medical doctor but very close.

I have a real aversion to doctors self-promoting public careers. All of them except Dr Spock and
Dr Ruth.


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Re: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for President? [Re: christopera]
    #28395098 - 07/14/23 07:49 AM (6 months, 11 days ago)

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The real issue with Peterson is that the dude talks like he's an expert on a lot of things when he actually isn't. He's a great public speaker and writer, and that means a lot of people go for his information. Fair enough, there is probably a lot of merit in there, but he isn't infallible or even really doing much other than making people feel good about what they want to feel good about. Additionally, a lot of what people credit him for is not information he created. The Big 5 traits model for example wasn't him. Yet, lots think it was. Finally, there are way more influential academics out there. Harvey for example. And Harvey doesn't have to worry about who people fuck in their spare time, or what people want to be called, he actually talks about real issues.

As for RFK jr., every piece of information I have seen from as of late is total crazy. The dude doesn't stand a chance.




Peterson is a very weird dude. I don’t think he’s all there, mentally and there are times when he is clearly under the influence of drugs when he posts


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Re: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for President? [Re: koods]
    #28395144 - 07/14/23 08:33 AM (6 months, 11 days ago)

Hes got carnivore dementia or something. Ive listened to his podcasts theres somethkng wrong with the dudes cognition


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Re: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for President? [Re: trees]
    #28395194 - 07/14/23 09:15 AM (6 months, 11 days ago)

When he is on, he is pretty coherent. It does seem like he might have a drug issue. But, uhhh, who are we to judge? This forum is a valuable resource for doing... drugs.


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Re: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for President? [Re: christopera]
    #28395258 - 07/14/23 10:43 AM (6 months, 11 days ago)

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When he is on, he is pretty coherent. It does seem like he might have a drug issue. But, uhhh, who are we to judge? This forum is a valuable resource for doing... drugs.




I'm not sure if you know his history but a couple years ago he was so crippled by years of benzo abuse that he needed to go to some facility in Russia to be put into a medically induced coma for a week to safely detox.

His brain is cooked

As for being a good writer, I agree. Here's one of my favorite JP writings-

"I dreamed I saw my maternal grandmother sitting by the bank of a swimming pool, that was also a river. In real life, she had been a victim of Alzheimer’s disease, and had regressed, before her death, to a semi-conscious state. In the dream, as well, she had lost her capacity for self-control. Her genital region was exposed, dimly; it had the appearance of a thick mat of hair. She was stroking herself, absent-mindedly. She walked over to me, with a handful of pubic hair, compacted into something resembling a large artist’s paint-brush. She pushed this at my face. I raised my arm, several times, to deflect her hand; finally, unwilling to hurt her, or interfere with her any farther, I let her have her way. She stroked my face with the brush, gently, and said, like a child, “isn’t it soft?” I looked at her ruined face and said, “yes, Grandma, it’s soft."


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Re: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for President? [Re: feevers]
    #28395373 - 07/14/23 12:38 PM (6 months, 11 days ago)

lmao

I'm certainly no fan of the guy, and I think his pension for enabling red pill morons is clearly a net loss for society. That said, who hasn't had a grandma pussy fetish?

Come to think of it, I don't think I have...


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Re: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for President? [Re: christopera]
    #28395451 - 07/14/23 02:01 PM (6 months, 11 days ago)

And this is why when people talk about how cool their dreams are I'm always like:
:goodluckwiththat:


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Re: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for President? [Re: feevers]
    #28396011 - 07/15/23 05:52 AM (6 months, 10 days ago)

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His brain is cooked





i abused xanax for maybe six months on and off with the last time being a bender. that shit gave me brain damage. i cant imagine abusing a benzo for years like that.

all the while hes telling the kids to clean their rooms:oldman: hey teacher! leave those kids alone!

i enjoyed the chaos of my messy little boy room. i could always find my toys and shit:shrug:


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Re: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for President? [Re: mushboy]
    #28396112 - 07/15/23 08:24 AM (6 months, 10 days ago)

Either this is a larp or he’s ridiculously feeble in mind



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Re: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for President? [Re: koods]
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