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True Albino Melmac - just slow?
    #28283404 - 04/18/23 08:47 AM (9 months, 5 days ago)

Started some TAM back in February from LC. Colonization was great, though the grow bags were put in the fridge for about a week during a ski break. Bags were fully colonized and still sealed.

Removed from fridge and allowed to warm back up for about a week upon return, and then introduced to FC. So it's been about a month now in FC, and no signs of pinning.

Is this just a case of slow moving genetics? Pictures below (the straws are for hydration) - looking for some expert sets of eyes to hopefully figure out if there's any contam, or if things look good.  Misting and FAE about 3x/day.



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Re: True Albino Melmac - just slow? [Re: Jackstraw2018] * 1
    #28283410 - 04/18/23 08:49 AM (9 months, 5 days ago)

The cakes look on the dry side to me. That's about the only thing that comes to mind.


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Re: True Albino Melmac - just slow? [Re: johnukguy]
    #28283597 - 04/18/23 11:23 AM (9 months, 5 days ago)

Thanks. Is it worth dunking them at this point?

Also, any idea what all the little pinhead dots are? Are those hyphal knots? There's a lot of bad information out there about what is a true hyphal knot.

From what I've been reading, all the little bumps (looks like measles or chicken pox) are pretty typical of PE varietals.

Just trying to educate myself!


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Re: True Albino Melmac - just slow? [Re: Jackstraw2018]
    #28283667 - 04/18/23 12:14 PM (9 months, 5 days ago)

Really new to growing, so just curious. What are those straw things?
edit: im a fool and should have read more carefully


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Re: True Albino Melmac - just slow? [Re: Jackstraw2018]
    #28283669 - 04/18/23 12:16 PM (9 months, 5 days ago)

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Started some TAM back in February from LC. Colonization was great, though the grow bags were put in the fridge for about a week during a ski break. Bags were fully colonized and still sealed.

Removed from fridge and allowed to warm back up for about a week upon return, and then introduced to FC. So it's been about a month now in FC, and no signs of pinning.

Is this just a case of slow moving genetics? Pictures below (the straws are for hydration) - looking for some expert sets of eyes to hopefully figure out if there's any contam, or if things look good.  Misting and FAE about 3x/day.






Melmacs do take a while from what i have read and heard


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Re: True Albino Melmac - just slow? [Re: Pandaskis] * 1
    #28284479 - 04/18/23 08:47 PM (9 months, 5 days ago)

It's hard to say for sure, but this appears to be a pin!! Hopefully the first of many :cool:



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Re: True Albino Melmac - just slow? [Re: Jackstraw2018]
    #28291934 - 04/23/23 05:41 PM (9 months, 8 hours ago)

Update:

I was out of pocket for a few days, and returned to this (see image).  Happy to finally see some movement, but this little guy looks pretty weird. The mist/FAE cycle got out of whack while I was away.

The blue/green is bruising, not trich.



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Re: True Albino Melmac - just slow? [Re: Jackstraw2018]
    #28291944 - 04/23/23 05:46 PM (9 months, 8 hours ago)

I take it that that green I'm seeing towards the bottom
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Update:

I was out of pocket for a few days, and returned to this (see image).  Happy to finally see some movement, but this little guy looks pretty weird. The mist/FAE cycle got out of whack while I was away.

The blue/green is bruising, not trich.






Bruising is usually far more blue than green, so I am concerned about that colouration towards the bottom, on the foil, and it looks powdery to me. It could be bruising and the lighting but it does concern me. My eyesight isn't great though so I'll wait for more updates.


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Re: True Albino Melmac - just slow? [Re: johnukguy] * 1
    #28292065 - 04/23/23 07:10 PM (9 months, 7 hours ago)

Thanks johnukguy.  The coloring is definitely bruising from being handled/moved into FC.  It's been there since the move, hasn't grown, and doesn't rub off when swabbed.

The green on the foil you mentioned is a lighting thing.  The room they live is painted a rather vibrant green.

Thanks again.  I'll keep logging updates.


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Re: True Albino Melmac - just slow? [Re: Jackstraw2018]
    #28292089 - 04/23/23 07:39 PM (9 months, 7 hours ago)

That's a relief. :smile:


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Re: True Albino Melmac - just slow? [Re: johnukguy] * 1
    #28299223 - 04/28/23 06:42 PM (8 months, 26 days ago)

Update. Things are picking up!!



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Re: True Albino Melmac - just slow? [Re: Jackstraw2018]
    #28307657 - 05/05/23 10:52 AM (8 months, 19 days ago)

Ok, so things are finally starting to fruit, but now I'm concerned about some kind of contam (maybe vert?).  Almost all of the fruits have very bulbous midsections and relatively small caps that very quickly go from white to blue to black once they start opening. Many are turning around on themselves and growing back into the cake.

Maybe it's just genetics??



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Re: True Albino Melmac - just slow? [Re: Jackstraw2018] * 1
    #28308030 - 05/05/23 04:40 PM (8 months, 19 days ago)

I'm not really seeing any vert. The large aborts seem to be a trend with any of the albino PE style genetics. APE probably shows it more than any of them but all are prone IME. The more unstable the conditions the faster they abort.
The curving fruits are likely 100% albino. Pigment plays a role in fungal photoreceptors (which cubensis have) and the lack of leaves the fruits more or less blind. It's not simply an off and on kind of thing and can vary with strains and grows. Curvatures can also be affected by other mutations so it's not strictly an albino thing either.

Here's an example of "blind" Falbino pure albinos.


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Re: True Albino Melmac - just slow? [Re: the_chosen_one]
    #28320454 - 05/15/23 10:51 AM (8 months, 9 days ago)

Thanks. Got through the first flush. It was pretty low yield with a lot of those larger pin-abort things, and two good size mutant blobs. Hoping the second flush is a little more "organized."


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Re: True Albino Melmac - just slow? [Re: Jackstraw2018]
    #28369295 - 06/21/23 07:39 PM (7 months, 3 days ago)

Hey, late reply but just so you know ... if you're using a pre-made all-in-one mycobag kit, the main reason they don't work well with PE or any fat mutants is because they need a high substrate ratio of at least 1:2 spawn to sub n most of those bags are 1:1 ... maybe 1:1.5 at best

When PE or other fat mutants have too much nutrients and not enough water, they abort and mutate like crazy and the yield is terrible. All that overlay looks like excess nutes to me

soaking doesn't help, it's all about the ratio

1:1 with poo is even worse for PE. Could add a little poo for 1:3 or 1:4 but you want mostly coir/CVG for sure

Between 1:2 to 1:4 works just fine. Millet is especially great for 1:3 or 1:4. Colonization time is about the same

Melmac varieties are the least fussy of the PE and don't require a casing to avoid blobs on first flush etc, but they do need low nutes, high moisture content

If you insist on using the pre-made all in one bags, go with Ecuadorian or Golden Teacher imo or any South American varieties. Maybe even Purple Mystic or Transkei. Anything that isn't a fat mutant


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