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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #28273130 - 04/11/23 04:18 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

Do you trust believe/think it is as extreme as, "everyone you walk by just wants to fuck and leave me"? Paraphrase slightly i apologize.
If thus is the case I feel sorry for you bc you are even more cynical/jaded than I am, and that is going some distance.
Geez.
If this was the level we actually were operating on, then you would be the type of woman, or man, that would refuse their spouse, straight friends of the opposite gender.
I am sorry you have been so negatively impacted by males or sexuality or whatever it was, truly sorry.
And I'm not denying shit is fucked up, out there, but I see it more as a sociological  problem, with much deeper roots than sexuality alone.
Much less the very specific and hurtful(to all parties) premise that you describe as your own experience.
Which sux
But goddamn all humans/males aren't rabid sex frothed animals, even if you are 10/10 and everyone wants to have sex with you or w/e.
Again I'm sorry for your terrible experiences on this matter that must have brought you to this conclusion


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28273146 - 04/11/23 04:29 PM (9 months, 13 days ago)

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LogicaL Chaos said:
Annon #2 has a point, thats the male privilage. Several years ago, I was once thoroghly-gazed/flirted with by a gay dude at a bar. That night, i saw a small glimpse of what its like to be a woman. It was a very enlightening, eye-opening experience.




I have been hit on by a gay man, it's not that bad, the few occasions it's happened, either one of these;
My facial expression says, I have no interest in you or your ass/cock.
If we speak, it's pretty simple and is said; "generic I am hetero statement here"
Or I say something or act in a way with no intent, that makes clear to the fellow, that I am not gay. And the human judges for himself where he would stand if he attempted "flirting" any farther.

All this with no meanness
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LogicaL Chaos said:
Annon #2 has a point, thats the male privilage. Several years ago, I was once thoroghly-gazed/flirted with by a gay dude at a bar. That night, i saw a small glimpse of what its like to be a woman. It was a very enlightening, eye-opening experience.




Ime it's never been difficult to dismiss a gay dude, in a variety of ways.
To no degree that I've ever felt any kind of way really except unamused, at most.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28273482 - 04/11/23 07:53 PM (9 months, 12 days ago)

I know very  few men that I don't think our pigs and only view women as sexual objects.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #28275317 - 04/13/23 02:48 AM (9 months, 11 days ago)

Women get dressed up for other people, period... If it was for themselves, they would get all dressed up when they planned to stay home by themselves, but they don't... Because they don't. They can say they do it for themselves, and they probably believe themselves when they say it... But it's just simply not true.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28275647 - 04/13/23 09:38 AM (9 months, 11 days ago)

Wrong
There's housewives everywhere that dress up every day.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #28275683 - 04/13/23 10:08 AM (9 months, 11 days ago)

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Anonymous #4 said:
Wrong
There's housewives everywhere that dress up every day.




I concur; and even following the "women dress up for men" argument is still women dressing up for themselves because women benefit from men thinking that they are beautiful/sexy/attractive; women gain social benefit for themselves, not for men. Men get secondary benefit from women dressing up for themselves.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: Anonymous #1] * 2
    #28275719 - 04/13/23 10:37 AM (9 months, 11 days ago)

I just gotta point out here: 'Feminism' encompasses decades long movements and counter movements, and libraries full of academic discourse and theory. Reducing it down to "Wow, so men can't even look at women?!?" is dumb as fuck.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: Lynnch]
    #28275804 - 04/13/23 12:08 PM (9 months, 11 days ago)

But that is what was said bruv
Zero reduction


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: Lynnch]
    #28275805 - 04/13/23 12:10 PM (9 months, 11 days ago)

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Lynnch said:
I just gotta point out here: 'Feminism' encompasses decades long movements and counter movements, and libraries full of academic discourse and theory. Reducing it down to "Wow, so men can't even look at women?!?" is dumb as fuck.





That just means there was disposable time to write about the subject. Reductive doesn't mean wrong and repetition has never made something more legitimate.
There's extensive writings about the importance of Catholic theocracy too, but it can be very succinctly shortened to "Land owners who swear fealty to the pope should be in charge cause I said so".

But anyway. That's not really relevant here. Just something that irked me a little. OP sounds very old and very lonely so while I don't think his thinking is healthy I don't wanna lay into him too much.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: Anonymous #2] * 1
    #28276983 - 04/14/23 08:00 AM (9 months, 10 days ago)

No, it means there are a variety of viewpoints and topics covered. Even the idea of the male gaze- can be reduced down to interpersonal situations, but is really meant to explore societal level issues like female representations in media and beauty standards etc. It irks me when folks remove all nuance from a subject and then go on little rants out of ignorance :shrug:

I also think OP should chill out a little, because seeking 'signs' to find out if someone is into you is a quick way to drive yourself insane.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: Lynnch]
    #28277005 - 04/14/23 08:19 AM (9 months, 10 days ago)

I dont think this subject was meant to have much nuance, ppl just came to post feminist charged responses and it devolved.
Yeah there is alot of relative issues topics and viewpoints. Cool.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: ashfiken] * 1
    #28277091 - 04/14/23 09:20 AM (9 months, 10 days ago)

I'm going to male gaze at you so you can see how it feels.

You'll be like "what's your problem, bro?" and then I'll be like "feels strange to be objectified huh buddy?" and then you'll realize that I have objectified you and your likelihood of being robbed has just gone up x300%.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #28277130 - 04/14/23 09:45 AM (9 months, 10 days ago)

Interesting


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: ashfiken] * 1
    #28277166 - 04/14/23 10:07 AM (9 months, 10 days ago)

Kind of think it would be hot for me to be objectified by a woman.
After being taught as a male in the US that you ought to provide, in various ways, to maintain any sort of relationship bc thats what is expected of you.
And that provision, to me has always seemed quite lopsided..
What you can do for em, what you can produce, how much money you have to spend, how much can their tender emotional self rely on you.
Not much provision for the male side in that arena..
In addition tobow down to everyone above you in the social hierarchy(just a poor hetero white guy,here), man or woman, bc you prefer not be in prison and have to make money to survive.
When you are a weirdo and don't have the same drives or values as nearly everyone around you, bc you just want the simple shit, peace,  affection,  and few creature comforts..

Think itd be nice once in a while for a woman to just bang me or kiss me or engage or whatever me bc I am objectively attractive to them and nothing more.
It's unweighted stroking of the ego, and not like that stroke cannot be returned to the other.. seems kinda positive.
Think I'd handle the gaze.
As an average male, I doubt to ever experience this, and for a woman, it is upsetting and damaging clearly..
And that is def a bug in the system where women have been fuxking traumatized in this world


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hmm...

"I'm naked and fearless... And my fear is naked."

"life isn't worth living without the threat of death"

"I got my plans in a ziploc bag, let's see how unproductive we can be"

"nobody lives their lives fully except for bull fighters"

My Trade List


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: Lynnch]
    #28277177 - 04/14/23 10:16 AM (9 months, 10 days ago)

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Lynnch said:
No, it means there are a variety of viewpoints and topics covered. Even the idea of the male gaze- can be reduced down to interpersonal situations, but is really meant to explore societal level issues like female representations in media and beauty standards etc. It irks me when folks remove all nuance from a subject and then go on little rants out of ignorance :shrug:

I also think OP should chill out a little, because seeking 'signs' to find out if someone is into you is a quick way to drive yourself insane.



"You're just stupid". Just call me stupid. Come on. You didn't need to say all that. Just say "I think I'm morally and intellectually superior to you".
It's not hard.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: ashfiken]
    #28277223 - 04/14/23 10:46 AM (9 months, 10 days ago)

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Kind of think it would be hot for me to be objectified by a woman.
After being taught as a male in the US that you ought to provide, in various ways, to maintain any sort of relationship bc thats what is expected of you.
And that provision, to me has always seemed quite lopsided..
What you can do for em, what you can produce, how much money you have to spend, how much can their tender emotional self rely on you.
Not much provision for the male side in that arena..
In addition tobow down to everyone above you in the social hierarchy(just a poor hetero white guy,here), man or woman, bc you prefer not be in prison and have to make money to survive.
When you are a weirdo and don't have the same drives or values as nearly everyone around you, bc you just want the simple shit, peace,  affection,  and few creature comforts..

Think itd be nice once in a while for a woman to just bang me or kiss me or engage or whatever me bc I am objectively attractive to them and nothing more.
It's unweighted stroking of the ego, and not like that stroke cannot be returned to the other.. seems kinda positive.
Think I'd handle the gaze.
As an average male, I doubt to ever experience this, and for a woman, it is upsetting and damaging clearly..
And that is def a bug in the system where women have been fuxking traumatized in this world





You can easily access this if you try being a bottom for a bit. I understand that is not how sexuality works, but also, nothing bad will happen if you just try it out.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #28277442 - 04/14/23 01:23 PM (9 months, 10 days ago)

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Anonymous #4 said:
Wrong
There's housewives everywhere that dress up every day.



No there is not... You will never show up to a woman's house unexpected when she has no plans of going out, and catch her with her makeup to the nines and dressed to the max... That does not happen. And if you do find the one woman in the world who does that, it doesn't count for the majority of the rest of them.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: LocN9ne]
    #28277449 - 04/14/23 01:28 PM (9 months, 10 days ago)

I apologize in advance for the double post. It's been a while since I've been on here and trying to remember the functions. And I'm on my lunch break. But any man who has ever gone shopping with a woman has been asked. "How does this look?" "Or does this look good on me?" ..." Or does this make me look fat?"

Why would those questions be asked by every woman if she was just dressing up for herself?


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: LocN9ne]
    #28277460 - 04/14/23 01:33 PM (9 months, 10 days ago)

Because the gain that she receives is contingent on her appropriately gaming your narcistic belief that "she is dressing up for me specifically."

If you approve then she will in fact receive social benefit. If you tell her that her dressing strategy is ineffective, then she will change her attire so that she can be effective and make social gains.

Its really not hard to understand that women are not dressing up for men.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28277501 - 04/14/23 02:00 PM (9 months, 10 days ago)

It's Friday again! Any more displays of sexiness by the workplace temptress?


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