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Choosing what to subsidize is social, while you print the money. I'm sure some one else probably has a more informed view, but I doubt many. These concepts came before the some what modern currency system. I say somewhat because it's too weak for comfort. Someone who actually has a good understanding of economy and not just the general economist might have a better understanding of what shit is. Some term(coinage) for the manipulated economy. Unfortunately thinking negatively about it has much more consequences cause it's rather farther from commodity currency.
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subsidies arent social... thats the wrong word.
printing money is done to hedge inflation, it can work.
subsidies are put in place because we think we need something, which people wouldnt choose to do at market value.
two examples.
corn, we think we need corn to insure against famine, so we subsidize it, because the price per acre without the extra money isnt that good.
and recycling, we subsidize recycling becuase in the 70s we thought it would be good, and no companies would do it at the prices that were available so we subsidized it and now its a thriving industry (bad)
the its good that we have corn, is that we dod infact need it and we need a small surplus of it incase of hard times. the reason that recycling is bad is because it involves having trucks drive really really slowly all over town polluting the air. and it would have been better to just disincentivise using single use plastics... but hindsight is 20/20 the reason that the economy is bad, is 2 factor. for 4 years trump threatened the fed to lower rates to irresponcible levels, which transfered alot of wealth from the poor to the rich. it expanded both the lower and upper classes. if those expanded at the same person to person numbers it may have been fine but thats not what happened. it created 100 new billionaires but thousands of new lower class people with unmet needs... homeless everywhere.
the way they chose to fix this was to raise rates VERY high, which means that rich people do not borrow, and subsequently prices go higher until it balances out and undoes some of that growth... over time this redistributes the money downward... eventually less and less needy people.
the problem is that it isnt as easy as all that, and the very wealthy have ways to keep goinng in rough times. right now thats tax advantaged purchasing in real estate, dong 1031 exchanges... and that is keeping the market going right now.
you should always be aware of when things are VERY good or VERY bad things are going wrong... what you want is a slow steady growth across all sectors. somehow since 1980 the democrats have gotten that right and the republicans have gotten it wrong and i dont understand why, the math isnt super hard. but each republican president has lowered taxes on the rich and interest rates, which allows the rich to invest using borrowed money, and make a ton in stocks and real estate... and then we have a deficit spending and poor people starving and the democrats come in and balance it out over and over since 1980. if you have enough of a foot hold to buy rental property when rates are low you can be really financially secue in almost every market, but many people just buy toys when money is cheap and that hurts when its expencive
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Re: mixed economy [Re: rxb]
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Social for socialism no social as in socialism. I can understand someone wanting to associate social with like zuckerberg. deep down though social is what it's suppose to be, for the people. Or did you mean something else over my head? demand and supply are capitalism not the other way around. taxation and the redistribution of wealth generated by private and public organizations is social. Where the extreme overbearing closer to dictatorship on one scale would be communism where it goes for an even more distributed higher taxed system less reward imagined and incentive by westerners.
I feel like if your people are church dogma you need capitalism. If your people are pirates you need communism.
supply and demand is totalitarian, think about it
printing currency allows government to manipulate industry more which can be used positively or negatively. The idea of government using it's manipulation to benefit the majority doesn't feel capitalistic to me. Than again how much capitalism and communism there are and how it equates to government is in-cohesive
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burntkitty said: Social for socialism no social as in socialism. I can understand someone wanting to associate social with like zuckerberg. deep down though social is what it's suppose to be for the people. Or did you mean something else over my head?
well social means relating to society.
and socialism means that the people who are working, should control and profit from their work... no matter how many times the term is misused in media. it is the idea that those working in the factory should reap the benefits of their labors as opposed to a arbitrary factory owner who doesnt understand the workload. socialism was just a movement against the more toxic sides of capitalism where the workforce gets abused. the idea was then expanded to governments where by, everything was meant to benefit the people evenly, however in practice it seems to fall apart because the decisionmakers have certain advantages and become a ruling class, typically a dictator.
im not exactly sure how that relates to subsidies, except that subsidies can be good or bad like i gave examples of.
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#28304409 - 05/03/23 05:00 AM (8 months, 21 days ago) |
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printing money is done to hedge inflation, it can work.
Printing money IS inflation.
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printing money is done to hedge inflation, it can work.
Printing money IS inflation.
technically kinda it would be if it worked the way you think it does where 1 dollar is a representation of 1 thing... but thats not how it works.
it should work like that but it doesnt. loans make money and they print money to account for the loans. a dollar is a representation of a loan... not a unit of currency even tho thats how we treat it
if it worked like you must think and a dollar represented a THING... then printing a new dollar would make all other dollars cost less and to get anyTHING you´d need more dollars printing more would be pointless.
but by adding supply you are simply issuing new loans or available loans and thus it isnt a 1:1 ratio and printing the right way actualy lowers inflation
monitary supply IS hard math.
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Re: mixed economy [Re: rxb]
#28304436 - 05/03/23 05:23 AM (8 months, 21 days ago) |
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easiest way i can think to picture it, is owning a house.
you get a loan, you buy a house. 100k loan.
housing market goes up, you still owe 100k, so each of those dollars you ¨spent"virtually by getting the loan is worth way more. or it cost way less, depending on how you want to look at it. either way because that economy changed you are now willing to pay more dollars for the same item ... thats inflation.
since dollars are debt... to balance that inflation you would take out more debt.
thus printing money CAN in the right ways be a hedge against inflation... when done RIGHT...
the system is held together with spit and twine ... Robert Kiyosaki explains this stuff really well imo
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printing money isn't inflation, over printing money causes inflation when the market catches up(that's the market realizing their product/service has depreciated unfairly or their bottom line). Minimum wage going up in blue cities has made progress but it's still slave wages. Everyday the banks they come together and they evaluate the price of everything, it's not satoshi dictating the price of btc(only when one was buying pizza). I think nasdaq got more of an opinion on your everything not nasdaq too. Everything gets manipulated though I'm sure someone offloading their dirty coin for cheap and they get sellers on legit markets like localbitcoin to sell lower cause no one is buying from them.
Under printing slows the economy down and raises the currencies perceived value compared to everyone elses but it can also destroy the system.
For sure a scam and for sure you will lose everything you ever built on drugs. When ever someone mentions cain you will turn into a blind rage Im shitting myself
Were talking BTC not beanie babies. The problem is elon made it the opposite of green and is wasting the computation reward on relatively nothing. The reptilians from siruis b weren't looking for that. The demand compared to the supply are low.
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frankly its not as simple as ANY of this, because there are situations where
over OR under printing can cause inflation
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Re: mixed economy [Re: rxb]
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crypto coins are a scam. you can make money on them, but they are for sure a scam.
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Re: mixed economy [Re: rxb]
#28307682 - 05/05/23 11:07 AM (8 months, 19 days ago) |
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Having things people need being worthless without the mob. such is the way of communism.
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burntkitty said: Having things people need being worthless without the mob. such is the way of communism.
how is that related to communism... communism is like sharing economies where like a whole group of people live on a farm and make tofu, and everyone profits together. china for example isnt communist dispite the ruling party being the chinese comunist party... its a dictatorship with heavy levels of social programs, which does a good job of keeping people fed, but ultimately is horribly restrictive. communism by definition couldnt actually be restrictive because in communism there is no ruling class to restrict or enforce, which is one of the halmarks of the chinese, and soviet systems which didnt and couldnt work... they were never communist at all...they had a ruling class.
crypto being worthless is just because ultimately its a scam.
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Crypto is a scam the same way money is a scam.
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Kryptos said: Crypto is a scam the same way money is a scam.
you are not wrong... but they are both confidence scams... and there is less confidence in crypto.
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Re: mixed economy [Re: rxb]
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free trade is what it's been through out history and is rather what capitalism is. Find the last person selling rope and hang them by it, was preached by karl marx. The practice of you not owning the things you sell that the gang is the owner, is communism. The actual practice happening today in the usa is part of the mixed economy. Marketing should be a broad practice but breaks down to shark tank(oligarchy like) and gofundho(bad socialism).
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someone has given you bad info.
im neither a socialist or a communist, but if you want to talk on the subject you should become better informed as to what the words actually mean.
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Re: mixed economy [Re: rxb]
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free trade is what it's been through out history and is rather what capitalism is. Find the last person selling rope and hang them by it, was preached by karl marx
first of all its not even a real quote.
second the quote was not of marx.
third... you misquoted the FAKE QUOTE.
wow.
first appeared in 1955...some 20 years after the person it was attributed to was dead.
gotta be careful about watching the propaganda...it will for sure rot your brain.
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you seeing W's on ass cheeks? avoiding the propaganda is much easier said than done. I didn't throw quotes or cite shit, take it with a grain of salt. Assume it's a paraphrase if it's from a different language. I could definitely be wrong on it. The internet is full of shit. I concede I might also be wrong on my quote of "Having things people need being worthless without the mob. such is the way of communism.". Might not be communism. Really sounds more like totalitarianism, thinking about it now.
I have a hard time believing in anything but the quotes I hold more weight to.
Printing money could hedge inflation. If it went to the bottom. Seems like this 2 party system is neither about the people though.
I think they passed the afford health care just cause of how morally unethical it is to lock people up for opiates when they can't afford a doctor.
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free trade is what it's been through out history and is rather what capitalism is
It was actually the slave trade throughout most of history that drove the economy . Not saying you're wrong , just don't go too far back .
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there is no good system of government.
and since we arent even allowed to try new things, you gets what you gets and you like it.
in capitalism the poor are subjected to the whims of the rich. which is why farming is declining so rapidly and more and more of our food is imported. the rich can afford to game the system, which draws money out of the lower class into the upper class. the more rich bezos gets the more poor people cant pay their bills... he isnt evil, he is just winning at a game where the people losing are actually dying.
social programs try to alleviate some of that by adding systems to help those people on the bottom be able to function... food stamps and free bus fair, actually keep poor people from stealing and robbing people who have more... because what are they going to do starve to death?... social programs can help to a degree. if people have basic needs met then they are less likely to break the law in order to survive...somepeople break the law anyhow...
communism could work right up until the first person who takes from the system but doesnt give back to it. so, that fails quickly, unless there is some motivation to not be greedy, and many people believe that is authoritanianism... which you see in soviet systems and in the chinese system. unfortunately it becomes a dictatorship very very quickly and is only calling itself communism ...
greed seems to be the common factor in the downfall of society.
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No there is, it's called democracy. We don't really got it is the thing, I think you mean economics any hows. Democracy and socialism go together better than what we got. No one seems to be alarmed at a 2 party system from within. It's like bat shit has no meaning in here.
I took macro economics at my local college instead of my university cause it was cheaper and I could. I had this indian professor who the white kids couldn't understand, but he believed he knew his shit too.
They don't give out housing though like there's a job fulfillment shortage. It's fucking bs. I'm a software automation expert, but there's no reason I couldn't be a robotics automation expert.
The gov is bs the way ron paul got derailed in 2012 or bernie in 2016 or how yang dropped out of 2020.
I'm going to make a data table with people's names, geomapped addresses, and their vote. targeted marketing only sucks in hell and these bastards already know who you pretend vote for.
I don't know how banking and insurance is private industry, I mean I do but you know
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we dont really have democracy.
true democracy is anarchy anyhow.
democracy usually co-habitates with capitalism which is good for the rich and bad for the poor.
infact because the rich have so much power in this country, i can buy real estate for free... and make money from it for free...i can pay no taxes on it what so ever.... as long as i only make income from refinance and i never owe more in taxes from income than i pay interest on the loans...
not saying its the fastest living, but its tax free. can do it much faster if you dont MIND paying the taxes, and with depreciation and upkeep those taxes can be dropped to almost nothing.
some working joe rents from me, not only would he pay down the mortgage,but because he is renting, i can assess the property based on the cap rate for a business loan... meaning now its worth more because it generates income.
i can draw down that increased equity as a loan... all of the interest payments are tax deductable so now i can figure out how much income that would offset and i can be sure i collect just enough income from that so that i pay no tax at all... the loan money i collect would be in my pocket tax free mind you.
i could then as a rich person collecting rents give myself enough additional income to fill a 401k and a roth ira... with employee matching mind you ... and still im growing my net worth and still im paying no tax.
now i can roll the 401k into the roth .. and whatsever in the roth can be used to fund more realestate deals... which as long as the money stays in the roth acct, grows tax free and exponentially.
yadda yadda yadda on and on...
now try doing any of that as a 7-11 employee.
capitalism fails the poor, and allows advantages for the rich.
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Democracy will lead to anarchy when we have evolved to not needing government. might not be this century. Journalism should be well funded to lead an educated voter system. Democracy without representation cause it's antiquated and the people are informed and the issues are actually transparent.
Your really selling me on the socialism. I have no gayness toward real estate and it sounds like a pen pushers wet dream. The USA has a unique position on land though.
So what do you think needs to be done to make a strong middle class and get rid of the lower class?
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oh i dont think there IS a good answer.
when i say true democracy is anarchy, i mean that, what we have in the US is a representative republic, where theres a string of elected officials that we only get to vote for a select few of... that make choices.
who gets in is subject to the whims of 2 parties that make all the decisions for us...
if we makes ones it doesnt like the parties arent really required to put in what the people ask for...in 2016 bernie sandars won every county in west va... and they simply said hillary did, and he never went against it.
democracy would be when you vote on issues YOURSELF... im for a proxy democracy where i can give my proxy to someone, say enlil..and however he votes i vote as well, unless i remove my proxy and vote individually.
it would be a complicated system to setup, but would remove a ton of corruption and grift.
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Don't go too far back? It's still the slave trade. marriage just legitimized it. Those women are with those man on their own accord, I just couldn't believe. There was plenty of tyranny gov over one's promoting capitalism. There was anarchy and free trade way more though.
really don't know any civilization ran on slave trade, besides the USA for a while. Don't really know how long that conquistador shit lasted
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Will they let people starve to death? Maybe does it really sound far fetched?
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people litterally ARE starving to death in the US.
its not abstract.
whats more common is food insecurity, and even our military inlisted families are food insecure at this point.
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Re: mixed economy [Re: rxb]
#28313443 - 05/09/23 09:44 PM (8 months, 15 days ago) |
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people litterally ARE starving to death in the US.
To be fair letting someone die of starvation in the US is considered neglect. If you had severe enough malnutrition a hospital would have to take you in and then of course you'd have a mountain of debt because of it but you'd be alive.
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Re: mixed economy [Re: Kizzle]
#28313479 - 05/09/23 10:18 PM (8 months, 15 days ago) |
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American Starvation Statistics 13,690 people starve to death in America per year. 10.2% (13.5M) of households are food insecure in the US. 33.8M people experience food insecurity every day. 5.0M children experience food insecurity every day. 15.8% of children in the US live in households that are food insecure. 1 in 6 children may not know where their next meal is coming from. 53M people are on food programs (i.e., SNAP, WIC, NSLP, etc.). 4.2M Americans used SNAP (food stamps) benefits last year. 20% of food-insecure families are not eligible for government assistance. 2.8M low-income Americans said they’ve gone without food for at least one day in the last year. 22.5% of Black households have food insecurity. 18.5% of Latinx/Hispanic households have food insecurity. 7.9% of White households experience food insecurity. 6.5 million kids live in households that cannot consistently afford enough food. 18.2% of seniors living alone in the US are food insecure. 6M senior citizens in the US are food insecure. 1 out of 6 Americans lived in a household that was food insecure. 8.4% of the US population experienced food insecurity last year. 8M Americans are at risk of hunger due to poverty and lack of access to food.
there is a figure out there i forget what the number is, i saw it on rogan, and it may have been on a russel brand episode, but its something on the order of 30 billion dollars was added to the budget under the trump admin, that went toward new bombs that we just detonate each year in the ocean, so that we can put new ones on the budget. and they pointed out that it was an estimated 1 billion needed to end all homelessness, so why cant we just drop 29 billion worth of bombs in the ocean instead of 30 billion worth.
i feel very similarly about hunger, especially hungry kids.
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Re: mixed economy [Re: rxb]
#28330853 - 05/23/23 07:06 AM (8 months, 1 day ago) |
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Well, now the politics have fixed that, by making adjustable loans. This means that big banks and politicians are sucking each other's cocks.
So the only ones who lose are the citizens, so the politicians and big banks are the winners. It all about the money.
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starfire_xes said: So the only ones who lose are the citizens, so the politicians and big banks are the winners. It all about the money.
you make it sound like this is a new concept. kind of the norm throughout recorded history.
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Re: mixed economy [Re: mushboy]
#28330865 - 05/23/23 07:26 AM (8 months, 1 day ago) |
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You are right, mushbrains.
Then the requirment is finding who is the scapegoat.
That is the others political side.
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historically the scapegoat has been minorities and jews. or women.
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Re: mixed economy [Re: rxb]
#28330956 - 05/23/23 08:57 AM (8 months, 1 day ago) |
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Other studies reveal about 100 people in America die annually of malnutrition, and that's usually due to mental illness - not lack of access to free food.
The US Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) funding is over 80 billion a year.
The California state government spends over 2 billion a year feeding kids in schools.
The US obesity rate is about 43%. Is all the free food in America making people fat?
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If you ever stood at a bus stop and saw the poor kids come through and the junk they ate you'd change your tune. It's that poor families can't afford better foods, especially access to it. My neighborhood grocery store, of which is one of thirteen locations, has a grossly different profile of available food than richer stores within a mile or two of mine. It's wild. The richer store has three isles of produce, the poor one has two isles of soda and one isle of produce.
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People eat crap food because they can't find or afford healthy food. I don't buy that theory. I know that belief has become very popular.
I see the types of food people using SNAP benefits buy. The often choose crap - in grocery stores that are full of healthy food. I've observed this for many years. I don't care some grocery stores have one aisle of healthy food and others have two aisles of healthy food and others three aisles of healthy food. Everyone decides what to put in their piehole.
We must discourage and abandon this type of victimization charade.
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People generally buy the crap they were fed as kids. That's why food advertising pretty much exclusively targets the under 30 crowd.
Spend your entire life eating canned corn and the real stuff on the cob starts to taste weird.
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Re: mixed economy [Re: Kryptos]
#28331005 - 05/23/23 09:40 AM (8 months, 1 day ago) |
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I agree. And if my Dad was a drunk or a drug abuser, there's a significant chance I'll grow up to engage in the same behaviors.
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Children don't get to pick, and when you can't afford the expensive grocery store you end up with lower quality foods. It's just that simple. It's not a matter of picking whatever you want, it's a matter of having food at all.
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Local food bank I volunteer for routinely gets donations from nearby stores, and they donate entire pallets of pop tarts and slim jims. It's all junk--graham crackers, those little bullshit cracker and "cheese" things they give to kids in US schools, maybe some canned soup that has a week's worth of salt in a can.
I almost feel bad giving this shit to kids because the people making the donations know exactly what they are doing. On the other hand, calories without nutrients is better than no calories and no nutrients.
They won't even give us cans of beans. But slim jims? Have enough to expand that ass over 400lb.
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Re: mixed economy [Re: Kryptos]
#28331070 - 05/23/23 10:39 AM (8 months, 1 day ago) |
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According to the USDA, soda is one of the most commonly purchased items by recipients of government SNAP benefits.
That the USDA funds soda purchases is amazing.
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If they stopped allowing soda on SNAP then the US farming industry would collapse.
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Re: mixed economy [Re: Kryptos]
#28331174 - 05/23/23 12:14 PM (8 months, 1 day ago) |
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mmm corn.
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starfire_xes said: Well, now the politics have fixed that, by making adjustable loans. This means that big banks and politicians are sucking each other's cocks.
So the only ones who lose are the citizens, so the politicians and big banks are the winners. It all about the money.
you sure do know how to make a boy wana slit his wrists... are you trying out to write morrisey lyrics? or radiohead maybe.
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Edited by rxb (05/31/23 04:13 PM)
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