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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: pslyke]
    #28279619 - 04/15/23 09:04 PM (9 months, 8 days ago)

Dude, its a truly rare feeling. I always get excited when something unexpected like that happens.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28280956 - 04/16/23 06:12 PM (9 months, 8 days ago)

Now, I am curious how many men think I flirt with them.
I have had some men hit on me with such confidence I wonder if they thought I was flirting.
Or
Received love poems, one guy expressed his love to me like we were old lovers. I barely knew him.
In NO way am I making light of their feelings.
I just have always wondered why.. and I am wondering if dressing up, because I love to dress up sends signals I am not intending.
I thought I was going to be a fashion designer when I was a kid. I love sewing, clothes, drawing them, etc. I enjoy dressing up.
Has nothing to do with another person.
This gives me a new perspective to consider. I am not going to stop being my authentic self but it gives me something to think about.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: loladoreen]
    #28280988 - 04/16/23 06:44 PM (9 months, 8 days ago)

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Now, I am curious how many men think I flirt with them.
I have had some men hit on me with such confidence I wonder if they thought I was flirting.
Or
Received love poems, one guy expressed his love to me like we were old lovers. I barely knew him.
In NO way am I making light of their feelings.
I just have always wondered why.. and I am wondering if dressing up, because I love to dress up sends signals I am not intending.
I thought I was going to be a fashion designer when I was a kid. I love sewing, clothes, drawing them, etc. I enjoy dressing up.
Has nothing to do with another person.
This gives me a new perspective to consider. I am not going to stop being my authentic self but it gives me something to think about.





Its always variable af!
Men will hit on you IF they have the confidence , without any prior incentive besides maybe eye contact, others would not have the confidence to do so, others would be so desperate as to do so without any predisposition whatsoever.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28282068 - 04/17/23 01:09 PM (9 months, 7 days ago)

None of it is offense to me. I hope I am not leaving that impression. And I don't get hit on a lot. I am told I am intimidating. Used to hurt my feelings. I am ok with it now.
I do kinda wish I got hit on.. doesn't everyone a little. REPHRASE I wish I was flirted with not hit on.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: loladoreen] * 1
    #28282816 - 04/17/23 09:35 PM (9 months, 6 days ago)

Intidating women can be intidating to men for sure.

Its nice to be hit on/flirted with, a boast of confidence. However, it can be awkward for me if Im not attracted to the woman or if they are already taken.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #28282897 - 04/17/23 10:53 PM (9 months, 6 days ago)

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I am someone who dresses up a lot. When I was younger I dressed up for my partner, but only because my partner would express that he liked it. I have not been with a man that is like that in over 25 years.
I 100% dress up because I like it. I like clothes, I like getting ready, I like the entire process and when it is
completed.





There it is... I believe you, and you are right. At a certain age women stop dressing up strictly for male attention, and they begin dressing up in an attempt to hold on to their youth. At that point, her dressing up becomes for herself. But before that, nah.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: LocN9ne]
    #28285230 - 04/19/23 11:52 AM (9 months, 5 days ago)

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I am someone who dresses up a lot. When I was younger I dressed up for my partner, but only because my partner would express that he liked it. I have not been with a man that is like that in over 25 years.
I 100% dress up because I like it. I like clothes, I like getting ready, I like the entire process and when it is
completed.





There it is... I believe you, and you are right. At a certain age women stop dressing up strictly for male attention, and they begin dressing up in an attempt to hold on to their youth. At that point, her dressing up becomes for herself. But before that, nah.




Completely 100000% YES


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: loladoreen] * 1
    #28285344 - 04/19/23 01:03 PM (9 months, 5 days ago)

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I have had some men hit on me with such confidence I wonder if they thought I was flirting.




When a man is strongly attracted to a woman, it's often an incredibly emotional experience that he feels deeply.  I'm skeptical women can understand this experience.  I'm unsure words can even approach describing it accurately.

There's a school of thought (rarely discussed) that men are much more romantic than women.  That women are quite naive about the male experience, and that men are the true romantics (despite the pervasive myth this is a mostly a female phenomenon) 

BTW, notice in this age of so called "progressivism" we're still quite comfortable talking about men "hitting" on women.  Isn't this violent language to use considering the actual behavior?  Being "hit on" is generally a derogatory term used by females. 

I've never ever heard a man complain about being "hit" on

It almost seems that men and women are different.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28285850 - 04/19/23 06:11 PM (9 months, 5 days ago)

Wow.. your post has got me thinking.
You are right on the hit on part.
The romantic part.. I dont know.. I need to sit on that.  I may not see it because I am not looking.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: loladoreen] * 1
    #28287435 - 04/20/23 09:51 PM (9 months, 3 days ago)

I've been reading some authors I'm new to, about men's issues, such as the feminization of men (Rollo Tomassi), and the nature of seduction.  I'm new to a lot of it - I wish I would have learned this info decades ago. The gal on YouTube who does "The Means of Seduction" channel is fascinating, and her video, "Seduce with Your Eyes" is fantastic!

A couple of things - should we differentiate between romantic feelings and romantic behavior?  I feel they might sometimes be different.  Maybe when a man feels deep romantic feelings he is triggered by his emotional connection to his mother.  When a woman feels deeply romantic for a man, does she cherish him in a deeply emotional fashion?  It seems (maybe) women are attracted to other things in a man?  Maybe what I'm considering is that romantic feelings in men and women may be very different.

BTW, when you are told you are intimidating, have you ever asked the person to dissect that a bit?

research is fun and interesting


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #28287833 - 04/21/23 08:15 AM (9 months, 3 days ago)

Camille Paglia is interesting as well.

https://www.salon.com/1999/08/13/hitchcock_paglia/


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: myc_ousin_vinny]
    #28288014 - 04/21/23 10:54 AM (9 months, 3 days ago)

Interesting article!  I'll watch Hitchcock movies a bit differently now.

Partway through reading, as they talk about a man becoming primally transfixed with "deep, mythological, awed emotion" made me think of the feminist criticism of "the male gaze".  And then they discuss exactly that topic a few paragraphs later. 

I laughed at the remarks about the "vampiric degree" men have been bashed by feminists for making women objects and how men turn women into "meat".  And the promotion of the idea "history is nothing but male oppression and female victimization"

And the article criticized the modern-day PC belief that our sexual identities are socially constructed and that there's nothing at all essentially "male" or "female."

~ it's a breath of fresh air ~

I wonder if women ever become primally transfixed with deep, mythological, awed emotion when it comes to men?


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28288042 - 04/21/23 11:18 AM (9 months, 3 days ago)

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I've been reading some authors I'm new to, about men's issues, such as the feminization of men (Rollo Tomassi), and the nature of seduction.  I'm new to a lot of it - I wish I would have learned this info decades ago. The gal on YouTube who does "The Means of Seduction" channel is fascinating, and her video, "Seduce with Your Eyes" is fantastic!

A couple of things - should we differentiate between romantic feelings and romantic behavior?  I feel they might sometimes be different.  Maybe when a man feels deep romantic feelings he is triggered by his emotional connection to his mother.  When a woman feels deeply romantic for a man, does she cherish him in a deeply emotional fashion?  It seems (maybe) women are attracted to other things in a man?  Maybe what I'm considering is that romantic feelings in men and women may be very different.

BTW, when you are told you are intimidating, have you ever asked the person to dissect that a bit?

research is fun and interesting



On my first date with this guy I asked him. And he said you just seem like if someone is to date you they should bring their "A" game.
I said... yes.. they should.
We actually dated for a few months. First time I asked him out. He said he had wanted to ask me out but I was intimidating


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: loladoreen]
    #28288049 - 04/21/23 11:23 AM (9 months, 3 days ago)

So, he interpreted something about you that made him reach the conclusion that you have very high (unrealistic?) expectations.

I wonder what that was. Your body language?  The tone of your voice or the way you speak?  The types of words you use?  Your facial expressions?

Or do you show up to your dates with a clipboard and a long checklist?

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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28288064 - 04/21/23 11:33 AM (9 months, 3 days ago)

I think it was probably all those things.
I knew him from work. He was a colleague.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28288077 - 04/21/23 11:43 AM (9 months, 3 days ago)

He was so much fun.
Interesting thing happened with him in particular. I learned a lot about myself from him.
He was younger than me. I am turning 50 in a few weeks and I think he was early 30's. He was a new attorney, only 3 years in. Maybe he was barely 30.
We both worked out at the gym at work. I saw him there and we worked together in other areas occasionally. His body was... OMG He wasn't a super attractive guy. My friends thought he was nerdy. I was completely into him. I liked him a lot and found him soooooo attractive.
First date:
I called him and asked him to meet me in a city two hours away and go dancing. That was our first date. I had sooo much fun. One of the funnest nights of my life. He told me he didn't ask me out because I was so intimidating. I asked why, because I had been told that a lot.Thats when he said you seem like you expect someone to bring their A game. I said I do.
What I learned about myself from him.. I self sabotaged that relationship.
I felt insecure and I am not an insecure person.
I have had 3 kids, I was in really really good shape, but I was not the 23 year old body was used to dating. I had 2 adult children and one son that was a senior in high school. He had no children and was an only child.
He did NOTHING to make me feel insecure.. I mean nothing.
That is what I saw I self sabotaged it.
He was moving and asked me to move with him and I said no. It was too fast for me.
When I look back I can see where it could have been something more. And I am the one that stopped by making assumptions and being insecure.
It was disappointing... really was disappointed in myself. But I learned from it.


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    #28289431 - 04/22/23 06:06 AM (9 months, 2 days ago)

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...to me, toxic masculinity is more about men not feeling free to talk about their feelings then it is about flirting.




Yesterday my brother was scolded by two business partners for the "tone" he used during a business meeting.  He simply stated how he felt.  He said he was frustrated by some things that had gone on.

He was scolded by two other men for being honest about his feelings.  He said nothing mean and was not angry.  He simply explained why he was frustrated. They told him he used the "wrong tone."

It appears men are attempting to castrate other men.

All in the name of being "progressive"! 

We are really going down the shit hole . . .





You sound deranged


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #28289437 - 04/22/23 06:20 AM (9 months, 2 days ago)

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Anonymous #5 said:
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Anonymous #2 said:

...to me, toxic masculinity is more about men not feeling free to talk about their feelings then it is about flirting.




Yesterday my brother was scolded by two business partners for the "tone" he used during a business meeting.  He simply stated how he felt.  He said he was frustrated by some things that had gone on.

He was scolded by two other men for being honest about his feelings.  He said nothing mean and was not angry.  He simply explained why he was frustrated. They told him he used the "wrong tone."

It appears men are attempting to castrate other men.

All in the name of being "progressive"! 

We are really going down the shit hole . . .





You sound deranged




Lol, kind of an ironic statement...


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: pslyke] * 1
    #28447496 - 08/26/23 02:22 PM (5 months, 4 hours ago)

In an Ironic Twist of Fate, the raven-haired temptress is back!

Shes back from her Alsakan internship and came back to her old job/position. Really cool :awesome:

Yesterday, our work shifts had a potluck in which 3 departments share a lunch together in one of the conference rooms. It was really nice! In an ironic twist of fate, theres a new female employee who is very similar to a previous GF I had back in High School. Shes also transgendered.

This attractive transfemale has my favorite personality too: soft, feminine, gentle, shy but still socialable in the right context (like small groups). So now raven-haired temptress is back but has some new competition! :lol:

Its also ironic that she has the name of a previous female employee I worked with in a previous job. As many of you know, a woman's first name is important to me. That previous female employee temptress with the sexy name was very hot, wearing sexy clothes on almost a daily basis. All the guy employees were simpin' :lol:

Back to the new lady: I have been attracted to a few transgendered females in the past, such as the beautiful Kim Petras, but this is the first time Ive been quite attracted to one in my personal life. When physical head-to-toe beauty and shy but friendly personality come together, its my favorite combo.
At the potluck, I got to flirt a little bit with raven-hair temptress, doing some gentle teasing while we were playing Uno. She even laughed at me when I made a mistake about the "+2" card. That was cute. She also wore some slightly-sexy tight long workout shorts. That was nice. She looked really pretty with her short black hair and pierced eyebrows (my favorite piercing for women). I definitely was feeling some feels for her. She actually won Uno so that was fun for her.

Then the potluck ends and I stay behind to clean up the tables and the beautiful transgendered lady stays behind to talk to me. That was nice. I can tell she may like me as well. I definitely felt some good feels for her too.

Its pretty wild having feelings for both a born female and a transitioned female. 2023 has been full of many surprises :awesome:


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #28447501 - 08/26/23 02:26 PM (5 months, 4 hours ago)

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Will you make an attempt to confirm your suspicion, or is it more fun to not?



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Classic men thinking women are doing things for them specifically.




Make a polite request.

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