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Re: Spirit of Nature in Black Metal [Re: Lithop] 1
#28326446 - 05/19/23 03:23 PM (8 months, 5 days ago) |
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Alright, finally have some time to smoke and sit down for a while. I’m gonna try and keep out of the weeds. My opinions are subject to change over time, but for now this is what I mean
In nature, as we exist right now, conscious and on this earth, there are the seen and the unseen. I mean this pragmatically, is it true? “For every seen thing there is the unseen.” Music, one of the unseen. For this purpose I will define “spirit” as - “the thing which animates.” For every human there is the unseen thing which animates them. For every tree there are the unseen happenings of the xylem and phloem. When something dies, the thing which animates it is gone. I know I’m pointing out the obvious, I’m trying to say there are unseen things that are just as much a part of nature as the seen things.
Electricity is unseen yet the potential for it is everywhere. Electricity is a part of nature, Frequency is a fundamental building block in nature. Magnetic fields are a part of nature and are unseen. Music is unseen and IMO is a part of nature and just like electricity, the potential is always there. It’s up to us to use it. As technology moves, it seems the micro is just as vast as the macro, and since they are opposite, it suggests they are leading to the same place.
Light is frequency, everything is tuned to something. Frequency has a big impact on all things seen. It is a glue of sorts. Electricity is set to a frequency, 60Hz where I’m at.

Point being music is frequency expressed with spirit or energy in motion. Not trying to rant too long about this , because frequency is a big subject, an amazing subject and I’m sure your already aware of it.
The numbers in music are found in nature as well. Geometry is music expressed in shapes. They are closely related. Some geometric shapes make perfect chords when the inner angles are converted to Hz and added. Next time your tripping, those shapes are making music! Plus the circles of musical scales, which drawn out, make perfect geometric shapes while relating notes to each other. ROYGBIV, colors and music, the 7 diatonic notes and the seven colors. Flat the violet back to the indigo for a blue note. The primary colors and three primary notes to a chord, mixing notes is like mixing colors. I know there is more than one chromatic scale, but I’m familiar with the 12 note scale and completes its circle like the 12 months of the year.
And that’s another thing, time and rhythm. Time, another unseen aspect of nature and time is a part of music. Without time music would sound like shit and chaos. The funny part is, we can only hear things now, one at a time. The way music interacts with time fucks with me head sometimes. If we can only hear the present note, what let’s us know if something is out of time? Memory maybe, the intervals. Frequency is set to time. Nature has its times and rhythms too.
A lot of this is difficult to just put in a nutshell I guess. The spirit of nature, to me is expressed through the spirit of music. Other things too, for sure but music is one of them. When a painter brings a canvas to life, it is too the spirit of nature and so on. “Architecture is music frozen in time.” I forget who said it, but beautiful. I will post more later about this if I feel it’s important, in order to splain myself. Take care man
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Re: Spirit of Nature in Black Metal [Re: Hertz]
#28365090 - 06/19/23 05:45 AM (7 months, 6 days ago) |
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Alright, finally have some time to smoke and sit down for a while. I’m gonna try and keep out of the weeds. My opinions are subject to change over time, but for now this is what I mean
Sick, apologies on the late reply BTW dude!
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In nature, as we exist right now, conscious and on this earth, there are the seen and the unseen. I mean this pragmatically, is it true? “For every seen thing there is the unseen.” Music, one of the unseen. For this purpose I will define “spirit” as - “the thing which animates.” For every human there is the unseen thing which animates them. For every tree there are the unseen happenings of the xylem and phloem. When something dies, the thing which animates it is gone. I know I’m pointing out the obvious, I’m trying to say there are unseen things that are just as much a part of nature as the seen things.
I'm following here as you set the stage.
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Electricity is unseen yet the potential for it is everywhere. Electricity is a part of nature, Frequency is a fundamental building block in nature. Magnetic fields are a part of nature and are unseen. Music is unseen and IMO is a part of nature and just like electricity, the potential is always there. It’s up to us to use it. As technology moves, it seems the micro is just as vast as the macro, and since they are opposite, it suggests they are leading to the same place.
Light is frequency, everything is tuned to something. Frequency has a big impact on all things seen. It is a glue of sorts. Electricity is set to a frequency, 60Hz where I’m at.
Just rewatched 'LOST' so all this talk of the natural occurance of magnetic fields is very fresh in my mind  The micro being as vast as the macro too, is a point I can get stuck thinking about for a long time ... "Everything small is just a small version of something big!" Finn, Adventure Time
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The numbers in music are found in nature as well. Geometry is music expressed in shapes. They are closely related. Some geometric shapes make perfect chords when the inner angles are converted to Hz and added. Next time your tripping, those shapes are making music! Plus the circles of musical scales, which drawn out, make perfect geometric shapes while relating notes to each other. ROYGBIV, colors and music, the 7 diatonic notes and the seven colors. Flat the violet back to the indigo for a blue note. The primary colors and three primary notes to a chord, mixing notes is like mixing colors. I know there is more than one chromatic scale, but I’m familiar with the 12 note scale and completes its circle like the 12 months of the year.
It really is crazy to think that all this shit works in tandem, relying on the same principles- despite it being apparant. Got me thinking about synthestesia, too.
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And that’s another thing, time and rhythm. Time, another unseen aspect of nature and time is a part of music. Without time music would sound like shit and chaos. The funny part is, we can only hear things now, one at a time. The way music interacts with time fucks with me head sometimes. If we can only hear the present note, what let’s us know if something is out of time? Memory maybe, the intervals. Frequency is set to time. Nature has its times and rhythms too.
"Without time music would sound like shit and chaos."<- Me anywhere out of 4/4 I jest- but another good insight dude, it becomes all the more apparant when you try and, say, learn a 'easy' bassline- only to discover the alleged simplicity of its groove actually comes from grace notes, ghost notes & it sitting jankily timing wise... When people talk about 'in the pocket' versus dragging, rushing etc. It's like that oft quoted thing "Time is natures way of making sure everything doesn't happen at once." Although linear time perception allows us to calculate, parse and measure the rhythms of nature but I sometimes think about 'the hidden rhythms' of nature that are measure on such a (back to the micro/macro) scale that we can't comprehend.
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A lot of this is difficult to just put in a nutshell I guess. The spirit of nature, to me is expressed through the spirit of music. Other things too, for sure but music is one of them. When a painter brings a canvas to life, it is too the spirit of nature and so on. “Architecture is music frozen in time.” I forget who said it, but beautiful. I will post more later about this if I feel it’s important, in order to splain myself. Take care man 
Really enjoyed that. Definitely hard to put in a nutshell and would serve better/easier as conversation fodder IRL than trying to encapsulate it on a firum post. TBH, you 'mic dropped' at "The spirit of nature, to me is expressed through the spirit of music."  Therein lies the true energy contained in good art.
Thanks for your post dude and cheers!
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Re: Spirit of Nature in Black Metal [Re: Lithop] 1
#28376767 - 06/27/23 04:47 PM (6 months, 28 days ago) |
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Lithop! Sorry I missed your reply somehow, I haven’t been on here as much as I’d like recently, but damn dude that’s crazy cause I was just watching Lost a couple weeks ago! I saw your note and knew you were busy with life and such, me too man. Life is always changing, pushing and pulling. Recently it’s been pulling me. I agree with you, it would be way easier to talk about all this in IRL.
Okay Champ - The Party’s Over is #3 for me, haven’t decided on one and two yet. Sadly the jazz you put in there won’t make the top three for me lol, nothing against jazz at all. I do like it when I’m in that mood. I wanted to at least say sup and wishing you well
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Re: Spirit of Nature in Black Metal [Re: Hertz]
#28377262 - 06/28/23 01:20 AM (6 months, 28 days ago) |
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Hertz said: Lithop! Sorry I missed your reply somehow, I haven’t been on here as much as I’d like recently, but damn dude that’s crazy cause I was just watching Lost a couple weeks ago! I saw your note and knew you were busy with life and such, me too man. Life is always changing, pushing and pulling. Recently it’s been pulling me. I agree with you, it would be way easier to talk about all this in IRL.
It's alllll gooooood, nice to hear from you!
 Funny about LOST, Hugo man- what an absolute hero. Yep life certainly does do that, hope you're being pulled and not yanked IE hope stuff is steady mate.
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Hertz said: Okay Champ - The Party’s Over is #3 for me, haven’t decided on one and two yet. Sadly the jazz you put in there won’t make the top three for me lol, nothing against jazz at all. I do like it when I’m in that mood. I wanted to at least say sup and wishing you well 
Great choice on that Bronze spot: "I used to like drugs but now I like therapy..... I used to fare well but now I do terribly..." fucking epic tune  Bro, my GF always says: "That's what I HATE about Jazz- they never know when to stop!" so I understand all/any Jazz isnt everyones everyday.
I reciprocate your well wishes.
 The sup is much appreciated- maybe I'll catch you in 'Post While Tripping' soon, keep on doing the good shit!
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Re: Spirit of Nature in Black Metal [Re: Lithop] 1
#28380647 - 06/30/23 08:20 PM (6 months, 25 days ago) |
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Lost is great. I was super into that when it was playing live
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: Lost is great. I was super into that when it was playing live
 Damn right!
Do you remember who your favourite character/story was back then?
This time around I was all about the Desmond story arc, brother.
I was a kid when it first aired, but on this rewatch I wonder what I was enjoying as a kid because I certainly didn't get it
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Re: Spirit of Nature in Black Metal [Re: Lithop]
#28381185 - 07/01/23 09:15 AM (6 months, 25 days ago) |
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: Lost is great. I was super into that when it was playing live
Same
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lifeiswhatyoumake said: Lost is great. I was super into that when it was playing live
 Damn right!
Do you remember who your favourite character/story was back then?
This time around I was all about the Desmond story arc, brother.
I was a kid when it first aired, but on this rewatch I wonder what I was enjoying as a kid because I certainly didn't get it 
I remember I really liked Syed’s character the first time. Desmond is cool too, down in the hatch...
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Re: Spirit of Nature in Black Metal [Re: Hertz]
#28382612 - 07/02/23 01:01 PM (6 months, 23 days ago) |
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Hertz said: I remember I really liked Syed’s character the first time. Desmond is cool too, down in the hatch...
Yeah Syed is cool, good balance of smarts and badassery-until the late seasons he starts acting like a fucking meathead IMO 
I remember really liking Charlie in the past but he actually acts like such a jealous little creep through the series that it done my head in this time round
 HOWEVER he did give "YOU ALL EVERYBODY!" to the world, so it's swings and roundabouts really
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Re: Spirit of Nature in Black Metal [Re: Lithop] 1
#28382956 - 07/02/23 07:00 PM (6 months, 23 days ago) |
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Hertz said: I remember I really liked Syed’s character the first time. Desmond is cool too, down in the hatch...
Yeah Syed is cool, good balance of smarts and badassery-until the late seasons he starts acting like a fucking meathead IMO 
I remember really liking Charlie in the past but he actually acts like such a jealous little creep through the series that it done my head in this time round
 HOWEVER he did give "YOU ALL EVERYBODY!" to the world, so it's swings and roundabouts really 
lol 
Here’s your lines for today
MICHAEL: Walt! Waaalllt! Waaall alt alt!
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Re: Spirit of Nature in Black Metal [Re: Hertz] 1
#28393440 - 07/12/23 11:26 AM (6 months, 14 days ago) |
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I agree about spirit of nature in a lot of black metal. I feel that the essence of black metal is not for me about satanism or anti-christianity, but rather a longing for your roots and origins, on a deeper level, including a longing for nature. Especially nordic nature.
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Re: Spirit of Nature in Black Metal [Re: Hertz]
#28394125 - 07/13/23 06:04 AM (6 months, 13 days ago) |
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Hertz said: lol 
Here’s your lines for today
MICHAEL: Walt! Waaalllt! Waaall alt alt!
Ah yeah that was the time where... No actually it was the time where... Wait.... Ok he fucking shouts Walt all the damn time  Have you seen "From" with 'Michael' in it? It's really cool, IMO- looking forward to the new ones coming out!
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newaccounts said: I agree about spirit of nature in a lot of black metal. I feel that the essence of black metal is not for me about satanism or anti-christianity, but rather a longing for your roots and origins, on a deeper level, including a longing for nature. Especially nordic nature.
Yes! Great take on it newaccounts, and a sweet Windir pick
What is it about W and great metal bands? Windir, Woods of Ypres, Wodensthrone, Winterfylleth, Wolves in the Throne Room,Wampyric Rites, Watain to name a few...
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Re: Spirit of Nature in Black Metal [Re: Lithop] 1
#28394132 - 07/13/23 06:19 AM (6 months, 13 days ago) |
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Not going to read the whole thread, but this artist ⬆️it’s about one of the only black metal artists I can stand anymore. But I do know the feeling, the job I was doing for years was flying around western Alaska every day. Black metal went so well with the tundra.
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Re: Spirit of Nature in Black Metal [Re: Land Trout]
#28394271 - 07/13/23 09:45 AM (6 months, 13 days ago) |
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Not going to read the whole thread, but this artist ⬆️it’s about one of the only black metal artists I can stand anymore. But I do know the feeling, the job I was doing for years was flying around western Alaska every day. Black metal went so well with the tundra.
Cheers- I'll check that out. Working like that definitely sounds suited to a bit of Black metal!  Would LOVE to experience some Tundra with BM blasting.
Did you just get burnt out on the genre, it moved out of your tastes or something?
EDIT: So, I started off quite disliking that album this morning, but when it got going it was some good Black Metal! Nice one.
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Re: Spirit of Nature in Black Metal [Re: Lithop]
#28394372 - 07/13/23 11:44 AM (6 months, 13 days ago) |
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Lithop said: Yes! Great take on it newaccounts, and a sweet Windir pick
What is it about W and great metal bands? Windir, Woods of Ypres, Wodensthrone, Winterfylleth, Wolves in the Throne Room,Wampyric Rites, Watain to name a few...

Haha yes, the power of the W.
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Re: Spirit of Nature in Black Metal [Re: Land Trout] 1
#28395737 - 07/14/23 07:22 PM (6 months, 11 days ago) |
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Edited by Hertz (07/14/23 07:27 PM)
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