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Re: Let's talk Trans issues and how people react to them (respectful) [Re: MagicMush123]
#28295212 - 04/25/23 07:27 PM (8 months, 29 days ago) |
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MagicMush123 said: ie; being malicious with their trans identity or by hurting their development by artificially changing their brain chemistry/body with hormones/blockers
See? Control of language.
A puberty blocker...stops changes in the body. Literally, the entire point of a puberty blocker is to give a child time to make a decision. What MagicMush here is saying is that he very much wants children to undergo permanent changes in sexual identity development, as long as they're the changes he deems to be correct.
But he phrases his opposition to children being given time to make a decision as "stopping harm"--it's like how anti-abortionists started calling themselves "pro-life". They couldn't be honest and call themselves anti-choicers, nobody would agree to that. They manipulate language to make you think you agree.
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Re: Let's talk Trans issues and how people react to them (respectful) [Re: Kryptos]
#28295289 - 04/25/23 08:33 PM (8 months, 29 days ago) |
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Re: Let's talk Trans issues and how people react to them (respectful) [Re: Kryptos]
#28295391 - 04/25/23 09:33 PM (8 months, 29 days ago) |
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People in general dont know what they want in life, much less teens and adolescent children. Why not let things play out naturally and see what happens? What makes you think children should be able to fuck up their bodies and or lives over something crazy like thinking you're the other gender?
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Re: Let's talk Trans issues and how people react to them (respectful) [Re: NotSheekle]
#28295645 - 04/26/23 03:39 AM (8 months, 28 days ago) |
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NotSheekle said: No such thing as trans people, transphobia or even homophobia... not in the way it is described. These words are co-opted like Racist, Fascist or Nazi. These people fall into multiple categories of mental illness, identity disorders, their demands are compulsions and it is not our responsibility to conform with them.
someone said this was disrespectful, im not so sure it is. its uninformed, and a bit silly.
no such thing. would mean that the word doesnt mean anything or represent anything.
co-opted... is used wrong here... that would imply it had a meaning and was being used incorrectly to mean something else in the context you used it...but you said it had no meaning.
racist, fascist, and nazi all have meanings as well, which means your comparitor makes very little sense based on your initial assertion.
mental illness, is an umbrella term, but then you list 2 mental illnesses and then after implying they are demanding things you list a third.
and you say its not our responcibility to conform with them.
ok... so we have broken down your post, and only the last line has any meaning. "its not our responcibility to conform with them"
cool...we live in a country where it is our responcibility to allow others their rights. rights to express themselves (dance, act, speak, dress, fuck) in any way they like. the expression is your right to swing your fist ends at the tip of my nose. meaning you can act poorly, (swinging fists) so long as it doesnt stop me from the pursuit of happiness.
i would say, that a trans person is actively in the pursuit of happiness in a much bigger and more important way than most people. and in this country we have a responsibility to allow for that unless it is somehow stopping us from doing the same. you may say for example that you dont like christians being able to worship and burn down a church. but you are stopping them from their right to happiness so we dont allow that. infact its our responcibility to defend their right to worship as they see fit even their cannibalism offends us.
we dont have a responcibility to assist, at all. but we do have a responcibility to get out of the way and let them live their lives the way they see fit.
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Re: Let's talk Trans issues and how people react to them (respectful) [Re: Kryptos]
#28295671 - 04/26/23 04:25 AM (8 months, 28 days ago) |
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Kryptos said:
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MagicMush123 said: ie; being malicious with their trans identity or by hurting their development by artificially changing their brain chemistry/body with hormones/blockers
See? Control of language.
A puberty blocker...stops changes in the body. Literally, the entire point of a puberty blocker is to give a child time to make a decision. What MagicMush here is saying is that he very much wants children to undergo permanent changes in sexual identity development, as long as they're the changes he deems to be correct.
But he phrases his opposition to children being given time to make a decision as "stopping harm"--it's like how anti-abortionists started calling themselves "pro-life". They couldn't be honest and call themselves anti-choicers, nobody would agree to that. They manipulate language to make you think you agree.
It's newspeak. Some practice it in varying degrees of consciousness. but it's all newspeak.
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Re: Let's talk Trans issues and how people react to them (respectful) [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
#28295734 - 04/26/23 05:42 AM (8 months, 28 days ago) |
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I'm the father of a trans kid and when I first found out, I had to research the shit out of this.
What I found out was astonishing. Trans kids are mostly made because of an evil agenda by our ruling class (depop).
It starts out with childhood vax's, they contain baby fetal tissue cells which have an abundance of x-y chromosomes (what likely got my kid). These chromosomes are antagonistic, only one wins.
The next big hurdle is everyday products like soy, please don't feed your infants soy milk.
After this there are many many chemicals called "gender benders", please look that up.
Lastly it's pushed in schools and the media as trendy to be trans and the social pressure for kids can make them do it combined with what I mentioned above. Many kids don't even have a chance and have no idea what hit them.
Trans kids are by far the most suicidle group, my kid has tried to commit suicide multiple times, they are also the unhappiest group there is too, this usually happens after body mutilation, mine has had his breasts removed, thankfully he didn't have his lower surgery. Also the fricken state of california paid for all of this, he did not have to pay for anything.
Everyday is a major struggle for him with depression, antidepressants make it worse and that's why I'm here.
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Re: Let's talk Trans issues and how people react to them (respectful) [Re: jnzy111]
#28295752 - 04/26/23 06:06 AM (8 months, 28 days ago) |
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I’d be depressed if my dad thought soy milk turn kids trans instead of listening to my thoughts and feelings.
Imagine how horrible that must be.
‘Dad I got a problem…’
‘No child, your thoughts and feelings are illegitimate it’s the soy milk.’
Wow instead of my dad talking to me about my feelings and my agency he lumps me in with conspiracy theory nuttery. Thanks dad.
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Re: Let's talk Trans issues and how people react to them (respectful) [Re: jnzy111]
#28295754 - 04/26/23 06:08 AM (8 months, 28 days ago) |
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i would like to see evidence that it is pushed in schools.
i dont think using they/them instead of he/she/they is causing anyone to becomes trans... beyond that i have seen NOTHING implying that any school is pushing kids to become trans.
and why would they, what does the school gain from trans kids... when conspiracy theories have no end game benefit its usually just bs.
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Re: Let's talk Trans issues and how people react to them (respectful) [Re: rxb]
#28295763 - 04/26/23 06:26 AM (8 months, 28 days ago) |
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rxb said: i would like to see evidence that it is pushed in schools.
i dont think using they/them instead of he/she/they is causing anyone to becomes trans... beyond that i have seen NOTHING implying that any school is pushing kids to become trans.
and why would they, what does the school gain from trans kids... when conspiracy theories have no end game benefit its usually just bs.
I think most of these highly retarded conspiracy theories started out as jokes on Reddit. Just like qanon. Then really paranoid, scared, gullible people read them and dont get the joke. That's exactly what this soy theory sounds like.
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Re: Let's talk Trans issues and how people react to them (respectful) [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
#28295823 - 04/26/23 07:27 AM (8 months, 28 days ago) |
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Re: Let's talk Trans issues and how people react to them (respectful) [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
#28295826 - 04/26/23 07:28 AM (8 months, 28 days ago) |
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MagicMush123 said: People in general dont know what they want in life, much less teens and adolescent children. Why not let things play out naturally and see what happens? What makes you think children should be able to fuck up their bodies and or lives over something crazy like thinking you're the other gender?
Because these are pretty goddamn clear cases of people knowing exactly what they want in life, trying to do it, and you are standing here insisting that no, they are wrong and don't actually know what they want.
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rxb said: i would like to see evidence that it is pushed in schools.
i dont think using they/them instead of he/she/they is causing anyone to becomes trans... beyond that i have seen NOTHING implying that any school is pushing kids to become trans.
and why would they, what does the school gain from trans kids... when conspiracy theories have no end game benefit its usually just bs.
I think most of these highly retarded conspiracy theories started out as jokes on Reddit. Just like qanon. Then really paranoid, scared, gullible people read them and dont get the joke. That's exactly what this soy theory sounds like.
Soybeans, like most plants, have phytohormomes, including phytoestrogens. Combine that with a woefully underdeveloped understanding of biology, and people start confusing the phytoestrogens with xenoestrogens.
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Re: Let's talk Trans issues and how people react to them (respectful) [Re: Kryptos]
#28295838 - 04/26/23 07:34 AM (8 months, 28 days ago) |
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beer too.
soybeans and beer will turn you trans according to jnzy glorious first post.
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Re: Let's talk Trans issues and how people react to them (respectful) [Re: Kryptos]
#28295840 - 04/26/23 07:35 AM (8 months, 28 days ago) |
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Kryptos said:
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MagicMush123 said: People in general dont know what they want in life, much less teens and adolescent children. Why not let things play out naturally and see what happens? What makes you think children should be able to fuck up their bodies and or lives over something crazy like thinking you're the other gender?
Because these are pretty goddamn clear cases of people knowing exactly what they want in life, trying to do it, and you are standing here insisting that no, they are wrong and don't actually know what they want.
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rxb said: i would like to see evidence that it is pushed in schools.
i dont think using they/them instead of he/she/they is causing anyone to becomes trans... beyond that i have seen NOTHING implying that any school is pushing kids to become trans.
and why would they, what does the school gain from trans kids... when conspiracy theories have no end game benefit its usually just bs.
I think most of these highly retarded conspiracy theories started out as jokes on Reddit. Just like qanon. Then really paranoid, scared, gullible people read them and dont get the joke. That's exactly what this soy theory sounds like.
Soybeans, like most plants, have phytohormomes, including phytoestrogens. Combine that with a woefully underdeveloped understanding of biology, and people start confusing the phytoestrogens with xenoestrogens.
soy and soy products have been in heavy use in asia for 500+ years... do you see a higher level of gay/trans people in asia? or could it be that someone is fooling you.
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Re: Let's talk Trans issues and how people react to them (respectful) [Re: mushboy]
#28295844 - 04/26/23 07:36 AM (8 months, 28 days ago) |
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mushboy said: beer too.
soybeans and beer will turn you trans according to jnzy glorious first post.

oh shit... the beer, THE BEER MAKES ME SUCK DICK.... i get it now.
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Re: Let's talk Trans issues and how people react to them (respectful) [Re: rxb]
#28295849 - 04/26/23 07:39 AM (8 months, 28 days ago) |
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combine that with growing shrooms and...
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Re: Let's talk Trans issues and how people react to them (respectful) [Re: mushboy]
#28295858 - 04/26/23 07:46 AM (8 months, 28 days ago) |
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mushboy said: beer too.
soybeans and beer will turn you trans according to jnzy glorious first post.

I mean in all honesty there's more evidence linking alcohol to gender dysphoria than there is soybeans. Alcohol I'm general just fucks you right on up.
I guess injecting soybeans might make the phytoestrogens act like xenoestrogens? Of course, having bits of soybean in your blood is gonna cause other issues.
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Re: Let's talk Trans issues and how people react to them (respectful) [Re: Kryptos]
#28295867 - 04/26/23 07:52 AM (8 months, 28 days ago) |
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Re: Let's talk Trans issues and how people react to them (respectful) [Re: Kryptos]
#28295951 - 04/26/23 08:57 AM (8 months, 28 days ago) |
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Kryptos said:
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mushboy said: beer too.
soybeans and beer will turn you trans according to jnzy glorious first post.

I mean in all honesty there's more evidence linking alcohol to gender dysphoria than there is soybeans. Alcohol I'm general just fucks you right on up.
I guess injecting soybeans might make the phytoestrogens act like xenoestrogens? Of course, having bits of soybean in your blood is gonna cause other issues.
Makes sense why Budweiser caught the gay.
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Re: Let's talk Trans issues and how people react to them (respectful) [Re: mushboy]
#28296052 - 04/26/23 10:16 AM (8 months, 28 days ago) |
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So what makes you such an authority on trans kids, do you have one???
When something happens to a child of yours, you go through great lengths to find out what happened and how can you even say such things if you haven't even taken one step in my shoes???
Is online bashing your favorite thing? Get a life..
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mushboy said: I’d be depressed if my dad thought soy milk turn kids trans instead of listening to my thoughts and feelings.
Imagine how horrible that must be.
‘Dad I got a problem…’
‘No child, your thoughts and feelings are illegitimate it’s the soy milk.’
Wow instead of my dad talking to me about my feelings and my agency he lumps me in with conspiracy theory nuttery. Thanks dad.
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#28296056 - 04/26/23 10:22 AM (8 months, 28 days ago) |
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You seem to think you have a say, and I doubt you've got a trans kid. Or even a kid at all, TBH.
Very heavy "As a nonbinary gay black man, I [GOP drivel]" vibes.
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