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Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI * 1
    #28303751 - 05/02/23 04:26 PM (8 months, 22 days ago)

Well, lately I am watching news all the time about IA its dangers and may be we finish in a war for survival against Skynet like in Terminator.

But I have always thought it is a great loss that Kurt Cobain passed away. It is pretty obvious he suffered a deep depression.

I am a dimwit in many fields. However I am a blockhead specially about computers.

I wonder if someone more skilled in such field can use the whole discography of Nirvana to generate new songs.


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: Capitan_Pacheco] * 4
    #28303767 - 05/02/23 04:35 PM (8 months, 22 days ago)

Sure they could. But should they?
I'm not into anything that Courtenay would have to approve. :tongue:
I think I would find it painful to see his soul cut, pasted and re-engineered.
Another musician, maybe...


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: thirdeyewild] * 2
    #28303773 - 05/02/23 04:39 PM (8 months, 22 days ago)

I think they already did this. Not with video yet, but there are a few AI generated nirvana songs floating around the net.


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: jack_straw2208] * 2
    #28303806 - 05/02/23 05:14 PM (8 months, 22 days ago)

I think Kurt Cobain would be pretty pissed off.


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: DreamStoneLFOD] * 2
    #28304197 - 05/02/23 09:48 PM (8 months, 22 days ago)

He'd probably write a song about it that would involve selling all his furniture.


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: Capitan_Pacheco] * 2
    #28304291 - 05/03/23 12:11 AM (8 months, 22 days ago)

Kurt made some interesting art too.


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: DreamStoneLFOD]
    #28624887 - 01/17/24 05:07 PM (10 days, 22 hours ago)



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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: Capitan_Pacheco] * 2
    #28625058 - 01/17/24 06:15 PM (10 days, 20 hours ago)

I think Cobain killed himself because he was too sensitive.  He couldn't handle all that sensitivity.

In the West, men are still not encouraged to be sensitive.  Which is a shame because a lot of dudes are suffering silently due to attitude like this.  Cobain was just a more extreme example.


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: thirdeyewild] * 1
    #28625089 - 01/17/24 06:45 PM (10 days, 20 hours ago)

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Sure they could. But should they?
I'm not into anything that Courtenay would have to approve. :tongue:
I think I would find it painful to see his soul cut, pasted and re-engineered.
Another musician, maybe...




This would literally be everything he stood against. It would be a travesty.
It would make me upset as a fan.

It would almost be like desecrating his memory.
Or stomping on his grave.


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: Capitan_Pacheco]
    #28625260 - 01/17/24 08:24 PM (10 days, 18 hours ago)

Agreed


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: Capitan_Pacheco]
    #28626721 - 01/19/24 04:16 AM (9 days, 10 hours ago)

Theres actually a lot of AI Voice singing websites out there. I was just searching them a few days ago. Most of the AI models are of famous singers. Some websites you can even make your own custom AI models.

There was one website that had a Linkin Park AI model. RIP Chad. He was a real one too :sadyes:


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: Capitan_Pacheco]
    #28626783 - 01/19/24 06:38 AM (9 days, 8 hours ago)

Kurts daughter is in control of all his music rights. Ect. She gets a check for a couple mil every 3 months.

Im not bothered by the AI songs. Some are very creative.


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: thirdeyewild]
    #28626938 - 01/19/24 09:39 AM (9 days, 5 hours ago)

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Joh.Ke said:
I think Cobain killed himself





At 27? :shrug:

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thirdeyewild said:
I think I would find it painful to see his soul cut, pasted and re-engineered.





Where live people are credited on the album cover, as writers and musicians, say that an AI was used.

Everyone can choose whether to participate under informed consent.


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: durian_2008] * 3
    #28628251 - 01/20/24 08:19 AM (8 days, 6 hours ago)

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I think Cobain killed himself





At 27? :shrug:






Why so incredulous?

Anyways, what would an AI created Nirvana song have to offer me that I couldn't get from listening to In Utero again? Why would I listen to a cheap imitation when I can listen to the music they actually recorded.

I don't really have a problem with the idea of listening to ambient, abstract stuff created by AI but a knockoff of an existing band comprised of living humans expressing complex emotions seems like a fools errand.


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: Capitan_Pacheco]
    #28628293 - 01/20/24 08:58 AM (8 days, 6 hours ago)

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Well, lately I am watching news all the time about IA its dangers and may be we finish in a war for survival against Skynet like in Terminator.

But I have always thought it is a great loss that Kurt Cobain passed away. It is pretty obvious he suffered a deep depression.

I am a dimwit in many fields. However I am a blockhead specially about computers.

I wonder if someone more skilled in such field can use the whole discography of Nirvana to generate new songs.




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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: KevinDontWave]
    #28629273 - 01/20/24 10:13 PM (7 days, 16 hours ago)

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Joh.Ke said:
I think Cobain killed himself




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durian_2008 said:
At 27? :shrug:




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KevinDontWave said:
Why so incredulous?





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club

idk what kind of deal is made, in particular, but am skeptical that these people are free agents.


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: durian_2008]
    #28629277 - 01/20/24 10:22 PM (7 days, 16 hours ago)






Yeah he looks maniacally depressed and suicidal.  Mmm-hm.


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: durian_2008]
    #28629675 - 01/21/24 10:05 AM (7 days, 5 hours ago)

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I think Cobain killed himself




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durian_2008 said:
At 27? :shrug:




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KevinDontWave said:
Why so incredulous?





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club

idk what kind of deal is made, in particular, but am skeptical that these people are free agents.





Obviously you're skeptical but why?

You don't have to share your reasons, I'm just curious.


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #28629690 - 01/21/24 10:19 AM (7 days, 4 hours ago)

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Yeah he looks maniacally depressed and suicidal.  Mmm-hm.




What do you mean by "maniacally" depressed?

Most suicides sneak up on the survivors. If you're really open and honest about your suicidal intentions people will swoop in and do something.

And again, he overdosed in Rome around that time. Who knows if it was accidental or intentional but I don't think either scenario suggests he was doing well mentally or physically. I can't believe people are trying to frame him as some happy go lucky carefree dude that would never ever kill himself.


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: Capitan_Pacheco] * 1
    #28629739 - 01/21/24 11:09 AM (7 days, 3 hours ago)

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Well, lately I am watching news all the time about IA its dangers and may be we finish in a war for survival against Skynet like in Terminator.

But I have always thought it is a great loss that Kurt Cobain passed away. It is pretty obvious he suffered a deep depression.

I am a dimwit in many fields. However I am a blockhead specially about computers.

I wonder if someone more skilled in such field can use the whole discography of Nirvana to generate new songs.




Fuck that shit and fuck this AI crap

Humans get the time that they're on this side of the dirt to do what their gonna do and that's it

What you're suggesting is horrible horrible sacrilege


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: Capitan_Pacheco]
    #28629941 - 01/21/24 02:37 PM (7 days, 30 minutes ago)

I was thinking it would be difficult to seperate the Nirvana bootlegs from A.i.


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: KevinDontWave]
    #28630793 - 01/22/24 08:46 AM (6 days, 6 hours ago)

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Joh.Ke said:
I think Cobain killed himself




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At 27? :shrug:




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KevinDontWave said:
Why so incredulous?




Quote:

durian_2008 said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club

idk what kind of deal is made, in particular, but am skeptical that these people are free agents.




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Obviously you're skeptical but why?

You don't have to share your reasons, I'm just curious.




It was a superstitious conspiracy theory, about lots of celebs who die at the age of 27.

I don't mind catchy riffs and tasteful, aesthetic simulacrum but considered him a simp, personally. 

In the interview shown, he can't think of new material.

In his last appearance, he is surrounded by lilies, plateauing...


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: durian_2008]
    #28630811 - 01/22/24 09:02 AM (6 days, 6 hours ago)

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We have an advantage, in AI, at present, because we are still allowed to think for ourselves, and the outcome is made-to-order.

Rather than having to take so many gigs, to make a name for ourselves, there is self-publishing and the possibility for fascinating album covers.

Most of these groups didn't sound very good, without some version of autotuning, that we can all do, now.

Somewhere, I have framed, Rolling Stone magazines with Cobains on the cover. I can especially recollect an English teacher, who had Cobain in her hyphenated name, and who claimed to be a cousin

But I think there are people with more life experiences, with more interesting things to say and think than Nirvana. Maybe, you.

I mean to say, he's made his contribution, fwiw. I was there, and did that -- sometimes, on some the same streets where they were.


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #28631058 - 01/22/24 01:06 PM (6 days, 2 hours ago)

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Somewhere, I have framed, Rolling Stone magazines with Cobains on the cover.

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I mean to say, he's made his contribution, fwiw. I was there, and did that -- sometimes, on some the same streets where they were.





Durian...are you Kurt Cobain? :omgz:


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: ElVatoFirme]
    #28631247 - 01/22/24 04:41 PM (5 days, 22 hours ago)

“AND THIS LITTLE PIGGY WENT TO HEAVEN”

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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: ElVatoFirme]
    #28633328 - 01/24/24 01:25 PM (4 days, 1 hour ago)

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Somewhere, I have framed, Rolling Stone magazines with Cobains on the cover.

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I mean to say, he's made his contribution, fwiw. I was there, and did that -- sometimes, on some the same streets where they were.



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Durian...are you Kurt Cobain? :omgz:




I wear the same shirt, washed.

I like the women, but consider myself a complete person, already.

I am  not particularly against grit and lo-fi. Except I don't understand why there must be such downbeat emotions, as I am more of a triumphalist asshole.

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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: durian_2008]
    #28633342 - 01/24/24 01:36 PM (4 days, 1 hour ago)

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I saw this the other day, I didn't really like it, the screaming at the end is particularly bad


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: durian_2008]
    #28633343 - 01/24/24 01:37 PM (4 days, 1 hour ago)

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I was there, and did that -- sometimes, on some the same streets where they were.




I recognize landmarks from where he is filmed and participated directly.

Responsibly hedonist with no inclination towards self harm, whatsoever.


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: durian_2008]
    #28633347 - 01/24/24 01:39 PM (4 days, 1 hour ago)

Counselors singled out the grunge clique and asked us all, whether we were going to collectively commit suicide.


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    #28633354 - 01/24/24 01:43 PM (4 days, 1 hour ago)

Between the Satanic Panic and trenchcoat mafia, there was alot of focus on self-helpliness and conflict resolution, so that everyone -- no matter how worthless or irredeemable -- would feel proud of themselves. The beginning of the Dovegirl and safespace era. :facepalm:


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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: gopher]
    #28634084 - 01/25/24 07:15 AM (3 days, 7 hours ago)

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I saw this the other day, I didn't really like it, the screaming at the end is particularly bad




I checked this out the other day too.  Didn't even make it to the end.  I thought it was horrible

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Re: Kurt Cobain, Nirvana and AI [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #28634601 - 01/25/24 02:41 PM (3 days, 27 minutes ago)

I noticed that up-and-coming singers, covering original songs in talent shows, had much better vocal range and sound quality, tbh.

It's just a ditty.

Someone came up with it, before us.

We can do this better, now, giving creative credit where it is due.

We have better tools, cheaper, but they are following the instructions given, not operating themselves.


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