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Tell me about your experiences with using psilocybin to treat mental health issues * 2
    #28283082 - 04/18/23 03:15 AM (9 months, 6 days ago)

I’ve got a number of health issues such as C-PTSD, treatment-resistant depression, anxiety, autism and ADHD. They of course also intertwine and share symptoms too.

I’ve been doing talk therapy and antidepressants for decades now, without a whole lot of luck. I’ve tried EMDR which just fucked my shit up without a lot of benefits. I have done a lot of work on myself, but I feel like I’ve hit a wall. I’m fed up and deeply frustrated with the fact that I’m barely surviving, not thriving, and that I’m not currently able to live a normal life through no fault of my own—despite years and years of talk therapy and trying a grocery list of medications.

Around the new year I started looking into psychedelics for mental health after hearing Graham Hancock on Rogan’s podcast, which sent me into a deep dive of research, which all sounds promising. I’m very interested in microdosing with a Stamets stack to start with, then possibly gradually increasing dosage to do stronger trips with intent. So I found the shroomery and started growing as what is for me basically a last ditch effort to heal myself. I’m sick of therapists who aren’t trauma-informed telling me to watch a happy movie, make some tea, and take a walk to treat my severe debilitating traumas (I’m not making that up unfortunately). I’d laugh if it weren’t so disgusting and sad.

Now that I’m getting close to a first harvest (fingers crossed), I’m really curious about other people’s experiences treating similar issues, positive, negative, or both. I’m sure there are a lot of people who are similarly motivated. The scientific research, such as it is, sounds amazing, so I’d also like to hear anecdotal stories. Microdosing, macrodosing, whatever. I’m fascinated and I’d like to hear more.

Thanks for sharing :smile:


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Re: Tell me about your experiences with using psilocybin to treat mental health issues [Re: Mycodemus] * 2
    #28283263 - 04/18/23 07:01 AM (9 months, 6 days ago)

When using psychedelics for mental health you really need to start from scratch there is no rule book. You have to figure it out. Took me over a year to finaly learn how to get the best theraputic benefits I can.
Learning the dose. Learning set/setting and building confidence with the medicine. That's how I done it slow and steady.
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Re: Tell me about your experiences with using psilocybin to treat mental health issues [Re: Kmacmo] * 1
    #28284554 - 04/18/23 09:38 PM (9 months, 5 days ago)

Only on the phone now but I will recommend this: start slow. Set the vibe with low lights and calm music, carve out time to experience and have someone you love and trust nearby and possibly a crystal or two to put on your body or hold onto for dear life.  Good luck and God speed!


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Re: Tell me about your experiences with using psilocybin to treat mental health issues [Re: fake estate] * 1
    #28286051 - 04/19/23 08:44 PM (9 months, 4 days ago)

Hi Mycodemus,

My issues are extremely similar to yours, minus the autism and ADHD. I also seem to have some sort of chronic fatigue issue. I had my first harvest recently and first trip last weekend (it's in the Trip Reports area if you want to read it).  I only had enough to take a low dose once, and it looks like I'm not going to have any more for a while (the grow didn't go so well). But I do have one little shroom put aside and I'm going to try to microdose with it, probably tomorrow.

I was really happy with how my first experience went. I took 1 dry gram of Golden Teacher and it was a really happy, fun, funny, safe, non-threatening time for me. I don't know if everyone's first experience is so positive but I couldn't possibly feel better about how it went. I think it did help me feel better even for a few days afterward. Of course a bad mood eventually returned, but I've got "high" hopes for the future with the magic mushroom method. :smile:

Like you I'm beyond frustrated with therapy and antidepressants. I'm absolutely done with them. I love Graham Hancock and I also love listening to JRE.  Good luck with everything, I hope you have a great first experience like I did.


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Re: Tell me about your experiences with using psilocybin to treat mental health issues [Re: wanderer5]
    #28286350 - 04/20/23 04:54 AM (9 months, 4 days ago)

Serious things like schizophrenia, if it is primarily a disorder of thought and feeling and not hallucinations, can be suppressed or ingrained trauma, in actuality. LSD can get this moving out of the body through abreaction, at least during the comeup and first hour or so of the peak, where you can focus on the body and you're not in a higher reality and consumed with cognitive mysteries.


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Re: Tell me about your experiences with using psilocybin to treat mental health issues [Re: psilocybinmansions]
    #28286436 - 04/20/23 07:09 AM (9 months, 4 days ago)

Thanks to everyone who has posted so far. I’m definitely going to start very slowly, probably the Fadiman microdosing protocol (with maybe some niacin and/or lions mane if I can find some lions mane) to start.

I did do shrooms a few times in my teens, one of which was an unintentionally high dose which wasn’t all that pleasant, but I did have a trusted person with me to sit, and it did end up making me quit cigarettes for life. So I have great respect for the power of this medicine and have no intention of diving into the deep end.

I’d love to hear more experiences :smile:


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Re: Tell me about your experiences with using psilocybin to treat mental health issues [Re: Mycodemus] * 1
    #28299165 - 04/28/23 05:37 PM (8 months, 26 days ago)

Here’s my story.

I have depression and a variety of hangups … Like a lot of people, I guess.

I did a 3 g GT dose under the supervision of a psychologist. I was hopeful and open minded as well as completely inexperienced with psychedelics.

After unpacking my weird introspective trip on the medicine, I found that I was no longer troubled by one of my issues. “I’m just different in this weird way, and I’m OK with that,” I realized. My unhappiness and self doubt about this one thing disappeared permanently… so far anyway. It’s only been a few months. (I also have to say that the trip was fascinating but not fun. I felt sick a lot of the time, like when you drink too much and get the spins. I can’t imagine doing it recreationally.)

Why did the medicine pick that issue to work on? I don’t know. I wouldn’t have put it at very the top of my priority list, maybe #2. But that’s how it went down.

BTW I had this experience knowing nothing at all about the field. I had heard none of the miracle stories like mine, talked to no one about trying it, seen none of the documentaries, never heard of Stamets, etc. So, I don’t think I fooled myself.

It was astonishing. It was a truly healing experience and it’s why I am on this forum today. To grow delicious lion’s mane, I mean. Yeah.

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Re: Tell me about your experiences with using psilocybin to treat mental health issues [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #28301835 - 05/01/23 05:42 AM (8 months, 24 days ago)

Thanks for sharing, Anon #1. I’m so happy for you that you had a positive outcome.

Did you have a list of intentions? Was the psychologist experienced with psychedelic therapy? Will you do it again to see if it will help with your other issues?

As I mentioned, I did do a big dose as a teenager, probably a 3 or 4 level, for me it was awesome (in the grandiose and amazing sense of the word) and terrifying in turns, I felt like an alien in human skin…. and it was weird and scary but ended up making me quit cigarettes forever. I just saw how dumb and gross it was and how they were poison. I have had cigarettes once in a great while since then, but have never been tempted to smoke regularly ever again and in fact I really hate everything about them. So I have an idea of what power mushrooms have.

If things go well I should have a harvest in a few weeks. I’ve been using the time waiting for them to grow, to think about how to set healing intentions for my issues and traumas (of which there are many, and they intertwine in complicated ways). I don’t think I can just pick one and not have that pull on the strings in the web to end up in really dark places. And I don’t live in a place where there are psychologists familiar with psychedelics readily available.

As it is, my plan is to start with Microdosing, do that for a month or so and assess, and if it feels ok to gradually up the dose as suggested often here. I wonder if it’s ok to have as an intention to heal as gently as possible? It seems a bit general but I feel like if I get too specific, all roads lead back to Rome so to speak. And by Rome I mean when the barbarians were burning it down.

How specific should healing intentions be? Is there reading material on this subject somewhere?


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Re: Tell me about your experiences with using psilocybin to treat mental health issues [Re: Mycodemus] * 1
    #28302086 - 05/01/23 10:44 AM (8 months, 24 days ago)

Hi Mycodemus, here is my story. I am still figuring out my way but I have to say that shrooms do work for me. I had depressions in my twenties, took ADs for a short time and then found ways to cope with it (e.g sports) and led a rather happy life without medication.
During the pandemic it all came back, hitting me harder than before. Constant anxiety about the future and the increasing global crises weighed me down and sucked every pleasure out of life.
Last autumn I saw documentary about shrooms as a medicine. I started with a commercial set of B+, and after drying took below one gram, then increased the dose. It was a relief for me, a vacation from my depressed self and the effects lasted for a while. It helped especially with the anxiety.
I found out I'm rather sensitive and 1g is already intense for me, while my partner doesn't feel much. Everybody is different so starting low is a good idea.
But for me, the higher the dose the longer the effects seem to stay. 1.7g kept me in a decent mood for almost a month, then I had to repeat it.
Interestingly, the day after a trip I feel more down, I call it emotional hangover. After that, the positive effects kick in and life looks much brighter and I am positive and energetic.
I have no traumas from my past, so things might be different for you. I wish you all the best for your experiences and for healing yourself.


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Re: Tell me about your experiences with using psilocybin to treat mental health issues [Re: Mycodemus] * 1
    #28302101 - 05/01/23 11:01 AM (8 months, 24 days ago)

In answer to your first questions... Yes, yes, and yes.

My intention was, "I am open to where this takes me, but I would most like to reflect on Issue #1."

It ended up being mostly about Issue #2 despite my intention. I may have been underestimating how much Issue #2 really bothered me... It may have been the real #1 all along.

I'm no expert in this, with only one experience and no psych degree. But from the reports I have read I do not get the idea that people are normally precisely targeting personal issues. I think your more general intention is a reasonable place to start. I suspect that staying positive, curious, and open to game time changes are the most important things.

The best analogy I can think of is dreaming. You are likely to dream about things that are on your mind, but it seems impossible for most people to pick what they want to dream about.

I would also like to know if there is more scientifically rigorous material to read on setting intentions, and not just peoples' trip reports. This may not exist yet since the research has only restarted in recent years, as the laws slowly change.

(Your cigarette story is amazing. They are so addictive, kicking the habit instantly is a hell of an outcome!)


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Re: Tell me about your experiences with using psilocybin to treat mental health issues [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #28303189 - 05/02/23 08:43 AM (8 months, 23 days ago)

Do you mean intentions for the trip or the general healing process? I don't think it is really necessary to formulate them before tripping because in my opinion the real magic starts after the trip, when the brain tries to rebuild the connections that have been scrambled up by the drug. That's the phase when you are most receptive for new points of view and new thought patterns could establish and override the old and "faulty" ones. Of course, experiences from the trip might resonate and cause a lasting impression but I doubt that one can influence so much where the journey goes. Proper set and setting are key but then it's a ride you just have to take.


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Re: Tell me about your experiences with using psilocybin to treat mental health issues [Re: rocky_raccoon]
    #28303209 - 05/02/23 09:04 AM (8 months, 23 days ago)

I wouldn’t see need a drug for mental health. I got into using these for visionary experience. Sure, if wellness comes from experience, hi5!  Thing is, only momentarily last euphoria can reside for few days. Or to reflect in memory to experience, can placebo like that feeling over and over again. Can see if was to hold onto that sensation be could over lay that presence onto the presence of the now.  And can be said to help mental health. Not for me though.

Food and food, and water, do you drink enough water?  Also, good clean water not city adulterated water. Does make a difference.

Your brain feeds from the stomach, the heart, need feed good food to body for good to get to brain.

I eat all sorts of food. Proper organic simple meals were feel better than these ramen noodle packets eating now waiting for me paycheck. Thing about those is of how I can’t think right. Honestly, my thoughts are useless eating this diet of ramen noodle.

It’s pretty amazing to eat of all different quality of nourishment foods. Mental health plays 100% percent of what food we intake. Can’t disagree. For blood oils the brain.

Check your diet.

Eat mushrooms for the fun child like play, a wondering eye to beauty of life.

Mental health is for American Medical Association and if you not know that practice is pure malpractice ruing bodies left and right.

Isn’t not an honest mind free from mental health?  I’d say so.


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Re: Tell me about your experiences with using psilocybin to treat mental health issues [Re: WhoManBeing] * 1
    #28303264 - 05/02/23 10:01 AM (8 months, 23 days ago)

Hi Micodemus

As others have suggested, the science is largely unproved.  It's easy to get caught up by all the anecdotal evidence, but it's important to look for both sides of the 'argument' and this forum is by its nature heavily stacked with people with a positive attitude about shrooms.

Having drafted a disclaimer, I'll share my own experience.

I'm bi-polar II with PTSD following an incident that resulted in what they call "life changing injuries".  I've been an involuntary patient in psychiatric hospitals on a number of occasions and for a long time I relied on mood stabilisers, anti-psychotics, and SSRIs in order to function in society.

I got interested in shrooms last year, but for recreation rather than healing. 

Immediately after my first harvest I found to my disappointment that the prescription drugs (particularly the SSRIs) damp down the effects - 5g dry was only light visuals.

With all those shrooms lying around, I started microdosing 0.2g dry each day.  In the subsequent 6 months I've stopped the SSRIs and anti-psychotics with no effect other than a greatly increased sex drive.

I won't try stopping the mood stabilisers as the process each way (titrating up or down) is very risky & I'd need monthly blood tests, but I'm so glad that I gave the shrooms a try.

One note of caution - if you take any meds at present, PLEASE talk it through with your doctor, if only so they can keep an eye on you in case things get messed up.


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Re: Tell me about your experiences with using psilocybin to treat mental health issues [Re: Janus62]
    #28303385 - 05/02/23 11:43 AM (8 months, 23 days ago)

Thanks Janus, I appreciate your advising caution to not just look at the positive anecdotes, which is why I made this thread. I didn’t have zero repercussions after that trip I took in my teens. I had to stop smoking weed afterwards for a few years because I’d be instantly back in the trip and it was extremely intense. Probably part of their message, looking back, but still.

I have Klonopin to take as needed against anxiety/panic attacks, and I take 10 mg Brintellix/Trintellix daily. It’s a newer AD with supposedly fewer side effects. I don’t feel like I have side effects, but I’ve played with the dosage and I dunno how helpful it really is either. AD’s are known not to work very well for PTSD/ trauma, which I can attest to.

I definitely don’t want to get my hopes up too much, but after decades of therapy and dozens of meds, I’m just so sick of all of it. I’m surviving, not thriving, and that seems unfair for this one life. MDMA seems like it has more research for trauma for now, but Mushrooms just seem easier to source even as a noob grower than clean MDMA, bc also I morally don’t want to contribute to gangs and their finances.

I have a plan for cutting back on my two meds, if it doesn’t work then I’ll go back on. I’ve played with the dosages enough that I feel confident doing it on my own, and I’m not addicted to the Klonopin. I unfortunately don’t think the doctor has the education to be able to give advice on psychedelics due to the laws.


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Re: Tell me about your experiences with using psilocybin to treat mental health issues [Re: Mycodemus] * 2
    #28307256 - 05/05/23 05:55 AM (8 months, 20 days ago)

I too instantly quit cigarettes after one of my mushroom trips. Wasn't even planning on it, it just kind of happened. I've been using other forms of nicotine just no more tobacco, at the moment.

I suffer from depression, and it got really bad after going through a pretty emotionally abusive relationship (ex didnt used to self harm until she saw my body covered in SH scars, and tried to use it as a manipulation tactic against me, pretty fucked up shit amongst other things) and that led to me abusing alcohol for a couple years, getting DUI's, etc.

My very first mushroom trip got me to look at myself in the mirror for the first time in years, and I saw myself from another perspective. And I talked to myself for like 2 hours. It was like my mental self and physical self connected for the first time, I told myself that I don't deserve to be treated the way I treat myself, it really just stopped the gears of depression for 6 hours (vacation in my own body) and in that state of lifted depression I was able to talk myself out of the negative thought patterns I talk myself into constantly.

Deleted all my alarms that woke me up with labels such as "you are worthless, you will never be accepted, you will never have normal relationships, that car crash was supposed to kill you" Etc. Etc. Because I wouldn't treat anyone else that way, why would I do that to myself?

And depression for me is often a tiring process of any thought that I have (especially positive ones) get an instant contradictory statement against it. Like oh I want to play guitar when I get home --> no you don't, its frivolous and you will never good at it. Fuck you for wanting stupid things. So even after large amounts of caffeine I'd just go home and sleep because its very tiring to deal with

Well the mushrooms didnt make hat process disappear, but it allows me to direct it and use it to my advantage. Like with cigarettes, anytime I wanted a cigarette, my brain would shoot out a contradictory statement for not wanting to smoke. Like oh I want a cigarette --> no you don't, tobacco is trash.

I'm still working out a microdose regimen at the moment, but my bi-weekly trips have been immensley helpful in redirecting my rhought patterns amd allowing me to remember what its like to not be in that state of depression, and treat/speak to myself the way I do to others.


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Re: Tell me about your experiences with using psilocybin to treat mental health issues [Re: Tetrasage] * 1
    #28307327 - 05/05/23 07:17 AM (8 months, 20 days ago)

Tetrasage, thank you for sharing, and I really empathize with everything you’ve gone through. I used to be a cutter as well, and I’ve done a lot of work on myself with treating myself more kindly- it’s really hard when you’ve never really had true unconditional kindness modeled for you in life, especially growing up. I’m very happy for you that you’re starting to treat yourself more kindly.

Something about what you mentioned about your ex made me think of toxic and narcissistic relationships, and I recommend looking up Dr. Ramani. She’s on YouTube, has a couple books written, and has a podcast. She helped me a lot in learning to recognize these behaviors and avoiding people with them. Straight up, studying narcissism and dark triad personalities has changed my life. I wish you all the best, you deserve it.

I’m interested in how the continuing treatment with mushrooms goes with you, if it feels ok for you please keep me updated either here or feel free to PM if you prefer.


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Re: Tell me about your experiences with using psilocybin to treat mental health issues [Re: Mycodemus] * 1
    #28307512 - 05/05/23 09:28 AM (8 months, 20 days ago)

Thanks man, and yeah I will definitley keep you posted on how things are working for me

And also for mentioning Dr. Ramani, I will for sure be looking into that when I get home from work. I've been kind of avoiding relationships lately as I piece myself back together. It hasn't even occured to me yet to look into human behaviors, but that sounds wicked helpful for not being so "afraid" of getting close to others, which I totally see myself falling into.

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it's really hard when you’ve never really had true unconditional kindness modeled for you in life, especially growing up.




Totally agree on that as well, hit the nail on the head in my experience.

But seriously, thank you thank you for the kind words, it's nice to hear when others have similar experiences with something thats not often talked about in brutally honest detail lol

Amd my inbox is always open, don't be afraid to hit me up as well. Mush love :smile:


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Re: Tell me about your experiences with using psilocybin to treat mental health issues [Re: Tetrasage] * 2
    #28324039 - 05/17/23 09:25 PM (8 months, 7 days ago)

Mushrooms led me to God which led me to Aa(treatment), I credit my life now to these things. There is an awesome Aa group on the shroomery if you didn’t know. Past raging alcoholic here, in and out of the hospital a couple times and could never get my shit straight no matter how many times I tried to quit and when I was off it, the goal was to just stay off it. That’s not enough! For anyone who feels this disease is stripping them from their very bones. Booze was killing me and I could feel it more and more everyday, to satisfy the urge to just feel normal again? So is that such a bad urge? It’s a fucking hell hole. Talking about it keeps us sober and encourages other people who might struggle to speak up too. Everyone wants to help, it’s the only way to help ourselves! Love and bless. Check out the Aa thread below… it’s free, I think it’s priceless.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22559523


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Re: Tell me about your experiences with using psilocybin to treat mental health issues [Re: Prolific Koi] * 2
    #28324506 - 05/18/23 08:13 AM (8 months, 7 days ago)

I was on several antidepressants, but they weren't working for me. The baseline they maintained didn't leave me with much motivation to do anything, but I wasn't suffering from ideation. So when I tried my first dosage of mushrooms last year, it was a life changing experience. It led me to start growing my own. I tried my own crop just last night for the first time, which was also an amazing experience. But they aren't a panacea, just one aspect of a larger network of support I've made for myself.


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Re: Tell me about your experiences with using psilocybin to treat mental health issues [Re: Suzi]
    #28324687 - 05/18/23 11:48 AM (8 months, 7 days ago)

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I was on several antidepressants, but they weren't working for me. The baseline they maintained didn't leave me with much motivation to do anything, but I wasn't suffering from ideation. So when I tried my first dosage of mushrooms last year, it was a life changing experience. It led me to start growing my own. I tried my own crop just last night for the first time, which was also an amazing experience. But they aren't a panacea, just one aspect of a larger network of support I've made for myself.



Love this thanks for sharing.


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