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Re: Is there ANY scientific evidence that mentions the different cubensis strains? [Re: Alan Rockefeller] * 2
    #28274159 - 04/12/23 09:17 AM (9 months, 11 days ago)

What comes to my mind when thinking about the question of strains in cubensis is the high variability in them.

One example:
Just recently i grew PF Red Spore and i had a single mushroom with a normal, straight stem appear. Its spores produced like 2/3 leucistic mushroom with a headache inducing variety in sizes, colours and shapes. Tiny mushroom, very large ones, flat caps, pointy caps, really thick caps, thin caps, semilanceata-like looking caps (very cool!), every shape you can imagine. There even was a single mushroom that reverted to violet spores! Unfortunately i couldn´t identify "the one", i only saw the spores on the ground.

So i would say Cubes are just highly variable and adaptable and as long as they stay that way and there is no genetic line that isn´t able to revert back to its "origins", i would say a cubensis is a cubensis is a cubensis. And for the most part that includes potency as well. When i tested a couple of "recent" strains against each other (GT, GH, GM, PFRS), i found that they were all pretty much the same strength (1,8-2,0%) and that substrate seems to be the key factor, not genetics. But there are exceptions of course. The old John Allen strain was substantially weaker (1,6%) and there is this Tidal Wave 2 thing (somewhere between 3,2% and 3,6%)...


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Re: Is there ANY scientific evidence that mentions the different cubensis strains? [Re: Zwinst]
    #28277658 - 04/14/23 03:48 PM (9 months, 9 days ago)

That's an excellent observation. :thumbup: My question would be do they revert back to pure origins or is this simply phenotyping with some types resembling the parents? I lean a bit more towards phenotyping. I suppose sequencing will eventually answer that question with more work being done due to new legalities.

Another topic I find interesting in regards to a 'cube is a cube'.. and this would be more in regards to effect and phenotyping than a way to identify a strain, is terpenes and 'Entourage Effect'. Over the years this has been severely overlooked, but again recently we've been scratching the surface there as well.

https://cannabislifenetwork.com/do-mushrooms-have-terpenes-and-an-entourage-effect/

And then there's the lesser known alkaloids to consider as well. One I've found particularly interesting is Aeruginascin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeruginascin

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/european-psychiatry/article/review-of-aeruginascin-and-potential-entourage-effect-in-hallucinogenic-mushrooms/F748BCD98EDD46D151AB336E2D2400FF

Pretty exciting time to be alive in the OMC for sure. So much to learn still.

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Re: Is there ANY scientific evidence that mentions the different cubensis strains? [Re: the_chosen_one]
    #28280477 - 04/16/23 12:14 PM (9 months, 7 days ago)

Dr Alistair Mctaggart has done some interesting sequencing work:
https://alistairmctaggart.weebly.com/magicmushrooms
(scroll down to the bottom)

I havent gotten around to looking through his publications. His blog is just an overview of his work i imagine.


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